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Hello and welcome to headliners on tonights panel, weve got mediterranean warmth combined with strong british values. Thats nicholas de santo and nick dixon. Evening gentlemen. Good evening. Im not sure its wise to combine those two. Of course. I have the same values as nick does. Of course you do. And hang on. Nick has the same values as you. Lets not get carried away. Your values are a bit more extreme. Youre both very much people of the book, though, i think. Arent you. 7 yeah arent you . Yeah i dont know which book it is with. I love this idea that people think that they can take a little bit of mediterranean and mingle it with a little bit of the cumbrian. Yeah, but youre iranian, arent you . Really nicholas . Well, italian. Genetically, yeah. Genetically, yeah. I only care about the genetically. Genetically persian. Yeah. Did you say. I did not know that . Okay. Interesting. Still good enough. He was one that ordered the drone strike like an entire one man. Ancient civilisation. Lets ancient civilisation. Lets have a look at the front pages, daily mail , have a look at the front pages, daily mail, kick us off. Enough is enough. Were ready for rwanda. Lift off the telegraph rwanda. Lift off the telegraph also have rwanda migrants to be detained within days, Guardian Met Police chief praises conduct of half of officer in anti semitism row. The mirror have the face of a killer. Jill dando. Specifically. I news rwanda plan wont work tory critics tell sunak. And finally the daily star, britains hardest psycho seagull. Yeah, hardest psycho seagull. Yeah, well, those who are your front pages. Well, those who are your front pages. So, kicking off the pages. So, kicking off the in depth look with the telegraph, nicholas. So the big headline is rwanda migrants to be detained within days. Rishi sunak has promised , days. Rishi sunak has promised, incessant or what is the word, regular drumbeat of multiple flights. This looks like we are approaching. The skies darken with them. Yeah. At long last, the flagship policy of the tories, which, has has faced so many obstacles so far after so much prevarication and a parliamentary ping pong. Parliamentary ping pong. Its interesting you use that phrase flagship policy, which you genuinely believe. Its a flagship policy. I mean, at least in terms of media coverage, right . Right. And i mean, personally, its my favourite policy , but its been, favourite policy, but its been, its been at least its been always chequered, isnt it . Always derided, always scorned , mocked. And of course, scorned, mocked. And of course, it has had to try and overcome or work its way around numerous hurdles. I dont think it ever had even a long weekend of, you know, in the sun. No, no ones ever really liked this. Theres a strange policy to sort of hang his, reputation , but that seems to be reputation, but that seems to be what hes doing. And hes really going for it now. And he did this speech earlier. People said its a new sunak. He said, no Foreign Court will stop us from getting flights off. He said, no ifs, no buts. These flights are going to rwanda. So hes realised he has to be tougher. Farage was even speculating. This means hes going to go for a summer election, whereas choppers was saying no because one mps want their pay so they want to last as long as possible. And two sunak wants his legacy. He wants to say, well , i was his legacy. He wants to say, well, i was there for two years, so it looks good on paper. When he hopes everyone forgets what it was actually like. But its a strange story, isnt it, policy to make such a big deal. And its. I just dont know if it connects with voters. I mean, itd be good if they get it done, but will it change your vote . I mean, its all about legal migration as far as im concerned. And the boats are sort of a smaller. Well, exactly what it has to do. The well, exactly what it has to do. The only way its ever going to work as a mechanism is as a deterrent. The idea that we can take a meaningful number of people from the uk to rwanda to ease the burden is nonsense. Thats obviously not going to happen. So what has to happen is that people stop coming across the channel in small boats if they believe that theres a good chance that theyll just be put straight on a plane to rwanda, and that i think is going to be even if it does ever work, i think it will take quite a long time. Even with an like an autumn election. I dont think that that process will have. Do you think so . It might be. It might be already too late. Youre right. We need to see how many are actually going. We will. We will believe it when we see it. First of all, because of all these obstacles so far. And, and then if it actually does increase, does decrease the number of boats, but its still something. And so many home secretaries and so many. Yes promises and so many disappointments so far and so much, mocking and derision. So, so we will see. But its something, at least to start. I think the point about summer election, im sure some tweets will correct me. I think it was to do with sunak getting the election before the echr returns to overturn this and humiliate him, right . Yes. Thats possible. Yes. And also, i think he is going to depend on the elderly vote. And then, you know, they could easily decide not to come out in the middle of november anyway. The guardian, nick so the guardian has met police chief praises conduct of officer in anti semitism row. So this is mark rowley of course. And he says the sergeant will not be disciplined. Now in case anyone doesnt know, there was of course this this Police Officer who told the guy from the campaign against anti semitism that he was openly jewish. And it was a short clip. Thenif jewish. And it was a short clip. Then if you watch the much longer clip, although its contentious, the officer does come across in my view, a little bit better. Hes more sympathetic. And thats definitely