News with polly middlehurst. Nigel. Thank you. The top story today is that the home secretary Suella Braverman has warned of a future hurricane of mass migration into the uk. In her speech to the Tory Party Conference in manchester today, ms braverman says that as well as stopping Illegal Migrants from coming to the uk , shell from coming to the uk, shell also make sure that legal migration is held at reasonable levels. Gb news presenter nigel farage criticised the speech , farage criticised the speech, saying the government was out of touch with ordinary voters. Ms braverman though , says the braverman though, says the conservative party will do whatever it takes to deter the boats illegal migration act, which will come into force in the coming months , now means the coming months, now means that the only route to asylum in the uk is a legal route. The act means that those arriving illegally will be detained and removed back to their home country if possible , their home country if possible, or to a safe third country like rwanda. But all of this is rwanda. But all of this is ultimately a question of political will and be under no illusion we will do what ever it takes to stop the boats and deter bogus asylum seekers. Deter bogus asylum seekers. Well, there was a heckler that interrupted the home secretary today, but she said later on in the afternoon that he should be forgiven and let back into conference in these exclusive images obtained by gb news andrew boff, who was led out of the conference, is a conservative London Assembly member , had to leave the hall member, had to leave the hall after saying the home secretarys anti trans policies amounted to what he called homophobia. Homophobia. Now the Prime Minister has been telling gb news today hes the person to deliver change to britain. Rishi sunak defended his record on illegal migration, saying for the first time ever, the number of small boats crossing the English Channel from france is down by a fifth. He also reiterated his plan to halve inflation in and accused the labour leader of being light on policy. On policy. Youve got keir starmer , who youve got keir starmer, who you know, no one knows what he stands for, flip flops left and right. The country can see through that. Thats not leadership. What im offering is different. I know people want change and im the person to deliver it because were going to politics differently. To do politics differently. You saw youll see saw that on net zero. Youll see that week. Thats what you that this week. Thats what you get from conservative government well, expecting the well, were expecting the Prime Minister to confirm in his conservative party speech tomorrow in manchester exactly what his position is on the future of the northern section of the hs2 rail project. Of the hs2 rail project. Businesses are said to be demanding immediate clarity following reports. Rishi sunak may be planning to scrap the line from birmingham to manchester. Its understood the Prime Minister will be announcing spending on other Infrastructure Projects for the north in his forthcoming speech. And lastly, foreign prisons could be used to help combat the crisis of britains overcrowded jails. The government is considering renting prison cells overseas to tackle uk prison overcrowding. Eng, speaking at overcrowding. Eng, speaking at the Tory Party Conference, the justice secretary, alex chalk, proposed the move with spare male prisoner capacity in the uk, now. Down to 258 places with uk, now. Down to 258 places with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and now on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news this is britains news channel. Britains news channel. Well, it was a very highly anticipated speech other than rishis speech tomorrow in which we may or may not find out whats happening with hs2 , whats happening with hs2, something that has overhung this conference in the most extraordinary and i think terribly mismanaged way. But terribly mismanaged way. But Suella Braverman speech was heavily anticipated by the members stop the boats has become one of the absolutely key pledges from this government and Suella Braverman. And ive got to give her credit for one thing. Her public speaking style is much, much better than it used to be. She had a certain confidence on the stage this afternoon, and here was her really big line for illegal migration act, which will come into force in the coming months. Now means that the only route to asylum in the uk is a legal route. The act means that those arriving illegally will be detained and removed back to their home country if possible, or or to a safe third country like rwanda. But all of this is like rwanda. But all of this is ultimately a question of political will and be under no illusion that we will do whatever it takes to stop the boats and deter bogus asylum seekers. Seekers. So there we are. Be under no so there we are. Be under no illusion we will do whatever it takes. The trouble is, we heard that from priti patel , we heard that from priti patel, we heard it from boris johnson. Were it from boris johnson. Were heanng it from boris johnson. Were hearing it, of course , from hearing it, of course, from rishi sunak and now stated very clearly by Suella Braverman. But clearly by Suella Braverman. But was there actually any substance in the speech . Was there any real positive message . And the big one that everyone was waiting for was , of course, the waiting for was, of course, the echr. Yes. The european echr. Yes. The European Convention on human rights. Im joined by gb News Reporter charlie peters, who listened to the speech and has been discussing this with tory. Close insiders shortly aftennards. How insiders shortly aftennards. How did the faithful take this speech . Speech . Well, it was a very personal speech. I thought the opening, when she said, you know, the winds that took my family to britain, the migration have now the winds of migration have now become really tying become a hurricane. Really tying back story, she back to that personal story, she criticised as the labour party for saying that they were not doing enough to