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Michael gove, keen to appoint a new tsar to deal with islamic phobia because that it seems to be the major problem as far as the governments concerned. Much talk about prejudice against muslims and yet almost no talk in westminster about prejudice going the other way. I met going the other way. I met people over the weekend saying, well, if they want to protect the muslim community, what about us. 7 who is going to protect us. 7 well, from that we get precious little. Just one of the chants little. Just one of the chants that was available for those who care to listen on the london streets this week was one about yemen. Just watch these scenes ship to ship around yemen. Ship to ship around yemen. Yemen too rough for you from seven over ship around guys. You know what that reference is. 7 the you know what that reference is . The yemen reference. Is . The yemen reference. Im listening to my earpiece. Sorry the yemen reference. What that is to the houthis proscribed terror. Proscribed terror. Im listening to my earpiece. Sorry, you didnt hear anything. Theyre still doing it now. Theyre still doing it now. Been recorded the its all been recorded by the police monitor. Okay, well, fine. Thanks. Thanks for your help. Thanks for your help. Well, perfectly clear. What was happening there . There we had the mob in the street effectively supporting the houthis, an organisation who are a terrorist organisation proscribed in america. Not yet here, for reasons i dont quite understand. And theyre saying, understand. And theyre saying, please turn more ships around. Please turn more ships around. That means send more rockets, send more missiles, kill more merchant seamen. And yet old bill just conquered efan, as if to say nothing to do with us, governor. Its all too difficult. But now put the boot on the other foot and have a look at the case of niyak ghorbani. Now he is an iranian, an iranian dissident, very against the islamist, you know, regime that has been there for the last 40 years. And he was out on the london streets holding up a sign. Yes, i accept that. It may well have been provocative to many of the marchers, but the sign simply said hamas are terrorists. And yes, they are , because they are yes, they are, because they are prescribed by the british government. They are recognised as a terrorist organisation. And yet for his trouble of standing up with a sign saying something that was actually factually correct, he found himself well, of course, to begin with, abused by many of the marchers. But then he knew he get that, but then he knew he get that, but then pounced upon by up to half a dozen Police Officers, up to half a dozen Police Officers wrestled him to the ground, and he was arrested. Yep. Arrested for holding up a sign that told the truth and some of these scenes are really quite extraordinary. In fact, i scenes are really quite extraordinary. In fact, i find it hard to believe this is even happening in a country that is our own. But that is what is going on. Yes, it was provocative. I accept that , i provocative. I accept that, i get that, but for the police to ignore chance encouraging the houthis to send missiles against merchant vessels and this guy gets, gets literally pushed to the ground by the police and arrested. Now he was later on de arrested now in mitigation , de arrested now in mitigation, there was a post put up on X Formerly Twitter , a Community Formerly twitter, a Community Posting which said a video has been posted alleging officers arrested a man for having an anti hamas placard. This isnt accurate, he was arrested after an altercation was ongoing and officers intervened to prevent a breach of the peace. He was arrested for assault. Well, one man against 200,000. Maybe he was officers then fully reviewed the footage and he was later de arrested. The arrest was not de arrested. The arrest was not made in relation to the placard. Well, you can believe what you want to believe, but have a look. Have a listen to this interview that was done by an undercover journalist with gorban shortly afterwards. Why have you been arrested . Just because i write it down . Hamas is terrorists organisation. Thats it, thats it. What did it . What did it say on your sign . What did it say on your sign . What did it say on your sign . Hamas is terrorist uk law , uk hamas is terrorist uk law, uk put the hamas terrorist organisation. On march 2001 and organisation. On march 2001 and they arrested me because of that i thats it. Theyve arrested you because of the sign . Exactly well, ive given you all sides of the argument. There including a community note. But let me ask you , do you think we let me ask you, do you think we now have two tier policing in this country . Because you know what i do, and with every week that goes by, i fear it gets worse. Do we have two tier policing . Your thoughts please to farage at gb news. Com well im joined by Chris Phillips , im joined by Chris Phillips, former detective chief inspector of the metropolitan police and head of the National CounterTerrorism Security office. Terrorism security office. Chris, i am the least not anti Police Person you could ever meet. And you know that ever meet. And you know that weve known each other for years. I want the police to do theirjob and do it well. How theirjob and do it well. How can i look at these events from last saturday at what has been going on ever since october the 7th, when this began and not think that the met have twisted priorities . Priorities . Its a very interesting one, nigel. And what id say is, i think you need to look at just talking about this weekend. The two instances separate. First, you have probably officers that should have done much more than they did to deal with the chants that were ongoing. And im surprised they didnt because i think theres a need to deal more with those. They cocked a deafen. You saw it. Yeah. And i agree that theres been too much of that. And i think listen, the legislation is in place and they should be should dealing with should be should be dealing with it. Not easy, though, go it. Its not easy, though, to go into crowds and arrest people. Lets be quite honest. Lets lets be quite honest. Ive crowds. Ive dealt with many crowds. Ive dealt with many crowds. Ive order ive been in public order situations years, but situations over the years, but but let me deal with the but just let me deal with the other incident. This gentleman, it complete social media it was a complete social media stitch up. Hes got his friend photographing him, taking the video. Stands in the middle video. He stands in the middle of a crowd with a placard that he knows will cause some offence, and the police wont have seen what the what the what the camera person was looking because i think the police were behind him. They stepped in to deal with the breach of the peace assault. Peace and assault. So the truth causes offence . Well, no, youre right, it shouldnt do. But let me let me give you an example that is probably similar. Give you an example that is probably similar. And ive seen probably similar. And ive seen this many times, a Chelsea Supporter makes its way into the tottenham end and starts shouting, hes a chelsea fan who gets arrested. Its not the 5000 tottenham fans that are standing there. Its the chelsea