Involvement. This incident is further proof that the uk is facing rising and evolving threats. Grant shapps, speaking earlier in the commons. Well, in scotland, john swinney says hes over the moon to be voted in as the scottish parliaments choice to be their next first minister. He was backed by 64 of his colleagues and his name will now be submitted to the king. He replaces humza yousaf, who sent his own official letter to king charles earlier confirming he was stepping down and staying in scotland, where ministers have been warned that children there who question their gender are being referred to clinics because some doctors are fearful of toxic debate. The author of the cass review told the Health Committee in scotland, theres fearfulness among Health Professionals who dont know how to treat gender issues that some children face. Doctor hilary cass suggests the toxic nature of the gender debate means that some doctors are afraid of doing or saying the wrong thing, leaving children with inadequate care. Labours newest mp has care. Labours newest mp has taken his seat in the house of commons after labour won the by election in blackpool south. Chris webb beat conservative david jones in the Third Largest swing to labour from conservative in a by election since the second world war. Sir keir starmer has suggested its a sign of things to come in the general election. And weve heard tonight that a man has appeared in court charged with attempted murder after a chainsaw incident in a residential street on bank houday residential street on bank holiday monday. Residential street on bank holiday monday. Footage on holiday monday. Footage on social media showed the 30 year old wielding a chainsaw and chasing Police Officers down a road in broad daylight. Two road in broad daylight. Two officers were later treated for injuries. Liridon kastrati has also been charged with breach of the peace possession of an offensive weapon and four road traffic offences. Hes been traffic offences. Hes been remanded in custody and will appearin remanded in custody and will appear in court again within the next eight days. And finally , next eight days. And finally, before we hand back to jacob in westminster, weve been told that prince harry wont be visiting the king while hes in the uk this week because of his majestys full program. Harry landed in london this morning ahead of an event marking ten years since the Invictus Games launched. Years since the Invictus Games launched. A spokesperson for the launched. A spokesperson for the duke of sussex told us the prince understands his fathers commitment and hopes to see him soon. Thats the latest from the newsroom. Ill be back with newsroom. Ill be back with another update at 9 00. Until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen or go to gb news. Common alerts. Well, welcome back to state of the nation. This is not the time for panglossian spin. Last weeks Election Results were a thumping defeat for the tories and a warning of what is likely to follow at a general election. Although labour under keir starmer is not as popular as new labour under blair, the electorate is wary of a conservative party that has no vision. All we seem to offer is vision. All we seem to offer is an arguably competent management of the status quo, which the labour party seeks to mimic. Yet the status quo is not good enough. Public services are not of a satisfactory standard at the moment. Hmrc cannot be bothered to answer the telephone and search response targets that it doesnt meet. My sinner motoring infringements lead to driving bans. Unnecessary checks on safe food from the eu will push up prices and stop some goods coming in. The government seems set on managing for the concerns of the manager, not for the voters. This needs to change the voters. This needs to change the voters. This needs to change the little inconveniences of life must be removed and officialdom must work for the citizen, not the other way round. Legal migration needs to be reduced further as it harms the standard of living of the poorest, the most. It can be poorest, the most. It can be brought down by ministerial action and does not need primary legislation. Illegal migration must be dealt with more promptly and flights to rwanda need to become a reality. The war on the become a reality. The war on the motorist must stop 20 mph speed limits removed, as even the Welsh Government has realised they are useless and annoying, and the power of councils to fined for trivial infringements must go. These little routes just make peoples lives a little bit more difficult. Green policies make us cold and poor need to be suspended. Surcharges on electricity ought to fall on the state, not on the consumer or business, making us less competitive. And the ambition for net zero should be delayed until theres Affordable Technology or other countries begin to catch up. The ban on petrol and diesel cars must go, not just be delayed for a few years. We need to build more homes that are beautiful and not ones that have tiny upstairs windows. For Fictional Health and safety purposes. Those and safety purposes. Those entering the workforce today must have the hope of owning their own homes within the next few years, rather than waiting for inheritance. We must stop for inheritance. We must stop the war on our own supporters, our own conservative supporters, by ending the attacks on those who let out property. Whether as who let out property. Whether as houday who let out property. Whether as holiday lets or as short holds. We must stop attacking second home owners, most of whom are probably conservative. We must deal with the terrible marginal rates that led to a constituent. A constituent wrote to me last week saying he is turning down a job, earning £120,000 a year because hes just as well off on £80,000 and has less stress. These vicious marginal rates are damaging to Economic Activity and harsh on the individuals who are affected by them. We must are affected by them. We must support our nation by being proud of its