oppose the dereliction of National Sovereignty and the degradation of our borders, which was expected to criticise labour in that. It was more that way. It was more interesting in fact was that she went on to criticise own interesting in fact was that she went sayingiticise own interesting in fact was that she went saying that e own interesting in fact was that she went saying thate many in party, saying that too many in the conservatives squeamish the conservatives were squeamish when it to dealing with the when it came to dealing with the issue migration. Also issue of migration. She also said that many feared being smeared racist thats why smeared as racist and thats why they speak up. She said they didnt speak up. She said that she would do anything to deal with this problem and in that discussion on the legalistic she that legalistic issue, she said that the act, she the human rights act, she branded the criminal branded it as the criminal rights act, saying that it turbocharged issues whereby bogus rattle on bogus asylum claims rattle on for many years and that criminals were not able to be deported. But it wasnt just what she did speak about. As youve mentioned, it was what was omitted from the speech that was omitted from the speech that was to the european was my feeling to the European Convention human rights. Many convention of human rights. Many people to this people speaking to gb news this afternoon theyre afternoon saying that theyre expecting that expecting a comment on that after was hyped much in after it was hyped so much in the ahead of conference. The week ahead of conference. And course, weve heard about and of course, weve heard about this the cabinet this split in the cabinet between those who are in favour of leaving convention and of leaving the convention and those more shy, perhaps those who are more shy, perhaps even squeamish on the issue. Now, close to ms now, allies close to ms braverman told me this afternoon that obviously couldnt braverman told me this afternoon that a obviously couldnt braverman told me this afternoon that a speech usly couldnt braverman told me this afternoon that a speech on couldnt braverman told me this afternoon that a speech on thejldnt braverman told me this afternoon that a speech on the echr make a speech on the echr considering the current political storm, and they said that the comments about the human rights act were the next best thing. They ended the best thing. They ended the speech beyond migration. There was a reference to sexual was also a reference to sexual issues dealing issues and dealing with prisoners. And thats an prisoners. And thats an interesting speech. And many, many commentators will be interested deal with interested in how they deal with prisoners gender interested in how they deal with prichanging gender interested in how they deal with prichanging their gender interested in how they deal with prichanging their name gender interested in how they deal with prichanging their name to ender interested in how they deal with prichanging their name to escape restrictions. Well, certainly after scotland, that is a very real political issue. But this is the big one. I mean, frankly, what she said around the human rights act, its all a bit mealy mouthed, because the mouthed, isnt it . Because the human of course, human rights act, of course, was the echr into the incorporation of echr into british law. Before i go to sir ian and get his reaction to this, i was very struck today that she came across, frankly, as a toothless tory attack puppy. Its all well and good playing up the rhetoric, but weve heard that again and again and again. I didnt see a single solution in this speech to illegal immigration and she barely touched on it. She barely touched on it. She barely touched on it. She barely touched on legal immigration, where the population in this country is exploding despite the fact we have the brexit powers to control the numbers. I to control the numbers. I thought the whole thing was very poor , very disappointing. And it poor, very disappointing. And it plays in for me to a bigger theme. You see, i cant see theme. You see, i cant see a big message coming out of manchester to the country. I went out earlier and spoke to delegates to ask them what did they see as the big message. And they see as the big message. And with richard here, conservative party member, man that cares hugely , i think about the party. Hugely, i think about the party. Richard what is the big message out of this conference . Its i think its one of stability. It has been quite disappointing in some ways because i wanted a more radical agenda to outlined and well, agenda to be outlined and well, the h to the trains knocked me a little bit because it was going well and now its been cancelled. We dont know. So. We dont know. So. We dont know. So. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Were going to find out in richards speech tomorrow. I think the party is back. Actually, the party, rishi, is the stability. Rishi is sort of life goal. His 12 months of doing stability is over and now its the time to sort of get a bit of grit. Whats the big message . I whats the big message . I know, i know everybody struggles to answer that. Rishi sunak said it was a record attendance. It doesnt record attendance. It doesnt seem to be that busy. Well, ive seem to be that busy. Well, ive been to loads of great fringe meetings and cd0 meetings and yeah, so fantastic. So isnt this the point, the energy has not been in the hall. Its been on the fringe, isnt it . Yeah, definitely. Yeah yeah, definitely. Yeah conservatives are trying to tell they are put tell us that they are put together and theyve got somewhere going. Theyre going somewhere. Somewhere going. Theyre going somewinot. Somewhere going. Theyre going somewi not just somewhere going. Theyre going somewinot just here the theyre not just here for the short message is that the big message is that people the country want people in the country want clarity. They want answers , clarity. Theres an absence of it. Im joined by the member of for parliament chingford and woodford and, of