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Transcripts For GBN Breakfast 20240703

Civil war brewing . Our deputy Political Editor, tom hannood there for us. An audacious proposal here in manchester. Might the Prime Minister be taking the largest spender decision of his tenure in office, potentially tens of billions of pounds of Rail Infrastructure to hang in the balance, although at least one conservative mayor andy street, is not happy. Ill have the is not happy. Ill have the latest. Latest. The home secretary will also be taking to the podium today with everything from policing to migration on the agenda. And well be speaking to the justice secretary later this hour. Secretary later this hour. Weather forecast courtesy of alex deakin this morning. Alex deakin this morning. A bit of a wet start in places this morning, but most of us will have a bright and breezy day. Therell be some sunshine. There will also be a fair few showers. Join me later for a full forecast and sport courtesy of paul coyte. How about this , chelsea have how about this, chelsea have won a game of football. Is that. Is that strong . Is that too strong . Luke donald could stay on as ryder cup captain and also Manchester City lose a legend. They do. They do. They do indeed. And as always, you can join in any of our discussions, any of our debates, any of our opinions, any memories of francis lee. Any memories of francis lee. What about him and Norman Hunter . Oh isabel, one of the greatest tear ups. You would not you would not believe this. It you would not believe this. It was like a boxing match. And it was like a boxing match. And it was on right after it. It just went on, did it not . And on and arms were swinging at each other around pitch, punching , around the pitch, punching, kicking. It was a happy days of football, kicking. It was a happy days of foothats what it was. The happy thats what it was. The happy days football. You can have a days of football. You can have a good fight the pitch and good fight on the pitch and nobody play. Nobody can play. Youd still be called and youd still be called a legend. Absolutely. Absolutely. Views the gbnews. Com or gb views the gbnews. Com or you us at. Gb news. You can tweet us at. Gb news. Okay so the Health Secretary wants to push back against what he calls wokery in the National Health service in an interview for the telegraph , Steve Barclay for the telegraph, Steve Barclay revealed that he will announce in his speech at the conservative Party Conference later that transgender women will be banned from female wards. In the interview, he also said we need a common sense approach to sex and equality issues in the nhs thats led to womens rights being sidelined. Well lets go to tom hannood there at the conference for us this morning and hes been following events. Good morning, tom. Good morning, tom. Good morning, tom. Good morning. Yes, it seems like the Health Secretary is leaning into this refresh, this defeat stance with regard to the agenda that the government is pushing fonnard. No longer are we seeing a steady ship approach. And now we are seeing attack attack to being a change candidate for the next election. And weve already seen this with regards to rolling back some of those dates for net zero targets. Weve heard rumours about tax and spend and what might change before the next election. But now in the pages of the telegraph this morning , of the telegraph this morning, the Health Secretary announced thing what he will say in his speech with regard to transgender issues and indeed transgender issues and indeed transgender women specifically on female wards within the nhs. Critics of the Health Secretary, critics of the conservative party would say why is he donating quite so much time in his speech towards such a marginal issue . Of course, we dont know quite how many transgender women seek care on female wards within the nhs, but its hardly going to be a huge number. But of course what the government would say in response to that is that there are some huge concerns of some groups. Huge concerns of some groups. The group sex matters is quoted , of course the telegraph , of course by the telegraph this morning saying that this is timely and a rationalisation of policy. No doubt it will be a talking point throughout the day here and therell be very strong views on either side. But potentially this is what number 10 and indeed the Health Secretary wants, that these wedge issues, if you like , are wedge issues, if you like, are being found between the conservative party and the labour party , creating clear labour party, creating clear blue water between those two parties in what is likely to be the next 12 months of greater election campaigning. Certainly a unifying issue, you could argue, within the party, unlike perhaps tax or or how to achieve growth and look, it certainly feels as an observer from here in london, that the governments kind of lost control of the agenda of the narrative around the whole conference. And you look at hs2, i mean, this has been a huberi now for a couple of weeks and almost overshadowing the chancellors speech yesterday. And were now led to believe that it will be announced in the Prime Ministers speech tomorrow , tomorrow. So hes not going to announce anything today. Tom, you think . Anything today. Tom, you think . No , its very unlikely hell no, its very unlikely hell announce something today, although, to be honest, talking to people in and around the conservative party, seems conservative party, it seems that is a pretty dead set that this is a pretty dead set on decision despite that official line from number 10, which is that no decisions have been made. It does that been made. It does