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Time now for headliners. Hello and welcome to headliners with me, simon evans. Just checked im not wearing hugo boss after that last story. Joining me tonight are comedian Stephen Allen and cressida wetton. How are you both. 7 how are you both. 7 very well thank you simon. Very well thank you simon. Excellent. Excellent. Youre dressed in snp garb this steve in support of this evening steve in support of the hate speech laws. Oh, i just tried to get my pen to match like pen to match my tie like i normally do. Nicely done. Nicely done. And youve come yeah. And youve just come back from scotland . Yeah. And youve just come bacive m scotland . Yeah. And youve just come bac ive just cotland. 7 yeah. And youve just come bacive just come d . Yeah. And youve just come bacive just come back ive just come back from scotland. Ive just come back from scoyes,1. Been bruce devlin. Yes, ive been bruce devlin. Yes, ive been bruce devlin. Ive managed yeah, but ive managed to. Yeah, but ive managed to. Time hang out with every time you hang out with that young man, hes a good time, girl. You back looking you come back looking a little worn. You little worn. you thank you very much. No, it was good. Lovely comedy. Was really good. Lovely comedy. Anneliese evening. Nice. Anneliese evening. Very nice. Youre excellent. Well, youre fighting lets fighting the good fight. Lets take look front pages, take a look at the front pages, the times kick us off with an outcry. It says at aid worker deaths. The telegraph have pm demands answers. After israel air strike kills britains. The Guardian Charities halt gaza aid after drone attack kills seven staff. The express three britains killed on gaza mercy mission. Killed on gaza mercy mission. The eye news uk demands answers after israeli strike kills seven aid workers. And finally the daily star, who throw in the joker in the pack fridges are snitches. Well, those were your front pages. So kicking off the front pages. So kicking off the in depth look into wednesdays front pages with the guardian, steve. Yeah, i mean, most front pages have this, but they go with charities. Halt gaza aid after drone attack kills seven staff. Three britons among the dead. So youve got the issue of whos to blame for this event. This event that shouldnt have happened has happened. Israel happened has happened. Israel have said theyre going to look into it. Theyre going to, theyre going to look at their military ways of doing things to make doesnt happen make sure it doesnt happen again, you again, which is exactly what you should say this again, which is exactly what you shan d say this again, which is exactly what you shan event say this again, which is exactly what you shan event that say this again, which is exactly what you shan event that shouldnt ay this is an event that shouldnt happen. Is terrible. These happen. It is terrible. These are that should are deaths that we should regret. And it to be regret. And it needs to be looked into so it never happens again. Context that again. Why do context take that step its because theres step back . Its because theres a on and terrible a war going on and terrible things then things happen in wars. And then you the question about you can ask the question about why we still a war on why do we still have a war on either side . Could do stuff. But i what, getting i tell you what, getting releasing would be releasing the hostages would be a well. So all a step forward as well. So all of are of of this, there are layers of blame. Of this, there are layers of bla certainly. Fairly stark certainly. Its fairly stark footage, isnt it, it footage, though, isnt it, it does hard for to does seem its hard for us to understand how, of course, how wars are conducted nowadays. Weve all, of course, for centuries the fog of war has confused things, but it seems less plausible of an excuse when you can see for yourself on the screen exactly what somebody saw before the trigger was pulled by the look of it. Well well, yeah, i dont, i still, i dont know, i dont, i still, i dont know, i dont, i still, i dont know, i dont know enough about how these things work. I dont know how i know , i i dont know how i know, i just feel really ignorant because im saying the footage is extraordinarily stark. Like its not its not like a hospital blowing up and the and a he said she said about who was in the basement. These do look in the basement. These do look like assassinations. Its really, i mean, its been going on for some time now and, there have been a lot, as you say , of have been a lot, as you say, of controversial and disputed claims that, that they havent been as cautious as they they claim to be the worlds most reliably focused and targeted military. Do you think this is. Well, thats certainly what the guardians trying to imply. I mean, the story beneath it is about snow vipers targeting children, so thats. Yeah, thats very much the tone of it. What about the telegraph . Anything different there , well, anything different there, well, they cover that as well. Theyve also got this story, raw over whether people could be whether Homeless People could be arrested smell. So arrested because they smell. So this is, some proposed rough sleeping legislation. So this sleeping legislation. So this hasnt happened yet. And theres a bit of a row over this, the tories are sort of saying no, no, its to make things better. Its about protecting the public, nuisance, which public, from nuisance, which could include to the could include damage to the environment, could mean environment, which could mean causing , smells, causing excessive noise, smells, litter deposits waste. Litter or deposits of waste. And some saying , what are some people are saying, what are you doing . Going back to the victorian times, punishing you doing . Going back to the