course, Woodford Green and, of course, former the former leader of the conservative iain conservative party, sir iain duncan. Do you get the duncan smith. Do you get the point, ian . What i was asking the delegates i mean, maybe ive got this wrong. Maybe you can tell a big stand out tell me there is a big stand out message coming from this conference to the country. If so, please help me. Well, think if they get well, i think if they get this right, tomorrow should be the moment when he categorises what he plans to do and hopefully does it in a simple way. I mean, i would simply say from here until the next election , priority is to get election, priority is to get government off peoples backs on their side, give them the freedoms that are necessary, get rid of the woke nonsense, cut taxes, get this economy moving and get the boats stopped. Okay, now , were told one of okay, now, were told one of the big speeches will be about smoking that nobody born after 2009 will be able to buy a packet of cigarettes. So i could be, you know, in my mid 70s going into the local corner shop, having to produce id to prove i wasnt born before 2009. The point im making is you say get government off the backs of people. Weve had 13 years of government getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah, thats the whole point. Listen, put this in. Now, listen, we put this in context had huge context. Weve had the huge covid attack which cost us lots of money. We had to spend taxpayers money. Taxpayers money borrowing money. And crisis over and weve had this crisis over ukraine, the way, you ukraine, which, by the way, you see this, i think we have see from this, i think we have to support them. So that has added i added to the cost burden. I understand but understand all of that, but there are of things that we there are lots of things that we still do and spend money on in the of government still do and spend money on in the we of government still do and spend money on in the we dont of government still do and spend money on in the we dont need government still do and spend money on in the we dont need t01ernment still do and spend money on in the we dont need to do. Ment still do and spend money on in the we dont need to do. Yout that we dont need to do. You know, when i came in, we had to cut quite of the cost of cut quite a lot of the cost of that, did and i think that, and we did so. And i think the governments got to do that to for what we consider to make way for what we consider returning people their money because spend because we should only spend their when absolutely their money when we absolutely have so the key bit about have to. So the key bit about all of is and this where all of this is and this is where i think i believe that rishi sunak place sunak is in the right place himself instinctively , which is himself instinctively, which is by and large, he is somebody that get the costs that wants to get the costs down. He set himself a pledge to down. He set himself a pledge to do but he to do that. But he has to articulate that in a way that says, to you, so says, i pledge to you, okay, so we will reduce the burden of taxation before the next election. The chance off election. But the chance off your election. But the chance off you but hang on, election. But the chance off youbut hang on, ian. The but hang on, ian. The chancellor , in a 15 minute, chancellor, in a 15 minute, somewhat robotic, i thought, performance yesterday, very quick indeed. I mean, there was no hint of taxes being reduced. I dont the thing is, i dont think they want to make a pledge to cut taxes, but they know that they have to reduce the burden of taxation. Its a fact of life. Theres no escaping it. We have highest tax rate weve have the highest tax rate weve had the Second World War. Had since the Second World War. I all of that. I agree with all of that. Knows i agree with government knows i agree with all that. All of that. Got to message theyve got to get a message shaped around getting your theyve got to get a message shapecwhat1d getting your theyve got to get a message shapecwhat1d ghearing, your theyve got to get a message shapecwhat1d ghearing, what backs. What im hearing, what im manchester im hearing in manchester is suella you telling us Suella Braverman you telling us whats wrong . And we all know whats wrong. Yeah, but youve been in power for 13 years. I mean, do you agree with me that until rishis speech , as yet there is no big speech, as yet there is no big stand out message . Yeah, and thats the point about the message tomorrow. It is where we are going to be over the next ten, 12 months. So this speech the most important speech is the most important speech is the most important speech probably in speech he will make probably in his yeah because this his life. Yeah because this hinges where the government goes and i think what we have to understand also from this speech, if im going to be a little bit presumptive, is that i think need to he needs i think people need to he needs to let people in who is rishi sunak . I instinctively think that he is actually much more in the mould of reducing burdens, getting regulations down and governing less, but giving people more responsibility. I think instinctively all my conversations with him, thats where he is. He needs to let the where he is. He needs to let the pubuc where he is. He needs to let the public know. Public know. So that this is the guy thats going to try and make the woman said. Clarity. I agree. She wants clarity. I agree. She wants clarity. And this message of clarity. And this message of stability , i mean, it doesnt stability, i mean, it doesnt impress the general public at all. We need clarity now. Suella, who is very much cut in the cloth politically, you know, ardent brexiteer the free speech advocate, many things that i would find, you know, politically attractive about suella. And yet she did the same thing again today, didnt she . She told us what was wrong. People wont speak out because they being called racist. They fear being called racist. Weve been hearing this stuff they fear being called racist. We years. An hearing this stuff th