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Uk, Manuel Hassassian. Hes been the he had been the representative of the Palestinian Authority for 15 years to this country. And with years to this country. And with this wednesday marking a year since, a year since the day rishi sunak became Prime Minister although to some it might feel a little bit longer than that. Who better to speak to than the man who literally wrote the book on Prime Ministers . Esteemed ministers . The esteemed political historian, sir Anthony Seldon . Well thats all to come in the show , but first lets in the show, but first lets have a look. Whats in the papers today. Joining me now is the spectator columnist and former member of the european parliament, patrick oflynn. Parliament, patrick oflynn. Lets have a little run through of the papers first. So patrick, youve picked out the sunday times front page as as perhaps the most predominant story this morning. Well, yes, in Old Fashioned newspaper man parlance , theyve newspaper man parlance, theyve got something of a marmalade dropper , something that kind of dropper, something that kind of arrests the attention of the average person over breakfast, i would suggest, which is hamas chief lives in British Council house. So sort of story thats really got everything and represents multiple failings by the british state. First of all, that this guy, Mohammed Kassim suella, got to britain then was able to get british citizenship, able to get british citizenship, able to get a Council House, even able to buy the Council House under the old discount scheme , saving over £100,000. Scheme, saving over £100,000. And to top it all off, the house hes got is smack in the middle of london borough of barnet which is the, the borough where 1 in 5 british jews lives. So 1 in 5 british jews lives. So its a really multiple shocking failure and underlines, i think , failure and underlines, i think, great public unease about our controls on exactly who comes to our country, whether they have our country, whether they have our countrys interests at heart, and also whether theyre able to access Public Resources and welfare resources. I know that , for instance, the that, for instance, the government minister, neil obrien recently put out a set. He said that 48 of the entire London Housing Council Housing stock is now occupied by foreign born tenants. Yes, which is born tenants. Yes, which is quite astonishing in general that i think that will cause immense resentment among british taxpayers. But for us actually to have an enemy of the west , to have an enemy of the west, arguably of britain itself, obviously, and somebody who was quite a senior player in hamas, this isnt just a foot soldier, as it were. This is someone whos represented the group in trips to see Vladimir Putin that sat on its so called polyp bureau. This is one of the main guys and to have him sort of sail through like this for a large number of years , make large number of years, make people think, you know, has this country either got a handle on its own security or any sense of decency about supporting its own citizens and keeping them safe. Citizens and keeping them safe. Its absolutely extraordinary because no doubt anyone sitting around the cabinet table would say this is a disgrace and shouldnt have happened. And of shouldnt have happened. And of course, to neil course, you point to neil obrien, the government minister, isnt it minister, saying, isnt it a disgrace that 48 of Council Housing is going to foreign born nationals, these are the nationals, yet these are the people in charge . Yes. Youd think youd think people in charge . 1theyoud think youd think people in charge . 1they wouldiink youd think people in charge . 1they would haveoud think people in charge . 1they would haveouhandle people in charge . 1they would haveou handle on that they would have a handle on this. Would. Theres this. You would. Theres something going wrong, isnt there, the political there, between the Political Leadership the country. Leadership of the country. Theres no transmission mechanism. Down to ideas and mechanism. Down to ideas and policies and priorities being actually driven through on the ground. You know , somethings ground. You know, somethings gone badly wrong. And whether the tories have just taken their eye off the ball, whether theres been too much High Pressure stuff going for on them to concentrate on boring things like delivery, well, like delivery, who knows . Well, lets move on now the front lets move on now to the front page the mail, which is page of the mail, which is talking these middle east talking about these middle east regional tensions , the potential regional tensions, the potential for spill over. For spill over. What do you make of this . What do you make of this . Well, they have a very, you know, alarming headlines that were setting israel for a war were setting up israel for a war against iran. And they have an interview with i think its nir barkat, the economy minister, where he is basically warning iran here, if you send hezbollah your proxy from lebanon into northern israel, spreading the war, then well strike back at you. So war, then well strike back at you. So its a sort of deterrent comment, but i think it does very much underline the potential of the whole conflict to go regional and underlines irans not very hidden primary role. You know, iran was looking at israel, normalising , having at israel, normalising, having relations with a lot of arab countries. And the next big one, countries. And the next big one, we were told, was saudi arabia. But by provoking a full on war between muslims and jews , iran between muslims and jews, iran has been able to scupper that because the feeling in the muslim world is currently a light against israel and has knocked that process back. So equally , the west is