Im Dana Perino along with Judge Jeanine pirro, harold Ford Jr. , jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in new york city, and this is the five. So the democrats Assistant Coach fumbling the ball at the big vp debate. Senator j. D. Vance and governor Tim Walz striking a more civil tone as they tangled over the big issues facing the country, and it turns out shielding your candidate from Media Scrutiny does not the best strategy. Tim walz only doing half dozing interviews before the showdown, and it left him a little bit rusty when compared to the battletested vance, watch. A nearly 80yearold Donald Trump talking about Crowd Sizes is not what we need in this moment. Governor walz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos. Donald trump actually delivered some stability in the world and he did it by establishing Effece Deterrence peered people were afraid of stepping out of line. When you start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, Donald Trumps fickle leadership, Donald Trump is fickle. He blamed Donald Trump, who has been the Vice President last three and a half years and the answer is your running mate, not mine. I sat in the office, become friends with school shooters. You Cant Run Fire in a crowded theater. Fire in a crowded theater, you wanted to kick people off of facebook for saying toddlers senator, governor. Dana walz has faced credibility issues from stolen valor claims to embellishing his military record. At Last Night he stumbled over whether he was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protest, despite many outlets reporting that he wasnt. Can you explain that discrepancy . My community knows who i am. They saw where i was at. They, look, i will be the first to tell you, have poured my heart into my community. I have tried to do the best i can, but i have not been perfect, and i am a knucklehead, at times. Governor, just to followup on that, the question was, can you explain no, all i sit on this was as i got there that Summer And Misspoke on this, so i will just thats what ive said. So i was in Hong Kong and china during the democracy protests. Dana Governor Walz had an entire night to sleep on those comments. His Cleanup Job Wasnt that great. Look, i have my dates wrong. I was in Hong Kong and china in 1989. That that move from Hong Kong into china, it was profound, that was the summer of democracy. I said it is where i understood how Sacred Democracy was. Dana greg gutfeld, havent heard from you yet, and looking forward to it. Greg he was unprepared but why is that his fault . Democrats dont have to be prepared. They are usually operating under the assumption it is going to be an easier ride for them and if you have a republican, whats with all this stuff . The media tried to lower expectations for walz and they were right to do that now that we see how he did but the overplayed vances on likabilit. So you were expecting something that wasnt charming, smart, or steady. So the media actually helped vance by amplifying his on likability. The first time you saw vance was Last Night after a steady diet of media caricatures, what a Shock It must have been, he is not weird, he is not mean. This guy came out and just shows you how the media lies to you. The media portrays those outside their bubble falsely and then when you finally see the reality then your eyes are open to the things they say. Vance also did something good. He knew this wasnt a political Talk Show where you try to score points by making statements loudly that will end up being retweeted. He wasnt going for the dopamine, he was going for the depth, and that was his mission, and his mission show a contrast between steady and unsteady. He showed that a silencer is just as deadly as a shotgun. I think what is really cowardly, though, is the mistake democrats made by not choosing shapiro. They wanted a guy who wasnt a jew, and now you have a nonjew who is frantic, nervous, chaotic, liar, i think this was a real slap in the face to the harris campaign, no offense to her husband. [laughter] dana judge, i want to get to you. After you watch this, this is the liberal media who was forced to praise it j. D. Vance. Walz did seem unsteady and friendly what i saw and walz is somebody who has not faced questions on a national stage since he became the democratic nominee. In contrast, j. D. Vance was very smooth. I was getting text from democrats panicked, quite frankly, who were saying wow, he is really moderating himself on a lot of these issues, he is the most likable he has ever been. He seemed that many moments to be reasonable. Walz did not seem prepared for it. A lot about this Debate Tonight was weird. There were on comfortable, cringing moments. There were so many niceties on that stage tonight. Im kind of like, well, if you agree so much with j. D. Vance, why should they vote for you . Dana judge, take it away. Judge jeanine i got to tell you, it is clear that even they understood that j. D. Vance was solid, he was friendly, he was polite, he was disciplined, and he was the kind of guy that for the first time and by the way, 88 of the american people said that this was a debate that was civil and that they enjoyed, thats a wonderful thing. And thats because of j. D. Vance. When they tried to cut him off