seem that behind scenes, the decision behind the scenes, the decision very much been made. But we very much has been made. But we are just waiting for the Prime Ministers big on ministers big speech on wednesday for that announcement to be made. So you get this to be made. So you get this peculiar dance of cabinet ministers and those in and around the government sort of raising an eyebrow , but saying raising an eyebrow, but saying no decisions have been taken. We need look at the cost benefit need to look at the cost benefit analysis of this project and it is fair to say that indeed the conservative party has been overseeing a spiralling of costs in this project. Originally proposed pected to be around £3,032 billion, now projected to be over £100 billion. Its clear to see why indeed the why the Prime Minister is looking at this extra leg. But of course it this extra leg. But of course it has not been without controversy. Lets have a little listen. I agree that weve been to london centric in the past, and thats why we have a Long Term Plan for levelling up. So with lots of different. So you think that hs2 should go to manchester then . Well, i think levelling up involves doing more things. Involves doing many more things. Your position on give us your position on that. It go to manchester . Well, i think we need make well, i think we need to make sure were getting absolute sure that were getting absolute value sure that were getting absolute val|come you must be able to come on. You must be able to have an opinion on whether it should go to manchester or not. I absolutely think most i absolutely think the most important thing is making sure that we take that when we level up, we take into account all of the things that to do. That we need to do. So weve shifted arts council funding, but should to funding, but should it go to Manchester Research and development well, were Development Funding . Well, were going have going to have to. Should it not . Should should it not . Will it should it every it have to look at every conceivable pound we spend conceivable pound that we spend on transport in order to make sure get value for sure that we get value for money . An answer to the money . Not an answer to the question whether you think it should manchester or an should go to manchester or an and there a bit of a flavour of what cabinet ministers have been struggling communicate over struggling to communicate over the days here in manchester. This peculiar Holding Pattern over or not a railway over whether or not a railway will be coming to this very city, perhaps not the best communication strategy for the party over these few days, but after all, we are currently sitting in the Manchester Convention complex, a disused Railway Station that was closed in the 1960s, perhaps that will be referenced by the Prime Minister tomorrow, but it does seem a peculiar decision that this decision that has already likely been taken has just been hanging over this conference for the last three days. Okay, tom, thank you very much. Well, well be keeping a close eye on all developments coming out of manchester. Indeed anyone who pops up, we may indeed talk to them throughout the course of morning. The course of the morning. And weve whos the weve got alex chalk, whos the justice secretary, coming on at around as well. Home around 6 45 as well. The home secretary will to the stage secretary will take to the stage today shes under mounting today as shes under mounting pressure to deal with some of the countrys biggest issues. And they are declining. And they are declining. Police numbers rising crime rates and the increasing numbers of illegal immigrants. So quite an in tray. Well , gb news an in tray. Well, gb news pip tomson has more. Home secretary Suella Braverman will speak at the conservative Party Conference later as the government tries to get to grips with some of the issues affecting the country. It issues affecting the country. It comes as record numbers of Police Officers quit the force a knife. Crime continues to rise as in the year to march , 4668 as in the year to march, 4668 officers left after a voluntary resignation in against a backdrop of 48,204 knife crime offences. Is thats a 5 increase on march last year. Immigration is another challenge. The government hopes to tackle as gb news data reveals that more than 25,000 migrants have crossed the engush migrants have crossed the English Channel so far this year. Something else on the home secretarys agenda is the rather contentious rwanda plan set for a battle at the Supreme Court next week. Speaking in next week. Speaking in washington, dc , Suella Braverman washington, dc, Suella Braverman argued that the 1951 Refugee Convention is too loose and hinted that the government could leave the echr for any attempt to reform. To reform. The Refugee Convention. Will see you smeared as anti refugee. Similar epithets are hurled at anyone who suggests reform of the echr or its court in strasbourg. I reject the notion that a country cannot be expected to respect human rights if it is not signed up to an International Human rights organisation. The home secretary is expected to use her speech in manchester to boost her popularity ratings among the more right wing arm of the party. Ahead of a general election. Many backbenchers fear they could lose so how are we looking at a future tory leader . One wouldnt bet against it. Pip tomson gb news is arguably the toughest job in the country. Look, were joined now by former Scotland Yard detective peter bleksley, regular on the programme. Good morning to you. Programme. Good morning to you. One of big issues that the one of the big issues that the home secretary really has to get a grip