fan that has to be taken out and dealt with. You know, if you put yourself in a position where youre going to cause a breach of peace, now i know that of the peace, now i know that that wasnt, you know, an inflammatory statement. It shouldnt course, if shouldnt be. But of course, if you yourself into the you put yourself into the position where you are position often where you are going cause some harm and going to cause some harm and youre going to cause a disorderly situation, the polices job as peace officers is to go in to remove that person out. Now, they arrested him for assault or breach of the peace or whatever, reviewed the, reviewed cameras and he was reviewed the cameras and he was released. And i think funny that. Yeah, i mean, look, but i think it was a deliberate stitch. Chris i okay, how do you get famous . Nigel. You get famous by putting yourself on the social media. Days. Well, what media. These days. Well, what would all the stations i know about all the stations will come in and watch it. I know said twice in my i know i said twice in my talking that it was a deliberate, wilful, provocative act. And i accept that with his cameraman standing right opposite. No, i no, no, i get all of that. No, i no, no, i get all of that. And its very tough for that. And its very tough for the police. It didnt need to arrest him , did they. Arrest him, did they. Well yes. I mean you do need to arrest people to take them out of the dangerous situation to some extent. Just have a word well, they just have a word with as come with me. With them as they come with me. Like that. Let it never works like that. Let me you, in public order me tell you, in public order situations, works like situations, it never works like that. But. But yes. Listen, its very difficult policing public order they order situations. I think they were out were right to take him out because would have been because there would have been a breach of the peace. Im sure over course of the next 20 over the course of the next 20 minutes or so, he was deliberately doing that to get himself himself himself attention, get himself fame programmes this, fame on programmes like this, and do that. And and hes managed to do that. And i we need to just give the i think we need to just give the police a little bit of a leeway here. Public order is not easy, and when youre with and when youre dealing with thousands i get that. And when youre dealing with tho and ds i get that. And when youre dealing with tho and the i get that. And when youre dealing with tho and the police i get that. And when youre dealing with tho and the police are get that. And the police are outnumbered and clearly theyre scared outnumbered and clearly theyre sca i� d they are. And i think i think they are. And i think we have listen, i over we have got listen, i think over the years there the last couple of years there has a lack of real positive has been a lack of real positive policing. And i think theres a number reasons that. Number of reasons for that. I think one, these days are think one, police these days are very in service. Weve got very young in service. Weve got the vast majority because of theresa mays and David Camerons work, have managed to the experience. People have the experience. People have experience of all gone. Weve got a load young police got a load of young Police Officers there, theyre officers out there, and theyre quite use the powers quite scared to use the powers and theyre scared to use their powers because they fear whats going to happen to them if they do use them, because the same social will be getting social media will be getting these officers suspended these Police Officers suspended and taking the Police Officers to court. And weve got weve got officers waiting to go got officers now waiting to go to because because of to court because because of things theyve use things that theyve tried to use their powers. I take your argument, Chris Phillips, your argument phillips, i take your argument that was the deliberately that it was the deliberately wilful, act, even wilful, provocative act, even though it was lawful. Right. Though it was lawful. All right. Let accept that. However, you let me accept that. However, you mentioned the police should have done , but the chance on done more, but the chance on houthi missiles. What i cannot believe is a couple of wednesdays back, three wednesdays back, three wednesdays back, three wednesdays back, we had projected onto the elizabeth tower beneath big ben from the river to the sea, a wilful rageous genocide. Not a single rageous genocide. Not a single arrest. Yeah, not one single arrest. Yeah, not one single arrest. Where the hell is sir mark rowley and the met in this . Well i totally agree. And i think theres a risk averse culture within the met now right from the middle ranking higher ranking, but also at the base level where officers are really scared to use their powers at the, at the, you know, at the risk of being called a racist, quite simply. And i think weve seen the same in the schools. You know, weve still got a teacher in batley whos in hiding because because of actually doing his job properly. And definitely an issue and there is definitely an issue throughout society. And thats permeated into who runs the met. Is it sir mark rowley or is it sadiq khan . I think its absolutely sir mark rowley, but of course he he works for mayor khan and its as simple as that. And its a very simple as that. And its a very difficult call. I mean, each you know, for, for hundreds of years now weve had Police Officers, constables able their constables able to make their own decisions. I was own decisions. If i was a constable on the streets and i saw that incident taking place in front of me, i hadnt seen the sign because i was behind them. I would have probably made them. I would have probably made the same decision as the officers did over the weekend. But that doesnt mean to say in you know, in cold light of you know, in the cold light of day, when you look all the day, when you look at all the evidence look at whats evidence and look at whats happened, that that actually happened, that that was actually the decision. Lets the right decision. But lets cut some to the police cut some slack to the Police Officers. Youve make officers. Youve got to make very decisions. Very quick decisions. And i think mistakes have been think many mistakes have been made, in the made, particularly in the policing of these demonstrations. But i think saturday deliberate effort saturday was a deliberate effort to wind up the police and get some fame that person. And some fame for that person. And hes to do it. Hes managed to do it. Chris phillips, as ever, i respect point of view. Respect your point of view. I understand your point, mr understand your point, about mr corbyn, but i dont get your point fully about why we just allow pro terrorist slogans to be chanted on britains streets. As ever. Thank you. Thank you for coming on the programme in a moment. Well, a big political moment. Well, a big political moment. The former deputy moment. The former deputy chairman of the conservative party, lee anderson, joins reform. Ill be joined in a moment by christopher gb news, political editor. He will tell us all and i will not say anything. I wont even dare comment. Otherwise ofcom will