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GBN Britains July 3, 2024

Woke rebrand of a flag. Team gbs union jack has turned pink and purple on a supporters flag for the Paris Olympics. Will it make it onto the final official kit . Let make it onto the final official kit. 7 let us make it onto the final official kit . Let us know your views and hughes hefty salary despite being taken off air last year, the bbcs huw edwards is still expected to be the highest paid newsreader when the annual salary salary list is revealed this year and childcare. Rollout this year and childcare. Rollout parents are set to receive more support in the governments new funding package. But is it enough . Yes, the government says working parents will qualify for up to £7,000 worth a year of Free Childcare with this huge rollout. But if you have a two year old today, you now qualify. But will you be able to get a place and ashamed of anti semitism . The former home secretary, Suella Braverman , has blasted Suella Braverman, has blasted anti jewish behaviour in britain let let us know your thoughts this morning on all our talking points. The huw edwards one is tncky. Points. The huw edwards one is tricky. He hasnt been found tricky. He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Lets remember that hes currently resting in an institute, as far as we know, for support with his Mental Health, which is why he cant. The argument is, how long do you go on paying him 430 k a year . Contracts when . You go on paying him 430 k a year . Right. 1tracts when . You go on paying him 430 k a year . Right. So cts when . You go on paying him 430 k a year . Right. So thats when . You go on paying him 430 k a year . Right. So thats another . You go on paying him 430 k a ye� millionlt. So thats another . You go on paying him 430 k a ye� million forso thats another . You go on paying him 430 k a ye� million for doing s another . You go on paying him 430 k a ye� million for doing nothing. Er . £1 million for doing nothing. £9 million of your money at home. Of course it does seem wrong, but really, should a man who is struggling with his Mental Health not be paid his salary because then he would take the bbc to court and they might end up paying him more. What a mess. Gb views at gb news. Com is the email address. That and a lot more. First though, latest news though, the very latest news with francis. With sam francis. Bev and ben thank you very much. Good morning from the gb newsroom. Itsjust much. Good morning from the gb newsroom. Its just gone half past nine and leading the news this morning. Aid workers from here britain and australia here in britain and australia are seven people are among seven people understood to have been killed in an ngo has described as in what an ngo has described as an israeli airstrike in gaza. An israeli airstrike in gaza. They were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo, and coordinated their movements with the Defence Forces, the Israeli Defence forces, others understand, the Israeli Defence forces, others palestiniansderstand, the Israeli Defence forces, others palestiniansderstpeople include palestinians and people from. Israel from the us and poland. Israel says it is now conducting a thorough review of that incident, and the Foreign Office here in the uk its aware here in the uk says its aware of reports. The australian of those reports. The australian prime anthony Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, has confirmed the death of a 44 year old Australian Aid worker and said he expects to see full accountability for their deaths. Accountability for their deaths. We certainly have already contacted the Israeli Government directly. We are contacting the israeli ambassador, to ask for, accountable city here, the truth is that that this is beyond, beyond any reasonable circumstances. Someone going about providing aid and humanity , an assistance should lose their life. Their life. Well, as weve been hearing this morning, the Prime Minister is now backing jk rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. It came into force yesterday and outlaws hatred against people on certain grounds , including age, grounds, including age, disability, sexuality and people who are transgender. But the author says the law risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and womens rights. Rishi sunak backs those concerns. He says that people concerns. He says that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology , stating simple facts on biology, and labour has today launched a new campaign that it calls the cost of chaos, aimed at exposing the governments economic policies in the lead up to the next election. The Campaign Next election. The campaign website, which goes live today, aims to show the cost of decisions made by the government like scrapping parts of the hs2 rail project. Sir Keir Starmers party, though, claims the government spent more than government has spent more than £8 on what calls £8 billion on what he calls wasted projects. Under rishi sunaks leadership, the government in response, says that the website is a waste of time and called on labour to devote more attention to setting out its own plans as. Devote more attention to setting out its own plans as. Those are out its own plans as. Those are the latest headlines from gb the latest headlines from the gb newsroom for now, you can of course sign up to gb news alerts. Just the code on alerts. Just scan the code on your gb news. Your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now though , com slash alerts. Now though, its back to ben and. Bev. Its back to ben and. Bev. All right good morning. Its 934. Welcome to britains newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and ben leo sitting in for Andrew Pierce is on his easter holidays. Yes. Welcome back. Hope you had a Pleasant Bank holiday weekend. Was your easter as was your easter just as pleasant . I like ive been pleasant . I feel like ive been hit by a this morning. Pleasant . I feel like ive been hit you this morning. Pleasant . I feel like ive been hit you tithisforning. Pleasant . I feel like ive been hit you tithisfornilof our you know, this lack of our sleep. Feel like ive got two sleep. I feel like ive got two of like ive got jet of us. I feel like ive got jet lag. We had a lovely weekend. Family weekend, big birthdays, wonderful. Chocolate. Family weekend, big birthdays, wonder you chocolate. Family weekend, big birthdays, wonder you looking, hocolate. Family weekend, big birthdays, wonder you looking, hocolaand are you looking, bright and vibrant to go . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling to go . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling. To go . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling. It, to go . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling. It, but to go . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling. It, but here to go . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling. It, but here we jo . Are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling. It, but here we go. Not feeling. It, but here we go. Lets go. Lets go. Okay, right. Lets crack on with our first story. The Scottish Governments new hate crime and public order act has come and its come into effect, and its caused stir its first caused a huge stir in its first 24 hours. Nato. Prime minister, rishi so the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, said that people so the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, not said that people so the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, not be d that people so the Prime Minister, rishi sunak, not be criminalised; should not be criminalised for stating biology stating simple facts on biology as rowling in her as he backed jk rowling in her criticism new scottish hate criticism of new scottish hate crime laws. W scotlands first minister, humza the humza yousaf, has insisted the law empower victims of law will empower victims of hatred public hatred whilst maintaining public freedom. Freedom of expression. So are snp successfully so are the snp successfully tackling prejudice here . Are they protecting enough people of, with certain characteristics . I think this is a potentially tyrannical. Piece a potentially tyrannical. Piece of legislation. Lets discuss it now with lgbtq activist Peter Tatchell and womens rights activist eva comrie. Good morning to you both, peter. Just explain us this is a good explain to us why this is a good piece. It a good piece of piece. Is it a good piece of legislation . Fact, in your legislation . In fact, in your opinion . Opinion . Well, the aim of the legislation is to protect people against hate. And that is a good against hate. And that is a good thing, because hate can be very damaging to people both psychologically and emotionally. And course, physically, we and of course, physically, we have clear, though , that have to be clear, though, that this legislation merely extends the race hate laws to other protected characteristics like the hatred based on, religion, disability. Age, sexuality and disability. Age, sexuality and so on. What it doesnt do is extend it to women who are victims of hate , or travelling victims of hate, or travelling communities who are also victims of hate. So i think on that score, the legislation shows support. I dont shores fort shores short. I dont shores falls short. I dont understand why the Scottish Government hasnt in particular included within this included women within this legislation. Now it says that it will extend protection to women under a new misogyny bill, but that a long time that has been a long time coming, and would the coming, and i would urge the Scottish Government to speed up the legislation of that misogyny bill and id also just question why should women be excluded from a comprehensive hate crime law and protected in a separate law . Separate is not equal. Law . Separate is not equal. Women should have been included in that legislation that came into force yesterday. And of course, there should be the new, wider, broader bill as well. Eva , woman to woman. I dont eva, woman to woman. I dont feel like i necessarily want to be included on this bill. I can choose to be offended if somebody say some mean words to me, or i can choose not to be offended, cant i . Well, the difficulty that we have here with this legislation is that although peter is absolutely correct in saying that to protect that we have to protect everybody, particularly everybody, but particularly minorities against hate, there is no evidence in scotland that hate crime is on the rise. In fact, contrary to what our first minister, humza yousaf, said yesterday, the latest hate crime figures for scotland show generally a decrease , so one generally a decrease, so one would whether there is would question whether there is any for legislation at any need for this legislation at all. If there is a need for this legislation , then women legislation, then women certainly should be protected because at the moment, under this new law, men who choose to cross dress are protected, women are not. And that really is a pretty awful set of circumstances, especially when we promised law against we were promised a law against misogyny, thus remains misogyny, which thus far remains. In the aether. May i suggest that both of you that this this point about protecting womens rights is a bit of herring . What does bit of a red herring . What does hate mean . Its such a flimsy, vague these i mean, vague word these days. I mean, what peter . What are vague word these days. I mean, whatalking peter . What are vague word these days. I mean, whatalking about . er . What are you talking about . Well, that is one of well, well, that is one of the other the the other flaws in the legislation. In he words, key legislation. In he words, key concepts like hate, prejudice, malice and ill will, all of which are words in the legislation they are not defined, so theyre open to different interpretations by different