noble history and not giving in to those who hate britain and all that we have achieved. We must not kowtow to the woke agenda or adjust our language to satisfy fanatics. In language to satisfy fanatics. In short, we must be conservative and show ourselves to be on the side of voters. Trust the people is a better slogan than coalition of chaos. As ever, let me know your thoughts. Mail margaret gb news. Com. Well, im joined now by my panel Pr Consultant and former labour aide, stella santykiu , and the aide, stella santykiu, and the former conservative mp michael brown. Michael, you saw all this brown. Michael, you saw all this first hand in 1996. Yeah, surely weve got to get out of this state of denial, admit things are difficult, are really bad and show a route that madness is carrying on, doing the same thing and thinking it will get different results. Well, in an ideal world, i agree with you jacob, but ill be honest and blunt with you. I do not think that under this Prime Minister, things are going to change outside the parameters that he set. But i still dont think that you should despair , you have to go should despair, you have to go into an election with what youve got. Youve got a prime youve got. Youve got a Prime Minister who none of us voted for, none of us outside voted for. I dont think even tory mps voted for him because there was an election. If i remember, inside the tory party so if youre asking what i would like to see as you pose the questions just now, i frankly dont think thats going to happen. But what would you like to see it. 7 of course, of course, of course, yes. But i think the pubuc course, yes. But i think the public have stopped listening to the tory party. However however, i think that all is not totally lost. There is a record of 14 lost. There is a record of 14 years, and i do commend the paragraphs in William Hagues article in the times this morning when he said, look, there are 4 million more people in work today than there were on the day that David Cameron became Prime Minister, the education standards in this country are far better than 14 years ago. So there are 1 or 2 things if you string together the record that does that might at the margins hold several indeed dozens of conservative members of parliament seats. But if youre looking to rishi sunak to change his policies , i dont to change his policies, i dont think one of the really important points in hagues article was he said, you need to set out your long term view and this is part of the vision of the values that we need to show how. Now. You need to do some things to show were actually serious, but its actually about the long term values that youre aligned with your voter. Of course, youre not just a manager, of course, but, let me say that just before the last general election, ive said this before on your programme, the last general election that i fought in 1997, which i, along with the conservative party lost catastrophically, we did actually have a good story to tell as a consequence of the economic policies that were followed by ken clarke in the run up. But it did us no good whatsoever for, i think that every tory mp that is standing for re election does have to have a belief in their own self and in their own record. No tory mp should go into the election without being optimistic. You are the secretary of state for Somerset North East or whatever the constituency is going to be renamed. You have a record personally to stand on, which i think will carry the day for you. But dont rely on mr sunak. Well, im certainly optimistic about my own chances in my glorious constituency, stellar labour must be rubbing their hands with glee, not just at the results, but then at the response. Theyre not doing it publicly as much, but i cannot hide my feelings, so i have to say i cannot play the game that the two main Political Parties seem to me to be playing, because obviously what what you will hear from spinners , from both hear from spinners, from both parties is, you know, they need these elections to be competitive. They need the activists to feel like they can make a difference by going out there and canvassing. Otherwise people become complacent. And this is a disaster for both parties. I this is a disaster for both parties. I think the results very, very clearly show labour is going to have a massive landslide. Thats what the results show. The polls, whatever we were expecting, the polls, the they have become true. So these are good news overall. Yes and i, i do agree with, michael, to an extent, i do think that a lot of mps will be looking to stand on their personal record. You saw that happening with the mayoral candidates. However, michael, i think if andy street shows us something, it is that it is not going to save everyone. And i think thats a very important point, because if you look at ben houchen and andy street and both of them well known as individuals, the bulk of their vote is still the tory vote. Their personality adds a few points, but on the tory base, it doesnt create the whole of their vote. They didnt manage to beat the national polls. Yes they didnt. The national swing, they didnt. The national swing, they didnt manage to beat the national team. I still think that that it shows. I still think that personality politics, when it comes to the mayoral seats plays a role. But overall, yes, just picking up jacob on on a status point , the mayoral a status point, the Mayoral Election in the West Midlands, though , is the kind of case i am though, is the kind of case i am making for the just 1500 votes out of half a million cast for the two candidates. Now there is a case the tories could have won that. Now he pulled out all the stops as best he could, a little tiny bit more organisation, a little tiny bit more work. Worked very hard, sure, but, it is, it is, cringe making to lose an election by that tighter margin. I an election by that tighter margin. I know an election by that tighter margin. I know all about tight margin. I know all about tight margins. I had a 486 majority