what rowleys going with. Hes saying that he was exemplary. Basically, he says that the officer, the wider actions and intent of the officer were professional and in the best tradition of British Police trying to prevent a disorder. I mean, maybe going a bit further than most would, but if you watch the full video, he tries to help the guy. He says its not because hes jewish, hes just creating a disruption. Hes trying to look after him. Hes trying to look after him. Hes saying, go around this way. Hes saying, go around this way. He does speak to him for a long time and offer various help. I was a bit more sympathetic having seen it. Theres still the fundamental problem of, obviously you cant call someone openly jewish as a reason for an arrest. And obviously the fundamental problem of the anarcho tyranny of arresting the innocent remains a big problem. Thats the fundamental absurdity. And they allegedly cant govern these control, these protests. Thats the fundamental problem. As we saw a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago with the chap and again, an iranian, i think , wasnt it, who was, had think, wasnt it, who was, had the banner saying that hamas, a terrorist and he was the one that was arrested and quite roughly handled, in fact, thats the fundamental problem. And so thats why my sympathy is limited. But for the individual officer, when i watched the full thing, i think he he was trying his best. And it is very, very difficult. And youre right, i mean, there is very often in these cases theyre trying to identify this Police Officer as the scapegoat for what has been allowed to develop over the course of a number of months of atrociously , soft handling of, atrociously, soft handling of, of a criminal element, certainly. Or i mean, by the standards of the hate crime legislation , then thats legislation, then thats terribly fashionable now. I mean, half those marches, thats what metropolitan police federation, which is the Union Representing them, calls trial by social media. Obviously, these the policeman might have had his heart in the right place. He may be most likely wanted to protect the man. Obviously it was very unfortunate that the expression, openly jewish. Yes but at the end of the day, people are sick of two tier policing , as weve of two tier policing, as weve seen repeatedly, and weve seen what the way they treated, for example, Tommy Robinson and all that going after people for tweets or for stickers. In leeds, somebody was jailed. The leeds, somebody was jailed. The lesbian nana all these cases, but its funny you mentioned Tommy Robinson. I remember a clip a few years ago, shortly after the Manchester Arena bombing, and there was a big kind of, what was it . I think it was after that, or possibly after one of the other, islamic terrorist outrages. Anyway, there was a sort of peace march in manchester, and then Tommy Robinson was leading a, a like a less peaceful march. And the police deliberately led them into one another. It was quite obvious they they actually precipitated the encounter. Precipitated the encounter. Hoping i think im projecting maybe that they would sort of, i dont know, bring disgrace upon both of them , you know, to both of them, you know, to demonstrate that they couldnt be trusted. Can i just add one thing, since youve invoked the dark name, no ones allowed to mention, i thought you were going to mention the more pressing irony that the jewish man who was who was told he was openly jewish, falter was, he told tom robinson to get out of his march. So some people are his march. So some people are saying this is a sort of a calmer, you know, youre trying to ban people from your march now youve been banned from march. Im not necessarily saying that. Im just documenting it, pointing out it is interesting, although i suspect whats going on there is fatah wanted to sort of purify the you know, he didnt want to be stained, obviously, before he does makes his own actions. I sort of understand that. But youre right there are its not simply a binary calculation. One key difference might be, isuppose one key difference might be, i suppose people say, look, this is a guy whos getting persecuted seemingly for his, you know, his ethnicity or whatever , his jewishness versus whatever, his jewishness versus someone wanting to keep someone out for ideological reasons or because you disapprove of their activism or something. So theres a slight difference, i think. So moving on to the mira nicholas, jill dando exclusive face of a killer. This is a cold case. We could say a murder case dating back to 1999, and now there could be a breakthrough. Yeah, 25 years. Jill dando, was crimewatch presenter dramatically shot dead . And there was this , x man dead . And there was this, x man or, unidentified, otherwise unidentified person who who might have been linked or incriminated. Nobody knew what who he was. And now, thanks to facial mapping, they have, theres a good chance that he is no less than a Serbian Secret Service assassin who is already serving a 40 yearjail terms in serbia for double murder. Serving a 40 yearjail terms in serbia for double murder. Yeah. Serbia for double murder. Yeah. Wow. And thats someone the police might want to question. Hes been called man x when you call him x, man, it sounds like hes one of those mutant superheroes, but he, it was always fascinating because people thought of first as just a stalker, but then its like, no, it was an execution. It was professional. People speculated to why was she exposing something . Theres always these questions. I dont know, people can tell me whove watched the documentary. Also, the assassin bears a striking resemblance to the sweating man of an e fit of a suspect. So we know its not prince andrew. Thats the main thing to rule out. It was so long ago i cut. There were some really crazy theories about it at the time, wasnt it . Do you remember . Quite a number of things happened all in once in