Judge jeanine pirro, kennedy, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in new york city, and this is The Five. Kamala harris laying out another major economic policy as she described it. Our reaction to that in just a few moments, but first a Fox News alert. A School Shooting in georgia today. Four people are dead. Nine others are injured. There is one suspect in custody. And Steve Harrigan has been covering this story for us. We will get a quick update from him. Steve . Dana, we just watched a White Van Go by with two Police Escort cars. It might be a body inside their appeared as far as the numbers go, right now it stands at four people killed, nine injured enough to be hospitalized with Gunshot Wounds, 30 injured totally, some of those injured fleeing from a shooting. The shooter a 14yearold boy, a student here, is alive. Hes in custody. He surrendered immediately. We are Hearing Stories from those who went through the shooting, including a 12th Grader who tried to help his Math Teacher after watching him get shot. He did have a Gunshot Wound to the bottom of his chest. He was bleeding out. Some other kids got up and they dragged his body inside and closed the door. After they dragged him income i started barricading the door with all the things i could find. Me and some other kids lifted up his shirt, see where the Gunshot Wound was, maybe try and stop it, put some pressure on it. The bleeding would not stop so we kind of just stopped until the cops got there. He tried to help with the shirt off his back. The sheriff here says despite the tragedy and the trauma that everyone is feeling right now, that love will prevail in this community. Here is the sheriff. I never imagined that i would be speaking to the media. In my career, or some thing that happened today, the pure evil that happened today. My heart hurts for our community appeared but i want to make it very clear that hate will not pn this county. I want that to be very clear and known. Love will prevail over what happened today. I assure you of that. Weve been watching all afternoon as parents and children are reuniting outside of that school. Many of the parents follow the shooting live, texting back and forth with their children. Dana, Back To You. Dana Steve Harrigan, thank you, and more update as we get to this. Now back to this, Vice President Kamala Harris layout more economic plans after being panned for a plan to crack down on price gouging. Take a look there. My vision of an Opportunity Economy is one where everyone can compete and have a real chance to succeed. So i want to see 25 Million new Small Business Applications by The End of my first term. Part of my plan is we will expand the Tax Deduction for startups to 50,000. Cut the Red Tape that can make starting and growing a Small Business more difficult than it needs to be. Let us be clear. Billionaires and big corporations must pay their fair share in taxes. Dana harris trying to convince voters that she has a better Game Plan then trump when it comes to the economy. And some folks in the media are more than happy to try to hype up her record. Donald trump doesnt come close to the record of the bidenharris administration. So if you are a capitalist, if you believe in free markets, if you believe i in a strong stock market, a strong job market, a strong economy, really, the answer is pretty simple, you dont want Donald Trump back in the white house. Dana if you are a capitalist, greg, you should want Kamala Harris. Greg this was a guy who was just a month or so ago said Joe Biden was the best hes ever seen. Nothing that comes out of his mouth can be trusted. Trust every he has been wrong on every single thing. I think he might have a problem. You know whats interesting, is everybody is talking about Kamala Flipping and flopping at flipping. That Tax Deduction Things Ounce pretty good beaut of course if you are going to raise taxes while you do that you are just t you already stole and that money gets laundered through the government under the illusion that they give it Back To You when they actually took it from you to begin with, how many people are going to start up businesses because they cant because you have already overtaxed them . I, though, am glad when people change their minds, though, but youve got to show the work. Like why did you change your mind . I change my mind a lot. Turns out i was an emotional wreck over Donald Trump in 2015. Ask myself why . I was consumed by words and not deeds and i thought okay if i change my filter, look at the deeds, and that i realized okay, my mind got changed. But i showed you the work. But kamala never shows you the reason why she changes her mind. Other than laugh and, you assume, it is because an election. For example, when she flipped on joe, when she said joe was a racist in the debate and then all of a sudden he wasnt a racist, ask her why, it was a debate. And she laughed. That was her answer. So the assumption here, these flipflops are not sincere. She is going to flip this