interpretations by different people. Now, it does say that this will depend on the interpretation by a reasonable person. An but even reasonable person. An but even reasonable people have different ideas about what constitutes hate. Well, peter, the speech, there are some free speech protections. It does say that the legislation will not prohibit discussion or criticism of issues. And it also includes the right to shock, disturb or offend. So those are some offend. So those are some safeguards. And thats thats good. Thats progress. But again its all down to interpretation ian. And its all down to interpretation ian. And we know from other legislation like the public order act with its clause about harassment, alarm and distress, that those are often interpreted very differently by Different Police officers, different Crown Prosecution Service staff and by different so it does different judges. So it does leave a bit of a question mark about how exactly this law will be enforced. But i want to emphasise that plan to cut down on hate is a good thing. And what is hate . Youre saying it again. What do you mean, hate . It means so many Different Things to different people. This word hate is deliberately vague because its going to be used in a way to silence free speech. Thats what opponents of this, this, this legislation are saying. What does hate mean . Youve said this legislation are saying. Wagain,es hate mean . Youve said this legislation are saying. Wagain,es hiyou nean . Youve said this legislation are saying. Wagain,es hiyou know, youve said this legislation are saying. Wagain,es hiyou know, whate said it again, but you know, what does mean . It again, but you know, what doewell,iean . It again, but you know, what doewell, ian . It again, but you know, what doewell, i just explained to you well, i just explained to you that i mean, that you didnt really i mean, if if i, if i say to you, if i if i, if i say to you, peter man united are rubbish, are going to that are you going to is that hateful . Em w w e me to, to the, can you report me to, to the, to the Scottish Police for that. The legislation no, because the legislation says it will not an says that it will not be an offence criticism. To offence to make criticism. To discuss an issue or to shock disturb. So if i, if i say trans women are men, is that hateful. No, no, thats thats thats an opinion and that is protected under the legislation. Its this its this idea of stirring up hate either, isnt it . That is concerning. Because it . That is concerning. Because if somebody would deem what bens just said to not just be hateful, but to be encouraging, to be stirring up hatred that is so subjective , love. And it so subjective, love. And it isnt going to stop people having hateful thoughts. I quite like to know who hates who, and i quite like people to feel free to express who they hate. And then i know what im dealing with. 9 know that a lot of well, we know that a lot of women, particularly public women, particularly in public life, to life, are subjected to horrendous organised hate campaigns, on campaigns, particularly on social media, vile, hateful things. I mean, using words i cant use on on this programme. Sure, you know, those kinds of that kind of harassment, that kind of sustained harassment against women, using vituperative. And sensationalist vituperative. And sensationalist and really vicious language over and really vicious language over a sustained period that, to me, would constitute hate. But even beyond mere criticism or discussion of an issue. Eva, come in on that. Hang on, peter , i just want hang on, peter, i just want to hear from eva. Peter. Just eva. Eva to hear from eva. Peter. Just eva. Eva comrie. Just just comment on that if you would. Well, the legislation often refers to conduct that is threatening or abusive or insulting, so person is insulting, so that a person is able claim that they have able to claim that they have been insulted and unfortunately, the legislation enables anonymous reports to be made and for people to have non hate crime incidents recorded against them without their knowledge or consent. I think youll be aware that has already happened that that has already happened to the msp murdo fraser. So i, as a woman who supports scottish independence, find it quite distasteful that unfortunately im on the same side as murdo fraser, one of scotlands most famous or infamous unionist msps. So there are innumerable difficulties thrown up by this legislation , not the least of legislation, not the least of which is that women simply are not only not protected, women are now hugely concerned about vexatious complaints, such as complaints for simply saying that trans women are in fact male. So a colleague of mine, sally hughes , yesterday went to sally hughes, yesterday went to the Police Office in perth where she used to work. Shes a retired cop and she posed some questions asking for advice and guidance in respect of what sentences were now able to use and which had now become banned. The Police Officer who dealt with her explained that Police Scotland are in the course of hiring hate crime advisers. Now thats news to us. We dont know from where these hate crime advisers have come in. Are they internal appointments . Are they new jobs to be created . Despite new jobs to be created . Despite the fact that the police in scotland claim that they are underfund . Did they do have underfund . Did they do not have enough to deal with enough officers to deal with current of crimes, let current substance of crimes, let alone deal with hate crime . Now im not suggesting that we minimise the issue of hate crime , but i think we should say is put it in context, in the year 2022 to 2023, throughout scotland, there were less than 6000 reports of hate crime. Now, those reports do not necessarily lead to convictions, but the population is 5. 5 million. Hate crime is not the worst or most awful type of crime. On the political agenda in scotland to

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