Little bit this morning because i had a crown fall out last night and i cant get it repaired till thursday. So its really rubbing against my the tooth isnt so ive not had a lot of sleep. Its really rubbing against my gum because , rubbing against my gum because, you know, when they shave them down they do little sharp edges dont they. Because your tongue keep giving it a feel. Just cant keep away. That was one keep it away. That was the one handy bit advice from the handy bit of advice from the dentist night. Handy bit of advice from the derdont night. Handy bit of advice from the derdont let,ight. Handy bit of advice from the derdont let, dont let your dont let, dont let your tongue touch it. And thats all your tongue wants to do now. Thats tongue wants to thats all your tongue wants to do. Its just really rubbing do. But its just really rubbing against gums. Do. But its just really rubbing agasot gums. Do. But its just really rubbing agasot gioclock by so coffee oclock by wednesday, going wednesday, my cheeks are going to look like a gerbil. Its going to all out by. Its going to be all out by. Its going to be all out by. Just on the one side, honestly. Oh, im struggling today. Well send you sending you good vibes that you vibes and hoping that you recover quickly. Vibes and hoping that you rec and you had an eventful weekend, with skydiving and weekend, what with skydiving and all of it. All the rest of it. Went to of those indoor went to one of those indoor skied things. Actually skied diving things. I actually jumped plane. But you jumped out of a plane. But you know what . Really good fun. Know what . Its really good fun. Really, really good fun for september, it was a Christmas Present in laws for the present from the in laws for the whole family. Actually been and weve actually been putting so ive been putting it off. So ive been grilling this morning grilling stephen this morning on how how do you how does it work . How do you dismount . How do get how do dismount . How do you get how do you out the wind tunnel . You get out of the wind tunnel . Its really just yeah, no, its really just collapse the floor when collapse onto the floor when they turn. No, no, no, because you turn the wind off. You dont turn the wind off. Keep the on because theres keep the wind on because theres a big group of you and you all take turn. Okay so you take your turn. Okay so you literally to yourself literally have to pull yourself out door and then five out of the door and then five year because year old do that because therell be an instructor in therell be an instructor in there you. There with you. That sounds brilliant. That sounds brilliant. Your five year will your five year old will be held the time. Held on all the time. And this in any way and is this in any way connected to your coming connected to your crown coming out or you know what . Out or do you know what . Ive not thought that injury. Maybe it could have been blown out. Maybe it could have been blo maybe. I dont know. Maybe. I dont know. Maybe. I dont know. Theres a case in there for you. Literally, literally just fell out last night. Literally, literally just fellyou last night. Literally, literally just fellyou see night. Literally, literally just fellyou see nightmares like that. You see nightmares like that. You see nightmares like that. Was this crown . No. Oh, was this crown . Oh, no. Oh, anyway, and thatll anyway, this stuff. And thatll be to get fixed. Be another £500 to get fixed. Its not cheap or yeah. Its not cheap or Something Like dentist. That was open sunday though, open on a sunday though, which is quite something. Yes. I up yesterday. Yes. I rang up yesterday. Well onto the website well i went onto the website because thought ill them well i went onto the website b fantastic. It heaving. And it was heaving. And it was heaving. Well, not surprised. Theres demand, isnt there . There go. If youve there you go. If youve got a dentist open on a sunday, let me know. Believe it. Know. I couldnt believe it. Know what youve been let us know what youve been up to. How eventful your weekend has been. But in meantime, has been. But in the meantime, well with our well crack on today with our top yeah, the migrant crisis yeah, the migrant crisis could last another five years until brought under until its brought under control. According to a control. Thats according to a leaked document. The leaked government document. The memo servants memo shows that Civil Servants are accommodation are planning mass accommodation sites perhaps sites until 2028, making perhaps a mockery the governments a mockery of the governments pledge boats. Pledge to stop the boats. All this comes after well, all of this comes after six died trying to six migrants died trying to cross the channel after a dinghy sank weekend with sank over the weekend with witnesses claiming that they heard gunshots near dunkirk as migrants were clashing with people who continued people smugglers who continued to send more boats across just hours after the tragic incident i well, of course, all this means pressure is now growing on rishi sunak , because on top of rishi sunak, because on top of all of the 39 migrants who all of this, the 39 migrants who had gone on to the bibby stockholm barge were taken off it because of contaminated water supply concerns. Well, lets speak now to susan phoenix, who is a campaigner from say no to the barge and joins us from portland, where, as we know, the bibby stockholm barge is based in very good morning you. In a very good morning to you. And look, as weve just outlined, a fraught area outlined, what a fraught area this the office, for this is for the home office, for us taxpayers, for residents us taxpayers, for you residents down portland, as well, not down in portland, as well, not to mention the people to even mention the people trying to cross the channel. What are your feelings this morning . As know that the morning . As we know that the bibby remains on your bibby stockholm remains on your doorstep is empty at the doorstep but is empty at the moment . Moment . Well, i think were running out of adjectives, dont you . Out of adjectives, dont you . Farcical. Itsjust out of adjectives, dont you . Farcical. Its just been a disaster from the beginning , disaster from the beginning, hasnt it . Theres been poor planning and preparation and that , of course, planning and preparation and that, of course, leads to