be comment. Otherwise ofcom will be given more ammunition to close down this programme he was he was a miner. He was a labour activist and supporter. He was even an agent for a labour mp up in his home constituency in north nottinghamshire. But then north nottinghamshire. But then lee anderson became a conservative in 2019. And hes been pretty high profile. In fact, he was even promoted, pushed up in the conservative party but hes gone now , he, of party but hes gone now, he, of course, lost the whip over being very critical of sadiq khan and perhaps using language that wasnt as polite as maybe it should have been. But today hes should have been. But today hes joined reform uk and the press has gone absolutely potty over it. It is, i think, a huge story. And of course i cant comment. Im only the honorary president of reform. But given that ofcom have tried to classify me, reclassify me as a politician , theyd love to take politician, theyd love to take me off air. So im going to be really careful and cautious about this. By the way, ofcom im a celebrity get me out of here, happiness, an ex politician and a broadcaster. But fight will for but that fight will have for another day. Christopher hope another day. So Christopher Hope gb edhon another day. So Christopher Hope gb editor. Take gb news political editor. Take it away. What was the significance of Lee Andersons move today evening . Nigel, its big, i think, because, lee anderson was the red wall made flesh. To quote your friend Nick Robinson from the bbc. I mean, he says he was seen by many in the tory party, certainly amongst those grassroots in the south as who are these northern cousins who voted for us suddenly in 2019. And lee anderson, to be fair to him, he put the hours in. He basically went around all of those seats speaking on the rubber chicken speaking rubber chicken circuit, speaking to look , you know, to them, saying, look, you know, we have we were the north we have we were in the north too. North is not where too. Well, north is not where its midlands really. But we its in midlands really. But we support, the, the, the policy of the tory party like you do. And here i am. And thats why i think its almost a severing of that connection to the north, i think. And red wall seats, think. And the red wall seats, the, the lions and represented the, the lions and represented the tories would deny that. They would say, well, this guy hasnt been a tory mp for two weeks, lost whip saying that been a tory mp for two weeks, lost khanip saying that been a tory mp for two weeks, lost khan was saying that been a tory mp for two weeks, lost khan was controlled hat by sadiq khan was controlled by by islamists, extremists and rest of it. And he said it was clumsy language, but he wouldnt apologise. James apologise. Jeremy hunt and James Cleverly apologise. Apologise. Jeremy hunt and james cleve he apologise. Apologise. Jeremy hunt and james clevehe refused apologise. Apologise. Jeremy hunt and james cleve he refused to apologise. Apologise. Jeremy hunt and james clevehe refused to and gise. Apologise. Jeremy hunt and james cleve he refused to and we e. Apologise. Jeremy hunt and james cleve he refused to and we are they he refused to and we are where we are. But i think its a real moment, i think, and it could, there could be more following rumours following him. There are rumours in Parliament Nine other tory in parliament of nine other tory mps follow to reform. Mps could follow him to reform. Thats quite toppy number, thats quite a toppy number, i think. Even so, if others think. But even so, if others follow him, you start getting a kind of momentum behind this follow him, you start getting a kind that, mentum behind this follow him, you start getting a kind that, mentithe behind this follow him, you start getting a kind that, mentithe troyes this idea that, yeah, the troyes arent wing enough and arent right wing enough and that at about right that comes up at about right wing. That comes up at about right wing mean, you know, im not i mean, you know, im not sure. Right. And me much sure. Right. And left me much anymore. The sort of things anymore. But the sort of things lee about is connecting lee talks about is connecting with class voters my with working class voters as my country said, didnt he country back, he said, didnt he . The rallying cry, . That was the rallying cry, a slogan that ive heard before. Slogan that ive heard before. He just gave it, yeah, i want my country back. It was very, very strong weather. Nine others go or not. I mean, lee, you know, richard, you know, richard tice is saying hes the red wall champion with a plan to tour lee around the northern constituencies. It could be quite a road show. He would. He would connect with that. So youve got Boris Johnson . Of course, who managed to a rather amazing politician who united those two, the southern and Northern Branch of the tory party due respect to party with all due respect to richard he hasnt richard tice, i think he hasnt got in the north. I think got that in the north. I think hes seen a bit more of a hes happy south, where happy amongst the south, where maybe maybe base lee maybe hes maybe his base is lee anderson a part of anderson gives gives a part of the person can tour the extra person who can tour around northern red wall around that northern red wall caused labour some problems as much the tories, possibly in much as the tories, possibly in some today he some seats, hed said. Today he will 630 seats. The will fight 630 seats. The election stand like election wont stand down like the brexit did back in the the brexit party did back in the day, nigel, that was day, nigel, and that was obviously and obviously painful for you and your friends. You had your and your friends. You had to down. Will not to stand down. That will not happen. So right now the talk there are mps have been there are all the mps have been out tonight with rishi sunak. Hes spring hes been at the 1922 spring reception. All looking reception. Theyre all looking at whos next, who at each other. Whos next, who might some have might go next. And some have been walking up to in the been walking up to me in the commons. Ive come straight from there may notes of my order there now. May notes of my order paper denying theyre paper here denying theyre jumping. Theyre jumping. They call, theyre calling this calling lee hanson. This kamikaze approach towards politics. Some politics. But ive got some names my, my piece of paper names on my, my piece of paper here. I wont show listeners. Not fair to the mps, but there are names being circulated about who next defection. Who might be next defection. What watch. But i what defection. Watch. But i will will those to myself. Do you think in number 10 tonight saying, well , tonight theyre saying, well, lee anderson, a bit of a loudmouth, a bit of a maverick. Loudmouth, a bit of a maverick. You know, actually hes not going do us any harm. Or are going to do us any harm. Or are they worried they will they really worried they will be sitting south . Sitting in the south . Think the south, some i think in the south, some southern tories will well, southern tories will go, well, we told there werent we told you so. There werent really tories. There were brexiteers, not tories, and brexiteers, but not tories, and theyve back