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GBN Jacob July 3, 2024

Part of the programme. Email me mail. News. But now mail. Margaret gb news. But now its for of the its time for the news of the day with polly middlehurst. Jacob thank you and good evening to you. Well, the top story from the gp newsroom tonight is that the us president , joe biden, has been speaking in israel today hes announced an agreement to allow humanitarian aid to move from egyptin humanitarian aid to move from egypt in the south into gaza. He also confirmed 100 million worth of new us funding for that aid for gaza and for the west bank. President bidens visit to israel was meant to prevent an escalation of the conflict in the region. But after last nights bombing of the hospital in gaza, planned meetings with regional leaders have had to be cancelled. And later on in cancelled. And later on in a speech , he stressed the speech, he stressed the importance of living by the rule of law. Of law. You are a jewish state, but youre also a democracy. And youre also a democracy. And like the United States, you dont live by the rules of terrorist. You live by the rule terrorist. You live by the rule of law. For when conflicts of law. For when conflicts flare, you live by the law of wars. Whats sets us apart from the terrorists is we believe in the terrorists is we believe in the fundamental dignity of every human life. Israeli palestinian, arab , jew, muslim, christian, arab, jew, muslim, christian, everyone in it cant give up what makes you who you are. If what makes you who you are. If you give that up , then the you give that up, then the terrorists win and we can never let them win. Well let them win. Well well. The us president has also supported the Israeli Defence forces claims that the explosion at the hospital in gaza last night was caused by a failed rocket attack on israel by another terror Group Operating within gaza called the Palestinian Islamic jihad. Officials in gaza, however, are still blaming the israelis for the explosion, which they say killed nearly 500 people. Rishi sunak, speaking in clacton on sea earlier today, described the hospital explosion as shocking but appealed for calm heads as intelligence analysts establish exactly what happened. Now exactly what happened. Now hundreds of pro Palestine Protesters have gathered outside downing street tonight. Downing street tonight. Calling for justice. People are Holding Placards calling for an end to the massacre of civilians as the crowd also lit candles for the victims of last nights explosion at the hospital in gaza. Explosion at the hospital in gaza. Consumer news and milk, gaza. Consumer news and milk, cheese and egg prices fell last month, easing pressure at the supermarket tills. But fuel pnces supermarket tills. But fuel prices rose sharply. It comes as prices rose sharply. It comes as the uks overall inflation remained at 6. 7, despite expectations it would fall again. Thats according to the office for National Statistics. Oil prices are higher because of the war in ukraine and now events in israel and palestine have sparked further increase. Have sparked further increase. Liz and lastly, a red weather warning for rain has been issued by the met office for parts of scotland , it means very scotland, it means very dangerous weather is expected with extensive flooding likely to pose a risk to life. The weather warning runs from 6 pm. Tomorrow until noon on friday. Storm babette has already hit the republic of ireland with flooding. Weve seen in cork and along the devon coast. Its flooding. Weve seen in cork and along the devon coast. Its on its way in. This is gb news across the uk. On tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news channel. News channel. Id like to begin this monologue with an apology. Last night while we were discussing us president joe bidens visit to israel, one of the headlines that appears as im talking said Iranian Regime calls israeli strike on gaza hospital a war crime. Like strike on gaza hospital a war crime. Like many of the strike on gaza hospital a war crime. Like many of the worlds crime. Like many of the worlds media, we were too hasty in assuming that the tragic strike on the Al Ahli Hospital was conducted potentially by the israelis. But it appears that this is wrong. The israelis have this is wrong. The israelis have responded saying it wasnt them. Here was us president joe biden, with israeli Prime Minister commenting on the matter earlier today. Today. Israel as they respond to these attacks , it seems to me these attacks, it seems to me that they have to continue to ensure that you have what you need to defend yourselves and were going to make sure that occurs. As you know , i was occurs. As you know, i was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in gaza yesterday. And based on what ive seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team , not not you. Team, not not you. An idf spokesman , rear an idf spokesman, rear admiral Daniel Hajari , said admiral Daniel Hajari, said roughly 450 hamas rockets intended to strike israel have fallen short and landed in gaza. Fallen short and landed in gaza. Heres a clip posted by the Israeli Government from israeli news channel 12, which appears to prove the point. To prove the point. You can show that you can see the rockets. This is the left left red stamp fire over the hospital, which is the right. Hospital, which is the right. And you can see the blast. So thatis and you can see the blast. So that is proof of the fact that it came from the gaza strip. The scope appears to show rockets fired from gaza over the area of the Al Ahli Hospital moments before it exploded. Before it exploded. Gb news has not been able to verify the footage independently. The idf spokesman