poor performance. There is a military term for that that im not allowed to say on here, but its got lots of ps in it. Its been a naive rush and also a hush because there playing with billions money. Billions of our money. But we dont know. There is no freedom in information this whole in information on this whole scheme so know a lot of scheme. So we know a lot of people have already got wealthy on at the bottom of it on this. And at the bottom of it all are those migrants all are those poor migrants being one cupboard out of being put in one cupboard out of another and people another cupboard, and the people of portland are very of portland who are very concerned, youre talking about a dentist on a sunday, we cant get a dentist for god knows how long. So, you know, its that kind of putting life into perspective. Its been there playing with money, our money like game of monopoly. And all like a game of monopoly. And all the while the local people are using banks and theyre using food banks and theyre being insulted by fact being insulted by the fact £3,000 is being used per head on that barge, which must be much more now because they werent able to fill it, because people said they were not coming on and then to find the government havent listened to their own advisers , the experts in the advisers, the experts in the field they knew or the experts knew that there was a problem with the water supply. They also knew they had someone with tb who a doctor out in the field had said its not suitable to move him and they were saying, oh, just get him on. So its playing with peoples lives at a its really getting a crisis time , isnt it . Time, isnt it . Well, i mean, the reality of this, susan , i mean, obviously this, susan, i mean, obviously youre looking at this one particular issue, but the reality is that the government is planning and you can understand why to have more things like this, more mass sites over the next five years, you know, there is no instant solution to this. Solution to this. Well, as i heard that five years, i thought its very unlikely ill still be around in five years. But these people will still be and people will still be suffering. There is an still be suffering. There is an instant thing that somebody could be doing. Somebody could be control, getting rid be taking control, getting rid of slopy shoulders. Its of their slopy shoulders. Its always everyone elses fault at the of this. Now we have the bottom of this. Now we have or the top, suppose we have or at the top, i suppose we have the office. We have the ctm the home office. We have the ctm who the boats. We have the who run the boats. We have the american company. Somebody in klang and we have local port and theyre all pushing these balls between each other and nobodys taking responsibility. Weve taking responsibility. Weve been discussing this locally. If they would use this 39, this group now that are off and process them, they at least deserve to be processed and use that as a test case for how theyre going to do the rest of theyre going to do the rest of the country. Surely we have the country. Surely we have enough expertise in our country and if not, we can train it up to make assessors who know how to make assessors who know how to do the job and make it work. Assess you stay, you go, you stay , you go. It doesnt sound stay, you go. It doesnt sound like rocket science. If someones doing the job and taking responsibility , does it . Taking responsibility, does it . It certainly doesnt sound like rocket science. There are huge problems , though, and huge problems, though, and i know are opposed to the know that you are opposed to the idea barges. Regardless of idea of barges. Regardless of whether theyre on your doorstep or yet ministers over or not. And yet ministers over the weekend saying to the weekend saying they want to see, to 5 more between see, what, 3 to 5 more between now next election. And now and the next election. And the party saying, well, the labour party saying, well, actually wouldnt go back on actually we wouldnt go back on anything in place anything thats already in place. So would be fine with. So they would be fine with these as well because all these barges as well because all of it saves money for the taxpayer. Theyre to taxpayer. So theyre here to stay theyre saving money stay and theyre saving money for taxpayer. So you see for the taxpayer. So do you see the advantages from that point of view . Of view . No, because the sums being done at the moment and im not very good with my numbers, but the sums being done showing it is not cheaper than using what theyre using at the moment. We dont think they should be using the hotels either. But it certainly not cheaper. At certainly is not cheaper. At 3000, a head is 2500 a head in hotels , seemingly with our 3000 hotels, seemingly with our 3000 is mounting because its a never ending patch up job. So somebody somewhere in those higher echelons are not doing their sums properly. Echelons are not doing their sums properly. I think theres a big question of pride and not wanting to go back on something at the expense, as ive said before, at the poor people out here the on the island, in here on the on the island, in the communities and those migrants who really dont know which end is up, they should be able to stop the migrants coming in and thats been thats been prophesied in many ways that that be done with some more that can be done with some more strength of character from whos making decisions. Its making the decisions. Its a difficult i know, but its difficult one, i know, but its not insurmountable and it has to stop. Well, but this is the issue, isnt it . Is difficult. I isnt it . It is difficult. I mean, you were saying a minute ago, its not rocket science. You know, you assess these people, say you you people, you say you go, you stay, then the problem stay, you go. Then the problem with is the ones you say with that is the ones you say you go to, then youve got the lawyers jumping board lawyers jumping on board and its proving that is proving a second obstacle. Do you think when we look, theres all this talk about the European Committee on human rights. Committee on human rights. Should we be looking at our membership of that . And as to whether actually we can create our own rules which would make it easier to deport people . It easier to deport people . Well, many other countries create their rules, dont