Group, conservative think tank benjamin lockney. They are benjamin lockney. They are obviously not to going get on, which should be fun. Remember we want to hear from you. The email remains the same male mug gbnews. Com. Get in touch, get yourself on the telly. But right now its time for the news of the day with polly middlehurst. It. It. Patrick thank you. Good evening to you. Will the top story from the newsroom tonight , norfolk and Suffolk Police have admitted that the personal information of over 1000 people, including victims of crime and witnesses , was mistakenly witnesses, was mistakenly released in response to freedom of information requests. Both forces have attributed the mistake to a technical issue in a joint statement, the forces said the data was hidden from anyone opening the files issued between april 2021 and march 20th, 22. The Prime Minister has said that with wages rising at their fastest level for 22 years, theres now light at the end of the tunnel. Figures from the office for National Statistics show wages rose by 7. 8 in the last quarter , with 7. 8 in the last quarter, with inflation standing at 7. 9. Rishi sunak has said bringing inflation down is still his governments key priority. See governments key priority. See any rise in rail fares in england next year will be below the rate of inflation. The department for transport says the increase will not be as high as the rise in the retail price index, which normally dictates all rail fares. The government all rail fares. The government has vowed to continue to protect rail passengers with the soaring cost of living. Any rises will be delayed until march next year rather than being brought forward in january. Now the home forward in january. Now the home office has exclusively revealed two gb news theres been a huge increase in undocumented migrant ice exploiting rules to work in the food delivery sector. It the food delivery sector. It says restaurants and Small Businesses offering Delivery Services are being urged now to carry out more detailed checks on their drivers to crack down on their drivers to crack down on scams. On their drivers to crack down on scams. Home on their drivers to crack down on scams. Home Office Officials on scams. Home Office Officials say working in the shadow economy, as its called, is a major pull factor for those embarking on often dangerous illegal journeys to the uk. Nhs illegal journeys to the uk. Nhs hospitals in england are to get a £250 million boost from the government. Thats to increase government. Thats to increase capacity as part of the Urgent Emergency Care recovery plan. The money is going to create 900 beds to relieve pressures and help cut waiting times by 30 nhs organisations will benefit from the investment. The majority of the investment. The majority of schemes will be completed by january to help deal with winter pressures. Now, today marks two pressures. Now, today marks two years since the taliban took control of afghanistan following the withdrawal of western allies. Well, people demonstrated outside parliament in london earlier on today in solidarity with afghans who oppose taliban rule. Aid organisation. Actions rule. Aid organisation. Actions have also urged government ministers not to abandon the afghan people. This is gb news afghan people. This is gb news across the uk on your tv, in your car, on your Digital Radio and now on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. This is britains news. Saying play gb news. This is britains news. Channel well, despite brexit, britain is still dealing with the mess the European Union created with open borders. This talk of the European Union created with open borders. This talk of us striking some kind of returns agreement with the eu is absolute rubbish. Its never to going happen. Its complete fantasy. The whole time were in the eu there were rules in place that supposed to that that were supposed to mean that people in the first safe people stayed in the first safe country that they arrived in. That happen. Country that they arrived in. Thatidea happen. Country that they arrived in. Thatidea that happen. Country that they arrived in. Thatidea that we happen. Country that they arrived in. Thatidea that we couldappen. Country that they arrived in. Thatidea that we could get� n. Country that they arrived in. Thatidea that we could get help the idea that we could get help from now to deal with the from the eu now to deal with the channel crisis is not channel migrant crisis is not even on the table. But for the first time, we are starting to see even the most ardent europhile souls waking up to the fact that they have created a complete and utter monster here and that there are huge problems associated with mass, uncontrolled illegal and legal immigration. A little earlier on ispoke immigration. A little earlier on i spoke to the deputy leader of the rejoin the eu party, Richard Morley from berlin. Obviously morley from berlin. Obviously now he let it slip that they are deaung now he let it slip that they are dealing with quotes. The consequences of immigration. And i thought, ive got a minute. I want to drill down on that. So we said that. He said that having immigrants all around you is causing problems. What problems . Problems . Well, its causing economic problems. Its causing in particular, housing problems. There isnt enough housing or doctors or schools to be able to facilitate a sudden intake of hundreds of thousands , probably hundreds of thousands, probably millions of immigrant s into a nafion millions of immigrant s into a nation. The system simply cant nation. The system simply cant cope with. You do it, then why did who do what . Why did the European Union let it happen . Why did the likes of Angela Merkel allow a Million People from the middle east just in if its caused all these problems that everyone was saying, is going to be the saying, this is going to be the problem, whats problem, this