Addison. Thank you both. Good morning. Thank you both. Good morning. Its 931. Our top stories this houn its 931. Our top stories this hour. Israel is accusing hamas of exploiting civilians in gaza. Of exploiting civilians in gaza. The Israel Defence forces released aerial footage of several blasts at various compounds overnight. Several blasts at various compounds overnight. They say compounds overnight. They say rocket launchers have been placed next to civilian sites , placed next to civilian sites, including schools. A mosque and a United Nations building. A United Nations building. Meanwhile, in lebanon, israeli aircraft hit at least two hezbollah cells as they were planning to launch anti tank missiles and rockets. A second missiles and rockets. A second convoy carrying humanitarian aid entered gaza on sunday night. 14 trucks went through the rafah crossing. Despite the latest delivery , the United Nations delivery, the United Nations says the current volume of aid is just 4 of the usual daily average , which the home average, which the home secretary will challenge. The met Police Commissioner over the forces decision to not arrest pro Palestine Protesters calling for jihad against israel. This forjihad against israel. This after video emerged of a pro palestinian protester chanting the term at demonstrations over the weekend. Suella braverman will hold talks with sir mark rowley later after officers said no offences were identified. And scotlands first identified. And scotlands first minister is set to visit an Angus Community. Devastated by the storm babet floods. Humza the storm babet floods. Humza yousaf will meet people affected by the extreme weather in brecon after the river south esk burst its banks on friday. Two people have died in scotland , including have died in scotland, including wendy taylor, who was swept away in the water of lee in glen esk. You can get more on all of those stories on our website, gb news wgrz. Com. Now lets get back to tom and. Emily tom and. Emily a very good morning to you and welcome to britains newsroom here on gb news. Now lets get straight stuck in to our big top story this morning. The home secretary Suella Braverman, will question the metropolitan Police Commissioner, sir mark rowley , commissioner, sir mark rowley, about the forces response to incidents during a pro palestinian protest in london this weekend. London this weekend. Yes, shell challenge the officers decision to take no action when they heard a jihad chant, insisting that there can be no place for incitement to hatred or violence on uk streets. Well , joining us in the well, joining us in the studio now is the political commentator, piers pottinger. Commentator, piers pottinger. And this is a pretty stark contrast , and this is a pretty stark contrast, i suppose. On the one hand, a home secretary who is saying what we heard is not acceptable. And on the other acceptable. And on the other hand, the Metropolia Police that has almost been making excuses on social media, some might say for some of what we heard. For some of what we heard. Yes, i think the metropol police are in a bit of a quandary. They also at the quandary. They also at the weekend stopped a march of 30,000 people supporting israel in Golders Green , which was has in Golders Green, which was has understandably, really upset the jewish community. They cant be seen to be taking sides in this dreadful conflict. And for Suella Braverman is quite right to speak to sir mark rowley, who himself produced a report back in 19 sorry, in 2021. He actually produced it about deaung actually produced it about dealing with with extremism in demonstrations. And the problem demonstrations. And the problem is the law is i think its hard to asking the police constantly to asking the police constantly to interrupt at the finer points of law , particularly when it of law, particularly when it comes to verbal outbursts, is very , very tricky. The police very, very tricky. The police are actually trained to catch burglars, although they might have forgotten that. And getting them in is they are in a difficult position. I accept difficult position. I accept that. But i think Suella Braverman is right because there is a bit of a powder keg , not is a bit of a powder keg, not justin is a bit of a powder keg, not just in gaza but all over the world at the moment. Weve been world at the moment. Weve been seeing some terrible incidents in america, some terrible incidents in france and 1 or 2 incidents in france and 1 or 2 in this country already. And it in this country already. And it is a very frightened time for the world. This the guardian are reporting that the government was warned and this was in a report, rowley produced that current legislation contains gaps amounting to, in quotes, a gaping chasm allowing extremists to operate with impunity. Is this a problem with the law rather than the police . Well, as i think i intimated, there , i think the law isnt as there, i think the law isnt as clear as it could be. And were also asking the police to play semantics and define the use of language. And i mean, thats language. And i mean, thats a very tricky thing to do, particularly in the heat of the moment, although i would have thought shouting jihad was pretty provocative in the current climate. I mean, tom, it was quite remarkable that the met Police Issued a statement on twitter, on social media, saying, oh, jihad has has many meanings. It can be interpreted in different ways that weve got specialist officers looking into this. They they were interpreting different flags. Some there was a flag that could that a lot like that looked rather a lot like the of isis. The met the flag of isis. But the met police replied, saying, no, this is a separate subsect of radical islamist that wasnt islamist ideology that wasnt specifically isis or Something Else. It could have been interpreted in a different way. I wonder when it comes to