they . I dont know why we seem to have become, instead of the wonderful nafion become, instead of the wonderful nation we were when i was a little girl three quarters of a century ago. We seem to become that. I wonder what we that. Oh, i wonder what maybe we should ask somebody. Well, maybe we upset anybody. We shouldnt upset anybody. Well, sometimes you do have to upset people, know, to do upset people, as we know, to do the thing for everyone. The right thing for everyone. And these must be at the and these guys must be at the end their tether, too, end of their tether, too, because dont know whats because they dont know whats happening to them. And ive said before, given this before, they were given this shiny well, you can shiny carrot of, well, you can stay youll have this stay here and youll have this wonderful of milk wonderful land of milk and honey, the minute, honey, and the next minute, well, well just stick you somewhere until we decide what were you. So were going to do with you. So all those decisions need to all of those decisions need to be reviewed and nothing be reviewed. And theres nothing wrong positions wrong with people in positions of saying, hey , weve got of power saying, hey, weve got this lets have total this wrong. Lets have a total rethink. They dont rethink. Not, oh, they dont like the bars, so lets get them a whole load more. Someone somewhere is protecting reputations. And thats all reputations. And thats all i can see at the moment. Nobody is saying we need to rethink it. Saying we need to rethink it. Okay. Susan phoenix from stop the barge or say no to the barge. Good to get your thoughts this morning. Thanks very much indeed for joining this morning. Thanks very much indeed forjoining us and at indeed for joining us and at home, you listening to home, if you are listening to this to let us know this and want to let us know your views on all of this, whether we should be leaving the echr, whether more safe echr, whether we need more safe and legal routes or indeed any, because, we saw these because, of course, we saw these drownings the weekend and drownings over the weekend and they all people they were all people fleeing from afghanistan, where, of course, are course, we know the taliban are running is the running riot there. What is the answer to this problem . And do answer to this problem . And do you agree with what susan was saying . Do we need to stop these barges . This is the thing is, she made some very reasonable points in a very reasonable way. Made some very reasonable points in a very reasonable way. And in a very reasonable way. And thats whats got to be listened to. Now, its not to say you have to agree with her. Its not to say the government or the labour party or anybody else has to agree with shes saying, to agree with what shes saying, but points. But theyre reasonable points. So its all got to be considered, hasnt it . It does seem theres of seem like theres a lack of joined up thinking in some of this. Thoughts this. Your thoughts on that would this morning. Now, consumers may be burdened extra if burdened with extra costs if progress towards net zero is halted. Prime minister rishi sunak has been warned by the association decentralised association for decentralised energy to go further and faster in achieving green targets. Well it follows a major backlash. That number ten has had from cross party mps, environmental groups and science artists. After confirming Government Support for 100 new licences for oil and gas extraction in the north sea. Extraction in the north sea. Lets talk to jeremy nicholson, whos Corporate Affairs officer at the alpha energy group. Good to see this morning. Should to see you this morning. Should we be continuing with the push towards net zero . We should certainly move in that direction, but im slightly concerned about this word faster. Why . Because the costs are mounting up for consumers. Its a good thing to have more clean energy and who would object to that . More clean that . But having more clean energy greater cost is a real energy at greater cost is a real a real issue for consumers at a time when the cost of living is a real, real concern. And its a concern for businesses that need to internationally to remain internationally competitive as well. Yet the advice to the and yet the advice to the Prime Minister is that halting this progress would actually be more and wouldnt more costly and you wouldnt disagree that. Disagree with that. Theres elements of i think theres elements of truth i do slightly truth in that. I do slightly agree there things we can agree. There are things we can be that going keep be doing that are going to keep costs consumers and costs down for consumers and theyre good for the environmental agenda too, such as on energy efficiency. As working on energy efficiency. Theres we can do theres a lot more we can do there, in domestic there, both in Domestic Properties businesses and properties and in businesses and also , you know, time of use also, you know, time of use tariffs for voluntarily reducing stress, voluntarily reducing demand at times when the prices are high and perhaps using more power when prices lower, power when the prices are lower, that can help lower costs for all consumers. That can help lower costs for all consumers. So those sorts of all consumers. So those sorts of things and the cheaper renewable opfions things and the cheaper renewable options certainly something options are certainly something we be pressing ahead we should be pressing ahead with. The problem it would with. Part the problem it would seem to me , with with the green seem to me, with with the green energy agenda, as were told, is we keep being told its cheaper , but then you have people who are on entirely Green Energy Companies whose bills arent any cheapen so the whole system doesnt seem to quite work indeed. And its not quite as as simple as some people might imagine. Certainly true imagine. Its certainly true that cost of generating from that the cost of generating from wind and solar can at times be cheaper than generating from gas. But of course, when the when the isnt blowing so hard the wind isnt blowing so hard and the sun isnt shining, and when the sun isnt shining, something to the gap. Something has to fill the gap. And whats called firm and we need whats called firm dispatch supply. We currently get gas to do that. And get from gas to do th