one week. I seem to remember it was the same time as those nail bombs were going off in gay pubs in soho. I might be wrong about that. I seem to remember a lot of stuff was there was just a general what, like jill dando . It just seemed. I mean, it was obviously very sad, but also sort of absurd. She was such a i mean, yes, you know, crimewatch, but still just a very sort of shiny, bright, happy, you know, upbeat presenter. It just seemed. And then there was that ridiculous fit up. Do you remember that the chap who had named himself after Freddie Mercury or something, do you know a guy whose name he gave the name was freddie bulsara, which was Freddie Mercurys real name. Hed adopted it as his his name. Hed adopted it as his his name. Okay. And they pinned it on him. And he did. He did a number of years in jail. I god, i should dig it all out. But it was. Yeah. There was a it was an absolute bizarre fit up, you know on of guildford four dimensions. Anyway those are the front pages in the next section, the pros and cons of policing and the pros who are conning you on welcome back to headliners with me, simon evans. Still here with comedian nicholas de santo and nick dixon. So we go across to the guardian now. Nicholas. And six months on, finally, someone is facing accountability. Vie. Is facing accountability. Vie. Thats right. Still with dramatic news. Israeli military intelligence chief quits over 7th of october attack sukh. So this is Major General aharon haliva, and hes the first top brass, military or figure to , brass, military or figure to, vacate his job, because he has, claimed responsibility for the deadliest assault in the history of israel , he he he deadliest assault in the history of israel, he he he is the chief of israel, he he he is the chief of or was the chief of Israeli Military intelligence, which is one of the three branches. Its called aman for short, right, most people know mossad because mossad is maybe more dramatic with their operations, because they are the external. Theyre like the m16 of israel, the cia, exactly. Whereas aman is a bit more low key for us foreigners. But its the most important one because they observe the military movements of the neighbours, or theyre supposed to. And this is where the failure came. There was i mean, there are two things that i remember from the time that, you know, that things come and go there was some suggestion that, in fact, i assume his organisation, but military intelligence anyway, had in fact come to netanyahu and said that there are these plans and that they were dismissed as unworkable and not not practical, that you know, the idea that hamas were going to break out in such numbers. So to break out in such numbers. So presumably, if hes resigning, i dont know whether he doesnt feel that he didnt gather enough intelligence or didnt. But im pretty sure that there was a claim at the time that they had actually briefed the government and it had not been taken seriously. Conspiracy theories. Or not so much theories, but egyptians claim they had warned the israelis. Right. And so either way, they have either ignored or totally underestimate the movements and the indications. This guy is probably hoping people believe the Conspiracy Theory because it looks better than him just being totally negligent. I mean, he was on houdayin negligent. I mean, he was on holiday in a red sea resort, which probably didnt help. Right . And they sort of called him. He wasnt even there. And so im amazed its taken him this long to go, i mean, or for people to be sacked or. Right, because it was so bad. So if it was just negligence, it was incredible. To be fair, hes the first one who has resigned. And he did mention earlier that he was responsible. There is someone else who said he would be stepping down in somebody from the army , head of somebody from the army, head of idf Central Command yehuda fuchs. He said hes going to resign in summer. We need to understand theyre also in the middle of a war on multiple fronts. So they cant simply renovate the top echelons so quickly in the middle of the war. Although more than 62 of israelis say they should resign. Of course. Yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah, yeah. Well, i mean, just tying it in for balance. I know weve wandered into your expert topic here, though. It was all about the different branches of the secret police and stuff in israel. It is the most ridiculously catastrophic failure of military intelligence, isnt it . Especially considering their previous record, which was that, you know, if so much as a dog wandered into no mans land outside of gaza, you know, it was it was mown down. It seems extraordinary that, as you say, that he would not have gone within 24 hours. I cant understand it anyway , nick the understand it anyway, nick the met on a considerably less impressive scale for intelligence. They have a morale problem. And to be honest, at this point, if they didnt, id worry for them. But yes, indeed. Yeah rock bottom morale, in fact. And social media piles on inside the mets protest problem. This is in the eye. So yes , we touched on the eye. So yes, we touched on it earlier because there was this individual Police Officer , this individual Police Officer, the one we discussed in the first section, but theres a general lack of morale, as you say. As nicholas also mentioned, people, they feel that social media pylons are just waiting for them. If they put a foot wrong. And of course, that is one can be sympathetic for that. I mean, its theyre under resourced. Theyve got no way of they claim of manning these marches. I way of they claim of manning these marches. I think way of they claim of manning these marches. I think people these marches. I think people would be more sympathetic if they were still seen as being on they were still seen as being on the side of the people. And thats the big problem, because the police are essentially foot soldiers of the regime, for w