looking at the specifics of whether or not this flag is one flag or another, whether jihad might be interpreted as a call for actual war or spiritual war or whatever it might be. Does that matter here when ultimately what people will interpret from these symbols is very different . Yes. I mean , youre right, yes. I mean, youre right, tom. Of course, its what people will interpret. And the fact will interpret. And the fact that we are discussing this semantic is, again , itjust semantic is, again, itjust plays into the hands of hamas. Plays into the hands of hamas. And hamas have got the world exactly where they want, not just israel boxed in in a terrible situation after the appalling atrocity 80s inflicted on them by the terrorists. But also theyve got the west not knowing which way to turn, who to support it, and looking very weak and feeble. Meanwhile, the weak and feeble. Meanwhile, the ukraine war continues. Putin and in china are rubbing their hands with glee because the west , im with glee because the west, im afraid to say, has never looked weaker in my lifetime than it is at the moment. Weaker in my lifetime than it is at the moment. Yeah, weaker in my lifetime than it is at the moment. Yeah, and its terrifying. And anything we can terrifying. And anything we can do to calm the situation down here, i think Suella Braverman is doing the right thing, but again, i go back to the point is that, you know, we shouldnt be arguing about the interpretation of words ads. We should be clear. These people were clearly advocating the end of israel in that demonstration. And clearly that demonstration. And clearly and that is wrong and that is illegal and shouldnt be allowed. I believe one of the men who was pictured waving one of these islamist flags , im not of these islamist flags, im not sure if it was hizb ut tahrir , sure if it was hizb ut tahrir, that Islamist Group or another. He has been arrested. People obviously , the Police Obviously obviously, the Police Obviously found out who he was. But tom sent me an article this morning andits sent me an article this morning and its called 12 things more arrested , bill, than calling for arrested, bill, than calling for jihad. And they include things jihad. And they include things like silent praying near an Abortion Clinic or misgendering someone in public calling someone in public calling someone a lesbian , burning a someone a lesbian, burning a quran and it goes on just highlighting perhaps how the police have not got this one right. Well, i mean, at the weekend we heard that the labour party are considering introducing legislation should they win the next election to give people two years in prison if they misgender someone as youve just mentioned there. I mean , what mentioned there. I mean, what kind of world do we live in . Lets get down to reality. People are being slaughtered in a terrible war that is expanding by the minute. That is the number one priority for the whole world at the moment. To sort out and pretending that the terrorist activities of hamas didnt happen , as some people didnt happen, as some people still do , is extraordinarily still do, is extraordinarily wrong and should be called out at every opportunity. I think sometimes protests like these can be very difficult for people who might be of a sort of free speech inclination to sort of square with their own ideology because clearly in the United States of america, you can say horrendous things on a on a protest. You can pick it the funeral of a soldier, and thats your First Amendment right. We dont have those same rights mirrored in the United Kingdom. I suppose the way that about it is the way that i think about it is looking at that list that emily read out there in the critic magazine today of these of these equivalent, perhaps offensive as people have been arrested for Malicious Communications of making poor taste jokes in whatsapp groups. And if thats the level of what the police are doing on the one hand, youd think that youd almost expect there to a sort of balance, a there to be a sort of balance, a concurrency with protests like this. Perhaps there hasnt been this. Perhaps there hasnt been a level Playing Field in how some of this law is applied. I think thats absolutely right. And i think for mark, sir mark rowley and metropolitan Police Commissioner, hes got a very difficult task to apply by the law across the board. And when youre in a situation as emotive as this one were in at the moment, its even harder for them. And, you know, as i say, them. And, you know, as i say, them. And, you know, as i say, the police are meant to be out there catching genuine criminals instead of which they are having to debate whether the jihad was actually in inciting violence or not. And i mean, this is a kind of judgement they shouldnt be asked to make. Well, this is , you know, the well, this is, you know, the concern thats deeper than this is why are there people on our streets doing this . Whats gone wrong in our society to allow this type of extremism . Because thats what it is more difficult when it comes to chants like from the river to the sea. I from the river to the sea. I mean, youve got a clearly mean, if youve got a clearly anti semitic placard or anti semitic like placard or youre chanting for jihad or youve got something calling on muslim armies to rise, that should be, i think, a little bit more clear cut in terms of the interpretation chants like from the river to the sea, when you have hundreds chanting that if not thousands, very difficult with that free speech, as tom was saying. And yet that is clearly a chant that is saying there is no space for the state of israel in that part of the middle east from from from the jordan to the mediterranean. It should only be palestine. Should not be palestine. There should not be a jewish state. People should reminded of people should be reminded of the or charter the hamas covenant or charter from 