Jesse Hello, everybody. Im Jesse Watters on the Judge Jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. Its 5 00 in new york city, and this is The Five. Is kamala getting cocky . The vp must think she is untouchable after the liberal press praised her Debate Performance, so her team is ready to ditch the Training Wheels and let her fly solo. A new Harris Campaign Memo laying out how shell be doing more Media Interviews, including with unconventional outlets. And get her out on the campaign trail. The logic here is that the more kamala the better. What could go wrong . Donald trump intends to end the affordable care act. He has no plan to replace it. [laughter] he said he said [laughs] concepts of a plan. [laughs] jesse yikes be at harris is so confident that she crushed it in the debate, she wants another one. I believe we owe it to the voters to have another debate. I said it then. I say it now. Its time to turn the page. [cheers and applause] turn that page. Turn that page. Jesse but trump saying that aint happening. True thing this, kamala should focus on what she should have done during the last almost fouryear period appeared there will be no third debate. Meanwhile, Jim Clyburn is not a fan of kamala doing more Media Interviews and here is why. Oneonone, discussions with people in the media, will not necessarily connect to the voters. If you go on these one on ones, you drill down into questions until there is a word that is uttered that can be used in a negative way. Jesse dana, so trump says there will be no third debate appeared is that a Negotiating Tactic . Or will there be no third debate . Dana i mean, i dont i have to take him at his word when he says no third debate, i would say no third Debate P or maybe he will change his mind. I dont know. Jesse he has never changed his mind before. Dana on this one may be not be at for him, thats probably fine because all of the movement, democrats, they are enthusiastic, not, kamala curious, trump people are in it to win it in here for you. She is raising a ton of money. They are going to have a Cash Advantage going into this. And trump will keep doing interviews. Whereas she may or may not. So its not that people arent going to hear from trump, but maybe he doesnt want the split screen, may be just doesnt want to have to go through it again, or maybe he think hes won and hes fine. And maybe for the undecideds thats fine. It comes down to this really interesting Numbers Game of how many undecideds can you turn out in these states . With some of the rules that are different. In pennsylvania you dont have the kind of Voter Registration or Ballot Access that you had in 2020 do to the pandemic. Really pennsylvania is where this all comes down to accept she is expanding the map, may be, to places like North Carolina which means that got to spend more money and time there. I think the president , former president , would benefit from another debate, and even if she doesnt really want another debate, they are going to throw it in his face every single chance that they get now that says he doesnt want to have a debate because fillin the blank, he is scared. Jesse if they say that, you are scared, mr. President, all right, lets do it o on fox, and then see what kamala says. Dana great, well take it. Jesse and greg will moderate. Greg im not so sure. Trump should do the debate, but he should choose a truly objective and unconventional venue. No Legacy News networks. They are contaminated. They are infested p or they are rife with old friends, confidants, college paltz, former and future coworkers. You wont get that where trump goes P Or Lex friedman, you know, go on the all in podcast. Rogan, tim dillon. He would function great without a rigged system. There is no reason why kamala doesnt want she should want a debate. Shes got the formula and the fix is in. She knows what to do, flood the zone with the hoaxes knowing from the earlier debate she will not be factchecked and instead she will be protected. So trump did spends his time debunking all of these hoaxes at exasperated that the moderators let It Fly and she just smiles and wonders why this is so people kept saying this was so hard, this is really easy. She has like the drunk dude at the bar who can say what he wants because the dad owns the place and pays off the cops. You can understand why he wouldnt do it because why would i walk into this again . You know, i always thought this was really strange. By the way when i was watching her at these rallies come i was like, where have i seen this before . libsoftiktok. Remember every single libsoftiktok has these Wild Eyed woke weird ladies screaming about gender. It must appeal to somebody but the eyes and the craziness and stuff, no guy is going to vote for that. They are not going to do it. They dont want somebody in the White House that sounds like ms. Marianne. Jesse Judge Jeanine, shes going to be out there. You saw the new memos going out, doing interviews, hitting the campaign trail. They think more kamala the better. Do you think that is how the american people feel . Judge jeanine you know, look, and dana made reference to this, everything goes in Waves P or when someone to kill Donald Trump, Killed Biden and the debate, the way it was p here and then it goes down. She comes out and she is a Bait And Switch president ial candidate, and then it goes up, and then it comes down. Look, there are going to be waves continuously. She is saying she is going to do unconventional whatever. Areas. Does that mean podcast . Does that mean individuals . What does it mean . Just our friends . We dont know. She now has the confidence she didnt have for the last three and a half years, okay . The only thing this debate changed was the fact that people saw a different kamala from a kamala they saw from the last three and a half years, who was really a joke and just went from one Word Salad to the next. So you have to wonder of the 67 Million people who watched the debate, how many of them were undecided voters . And if they were undecided voters, did she answer enough questions to get them on her side . The first question put to her was the economy better than it was, she couldnt answer it, she did all of this aspirational stuff that i talked about yesterday. But heres the difference. Its kind of like you watch a football game. You go in and we talked about this i think the day of the debate. People watch debates to see how their person does. I am all in for trump, im all in for kamala. You dont switch because of the debate. You are basically like a football game. Im in for this team versus that team peered whether your Team Wins or loses, you are still with your team. And she didnt give anyone a reason to change their vote. And thats what i think is going to be her difficulty, and we dont see the numbers on wont see them for another week or so. In the end, it is so ironic for her to say, at this rally, we owe it to the voters to have another debate. This is a woman who wouldnt talk for 57 days, first interview was with cnn, the coach, the assistant coach, excuse me, and then it was three on one the other day, so, you know, i dont put a lot of faith in what she is going to do but what i do have faith is the american voters know what trump can do and they have seen what she wont to do. Jesse jessica, who do you think needs another debate more Trump Or Kamala . Jessica i think they both need another debate because the judge is right. No one who has a team is changing teams, but there are a couple hundred thousand people who have no team right now and they are the ones that are going to decide the election. 