way, then shes going to flip back, and you are going to be stuck with the same old socialist, marxist, blah, blah, Blah Blah blah. By the way, have to point out, trump was on yesterday, his 35th Interview including the vance interviews while she did one in the same time frame. You have to compare that. Trump has nothing to hide. He will talk to everybody, anybody, i bet you dont even know that is, engineer, very smart guy. Hes going to tell you everything, answer every question pure and meanwhile you have this other person that has hidden. What does that tell you . Imagine if there were real estate agents. Jesse. Jesse imagining Greg Trump would be the guy who shows you every Nook And Cranny of the house from a Crawl Space to the Attic And Wouldnt shut up about it and go on for hours, want to see it again, he would tell you to come over again. Meanwhile, harris would be a one who has one single picture on a website, and then you call and she goes no, you are going to have to come and see it, going to have to just come and see it, and you show up and it is a dumpster with a mattress at a tarp over it. They dont want to do the work to show you what she would do as president because it doesnt exist. Dana there are so many examples of a purely tv vehicle mandate, she was pressed on that debt her team pressed on that by axios, they wouldnt answer she. So you dont really know, and the other thing is, kennedy, she said in her first economic speech she wanted to cut red Tape And Bureaucracy. So if you could give a 50,000 Tax Deduction for Small Business eventually over time but the regulations and the other things, its not like people feel that they are getting ahead. No, thats like a smoker wanting to get rid of cigarettes. Shes addicted to red Tape And Bureaucracy because to gregs point she has a big government democrat. When she says my values havent changed, you should believe her because her values were made plain in 2019 and 2020 when she was running for president. Shes in a very unique situation because she has to steal ideas from other people because she has not only running against herself and some of these very, very statements, i dont thinK She can answer for, especially , and if these moderators are honest and really press into some of her statements, i thinK She will crumble like she did against Tulsi Gabbard on the 2020 debate stage, but she is not only running against her own statements, she is running against her own record, and i dont know how she does a double divorce appeared wouldnt that make her a polygamist if she was married to the socialist ideas in 2019 and marriage to the Bidenharris Agenda talking about how Great Bidenomics is. She is going to have to throw him under the Bus And Divorce or so from that bad track record, as well, and i dont thinK She can do it, and if you ask her, you know, you ask her the why, she cannot answer, the what, she doesnt know that either, even though she is cribbing someone elses economic policy. If you ask her who she is come i think that might be the toughest question of all. Dana do you think, judge, part of the idea for her on this Ramp Up to the debate is to get out there, talk about the economy a little bit so she doesnt have to explain it more, she can just say ive already talked about that . Judge jeanine she can certainly say that but i doubt Donald Trump is going to let her get away with that at the debate. I know we are going to talk about the debate in the next couple of blocks but what i think is interesting is if she wants to increase the Tax Deductions tenfold from 5,000 to 50,000, which is going to cost us 20 Billion in the next decade, you have to say to yourself, well, once the government starts getting involved in your business, does dei apply . How about the epa . Do we have to be more environmentally friendly . Think about california. They raised the price of the minimum wage that then caused the businesses to go out of business because they couldnt afford to pay staff. So a lot of these ideas sound great but even the idea, she says we brought back jobs, and then we found out no, there were 818,000 jobs that were lied about that you didnt bring ba back. She also talked about the fact that in addition to the record job growth, so many people getting new jobs, it is all the illegals getting the new jobs. So once you peel back the layer of the onion and you realize, he isnt as indepth and sophisticated as we think. One more thing, Consumer Prices have gone up 21 since Biden And Harris have been in office. Why isnt she talking about that . Why hasnt she been doing anything about it . This whole idea she wants to cut Red Tape why didnt she stop the regulatory onslaught . Why dont you take care of Energy Bills that are making all of us, making it incredibly hard to live for all families feared and finally, something like 66 of americans live paycheck to paycheck. Nobody has 30,000 or 40,000 to start a new business and these 25 Million new businesses that she is dreaming about. Because the average cost is 