really theyve gone back to really where which is where they should be, which is almost seat, sure almost a swing seat, not sure where going stand. So where theyre going to stand. So i thats if thats i think thats if thats a problem, because that means theyre retrenching to where the tory are. Tory party are. That would a blue wall that would be a blue wall strategy. Exactly so we surrender red surrender the red wall. Wall in someone in the blue wall in the told me that the south west told me that thing that tonight thing exactly that tonight they they think, well, my members are thinking, you go, lanson. Thinking, off you go, lanson. You really one us you werent really one of us anyway. Yeah. You know i think . I do you know what i think . I think theyre snobby. Yeah, i think theyre middle class. Middle upper class . Hes a working lad who worked working class lad who worked down. Down the pit. People are. And theres nothing with that. You nothing wrong with that. If you get your thats fine. Get your own mp, thats fine. But problem is thats not but the problem is thats not a unifying the whole unifying strategy for the whole country. The problem. Country. Thats the problem. Biggest problem i think the biggest problem is lee anderson is not just with lee anderson and the tories, but the whole of london is snobby. I think about opinions outside it, opinions outside of it, and maybe, lee represents maybe, maybe lee represents that. Be that. Its going to be absolutely fascinating. Christopher thank Christopher Hope as ever. Thank you. There are. No comment you. There we are. No comment from at all. Ofcom. You from me at all. Ofcom. Are you watching really watching now . A really interesting moment. Sir keir starmer, who cant define what a woman is. And when hes asked by nick ferrari whether a woman can have a penis im sorry, i know its before the watershed, but this is what is going on in our country. Cant answer the question. And now it appears a rather big shift because he now backs ban on transgender backs a ban on Transgender Athletes in female competition. I mean, why were even having this debate is totally and utterly beyond me. But we have been for some time, and weve seen swimming champions that were men termed women and many other sports cycling, etc. Well, one person who put her head over the parapet on this some time ago and has taken a shedload of abuse is, of course, sharron davies, former olympic swimmer for great britain. And sharron joins me down the line live right now. Sharron, you were you right now. Sharron, you were you were very early on this and i know you were called you were called terrible things by a lot of people. You were bigoted. You were this, you were that. Do you begin to feel that maybe the pendulum is swinging back towards common sense and fairness for female athletes . Fairness for female athletes . Yeah. Youre right. So the ioc changed the rule in 2015. So ive been talking about this since 2015. And the reason i talk about it so much is that east german era that i was involved with, you know, where those young girls given those young girls were given huge amounts testosterone, huge amounts of testosterone, put form of male put through a form of male puberty, then totally puberty, and then totally dominated sport for 20 dominated womens sport for 20 years and nothing was done. So i saw many of my friends lose saw so many of my friends lose out, and i just did not want to see another generation of young girls out because exactly girls lose out because exactly the going to the same thing was going to happen. Even worse, because happen. But even worse, because this wasnt east germans, this wasnt just east germans, this wasnt just east germans, this be across the this was going to be across the whole and across every whole world. And across every single now got single sport. And weve now got about 900 trans about eight, 900 trans identifying that know about eight, 900 trans identifgot] that know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in that know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the it know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the fa know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the fa just|ow about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the fa just here weve got 50in the fa just here in the england and in fact, just this last couple of weeks weve had fa not standing up for had the fa not standing up for a league of 6000 young girls up in yorkshire, where the parents of a trans identifying young boy says he wants play football says he wants to play football with girls. The parents and with the girls. The parents and the girls have said, no, we want to keep this, you know, as a girls sport, please, for safety and for fairness and fa and for fairness and the fa said, were going to close you down. Outranks 6000 down. So one boy outranks 6000 girls who want to play fair sport. And this is how ridiculous this this has become. Ihave ridiculous this this has become. I have to say, its good news to hear what keir has to say today. Im not holding my breath if im really honest, because theres a lot of this that goes on. And first and foremost, he needs to be able to identify what a woman is. You know, we cant protect women if we cant define them. And at the moment, the equality act has been, purposely made grey. Thing we need grey. So the first thing we need to is clarify that. And to do is to clarify that. And when we use the word sex, we mean biological sex. And we need to be able defend sex to be able to defend sex discrimination this country. Discrimination in this country. And the moment its very and at the moment its very difficult to do that. Biological sex and this is biological sex through it . Through puberty, isnt it . Isnt that key point . That the key point . Its biological sex. Well, its biological sex. Full stop. Humans cant full stop. So humans cant change its absolutely change sex. Its absolutely impossible that, you know. Impossible to do that, you know. And word intersex , which is impossible to do that, you know. An� old word intersex , which is impossible to do that, you know. An� Old Fashioned ersex , which is impossible to do that, you know. An� Old Fashioned word, which is impossible to do that, you know. An� Old Fashioned word, really. Is an Old Fashioned word, really. Its dsd differences sexual its dsd differences of Sexual Development, people with development, even people with differences of Sexual Development who are in absolutely minuscule part of society, still or society, theyre still male or female , and they still cannot female, and they still cannot change sex. So, you know, it doesnt matter what hormones you take, how much testosterone you suppress, what surgery you take, you still be male or female you will still be male or female. Thats biological. And in fact, things like schwanger, which is the shape of your hips to your knees, its irrelevant. That will stay the same, you know . And for women, its much wider because obviously were childbearing and Something Like football six times as many acl knee injuries for females compared males because of our compared to males because of our our anatomy. Compared to males because of our our anatomy. So its just you know, and also you have to remember theres only a thousand women in the uk that earn their