also read out a translated transcript of an intercepted call between hamas terrorists, in which they discussed the failed which fell short. Failed rocket which fell short. The transcript implied the rocket was fired by another palestinian terror group, islamic jihad. Listen to this clip, which again , weve been clip, which again, weve been unable to verify independently. Unable to verify independently. We im telling you, this is the first time weve seen a missile like this falling. And so thats why we are saying it belongs to the Palestinian Islamic jihad. And what they are saying it belongs to the Palestinian Islamic jihad. Its from us. It looks like it, in my view. View. All the evidence indicates that the israelis are telling the truth. Earlier in the day, this is what i wanted to believe. I thought and hoped that israel, who is responding to such a wicked terrorist attack, was likely to be telling the truth. And i wanted that to be true. But as the day gone on, the evidence for israeli the evidence for the israeli position become stronger and position has become stronger and stronger. Paul beevor, a British Defence analyst, told the times that extensive satellite and mobile phone images showed the rocket responsible for the explosion on was ground launched. Not air launched, and experts can spot differences which allow them to see which it was. He went to on say the Israeli Air Force has been using precision guided bombs. Not precision guided bombs. Not dumb, unguided bombs on gaza. And these weapons dont generate a plume and anyway, the rocket was going the wrong way. So the laws of physics are on the israeli side and hamish de Bretton Gordon, a british weapons expert, said the israeli denials were plausible given the lack of a deep crater at the site of the explosion in an al jazeera, which is not particularly friendly towards the israelis, actually had a live stream which indicated that this rocket came from gaza. This rocket came from gaza. Equally important, the Democratic State cannot afford to be caught out telling lies and historically , israel has and historically, israel has been willing to admit mistakes when it has made them. Of when it has made them. Of course, its important to carry out a proper investigation. And out a proper investigation. And whilst thats happening , this whilst thats happening, this has unfortunately allowed hamas a short term propaganda coup. A short term propaganda coup. But as the facts are being established and they do seem to be showing that israel is clearly telling the truth, it will be shown that its hamas who no concern for the who has no concern for the people that it seeks to represent. And of course, i want represent. And of course, i want to hear from you. Let me know your thoughts via mail morgue at gbnews. Com. Joining me now is former military former senior military Intelligence Officer and chemical weapons expert philip ingram. Phil thank you very much for joining me. What is your understanding of the Science Behind where for the attack would have come from . Well, theres a number of different bits of science that are behind it, that Israeli Intelligence have used in trying to provide evidence to us. And then President Biden will have had that science and a little bit more into him. So as hamish de Bretton Gordon mentioned , de Bretton Gordon mentioned, there was the site of where the missile would have landed and the lack of a crater thats there that that and the crater shape and the explosion from that and the damage that there was to the surrounding cars and the surrounding buildings give anidea the surrounding buildings give an idea as the sort of explosion and the sort of warhead that was there. And we saw that cars were burned and they werent blasted out of the place. And we look at the sort of munitions that the israelis use and their plus israelis use and their £500 plus bombs , they would have turned bombs, they would have turned these cars over. They would have these cars over. They would have demolished walls inside the buildings, put pockmarks buildings, not put pockmarks from shrapnel and bits and pieces there. Weve seen pieces in there. Weve seen the Video Evidence that youve youve in. But that youve brought in. But that video can see the Video Evidence, we can see the explosion happening now. A lot explosion happening now. A lot of intelligence assets will have sensors focussed in in the area because of everything thats going on. And a lot of those sensors are looking for intelligence that falls into the bracket of whats called measurement. And signature intelligence. And one of the things to look at is the thermal signature. Now we know astronomers, whenever they look out into space, can tell how stars are made up, what chemicals are made up from, whether they are burning lots of hydrogen, whether theyve got lots of carbon in them. That lots of carbon in them. That same science is used in analysing the flames that come out from an explosion. And you out from an explosion. And you can tell whether its a rocket fuel or whether its a high explosive. You can almost identify exactly what Weapon System thats come from. And system thats come from. And thats just the start of the Science Analysis of what theyve been doing. Been doing. And if its a rocket fuel, then that means that it has come from hamas, because thats not the been the way israel has been delivering its munitions. Are delivering its munitions. Are you aware or do you think that the Security Services already know pretty conclusively , but know pretty conclusively, but its a question of releasing the information in in a way that doesnt reveal some of their techniques partially the israeli briefing that there was earlier today give give away a lot of detail, including radar imagery and this this is