in my first election. It shows you campaigning on the ground works. Field organising is important, but if labour has this big majority, doesit labour has this big majority, does it know what to do with it. 7 and i dont mean the slogan, theres no plan. I mean it seems to want to set its stall out as we will do what the tories have been doing. Well just do it a bit more competently. I think this is this is exactly why Rachel Reeves and keir starmer, why theyre being so extremely cautious. Because with great power comes great responsibility and rachel gave a statement, a very important statement, a very important statement this week, as were expecting the inflation rate to come out later this week. And she said what labour will be doing is stability, growth, investment. These are the three main things and a lot of commentators have have pointed out that unlike previous years, you know , new labour, for you know, new labour, for example, they had the minimum wage. They had they had some big policies that commentators could analyse , whereas labour has been analyse, whereas labour has been extremely cautious. And i think the reason exactly why theyre doing it is because the majority looks like its going to be so great. Its actually quite scary. And this is one of the things that in other countries , theres that in other countries, theres a swing to the right and the swing to the right here seems to have happened to the labour party to pretend to be tories. Were not getting that populist right wing following that. Theyre getting another countries. Yeah, i quite agree with that. But ive just come back from a wonderful holiday. So the glass is half full for me. Notwithstanding watching the Election Results from barbados. But nevertheless. But nevertheless theres still things that the tory party can champion. The National Living wage is a triumph for the conservative party. They should be. You know, its been increased from pounds 44. Yeah, exactly. So that is a good news story. Its been increased far story. Its been increased far more than the Labour Government who invented it could ever dream of. So there are some good small things. I of. So there are some good small things. I dont think its probably going to stop starmer from walking into number 10. Well, thank you very much. My panel coming up, the ministry of defence has faced a cyber attack which has put 270,000 personnel at risk. But who was behind it. 7 at risk. But who was behind it. 7 plus the commercial success that is the sit down with sitwell returns. But william is cycling his way here amidst the chaos of rail strikes. Will he make 7 . Well, 7 well, weve been . Well, weve been talking about the elections and the conservative vision. And youve been firing in your mailbox. Helen says and doesnt mince her words. There is no competent maintenance of the status quo. This government is on quicksand. And the longer they are here, the worse everything gets. And i voted for them. And peter , if voted for them. And peter, if the fraud of hmrc cant be bothered, why should we even bother . Thats a very good question. I think if you didnt pay question. I think if you didnt pay your tax , hmrc might might pay your tax, hmrc might might just were into action. The names, bank details and some addresses of around 270,000 Service Personnel have been exposed in a data breach at the ministry of defence. It has been revealed. Although the government will not name who it suspects to be behind the cyber attack, it was reported last night that china is at the forefront of peoples minds. Secretary of state for defence grant shapps said this to the house of commons earlier today. This was the work, as i say, of a malign actor who compromised a contract to run a network entirely separate from the mod core system. However, as ive said, we cannot at this stage rule out state involvement from elsewhere. The Chinese Government itself has described the suggestion as fabricated and malicious slander probably went on to say of the running dogs of capitalism, thats their usual phraseology. While an investigation has been launched in attack, what does this say about our countrys power to defend itself against hostile states . Well, joining me hostile states . Well, joining me now is the chairman and ceo of the Cyber Security association, chris windley. Chris, thank you very much for joining chris windley. Chris, thank you very much forjoining me. What can we do to stop this sort of thing happening . And do you thing happening . And do you think its got the hallmark of a chinese attack , well, actually chinese attack, well, actually the, the second question first, if you like. Yes, i do , right. If you like. Yes, i do, right. You know, i mean, obviously, this sort of thing could be china. It could be russia, if you like. One of one of our you like. One of one of our enemies. Inverted commas. Right, the people that are, you know, seem keen to attack us, you know, in a non kinetic way, but nevertheless , you know, they are nevertheless, you know, they are attacking us, and in terms of what we can do, i would just say positively of the company thats been hacked , shared services, been hacked, shared services, connected, limited , you know, connected, limited, you know, that they that they did go through the cyber essentials plus certification , right. As plus certification, right. As all organisations that, work for the government, mod police, etc. Are required to do right, and of course they did report, what happened to the ico and, and there will be, you know , an there will be, you know, an investigation from the ico , and investigation from the ico, and you know what weve seen jacob, with the ico is, that they will investigate carefully and theyll make a decision based on on you know, whether they think youve done a good job or not. Right and but thats the least of our worries, isnt it, that the ico may say that the company should have done more or whatever, but actually that a major state is attacking us is a real problem. And we need to think of what other security we