living from sport. Theres 11,000 and 2 of the 11,000 men and 2 of the sponsorship dollar goes to women, compared to 98 goes to men. So we already have this really tiny piece of the cake anyway, you know, which were working on trying to grow. And this will not help it by turning around and saying that, you know, we value the feelings of males than we value the males more than we value the reality of people that are biologically sharon im biologically female. Sharon im not going to bother try not even going to bother to try and challenge on any of that. It all makes absolute sense, and bet, i bet there are and i bet, i bet there are people watching listening people watching and listening this are saying, this now who are saying, blooming on you, sharon blooming good on you, sharon davis. Put your over davis. You put your head over the parapet before the the parapet even before the brexit and youve brexit referendum and youve never campaigning. Never stopped campaigning. Youll beginning to win, but youre only just beginning to win . Well done you. Thank you for joining me here on gb news. Forjoining me here on gb news. I sense that sharons got a lot more work to do, but the mood music is changing. The pendulum is beginning to swing in a moment. We will look at real angerin moment. We will look at real anger in kent about buildings being repurposed for Asylum Seekers without any consultation with anybody whatsoever. Plus a look at the irish referendum. You havent heard about it. You will, in just a moment. The i asked you, do we have two tier policing . Some of your comments that have come in. Mike says at every pro palestinian march , we every pro palestinian march, we see two tier policing. The police attack, an arrest , a see two tier policing. The police attack, an arrest, a man decrying hamas and the destruction of his banner was shocking. Susan says the police are working against the majority of law abiding citizens. Something very frightening is going on. Do you know what, susan . Just over the weekend, just meeting people in the street , out shopping, going to street, out shopping, going to the petrol station, people are genuinely fearful for what is going on. Another viewer says , going on. Another viewer says, yes, we do have two tier policing and its wrong. And finally robbie says i believe there has been two tier policing for a long time. Look how many police were surrounded. The man who the placard. Meanwhile, who had the placard. Meanwhile, criminals is so criminals walk free. There is so much anger on this. But Chris Phillips made the point that the guy with the placard with the camera, he was kind of being provocative and looking for trouble, but the overreaction was truly astonishing. Now the frontline county in the war against illegal immigration is, of course , kent, because thats of course, kent, because thats where the boats land and social services in kent have been lumbered again and again with huge numbers of young people to look after. But Charlie Peters , look after. But Charlie Peters, gb news reporter, has something ihean gb news reporter, has something i hear. I think , as a story that i hear. I think, as a story that is going to make people in kent absolutely furious. Absolutely furious. Thats right. Nigel. In july, kent lost a High Court Battle along with the home office, which said that they were unable to house unaccompanied asylum seeking children in the hotels. They deemed that unlawful. So they deemed that unlawful. So as a consequence, they were forced to move to find new premises to house asylum seeking children. Throughout the county. So they quite covertly went about identifying nine sites to use. Theyve picked up two already. We dont know where they are, but from local viewers of gb news in kent, weve learned that one site in dartford called the limes. They started repurposing it in october without consulting the local community. Serious works went on for a couple of months before it was revealed that this site was being used for such a purpose. Weve also uncovered today that that site has a covenant placed upon it, a restrictive covenant from 1964 between the nhs and kent county council, ruling that they can only use that premises as an old persons home. However, theyve gone against that with this repurposing in order to develop it for a new purpose for the asylum seeking children. Now this is, of course, has been an extremely contentious issue for the government. For some time the government. For some time now, 118,000 people have crossed in the small boats since this started. Many more in lorries of course, as well, which often isnt included in that. And we mustnt forget that. And at the same 7000 same time, some 7000 people under made that crossing under 18 have made that crossing from july 2021 to december of last year at least claiming to be yes, indeed. And that is a big part of the problem. And some of some of the information ive received from the home office today is saying that they have robust checks in place, but they guarantee this they cant guarantee this process. Weve discussed process. And as weve discussed this channel today, this story on the channel today, many gotten many viewers have gotten in touch their own experiences touch with their own experiences a carers watch a lot of Foster Carers watch this channel and theyve said, you as process has you know, as this process has gone and the state has really gone up and the state has really struggled with the struggled to deal with the number of children claiming asylum the last few years, asylum over the last few years, theyve been left cases where theyve been left in cases where theyre that they theyre convinced that they actually adults in their actually had adults in their homes. Is all, of course, homes. This is all, of course, extremely precarious. And for extremely precarious. And for the community not be the local community not to be told whats going on in their area, what this significant building repurposed building is being repurposed for, thats generated a lot of concern the same time, kent concern at the same time, kent not saying where those other locations are , is also adding locations are, is also adding fuel to that fire. Kent is saying theyre doing that for safeguarding reasons. They want to protect the children theyre looking after after, as youll know, some 158 children are still missing after it was revealed last year that many children have been picked up from these hotels. But we also have learned that this Current Location in dartford, children are allowed to leave unsupervised. Theres a 10 pm. Curfew, 24 seven security. But if the gangs can target them at hotels , theres no reason to hotels, theres no reason to suggest the same wont go on again. Again. No, absolutely. Charlie peters, thank you. Now, adam cherry was out today with amnesty international. We heard a protest just outside parliament. They hired a rishi sunak lookalike to play the wheel of misfortune over the rwanda bill, which basically had all the problems they had with the policy. Adam saw this earlier on. Today. These people neven earlier on. Today. These people never, ever give up government and rishi sunak, the prime minister, should stop playing political games, dystopian horror games with peoples lives, with the rule of law and with human rights. So the right to asylum