the other important thing. Important thing. You dont rely on a Single Source piece of information. You bnng source piece of information. You bring lots of different bits of information together and they build a picture and you its build up a picture and you its very, very rare. You can say very, very rare. You can say 100, especially in the fog of war. And nobodys going to believe something thats coming from one side or the other unless you can get some form of independent investigation and verification. But thats highly unlikely. You cant get people into gaza. The evidence will have been tampered with. And if we look at the last time, independent investigations went independent investigations went in look at Bashar Al Assads in to look at Bashar Al Assads use weapons inside use of chemical weapons inside syria, it took months to get people in. It took months to get the reports out and people still questioned them. So its bringing all of those different snippets of information together and picture. And and building that picture. And then you get the likes of President Biden, who will get then you get the likes of pre own it biden, who will get then you get the likes of pre own independent will get then you get the likes of pre own independent intelligence his own independent intelligence organisations looking at similar for collection methods and similar information , but similar information, but whispering to him what. The whispering to him what. The final outcome is. But thank you very much. Philip adds even more credibility to it. Thats really helpful and informative. Well, im now live well, im now joined live from tel aviv by colonel richard kemp. Richard again, thank you for this is difficult for joining me this is difficult for joining me this is difficult for the Israeli Government, isnt because can put isnt it, because hamas can put out , which in old out a lie, which in the old cliche , has gone around the cliche, has gone around the world before. The truth has put its on . How does israel its boots on . How does israel catch up in the information battle that is going. On battle that is going. On well, israel is always in difficulty here because there is so much of the world and ranged against israel even in when you look at the horrific events of the weekend before last, even that didnt really deflect many of the Media Organisations. And of the Media Organisations. And i exclude gb news from this, but many of the uk and other world Media Organisations that are institutionally biased against israel as well as organisation ones like the eu and the un and many of our universities. Many of our universities. Theres an inbuilt bias against israel. And so israel is israel. And so israel is constantly fighting an anti israel Propaganda Campaign and it another thing that really complicates israels position is that hamas can say whatever they want. No one questions what they say. A lot of the time and they dont have to justify it. Theyre not theyre not accountable to anybody, whereas as the idf cant just come out with things. And therefore, when you have a situation like the tragedy last night, the idf will not immediately say, no, it wasnt us. They will research it. They will check it. I think it. They will check it. I think it took them two hours before they suggested it may not have been them. And then about 12 hours or something before they were able to say for sure. But they have to be certain of their facts before say facts before they can say anything. In my experience, anything. And in my experience, ive been out here for pretty much every one of the gaza conflicts and other conflicts as well. In experience the well. In my experience at the idf. You said this yourself, idf. And you said this yourself, jacob, the idf will never say we didnt do it if they know or think they did or arent sure they didnt it. They will whenever theres been tragic incidents involving the deaths of civilians, either accidental or deliberate, in some cases , or deliberate, in some cases, the idf will say they did it and explain why they did it. But but nevertheless, irrespective of that, you know, the truth is, as you say, has put his hat on or whatever. And theres no changing peoples minds. Theres absolutely no changing peoples minds. Whatever idf do, they minds. Whatever the idf do, they have fight battle. But have to fight this battle. But but believe theyre but they i dont believe theyre ever going to win this particular battle. And its nonetheless very important because listening to because actually listening to news outlets this morning , the news outlets this morning, the two sides were reported as if they were of equal, trustworthy ness, whereas actually theres such a strong vested interest in hamas , always blaming the hamas, always blaming the israelis and as you say, the idf is very careful to ensure its got its facts right because its democratically accountable. Its accountable to the people of israel, but also so it follows the rule of law. In follows the rule of law. In indeedit follows the rule of law. In indeed it does. And it follows its scrupulously and from my observations, ive been out here since last monday and from my observations and everything the idf has done been within the idf has done has been within the laws of Armed Conflict and they take great efforts to do that. Take great efforts to do that. But this conflict and but both in this conflict and previously , that doesnt mean previously, that doesnt mean civilians get civilians arent going to get killed because unfortunately, civilians do killed. And civilians do get killed. And its hamass interest that its in hamass interest that civilians get killed. Hamas want their civilians to get killed. And one of th

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