of is the crisis in policing. The Police Federation yesterday officer numbers yesterday saying officer numbers are dangerous levels. Now to are at dangerous levels. Now to the will die the stage where people will die as result. The stage where people will die as result. Right. As a result. Right. Well, we had pretty patel yesterday, former home secretary saying number is at record levels. Levels. Well quite frankly, record numbers of Police Officers are leaving the job because they are delusion eyed, disheartened, worn out and very they find that the entire experience of being in policing completely unsatisfied factory. And of course that already has spilt out onto the streets because lets just look at the last 3 or 4 days. For example , a 15 year 4 days. For example, a 15 Year Old Girl loses her life to knife crime in croydon, lives lost in halifax, leeds. And on sunday halifax, leeds. And on sunday night, another teenager in london butchered by savages. On our streets , crime is out of our streets, crime is out of control and knife crime is running rampant. But policing has lost its way and consequently we are all a bit more at risk. More at risk. And yet, peter, as i was saying, priti patel speaking yesterday and she was talking about high shoplifting should be prosecuted and taken more seriously and whatever. And you look at the litany of crimes that youve just recounted there and you think really where are we getting the numbers . There is not so many officers that they can afford to go and check whether someones stolen a mars bar or not. Yes, unfortunately , whats yes, unfortunately, whats happened to policing in the last couple of decades is that its become reactive rather than proactive. And what i mean by proactive. And what i mean by thatis proactive. And what i mean by that is that officers sit in their cars and travel from one 999 call to another , and they do 999 call to another, and they do not patrol the streets that has been surrendered some time ago. And consequently its the criminals who act with impunity , who run, who rule the roost on our streets, and consequently , our streets, and consequently, we have record numbers of shop workers being assaulted. 800 workers being assaulted. 800 a day people being murdered on our streets with knives and machetes in yet again, record numbers. So in yet again, record numbers. So despite what the politicians may espouse, the truth of the matter is we are far less safe than we used to be. The streets need to be made a hostile environment for criminals and thats what the public want. Thats what we need. And policing has, quite frankly, lost its way. And reached and needs to reconnect with the robert peel principles of 200 years ago. And the needs, wishes, desires of the Great British public. Yeah, but as you say, Violent Crime up prosecute is down. And i notice you say politicians. Do you accuse labour of the same things . I mean obviously its labour conference next week. Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper will be making a speech. Do you have any hope that things will get better there were to be get better if there were to be a Labour Government next year, the politicians politics politicians will play politics with and always do with police and they always do whatever flavour or whatever aspect the political spectrum aspect of the political spectrum they come from. They come from. And policing will always say we want independence from politics. We want operational control over what we do. But the control over what we do. But the bottom line is those Senior Officers who prowl the corridors officers who prowl the corridors of power, they love rubbing shoulders with politicians. And shoulders with politicians. And if you look at the Current Metropolitan Police commissioner when he took his short break away from policing and wrote a lamentable book, he had a former home secretary endorse it on the front cover , which just goes to front cover, which just goes to show what a ludicrous appointment he was because he didnt have any political impartiality. So the didnt have any political impartiality. So the police will impartiality. So the police will say one thing and do something completely different. That is the police leaders. The Senior Police leaders. Meanwhile the courageous men and women on front line get women on the front line get trampled on not only by the villains, but by managers who fail to support them and supervise them properly. They get disheartened. Theyre leaving in droves. Is leaving in droves. Britain is becoming increasingly unsafe. Is that something you agree with folks listening and watching at home . Vaiews gbnews. Uk or you can tweet at gb gb news as well. Peter, leave it there. Thank you very much indeed for your take on things, my friend. As the time creeps up to 615 and if you have just joined us a reminder that here on breakfast on gb news, you can take us with you wherever you go on tv, online and on your radio. And heres a reminder now of our top stories this morning. Trans women will be banned from hospital wards. One from female hospital wards. One of the proposals to be announced by the Health Secretary today in an aim to bring back as he puts it, common sense to the health service. Service. The Prime Minister reportedly intends to axe the multi billion pound hs2 northern leg to manchester, but with many of his own mps and indeed Party Grandees against the idea, could a tory civil war be brewing . And the justice secretary says life means life. He wants to impose tougher sentences to deal with the worst crimes. Well be asking about that live on the programme in half an hours on the programme in half an h

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