is something that anybody has a right to. If they are under the circumstances where they have to flee persecution, conflict, war, whatever it might that right whatever it might be. That right is universal. Its for anybody. It would happen to you and i if were in that situation happened in the uk. And that right needs to respected. At to be respected. And at the moment government is not moment the uk government is not respecting right to asylum. Moment the uk government is not resftrying right to asylum. Moment the uk government is not resftrying to right to asylum. Moment the uk government is not resftrying to undermine sylum. Moment the uk government is not resftrying to undermine that. |. Its trying to undermine that. Right. Theres failed policy, right. Theres a failed policy, theres policy, theres an immoral policy, a reckless policy which is not allowing to make those allowing people to make those claims and its got claims in the uk. And its got to stop. Never let be said that gb never let it be said that gb views not give you both views does not give you both sides the argument, because sides of the argument, because we do now. A referendum took place ireland couple of place in ireland a couple of days ago. Its had very little coverage uk, but coverage in the uk, but the government enormous government got the most enormous walloping. Murphy , author walloping. Gary murphy, author and professor of politics at dubun and professor of politics at dublin university, joins me dublin city university, joins me. Gary, weve seen almost nothing in british media about this. In short, there were two questions posed by the government, both questions, i guess that would have been seen as socially progressive. But the as socially progressive. But the irish have said no. Whats happened here . Yes, nigel, article 41 of the irish constitution is to do with the family. And there was two referendums, one on, what we call the family bill and one on care and the, the government, to quote leo varadkar or taoiseach, got a big wallop from the, from the electorate who voted. The the electorate who voted. The definition of the family, to, say, the family and other durable relationships and secondly was on care, was basically the idea of removing the word woman from the constitution and replacing it with a more substantive carers, clause. And both were decisively clause. And both were decisively rejected, won by two thirds and won by 74, the largest in the history of the irish state. So a pretty terrible day, really, for the, for the government, nigel. Yeah, because, i mean, looking at it, gary, over the last few years, the government have put many referendum questions to the irish people. The always the government nearly always does carry the day. A couple of hiccups with the european stuff, but thats going back a long time. Why now . What is this mood time. Why now . What is this mood of rebellion that seems to be brewing in ireland . Yeah, i think theres two things. As you said, we had a very successful the government had a very successful referendum on same sex marriage, which was carried by two thirds in 2015, and repealed our abortion and we repealed our abortion legislation, very restrictive legislation, very restrictive legislation in 2018, again on a 2 to 1, vote. And these these 2 to 1, vote. And these these are complex results. I think there is certainly, a large element of, social progressives who didnt think the government went far enough. And there is still a very significant, conservative view in the irish, in the irish populace, that removing the word modern in particular from the constitution was something they werent willing to do. Now, i think, as you will know more than anyone, a referendum were won by, by, by by campaigning. And the yes Vote Campaign was abysmal. To campaign was pretty abysmal. To be frank , the be perfectly frank, the government parties were half hearted at best, like , the hearted at best, like, the interesting thing was all the opposition parties also supported this referendum. But supported this referendum. But it was such a weak, a weak campaign. I mean, in order. Ive lost gary. But ill tell you what. That rebellion is in the air. It was in the air in portugal yesterday in a general election, in the air over the weekend, with the irish referendum, the european elections coming up in the first week of june this year are going to be really, really interesting. Now now, raw interesting. Now now, a raw photograph on mothers photograph put out on mothers day, supposed to tell day, which was supposed to tell us kate is really, really us that kate is really, really rather has now been rather well, has now been dropped being doctored. What dropped for being doctored. What on does it all mean . Im on earth does it all mean . Im very, very confused, but im sure royal biographer tom bower will have all the answers for us in just a moment. On Patrick Christys tonight, nine till 11 pm, lee anderson has defected from the tories to reform. I have a live sit down interview with the man of the moment. Has he betrayed his fellow tories . Should he call an immediate by election . How much has been paid . The bonkers has he been paid . The bonkers princess of Wales Photoshop scandal . Is it time for kate to tell all the kings former butler, grant harrold, has his say and are we heading towards islamic blasphemy laws in the uk . Dont miss Patrick Christys tonight nine till 11 pm. Be i intense speculation about the health, of course, of the princess of wales. Not been seen for a very long time. But yesterday, mothers day, a photograph of her with her three children. And suddenly its been withdrawn. Now im joined by tom bower, royal biographer on harry and meghan, king charles and a keen observer of these things. Keen observer of these things. Tom, i cannot remember ever an official photograph being withdrawn and being effectively declared null and void. And this all comes down to the doctoring of the picture. So what were they trying to do here . Well they trying to do here . Well they was was kate, unfortunately. Look, this is a woman whos very ill, whos suffered major surgery, needs a long time to recuperate, and still is still suffering. And shes under enormous pressure with all this, youve got to show yourself. Youve got to be. Where are you . As there are you something . Thats all the speculation on the internet as to what may be wrong. Exactly. And what she needed were wise men, both in Kensington Palace in Buckingham Palace, in downing street, to protect from all this protect her from all this harangue, all these ghouls, all these absolute mischief makers, and they failed her. So they said, look, lets have a photograph. So william takes a photograph. So william takes a photograph and the problem with william is he doesnt like taking advice at all. And when he does, its the wrong advice. He, like his father, likes the men in his entourage and none of them actually would have dared say, dont let kate start doctoring the pictures as she likes to do. So the answer would have been to say to pa or somebody send one of your photographers in and do a snap. Theyre just terrified that theyre not in control. And i dont blame them completely because theyre harangued all the under enormous the time. Theyre under enormous pressure, they all the time pressure, so they all