hoping that equally, the west is hoping that iran Public Opinion is beginning to peel away from that regime. So i think that that is the real geopolitical game thats afoot. Really fascinating context there, of course, for the Prime Ministers meetings , not just ministers meetings, not just with the leader of the Palestinian Authority and benjamin netanyahu, but also with Saudi Arabian leadership and with egyptian leadership. Clearly worried about the wider effects in the region. We will march on fonnard, though, because tensions also in britain on the telegraph front page today talking about how police were are criticised for allowing jihad chant at protest. Whats the whats the detail here . Well it is pretty much thought that, you know, the that his book tahnr you know, the that his book tahrir group for instance, is proscribed Organisation Hamas supporting hamas as a terrorist organisation should be against the law and doing it in terms of lets have a jihad to wipe out. Israel would seem to be against the uk law, but the metropolitan police has put out a very wishy washy statements about this and what it looks like is simply that they feel they dont. I think , have the they dont. I think, have the physical capacity to impose the law of the land in Central London on a saturday because there are so many in islamic radicals. You know, far left people supporting the palestinian cause in unqualified fashion. The really weve lost control of the streets and weve become a country where effectively hamas and its supporters can demonstrate at, for instance, next to the cenotaph with no comeback. And, cenotaph with no comeback. And, you know, and theres other stories as well. Theres an instance of a tube driver leading chants in favour of palestine over the tannoy. You palestine over the tannoy. You know, we talk about a refuge crisis. It seems to me now were getting to the point where a lot of jewish british citizens who live in london are feeling, you know, they may be leaving the leaving the capital. I would suggest its got to such either for another country or out into somewhere, which feels safer for them. And i think this is highly worrying for the government. The potential for a long ground war or a conflagration to feed into the really, really nasty clashes on the british streets , on the british streets, potential terror plots that will be clouding rishi sunak kind of horizon. And normally you expect a swing to the governing party. But i think keir starmer has has positioned labour very well on this issue. And if we have, for instance, people whove come over on the small boats who then get involved with Islamist Islamist activities, i think the buck stops there with the conservative party. Yeah. Really interesting how labours seem to have neutralised. Its in its potential pitfalls. There with a number of people quitting the labour party in protest of starmers stance on israel , i starmers stance on israel, i should think that keir starmer is probably quite happy that those quitting. Those people are quitting. Music as he is. Yes. Music to as he is. Yes. Music to as he is. We jump to tory should we jump across to tory to oil and the observer , which to oil and the observer, which has a story buried on page 15 about about the chancellor of the exchequer. Whats this about . Yes. So the Political Editor of the observer, toby helm, has got a story suggesting jeremy hunt will not fight the next general election. Now, you would general election. Now, you would expect that story to be on page 1 2, but its on page 15. Go 1 or 2, but its on page 15. Go into the detail. The sourcing is probably not the strongest that ive ever seen. And theres a theres a lot in the story which coincides with the liberal democrats having adopted their candidate and its slightly got the whiff for me of a classic lib dem dirty tricks campaign. Now thats not to say that jeremy hunt might not drop out at the 11th hour, but i think his story is coming about now. His story is coming about now. Just we have not long left, but we should reflect on englands greatest, perhaps best reflected on the front page of the sun today. Hey, sir, bobby the sun today. Hey, sir, bobby was such a hero to so many people. And this really does people. And this really does feel like the end of an era. Feel like the end of an era. It absolutely does. You know, in the 1960s, england was known around the world for beatles around the world for the beatles and charlton. Bobbys gone and bobby charlton. Bobbys gone and bobby charlton. Bobbys gone an incredibly modest, brilliant person who didnt see the need to go on about himself. You know , he wasnt covering himself in tattoos , was like modern tattoos, was like modern footballers. He wasnt kind of having scandals around wags. He was just a thoroughly decent human being and magnificent footballer. Well, no. Excellent words to end on there , i suppose. Patrick end on there, i suppose. Patrick oflynn, thank you so much for talking us through the papers this morning. But lets now cross to here from this weeks Peoples Panel. Olivia utley is in farnborough with the panel this week. And olivia, what questions have the panellists got for our guests today. Got for our guests today. Hello, tom. Yes, i am here in sunny, but rather chilly hampshire this morning and ive got a fantastic Peoples Panel whove got some really searching questions for the politicians who youll be interviewing later on. Were very lucky today to be hosted in the poppins cafe in the middle of farnborough. They do some great tea cakes. And im going to introduce you now to mcdermott , whos the manager of mcdermott, whos the manager of the cafe. And how do you feel the cafe. And how do you feel business is going slowing down . Everything will be changed has changed after corona. You know, rent bill for everything. Know, rent bill for everything. Now price