well talk about that later or when walz lied, he was polite. This is a guy who is going to reach across the aisle. This is a guy who will make not only a great Vice President but a great president One Day. And i dont want to get into a lot of the small stuff, but i got to tell you, i was exhausted watching walz. I mean, it was like this, that, eyes punched out, turn around, right down, it was almost like he was waiting for the fence to come in and arrest him or something. I was like exhausted. But j. D. Vance, he is so impressed me, and i think he impressed everybody. This is a guy who is going to try to solve problems. He didnt fight. He didnt play dirty. I just want to say one more thing about walz. You know, being a knucklehead doesnt excuse you from being a serial liar. Dana and i was saying, harold, Eddie Haskell from Leave It To Beaver was a knucklehead. Lying about things that are pretty basic and then not having the ability to land an answer, at the most important moment, show, i think, why the democrats were nervous Last Night. How do you feel today . Harold so good to be back with everybody. I think the analysis that has been around the table, i think it was a very civil debate, and i think Tim Walz contributed to the stability also, but i think the Round Robin we did with some of the other reporterd journalists, who i thought were honest, two or three of us are on Last Night, and i said there are five things i think you have to do when you are in a debate like this for president or Vice President. You have to be likable and optimistic, strength and capability, smart, relatable, and ultimate they show your president ial. J. D. Vance, you are right, judge, he was coming from a bit of a deficit because of the media characteristi characteriz. I didnt agree with him on a lot of things but i didnt think he was a bad guy, just a guy that i dont agree with on things. In terms of a person, a father, someone who is decent and they agreed on child care, they agreed on guns, even in some other areas involving foreign policy. But they disagreed on some other things. I thought it was substance. J. D. Was good on immigration and the border, good on the economy, serious questions about why isnt the Vice President doing this now, and i thought after they took the first commercial break, walz was good coming back, as he got his stride on abortion, he talked about health care, undo the affordable care, i thought j. D. Didnt the only time his substantive answers, they were to smooth as some of the others and finally, think the question asked about will you accept the outcome of the election, do you believe president from does . He didnt answer that. But you got to, as you look at this thing overall, then you got to say that he got the better of it. That being senator vance. Dana did you wear a tie like this for a special Occasi Occasion . Jesse special occasion tie. Dana It FeelsJudge Jeanine happy. Harold unlike you, its what you are saying. Jesse this tie reflects the mood of the country. We are pleasantly surprised. How many times can you say that after watching these debates . There was the j. D. Vance hoax that was destroyed Last Night. We were told that this guy was a sketch ball. And then many americans, especially women, so i j. D. Vance Last Night, and they thought, this seems like the kind of guy you can bring home to your parents. He is smooth, he is polished, he is reasonable, he is civil, he is smart, he is humble. Everything that they set about him was completely the opposite. So he had a great night. But trump had an even better night because trump chose him. And remember the first trump term, didnt pick the best people. A lot of people were now reassured that trump is picking the right people this time. And in a race that is this tight, you know how they say trump has 94 of republicans . Those 6 of republicans, you call them Nikki Haley people, never trumpers, chris christie, a love j. D. Vance Last Night. I had some a text from people like that saying, wow, j. D. Vance was amazing and that is the kind of presentation that they long for, that trump doesnt bring to the table, but that can bring independents, women with college degrees, and moderate republicans back, so he added to the ticket, and created momentum after the democrats have had a real bad last for five days. Walz seemed nice. But didnt have a story to tell. Just seemed discombobulated. And the media hated him because he wasnt nasty enough. Their whole goal is to make trump the devil. And you cant agree with the devil. And a lot of times they were nodding along and it was like watching to midwestern workingclass types of guys agree that the working classes kind of getting hosed by Corporate America and by the powers that be, and that was really nice to see. That scared the hell out of the left because they dont want to see agreement, they want to see blood. He made two huge mistakes, everybody knows what they are, im friends with the school shooter, and was in Hong Kong, i have no idea. Vance, 20 years younger than him. Does everybody know in the audience that greg and walz are the same age, look how good he looks. Now put vance On Walz on the stage. J. D. Vance, they say kamala is the next generation, i look at j. D. , he is the new generation. Going to look at