the time feel control feel we want to control everything, but you cant control because control everything because you cant this cant think of anticipate this sort problem. And so she sort of problem. And so she comes up with this ridiculous thing. Like doctoring. I thing. Well, i like doctoring. I like playing with my adobe doesnt, doesnt, doesnt work in the ring. True. Well, it does ring true because so naive. Ring true because its so naive. I mean, shes a sick woman. It clearly. Do say . I want clearly. What do you say . I want the picture to look better when you say shes a sick woman. Sick do really think . How sick do we really think . How sick do we really think . Think she is seriously i think she is seriously sick. Shell recover. But she needs time. She needs a she needs time. She needs a she needs the pressure. Needs a gap from the pressure. And whats so unfair that and thats whats so unfair that in end, is a woman who in the end, this is a woman who really embodies the of really embodies the best of british principles. Shes a british principles. Shes a wonderful britain wonderful ambassador for britain and royal family and she and for the royal family and she just needed a break. And people arent willing to give her that break. And thats really awful. So williams judgement is williams judgement seriously in question williams judgement seriously in questiorhe should have protected yes, he should have protected her. Should no. And her. He should have said no. And her. He should have said no. And her her Senior Private her staff, her Senior Private secretary should have said no. The secretary should the cabinet secretary should know. And buckingham know. Said no and Buckingham Palace have said but palace should have said no. But the is that king charles the trouble is that king charles is and his private secretary is ill and his private secretary isnt either. And so isnt much good either. And so theyve led themselves into this ridiculous , which ridiculous pr catastrophe, which will blow over is not the end of the world, but will they learn a lesson from it . Thats the question. Well, they resolve it by now. Having a photograph taken by somebody else . I do think so. I think the best thing is that shes left to get to recover properly until sometime the sometime after easter. The photograph what did photograph was lovely. What did it the hand was in the it matter if the hand was in the wrong and but you know , wrong place . And but you know, the their rules the agencies have their rules and right to and theyre quite right to enforce them. It shouldnt have got that far. Thats the problem. It shows is this problem. What it shows is this is a storm a teacup. The real is a storm in a teacup. The real problem is something much worse could happen down the line. Could happen down the line. Whos going to make sure . Whos going to guard the royal family from making those mistakes much more serious . Well, thats very, well, thats obviously very, very important. Also, very important. And also, i mean, know, weve talked mean, you know, weve talked before about the, the slimmed down well, isnt down monarchy. Well, there isnt much at the moment really. There isnt. And thats the problem. And theyre constantly under from meghan and under pressure from meghan and harry, who are constantly sniping montecito sniping from montecito every week. Looking week. Theyre looking for a story just undermine their story just to undermine their relations here, and that puts even pressure on them. And even more pressure on them. And theres no doubt that king charles i thought today when he did commonwealth address, did his commonwealth address, which very, important , which was very, very important, he didnt look well at all. You know, truth hes not know, the truth is hes not taking natural herbs and things. Hes on the on the real hes clearly on the on the real hard stuff. So are you suggesting , tom so are you suggesting, tom bower, that our king is rejecting north medical advice and going for pills and potions . And going for pills and potions . Pills and potions . No, i dont think he is. I think the whole Natural Medicine thing, which he has advocated for years, coffee enemas to cure cancer put to the cancer he has put to the dustbin. Hes going for the real medicine now. I think he is. I think he is. And thats why he looked so peaky, to say the least. He tried his hardest. Least. And he tried his hardest. Today a lot of today i think theres a lot of sympathy him, rightly so. Sympathy for him, rightly so. But know, going through but you know, hes going through a tough time too. Mean, a very tough time too. I mean, hes 75. Hes facing mortality to his wife, is clearly tired as well from it all. You know, we make great demands on these people who are not elected. Theyre born into the job. We welcome the monarchy. We want a monarchy. But at the moment its just not going. They used share the they used to share the burden. Youve burden. But of course, youve got out of it. Harry got andrew out of it. Harry disappeared. The queen, as you say. There are limits to what we can. You know what she can do. The king ill Princess Anne in her early 70s. I mean, apart from the duke of edinburgh, who was 60 at the weekend, theres almost no one left, isnt there . Well, there are, there isnt. And the real problem is it is a crisis. Theres no doubt about it, were to seeing it, because were used to seeing the family spread across the royal family spread across the royal family spread across the kingdom day. And now the kingdom every day. And now were going to have to get used to something far, far, far more limited. And charities particularly rely they . Rely upon them, dont they . Charities, also housing charities, but also housing associations, hospitals, local government, the army, the military services, they all rely on the royal family to embody the best of british values. That is a problem now, and thats unfortunately hasnt been made better by whats happened last 24 hours. So the fiasco over the phone and lets call it the fiasco because thats what it is. Theyve got this completely wrong in every way. Will they learn lessons from it . Only if they change staff, if they can only get wise people back into the palaces who understand. But i mean, its understand. But i mean, its a top down problem. The problem is king charles does not take no for an answer. He only wants the yes men. Prince william, unfortunately, has followed his father. Otherwise he also. Father. Otherwise he also. I mean, hes too headstrong. He wants to create a different monarchy, so that leaves us. Well william. Not even sure he wants to be the head of the established church. Well, exactly. I mean, all these things that dribble out. He is a man who thinks he can modernise the monarchy. Dear. And exactly monarchy. Oh, dear. And exactly thatis monarchy. Oh, dear. And exactly that is great problem. That is a great problem. Sounds like an enormous it sounds like an enormous problem. Tom power as ever. Absolutely fascinating. Jacob, i wonder what you made of this extraordinary row over the photograph. Well id say one thing, and that is that i think the princess of wales is marvellous because shes taken the blame, and i bet it wasnt her. And i just think it has taken its noble when a principal takes the blame for something that was probably member