up and i hope so. Now price up and i hope so. Well be better soon. But were feeling not good because people are salary. No inflation in are salary. No inflation in inflation. Yeah. Yeah i think that the problem with inflation is , is what youre inflation is, is what youre talking about and that seems to be causing big problems for talking about and that seems to be calbusiness problems for talking about and that seems to be calbusiness ownersrs for talking about and that seems to be calbusiness owners upor talking about and that seems to be calbusiness owners up and Small Business owners up and down country. Lets lets down the country. Lets lets hope the government can do something about it. But thank you so much for having us and your lovely cafe. Im here today your lovely cafe. Im here today with ian and sharon. Thank you with ian and sharon. Thank you so much forjoining us so early so much for joining us so early on a sunday morning. And ian , on a sunday morning. And ian, im going to start with you. Obviously, this has very obviously, this has been a very difficult sunak difficult week for rishi sunak with two crushing by election defeats. Is there anything that the conservatives could do at this stage to win your vote . Do this stage to win your vote . Do you think the general election is lost for them . I think the election i think the general election is for i think they is lost for them. I think they probably are in for a good trouncing. Frankly is there anything they could do . They could stop the boats , for one could stop the boats, for one thing. Like they said they would. Sign that. But theres no sign of that happening. So, no, i think happening. So, no, i think conservatives are finished. Theyve had their day. I think its a pretty message. Its a pretty stark message. There. No saving there. No saving the conservatives as ians conservatives as far as ians concerned. And sharon , what concerned. And sharon, what about you . Were talking about you . We were talking earlier that earlier and you said that that youre usually. Youre a swing voter usually. Have you decided what youre going to vote this time round . Going to vote this time round . I think im a bit on the edge at moment. Stick at the moment. If they stick to the of what they say the policies of what they say theyre going its like, theyre going to do, its like, stop theyre going to do, its like, stp everything stop the boats and everything else. Then it may may swing. I dont know. But at the moment im sort of on a cliff edge. Dont know. But at the moment im sort of on a cliff edge. But im sort of on a cliff edge. But im sort of on a cliff edge. But i think the best thing they should do is start listening to what the public want, what the people want, and perhaps the government should be doing some Peoples Panels rather like this. Ian , weve got the ian, weve got the immigration minister Robert Jenrick coming on the show a little bit later. Youve both mentioned stopping the boats as an area. Ask the immigration an area. Ask the immigration minister. Minister. Well , id minister. Well, id like minister. Well , id like to know what well, id like to know what his plans are. I just just oh, i think were having a few little problems there with the connection in farnborough. Connection in farnborough. But we did get the gist of much of what the Peoples Panel was saying, particularly on stopping the boats. Well be back with the Peoples Panel, of course, a little bit later in the programme. But thank you to olivia for talking us through that there. Lets turn now to Shaun Woodward , the former Shaun Woodward, the former Northern Ireland secretary under gordon brown for what has been an interest ing week. Shaun i know that you talk to senior figures in and around the Labour Party Leadership and the Labour Party Leadership and the labour party does seem to be rather aheadin party does seem to be rather ahead in the polls to extra ordinary by election wins in the last week. Is this a sign of things to come . Are we heading for a 1997 style labour landslide. Landslide. Pretty good question, tom. And good morning to you. I think Everybody Needs to remember that were probably a good year out from a general election happening, and ive been around for enough know that in for long enough to know that in a can change quite a year things can change quite dramatically. But i a year things can change quite dramatically. But i think what happened this week in those two by elections where a majority of 19,020 4000 were overturned , and 19,020 4000 were overturned, and is that probably we if were standing back and looking at things and saying whats likely to happen, i dont think this is any longer looking like the 1992 election when john major was up against neil kinnock, nobody quite knew who was going to win and john majorjust quite knew who was going to win and john major just managed to squeak back in and i actually ran that general Election Campaign lane for him. So i have campaign lane for him. So i have a pretty much a kind of good eye on that one. I think this is looking like 1997, something here is happening and listening to your Peoples Panel just then , people are giving up on the conservative party in government and listening to the gentleman who your reporter was interviewing in the cafe , his interviewing in the cafe, his remarks, he thought that the party was going to get trounced. Party was going to get trounced. And i have to say with huge respect to people who will be looking at this and trying to find a reason to justify how rishi can manage it, its looking very hard to me for him to win this election. I suppose it is a difficult position for the government to be in. But sir keir starmer has perhaps been a lucky general in the last two years. His opponents have run into big, big probl

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