victoriaforimes, punishing you doing . Going back to the victoriafor being punishing you doing . Going back to the victoriafor being homeless. But people for being homeless. But it happened it hasnt happened yet. Were we covered this, no, were we covered this, that there was a row in the tory party about it last night. Steve, i dont know if its moved on at all, but, there i mean, i think there is, some room for understanding that theres an escalation. Im theres been an escalation. Im not saying anyone really believes its a lifestyle choice, but on the other hand, like, other things, like, a lot of other things, like, a lot of other things, like another story we have coming the, if you coming up later, the, if you ease regulations, if ease ease regulations, if you ease off with policing , then it does off with policing, then it does seem to allow to grow, right . Seem to allow it to grow, right . Yeah but the kind of issues normally around homelessness, you the definition of you get into the definition of whether were talking street homelessness or just a definition homelessness, definition of homelessness, which have access to which means you have access to some actually some benefits. But actually these on your these are living on your friends yeah. If you friends couches. Yeah. If you smell public, were smell in public, i think were talking homelessness. Talking street homelessness. I dont anyone ever dont think anyone has ever become homeless because they think, well, i wont get fined for it. Dont think its and for it. I dont think its and this is what were looking at. Theyre trying to rejig the vagrancy act, is a 200 vagrancy act, which is a 200 year okay. It needs year old law. Okay. It needs tweaking. The idea that you tweaking. But the idea that you can your out of this is can find your way out of this is because these people dont necessarily money. If necessarily have money. And if they have and would they did have £2,000 and would find might end up find it, they might end up homeless. A minute. Find it, they might end up horleless. A minute. Find it, they might end up hori suppose a minute. Find it, they might end up hori suppose the minute. Find it, they might end up hori suppose the point e. Find it, they might end up hori suppose the point is that i suppose the point is that they get moved on and if theyre unable to pay the fine, a later date will at least theyve been uprooted. Possibly. Well, and it gets them system , doesnt it . Them in the system, doesnt it . Yeah. Its getting you involved because we have noticed. We not our high streets. Have we not our high streets. I mean, brighton has always been a a, you know, a little bit of a, you know, a hub definitely. But you know there are like quite a lot of paddington station every night like kind of camping gear emerges onto the, you know, not a bloke in a bedroll, but, but like a three man tent such as you might leave at Glastonbury Festival if you couldnt be bothered to collapse it. These sort of things are making a difference sort of things are making a diferah,e sort of things are making a diferah, i know youre a yeah, i know youre making a really argument that the really good argument that the problem solving. I think problem needs solving. I think im this necessarily im saying is this necessarily if to people if youre going to arrest people for smelling, everyone on the central times is going central line at times is going to nick. To end up in the nick. That would be good. To end up in the nick. Idat would be good. To end up in the nick. Id likeyuld be good. To end up in the nick. Id like oni be good. To end up in the nick. Id like on the good. To end up in the nick. Id like on the spoti. To end up in the nick. Id like on the spot fines for too much strong aftershave on tube. On the tube. On the tube. m on the tube. Be my next move. That would be my next move. That would be my next move. Sorry. Sorry. About the metro, steve . What about the metro, steve . What got . What do they got . Have gone with. They have gone with. Im a bit out order. Yeah. This bit out of order. Yeah. This clumsy husband blows £1,000 battling himself an battling against himself in an auction. Tories. Mean, auction. The tories. I mean, that embarrassing , his wife that is embarrassing, his wife debbie tells the story she watched shock while his, watched in shock while his, slightly younger than her husband like an husband was sat there like an absolute fool. Bidding against himself starts at £650, and he walks his way up in 50 quids, all the way up to a thousand. The audience were finding it hilarious worth hilarious. Probably not worth that money. Reason that much money. The reason i start have a lot of sympathy start to have a lot of sympathy for it, debbie is a for him is it, says debbie is a podcaster edinburgh. You podcaster from edinburgh. You poor oh, everything does poor man. Oh, everything he does is to be turned into an is going to be turned into an episode. Yes, hes done other things where apparently things before. Where apparently hes, car he hes, crashed their car and he melted their fridge. These are the kind of things that could have been ignored. But youve married a podcaster. Married a podcaster. Poor man. It does sound like it was a stunt and possibly for they may be a they may be like a pincer movement. Podcast couple, this podcast couple, i suspect you know that she is actually groomed him to become the hapless buffoon. Voice. Exactly a few my voice. Exactly a few charity auctions. Its not plausible that the auctioneer was not aware that the fellow you know, you dont take a second bid for somebody. There is a mechanism to prevent that. Unless was prevent that. Unless he was wearing hats and wearing literally two hats and tommy. Tommy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. From one corner of the room to the other. Anyway, all