of her probably done by a member of her staff, i think it shows you staff, and i think it shows you the of the princess of the quality of the princess of wales, she could easily have dumped a minion and dumped that on a minion and instead she said it was my fault. Im very sorry. And i think that shows the quality of the princess wales. The princess of wales. No, no. Well, shes a much loved figure and rightly so. And toms making point that toms making the point that shes really quite shes obviously really quite unwell. Going unwell. And its going to be a long time before shes back. Dont know, but i hope she i dont know, but i hope she makes a quick recovery. But i did think that was proper did think that that was proper nobility, noble in the nobility, genuinely noble in the right for a royal. Yeah, yeah. Take take the blame, how was the day the glorious the conservative party in somerset, the weather was particularly asking about westminster. Jacob. Oh, what a surprise. Well, look, im obviously sorry hes gone. I think lee and i agree on most things. I mean, you and i agree on most things, so we need to get the right back in same party. It was in the same party. It was a mistake to take the whip away from and obviously ill be from him and obviously ill be talking about this in my Programme Richard tice , programme with richard tice, coming talk about it too. Coming on to talk about it too. Do not think that , you do you not think that, you know, the words that anderson used he himself were used and he said himself were a bit clumsy, but its almost like a class prejudice thing, isnt it . Like, heres it . Its almost like, heres this class bloke. He this working class bloke. He used to be a miner. We sort of tolerate him, but. Oh, gosh, hes common and so awful. Hes so common and so awful. Well take the whip away. Thats terrible oh, thats a terrible thought, because actually, i think true. Lee represented think its true. Lee represented the coalition that boris put together 2019. Together in 2019. Im talking about the conservative party. Theyre not theyre arent theyre snobs, arent they . Hope not, i mean, they i hope not, i mean, they shouldnt be terrible mistake shouldnt be a terrible mistake because want to voters. Because we want to win voters. Yeah. And lee was a sort of poster boy. No, i know he was conservatism. Understand jacob well, i understand what jacob saying, i feel saying, folks. Yeah, i feel theres a degree of snobbery runs all this. Lets runs through all of this. Lets have at the weather with have a look at the weather with alex batty. Alex batty. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers. Sponsors of weather on gb news is. Weather on gb news is. Good evening. Heres your latest gb news, weather update brought to you by the met office. Eastern parts may have a touch of frost tonight, but further west it is going to turn wet and windy due to an area of low pressure associated low pressure and associated fronts that are pushing their way in from the atlantic. We do also have an front also have an occluded front affecting parts northwest affecting parts of northwest scotland that will scotland tonight. That will bnng scotland tonight. That will bring outbreaks of for bring some outbreaks of rain for a time, across northern a time, but its across Northern Ireland where were going to have the heavy rain and strong winds pushing rain winds pushing in, and that rain will reach far western will later reach far western parts scotland , england and parts of scotland, england and wales. Through the wales. As we go through the early tomorrow in the early hours of tomorrow in the east, where we see drier east, where we see some drier and perhaps even clearer weather, could see a touch of frost, even some patches frost, perhaps even some patches of tomorrow. Of fog. First thing tomorrow. But hazardous weather but the most hazardous weather will be the heavy rain and those strong, blustery winds across western parts. Initially, heaviest rain over the higher ground, especially the hills and mountains of north wales. And that continues its way that rain then continues its way eastwards and there will some eastwards and there will be some heavier bursts. But it does break up and ease a little bit, with some drier interludes developing time. Some developing for a time. Some strong, blustery to watch strong, blustery winds to watch out the edge of out for. Taking the edge of those temperatures, though they will touch higher than will be at a touch higher than they recently. More they have been recently. More wet as we go wet weather to come as we go into wednesday, band rain into wednesday, a band of rain pushing its south eastwards pushing its way south eastwards across northern across scotland, Northern Ireland england , ireland into northern england, two to south of this staying two to the south of this staying pretty cloudy, further pretty cloudy, brighter further north scotland, but north over much of scotland, but blustery, winds , risk of blustery, strong winds, risk of gales even severe gales gales or even severe gales towards north west more wet towards the north west more wet and windy weather to come as we go through the end of week, go through the end of the week, particularly towards the north west, but rather mild, a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello. Good evening. Its me, jacob rees mogg, on state of the nation. Tonight, lee anderson has officially defected to the reform party, with rumours of a further nine tory mps considering following in his footsteps. I will be imploring him to return to his home, his natural home, the bosom of the conservative party. Meanwhile, a new report is set to warn that de facto blasphemy laws are being enforced in the United Kingdom through means of threats and intimidation. But will the new definition of extremism be enough to quell the theocratic mob . Nearly 200 local councils have splashed your cash on diversity , inclusion and equity. Diversity, inclusion and equity. Dei or dei, despite the fact that the chancellor told them not to. Perhaps this is partially why so many are going bust. Plus, have you been lied to about net zero . A new film claims the green agenda is making britain cold and poor, and ill be speaking to the man behind the revelations. State of the nation starts now. Ill also be joined by malicious panel this evening. Former panel this evening. Former brexit party mep and current sister anunciata rees mogg , and sister anunciata rees mogg, and the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. As always , i want nicole turner. As always, i want to hear from you. Its a crucial part of the programme. Email me mailmogg gbnews. Com. But now its youve all been its what youve all been waiting of the day waiting for. The news of the day with sanchez. With tatiana sanchez. Jacob, thank you very much. Jacob, thank you very much. The top stories from the gb newsroom. Lee anderson says he would still have defected to the reform uk party, even if he hadnt reform uk party, even if he hadnt been suspended from the conservatives. He became the partys first mp this morning after he lost the tory whip for claiming that islamists had got control of the mayor of london as recently as january. Mr anderson said it was not a proper political party. He now says reform will allow him to