this guy, who can convey the american first message with an agreeable tone. They say this is a guy for the future. Greg you are telling Me Walz is only 48 . Jesse so good, greg. Dana okay, coming up, some debate deja vu. Critics hitting the moderators for Fat Checking j. D. Vance but not Tim Walz. What do you talk about . The news . Sports . A little Family Gossip maybe . Nah, you dont do that. Right . Heres another topic for you as they get older their risk of getting really sick from a respiratory virus like flu, Covid19 Or Rsv goes up. A lot. So talk to them about getting this seasons vaccines. Because youve still got so much to talk about. Heres why you should switch fo to duckduckgo on all your Devie Duckduckgo comes with a builtn engine, like google, but its r and doesnt spy on your searchs and duckduckgo lets you browsel but it blocks cookies and creepy ads that follow youa and other companies. And theres no catch. Its fre. We make money from ads, but they dont follow you aroud join the millions of people taking back their privacy by downloading duckduckgo on all your devices today. Judge jeanine it was three on one again. J. D. Vance not only had to dismantle tim Walzs Web of lies, he also had to battle cbss biased moderators who slapped him with this factcheck on immigration. Just to clarify for our viewers, springfield, ohio, does have a large number of haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status. Margaret, but senator we have so much to get to. We are going to turn out to the economy, thank you. The rules were that you guys are not going to factcheck and since youre factchecking me, i think it is important to say what is actually going on. Thank you, senator, for describing the legal process, we have so much to get to, senator. We have so much since 1990. Thank you, gentlemen. That has not been on the books gentlemen, the Audience Cant hear you because your mics are cut. Judge jeanine but even with the referees trying to trip up vance, msnbcs Nicole Wallace things they didnt go far enough. Check out this meltdown. J. D. Vance said Donald Trump saved obamacare. Thats what he said. Its the audacity. I agree with you that we are near nine and No One knows how to cover the audacity. Stop. Are you fangie kidding me . They should have dropped the fbomb, right . Judge jeanine well well. All right, dana, they werent supposed to factcheck the candidates. They agreed they werent going to do it. But shocked, who did they factcheck . Just the republican. And where they even write about the factcheck . Dana Cvs Media relations made a big deal about all day making sure knowing they were not going to factcheck salute j. D. Vance calmly tries to explain and then not only they say they are not going to factcheck, but they do it, but then they get the factcheck wrong, and then they dont get vance an opportunity to explain, then they cut the mics and what ended up happening is you have one of the moderators then womans plane to j. D. Vance, which is really, like, that was when everyone in our room was like oh, my gosh, that is terrible because you just know that sound and that tone and it is not a good one when she said thank you for explaining the law, well, yeah, because somebody needed to. And Tim Walz could have gone after him on more about springfield, ohio, and he chose not to. I think what the people on the left arm out about is he decided not to do that. That is not j. D. Vances fault. Judge jeanine i think the interesting thing, harold, is Tim Walz tried to say that, you know, this law has been in effect for what did he say, 1990. Cbp has been in effect for a couple of months. Harold i dont disagree with what you guys are saying around the table. That happens out there. I dont know why they didnt let him just finish because they did outline the factchecking and if you thought it was wrong then you could have let Governor Walz make some comments. It is for on one here every day, right . Judge jeanine we love you, though, harold. Harold i love you, too. That doesnt mean it isnt for on one. I dont understand in these debates, politicians complaining. There are people who lost their homes, lost family members, we should be focused on them. Complaining on three on one, two on one, four on one, that j. D. Vance today very good job Last Night, he might have been aided by the fact that they went after him like they went after him. He did what President Trump did not do in the first debate. He assessed the field. He figured out what was going on, and he adjusted his cadence. He adjusted his substance. And he adjusted his temperament to the moment. And that is one of the reasons if not one of the prevailing reasons, the controlling reasons he did so well Last Night. I say to politicians all the time, stop complaining about yourself, stay focused on the people. And j. D. Did a good job of that Last Night peered. Judge jeanine and he did that exactly. Jesse, where was the factcheck when walz said Donald TrumpHasnt Paid Taxes in 15 years, when i think it was msnbc or the dems said he paid over A Million dollars, a couple years ago, in taxes. Jesse i believe hunter biden Hasnt Paid Taxes in 15 years. I understand, harold, you dont want to always be complaining harold i never complain. Jesse you shouldnt. Greg you are complainin