48 of them said they want to hear more from kamala, 18 said they want to hear more from trump. It is completely feasible that either one of these people could win the election on november 5th, or whenever it is officially called. So the premise of the segment, though, about whether she is getting too cocky, i dont know how anyone could listen to democrats on tv, any democrats you know in your life and not think we are anything but short of the fact that we are underdogs, working our butts off and knowing Donald Trump could be president again. Today was a good day, though, for kamala and for democrats. So the Fox News Power rankings came Outcome Headline Trump loses his edge. North carolina and georgia shifting from lean republican into a tossup. If so morning consult has her up five. Dana, to your point about the Cash Advantage, thats obviously huge but you know what is doing with our cash . We are running an election, there are a Ground Game and a number of articles citing people like ronna mcdaniel, Who Have Run campaigns before, saying Donald Trump is prepared for a midterm, not a general election. If you look at wisconsin alone, they must state, democrats have 48Field Offices in 43 counties. They have 350 staffers in pennsylvania alone. We are taking it much more seriously. We know the get out the Vote Effort is actually what wins elections, especially in a race that is a dead heat. Jesse all right, guys, we are going to have to get more jessica can we get a Ground Game . Jesse a lot more Field Offices in wisconsin. Jessica we need staffers. We need staffers. Judge jeanine [laughs] jesse i dont know if that is true or not. God come i hope it is not true. Dana it is. Jesse hillary had a huge Cash Advantage the last time and she got smoked. Dana also she didnt jessica she didnt get smoked. Jesse she got smoked. Dana wisconsin or michigan, we could use a visit and people in brooklyn were like we are fine peered we are fine. And then she lost. I think what jessica is saying is there not taking anything for granted and partly that is because the obama people are now back in charge. Judge jeanine oh, yeah. Jesse we saw it happen it 16 and i love to bring up that year because it was such a great year. Its been a while. And they underestimated Donald Trump, they didnt see it coming, the polling was all out of whack and then hillary took a nap on Election Night and woke up and she had lost three of the battlegrounds. Greg its interesting when you think about republicans dont have a choice with trump in terms of hiding or not hidi hiding. He cant be hidden. For the democratic party, they have an option of hiding there cacandidate, they will. I imagine it is what parents feel like when they have an ugly child. Clyburne is saying you never know what she is going to say, might say she has Vice President , dont want people reminded of that or she might say she prosecuted pot smokers while she smoked pop or she pushed for Sex Changes for inmates or Joe Biden is racist. All of these things she has said so the less she says the better. Its the Democrat Party is the only party where silence is golden. Inyourface, jessica. Go ahead, shake your head. Jessica because I Cant speak. Run, spot, run. Jesse run, spot, run. Greg seen but not heard beards be on the medias drunk on kamalas Postdebate Vibes and seriously underestimating a trump come back. If you have generalized myasthenia gravis, picture what life could look like with Vyvgart Hytrulo, a subcutaneous injection that takes about 30 to 90 seconds. For one thing, could it mean more time for you . Vyvgart hytrulo can improve daily abilities and reduce Muscle Weakness with a Treatment Plan thats personalized to you. 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After fawning over kamala after the debate come acting like the former president got hit with a knockout punch, check out this clowns reaction. What a smack down. Harris ran trump over with a truck. It was fun. Im still giddy thinking about it. She tore out your heart, showed it to you while it was still beating, then ate it on national television. [cheers and applause] and. And now she would like seconds. Judge jeanine but politico is trying to warn them about the danger of underestimating Donald Trump. And how the polls always underestimate the strength of Trumps Support. And while the elite pundits say kamala won the debate, Swing State voters in Michigan And Pennsylvania say it isnt enough. Watch this. I did vote for hillary and i cried when she did not win. Okay, then what happened . That i felt like he did a good job. I liked the fact that he was not a politician. I talked 20 voters, not one of them was undecided. Wow. Not one. Headlines come and go but let me tell you this support for former President Trump is real and resilient. I encounter that everywhere i went. And facts come to fact, my life was better than trump was in office, the economy was higher, inflation was lower. Judge jeanine all right, dana, did the media not learned from 2016 not to jump to conclusions when it comes to Donald Trump . Dana you mean when they had to go out, got assigned to go out in america and to actual reporting to find out wow, how did we miss this . They almost did it again in 2020. Yes, i think they do i am curious about one thing, jessica might know the answer to this, but the pollsters definitely underestimated him or didnt get enough people to actually be willing to answer the phone and to say their truth about who they were voting for so that happened in 2016. A little bit in 2020. I dont know that is happening now, it could be, i dont know if they factored that in so maybe it is more real now. Im not exactly sure. I spoke today to the republican Senate Candidate in wisconsin, eric hovde e. He believes the Kamala Harris Switcheroo with biden gave Kamala Harris a little bit of a bump in wisconsin for Just A Little Bit of time and it is not lasting. He really thinks they are underestimating not only trump but also his support, so im not exactly sure but i appreciated Major Garrett and other reporters who have gone outside the Beltway And Outside of the corridor from new york to washington, d. C. , and go out and actually talk to people. I think what he said is something really interesting. He said talked 20 people, they are not undecided. I dont think there are that many undecideds. I think there are people who are unwilling to state or maybe undecided on whether to vote, not who to vote for. Judge jeanine you know, jesse, isnt it interesting, talking about Major Garrett, how youve got the Fantasy Media like this is it, took his heart out in all this other stuff, and yet Major Garrett goes out and he talks to people and he says, you know,