in to the other. Anyway, all in a good cause. Finally, the daily star press. Have they a boffin . Fridges are snitches. No, but they havent got a boffin. But i bet were some boffins that bet there were some boffins that went theyre talking went into this. Theyre talking about got some about fridges that have got some kind camera equipment that kind of camera equipment that spies this spies on you, i mean, is this for shared for people in shared accommodation , i guess i dont accommodation, i guess i dont know who stole the milk. Lets look the footage. Probably look at the footage. Probably lewis. Chauffeur. Lewis. Lewis chauffeur. Trying to lose oh, just trying to lose weight, i it would weight, maybe. I mean, it would be be able to be quite useful to be able to say. Did you. Oh really . Oh. Say. Oh, did you. Oh really . Oh. So i wonder who did have it then. And then , yeah. Be able to then. And then, yeah. Be able to run the footage. I would quite enjoy that. Yeah, but you never win a marital row with facts and evidence. The worst. The last thing you could do is google for the right answer, thats the right answer, because thats going bite you. Going to come back and bite you. It not be . It might but would it not be . It might be you might need be you might not need necessarily full blown camera. Necessarily a full blown camera. Maybe a tiny maybe you just need a tiny cardboard a police cardboard cut out of a Police Officer on top officer standing on the top shelf have in petrol shelf like they have in petrol stations. This. You feel stations. Just this. You feel youre could do. This is the you could do. This is the more technological more technical technological version of sticking kate moss on the fridge, isnt it . Yeah. Someones watching you. We all do right . Young and, do that, right . I was young and, i had a friend. I remember his name, christopher something. Anyway, his parents, they were quite sort of. They sort of sort of. They were sort of slightly cool, you know, slightly hippie cool, you know, modern parents. They had a picture, postcard picture, a postcard of an extraordinarily, like, grotesquely overweight woman naked on the front of the fridge. And that, it turned out, was to try and, incentivise. Well, theyre doing it. Well, theyre doing it. Theres. Theres. I misunderstood it completely. I thought it was like a. Come on, that is your friend thin or is he just into really large . Seen him for a very long time, but itd be interesting to follow him up. Yeah. Check out his date. They were acetic. Yeah its now. Its a feeder now. Any. Any. I wonder hes sitting at i wonder if hes sitting at home watching, going. I knew that out sooner that would come out sooner or later. Well those were your front pages coming up in the second half. We goodness , second half. We have, goodness, i think we have, all the latest from j. K. Rowling , rail. We have from j. K. Rowling, rail. We have Difficult Conversations becoming impossible. Says woman in, in impossible. Says woman in, in soundproof booth and many more bucha. Welcome back to headliners with me, simon evans. Im still with comedian Stephen Allen and cressida wetton. Were going have a look inside the going to have a look inside the papers now, and kick off papers now, and we kick off steve good, if steve with good, if unsurprising, the metro. Unsurprising, news in the metro. Free on, free speech staggers on, but polite , i fear, is dead, polite fiction, i fear, is dead, so jk rowling wont face police action. Despite inviting arrest over scotlands new hate crime law. I dont know if its even been mentioned on this show, but scotland has a new hate, law hate sort of triviality doesnt concern us. You know, fridges that record when youve eaten food, thats what were about. So the fridge starts to use. Sizeist. Slurs. Yeah sizeist. Slurs. Yeah in scotland round. So it says scotlands hate. In the article, scotlands hate. In the article, scotlands hate. In the article, scotlands hate. In the article, scotlands hate crime and public order brackets scotland act 2021 update that year , its just come update that year, its just come into effect, isnt it . But you could get seven years if you. Heres the quote. Communicate material or behave in a manner that a reasonable person would consider to be threatening or abusive, especially if you include their protected characteristics. That back characteristics. That comes back later. Some april later. So she posted some april fools jokes, which were actually they werent jokes, was it . It was. It was making a point. And she wont face arrest for this. Firstly, i would feel sorry for anyone sent around to arrest her. If you cant afford a lawyer er , yeah, you know what i lawyer er, yeah, you know what i mean. But then the police say theyll take no further action. Ihopeifs theyll take no further action. I hope its because of the ray of this. Because a of light in this. Because a reasonable might reasonable person test might be kicking you can rely kicking in if. If you can rely on the legal system to that on the legal system to run that test. So its not just test. Yeah. So its not just youve said a word that people are offended by. It needs to be obvious you were trying obvious that you were trying to cause you were cause harassment and you were including some of these words. Think i think i think i think realistically, shes realistically, obviously, shes shes trying to use a high profile , provocation to, to test profile, provocation to, to test and destroy the law to prove that it cant be employed. Yeah. And doing a very good job. And shes done a great job to bnng and shes done a great job to bring sort of ridicule down upon the whole thing. But it probably isnt actually test, is isnt actually a useful test, is it . Think its it . I dont think its demonstrated that you can, for instance, simply assert that trans women ar