is whats happening it and now happening and you did it and now youre dealing with the consequences. To consequences. Now you want us to go consequences. Now you want us to 90 pay consequences. Now you want us to go pay to rebuild that go and pay to rebuild that countries stop more people coming. This not something which this is not something which can so easily controlled as can be so easily controlled as we see ourselves. We can see ourselves. We can see ourselves. Not if youve got well, no, not if youve got open borders, if youre open borders, not if youre willing welcome everybody in willing to welcome everybody in and make no provisions for it. Eu levies are now , as you can eu levies are now, as you can see, waking to the reality see, waking up to the reality that tens of millions of people are going to try to move to europe in the coming years. They are obviously going to try and wave many of them possible wave as many of them as possible through britain. The ship has through to britain. The ship has sailed, horse has bolted. Sailed, the horse has bolted. They vicious they created a vicious immigration death spiral that will change europe and will forever change europe and they stupid enough to let they were stupid enough to let that so whats the that happen. So whats the solution now . And i think this is the important bit. Will is the important bit. I will tell you will end up tell you what will end up happening britain and the eu happening are britain and the eu will billions will spend hundreds of billions of of taxpayers of pounds worth of taxpayers money african and middle money making african and middle Eastern Countries nicer and better in a completely futile attempt reduce the need for attempt to reduce the need for economic which which economic migration, which which they now admit it is by the way, economic migration. They will economic migration. They will also say that the Climate Crisis is causing lot of migration , is causing a lot of migration, so well to pay to solve so well have to pay to solve that as well. Of course we that as well. And of course we will also have to pay for the problem were already problem that were already facing so my words, facing here. So mark my words, the grand plan to save europe from a problem that the European Union created will to be bankrupt europeans in order to save the world. But, of course, i want to know your thoughts on that. Dont forget to let me know what you think. Mail mog at gbnews. Com. Before i go to my steam panel, one of which already has her in her already has her head in her hands, joining me now to discuss this former shadow home this is former shadow home secretary mep ann and secretary and former mep ann and widdecombe. Very, widdecombe. Ann. Thank you very, very are not going to very much. We are not going to get any of returns deal get any kind of returns deal from are we . Unless we from brussels, are we . Unless we have to pay through the nose for International Cooperation to make nicer. Make rubbish places nicer. Quite honestly , you well, quite honestly, you know, you could pay through the nose and you still wouldnt get a returns policy. And what really does me that really does upset me is that were going to pay £480 million to france. We have already paid them, how many them, goodness knows how many million. Have given us million. And they have given us absolutely nothing in return. Let us remember that when we have that horrible tragedy last week , the boat was still in week, the boat was still in french waters, comfortably in french waters, comfortably in french waters. And they went on escorting it towards british waters. Waters they have waters. Waters they have absolute no conscience on this issue. Theyve no interest in helping britain. And were on helping britain. And were on our own. And that is the first thing to face and give up. Expect long cooperation from france. Very nice if it comes, france. Very nice if it comes, but dont expect it, number one, to you. Youve got to deter people from coming here. At the moment they think that if they come to britain , then the come to britain, then the chances are very, very minimal that theyll ever be removed because we dont practise routine detention. Patrick we routine detention. Patrick we dont have National Identity cards. We do have a flourishing underground economy and its one of the easiest places in the west , if not the of the easiest places in the west, if not the easiest, in which to disappear. Now that is the pull factor that is going on. That is why people who are in a perfectly safe country like france are still trying to get here because they know they can stay here and they probably wouldnt be able to stay in france. So weve got to reverse that message. So i mean, rwanda will help, but rwanda is a long way from fruition. And in way from fruition. And in between weve got to do between that weve got to do what ive been calling for 20 years, which is automatic detention an of every single new Asylum Seeker in a secure Reception Centre, not a centre that they can just go out and Wander Around the town from in a secure Reception Centre and then the message goes out. You come to britain with a genuine claim you are of course welcome. You come here false or come here with a false or a flimsy claim, youll be detained, youll dealt with detained, youll be dealt with quickly, back. Quickly, youll be sent back. I was actually quite surprised to hear our friend who loves the European Union , based loves the European Union, based in berlin. Clearly earlier on saying that they now recognise that there are actually massive problems with mass immigration, but that they believe that the only way to solve that is to reduce the need for economic migration, which does mean us is trying to rebuild countries or just make those countries in africa or the middle east nicer , which we would all be paying for. They also hide behind the Climate Crisis, which again , we Climate Crisis, which again, we would be paying for. If would all be paying for. If youre to going bankrupt itself, trying to save itself from mass immigration, despite the fact that, the horse that, frankly, the horse has bolted europe do what bolted, well, let europe do what it will. We mustnt get sucked but we mustnt get sucked into that. The idea that we can deter migration by making other countries all nice and wonderful and democratic and free from corruption, frankly, is cloud cuckoo land. Even if we could do cuckoo land. Even if we could do it, it would take far too long. And i dont just mean a couple of decades, i mean many decades to achieve that. That is not the answer. That is some sort of fanciful notion of people who are bankrupt of every other idea. Now, either we take this seriously, forget europe, forget france, forget what theyre doing. We take responsibility doing. We take responsibility for ourselves. And thatll be the day when rishi sunak does that. And look, thank you very, very much. What a way to kick start the show. Its the wonderful Ann Widdecombe there. Now, i, of course, do have my fabulous panel with me. Ive got historian broadcaster tessa dunlop , and ive got the bow dunlop, and ive got the bow groups research for groups Research Fellow for migration,. Now, migration, benjamin locke. Now, now its worth noting that tesla has soldiered on in despite losing her voice. I will not make a joke about that. Right, make a joke about that. Right, tesla . You had your head in your hands whilst i was talking about this. Were going to end up being asked to be the worlds piggy being asked to be the worlds piggy bank to try to save ourselves a problem thats ourselves from a problem thats already existed. All right. Luckily, all right. Luckily, all right. Have a sore throat. I do have a sore throat. Lets see. Going to push lets see. Im going to push through. Is bad. Worse through. It is bad. Much worse than an hour ago. Than it was an hour ago. Worth of people listening on radio. Oh, dear. I do apologise. I want to shed, therefore just give to help with give one example to help with some light overheat, which i think us lots of heat think ann gave us lots of heat there introduction was there and your introduction was hot. Um, i want to hot. Thank you. Um, i want to give the example a country give the example of a country now in the eu, but whose diaspora was breaking diaspora was record breaking romania . One of the triggers for romania . One of the triggers for brexit was we were panicked about many romanians being about too many romanians being in this country. We proportionally Something Like 20 of their population lived abroad. They were flush, abroad. They were busted, flush, coming out of ceausescus romania after the revolution. I know because i know the country very well. They have subsequently had been billions of euros worth of investment in the current tranche 35 billion. Their economy is growing at 4. 8 and their migrants are returning on top of which they are pulling in over 100,000. For the first time ever, immigrants from all over the world. That is an example of what happens when youre build a country. You build back , do we not . Build back, do we not . But do we not have much more of a shared culture with romania than we do, say, vast parts of africa or indeed the middle east . Well, absolutely. The closer well, absolutely. The closer you are to somewhere, the more you are to somewhere, the more you have in terms of shared culture and shared history and religion and so religion and so on. And so forth. I do think theres forth. But i do think theres some to the idea that if some merit to the idea that if you invest countries you invest in certain countries or better places to or if theyre better places to live, fewer people will leave. But it wont resolve the issue. I fundamentally, long i mean, fundamentally, as long as wealthier any as britain is wealthier than any of countries, will of those countries, people will still here. And still want to come here. And until of places are until all of those places are made wealthy or more wealthy made as wealthy or more wealthy than britain, they wont want to. Continue come to to. Theyll continue to come to things terms of our investment. We such a hand, an we have had such a hand, an imprint on afghanistan. Lets not otherwise, just imprint on afghanistan. Lets no this otherwise, just imprint on afghanistan. Lets nothis century, erwise, just imprint on afghanistan. Lets nothis century, but se, just imprint on afghanistan. Lets nothis century, but for just imprint on afghanistan. Lets nothis century, but for 2 just imprint on afghanistan. Lets nothis century, but for 2 or ust in this century, but for 2 or 3 centuries. Its terrible. So you centuries. Its terrible. So you cant say, oh, were cant just say, oh, were romania , our near neighbours. Romania, our near neighbours. Actually, of our input actually, in terms of our input and money spent, were far and the money spent, were far closer to afghanistan. Its closer to afghanistan. Its worth noting that those who died in the channel at the weekend were from afghanistan. And i think things one is think one of the things one is we the Dublin Convention we left the Dublin Convention because brexit. You because of brexit. And if you ask a lot of people waiting to cross from calais, theyll say, well, country of entry was well, our country of entry was romania dont romania or hungary. We dont want there. And france want to stay there. And france wont us stay here because wont let us stay here because theyll send us back to romania or and so coming or hungry. And so were coming to wrong to say to britain. So its wrong to say that couldnt or didnt in that we couldnt or didnt in the able to send people the past be able to send people back could. Weve back because we could. Weve weakened ourselves. Back because we could. Weve wetwhati ourselves. Back because we could. Wev