1988, which is still in existence, and its still their mantra. And if you read that, it is one prime objective of and thatis is one prime objective of and that is the annihilation of israel , the complete destruction israel, the complete destruction of israel and the emotive language. I mean, netanyahu not very popular in his own country. He himself a very controversial and he has had a very bad time, becoming back as Prime Minister and now , i mean, hes using the and now, i mean, hes using the most incredibly emotive language to about wiping out the lebanon and use showing such Strong Language that i mean, this this this is the most frightening worldwide situation, certainly in my lifetime. And certainly, as you alluded to earlier, the links between hamas , hezbollah and iran , the hamas, hezbollah and iran, the links between iran and russia in ukraine, and all tying back to china, too. Were seeing its often spoken about as if were heading towards a multipolar world, but perhaps perhaps were heading to a bipolar world of the free world. And the autocracies and putin is thinking is talking about getting the global south to support hamas as well. Support hamas as well. And which is, again , very and which is, again, very worrying. Thats mostly the african countries and asian countries. And theyre using countries. And theyre using this opportunity. They see the west as very weak at the moment. Weve got a very frail and very weak appearing us president who referred to hamas as the other team. Absolutely. Team. Absolutely. That was remarkable. That was remarkable. That was remarkable. Extraordinary and you also have a weak rishi sunak who looks as though he wont be in power in a years time. The west is in its most vulnerable position. And yet you have in the us presidency right now an administration that wants to pass a 100 billion of aid to israel and to ukraine to push back against this stuff. Perhaps the weaker point would be if the democrats lose the white house and no longer is billions in us aid funding, the efforts of the israelis and the ukrainians , israelis and the ukrainians, well, thats a real danger. I mean, the thought of trump coming back as president is terrifying, quite frankly. And terrifying, quite frankly. And this kind of worldwide situation, because you have no idea what he might do. But and of course, supporters of trump would say thats his advantage, that hes such a maverick and that hes such a maverick and that might scare people away. Would detractors some would detractors would say terrible say that thats a terrible position to be in, but also to say that this wouldnt be happening if trump was in power. Dont that but dont forget that the democrats less and all the democrats also less and all the sanctions on iran and freed up money for them from iraq, which enabled them to fund hamas. We enabled them to fund hamas. We are also , of course, beholden to are also, of course, beholden to qatar because qatar is such a big investor in this country. And we do so much business with not only qatar, but most of the arab states. And so why a lot of arab states. And so why a lot of people would wonder why the leader of a terrorist organisation is operating in plain sight in qatar, not even hidden. I mean, hes got a pubuc hidden. I mean, hes got a public office. He appears on television and we are regard qatar as an ally. Yet they are harbouring the leader of the most terrifying organisation in the world at the moment. The world at the moment. So just just finally on this, before we move to on matters a little closer to home, was it a good thing for rishi sunak to go across to the middle east to meet the Prime Minister of israel, the king of jordan , an israel, the king of jordan, an the of the palestinian the leader of the Palestinian Authority, the president of egypt . I mean , he seems to have egypt . I mean, he seems to have had of a successful egypt . I mean, he seems to have had of a success ful trip had more of a success ful trip in terms meetings than in terms of meetings than joe biden well, i think biden did. Yes well, i think partly because , as rishi sunak partly because, as rishi sunak is obviously younger and fitter and is able to do more meetings as biden has a very restricted schedule, no , normally he schedule, no, normally he doesnt put in the hours that many previous president s have done because he is so frail and he does say the wrong things and goes off script and people have noidea goes off script and people have no idea what hes saying. In fact, neither does he. I mean, its very worrying to have the leader of the western world, the leader of the western world, the commander in chief, being so frail and so quite frankly , frail and so quite frankly, really lacking in the strength to grasp this properly. And, of course, in the past, we would have had the great Henry Kissinger flying around sorting this out. But kissinger flying around sorting this out. But people kissinger flying around sorting this out. But people keep this out. But people keep saying, we should sort this out by you cant sort out by diplomacy. You cant sort out hamas by diplomacy. They dont want to be sorted out. They are theyre in a position they theyve planned for clearly for years. Theyve got to fantastic position from their point of view. And theyre going to get the most out of it unless. Yes. And im afraid i fear that this the escalation in violence which were seeing already today. And were seeing already today. And theres a press conference from theres a press conference from the Israeli Government today showing the horrors of hamas to bnng showing the horrors of hamas to bring the western journalists up to speed as to what actually happened, to remind them of the horrors, because they seem to have forgotten about that. But, have forgotten about that. But, i mean, when youre getting to down showing videos of the horrors of war to journalists , i horrors of war to journalists, i