30,000, 40,000. She is talking the talk. She doesnt know how to walk the Walk Beards before to start a business you really want to certainty in one of the things would be in the Tax Code the Trump Tax cuts that are due for extension, and she wants to get rid of them. That is actually raising taxes on people. She will say it was for the rich but it really wasnt. Jesse she has never even started a business. She just worked at mcdonalds beards before did she . Jesse thats right, she never worked at mcdonalds. Excited for the debate, see these two go at it, kamala chickened out, the Fox News Debate was supposed to be to fight, we will get the Hannity Town Hall instead. Makes the point about buying a house, she is asking us to buy a House Sight unseen. Would you buy a House Site unseen . No, youve got to look around and check it out. Shes asking us just trust her, we cant. This position she is taking on Regulation And Tax cuts, she didnt create that. She doesnt even know what this stuff means. Do you think if he could ask Kamala Harris to explain what a Small Business start up Tax Deduction means she could explain it . No. Kamala, what exactly are the regulations you are going to be cutting for Small Business . She cant answer. Dana, she is The One that put the regulations on with covid. If you install an electric car charging station, you have to hire a Pacific Islander under the Kamala Harris, Joe Biden Plan P or all of this stuff, why didnt she do Tax Cuts for Small Businesses the last four years . Huh . She has been in power. Why doesnt she cut taxes on tips now . She is in power now. Why doesnt she do it . She goes to the Debate And Trump says fine, agree with me, great, youre basically running on i was right about everything. That is what your campaign is beards trump was right. I was wrong. I would love to compare the record. You are right come all of these jobs that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden say they have created, 10 Million were bounce back jobs from the pandemic and the rest of them trump created more if you put it squared off, labor participation rate, bigger under trump, income bigger under trump, i would love to have that debate, and he should straight up ask her, dont let the Debate Moderator ask her anything. Look her in the eye, say kamala, why did you lie about inflation . Why did it go up so high . Just hit her right between the eyes, she will never be able to do it. Keep her on the defensive. Right now she has been on defense since the Convention And Nate silver now trumps the Oddson Favorite to win. Every day the probability of trump when he gets greater and greater. Dana okay, he did not say red ways but he is getting close. Jesse i would never say that. Judge jeanine dont say that gets before Kamala Harris is going to Debate Camp and how to toss Joe Bidens presidency under the bus. When the sawdust settles and the Engine Roars the thing you care about is a job well done. But when you get your tools from Harbor Freight Something about the job feels different your wallet. Whatever you do, do it for less, at harbor freight. Hey lexus, show alternate routes. Technology thats ready for the road ahead. The lexus nx. Greg lets ask kamala how her Debate Prep is going. How is Debate Prep . Madame Vice President , how is Debate Prep going . Greg she just proved how different she was from Joe Biden. She got right up those stairs. Amazing come apparently she just told Reporters Moment ago that her prep is doing well pure its turning tomorrow she will behold up in pennsylvania for five days of Debate Camp. Getting pointers on how to rattle donald on the national stage, as well as figure out how to unburden herself from her boss, joe. According to msnbc, taking the approach you might have to respectfully but forcefully lay blame like problems of the afghanistan withdrawal squarely at bidens feet. So jesse she has to draw distinctions from joe, that should be easy, right . Ring a mirror and put it under her nose so you can see it fogged up. Jesse thats good. She has to differentiate herself from Joe Biden. But the more she does that, the more she starts agreeing with Donald Trump. So trump is going to be like yeah, kamala, we agree, so why are you running against me . Why didnt you just told joe to do what we talked about right here . Just tell him the last four years he was wrong, he didnt listen to you or you didnt really Say Anything, you just sat there, didnt you . She says she is going to differentiate herself on afghanistan, how . Already bragged she was the last person in the room. Differentiate herself with the border, the border czar, on the economy she was the tiebreaking vote be at i just dont see the areas where she can say i was different or i would have done things differently, just impossible. Her other strategy is to rattle him. Okay, the only time trump was rattled in the first debate was when biden said he was a six handicap. He has been shot, rated, rested come i dont think you can rattle him at the debate, he will be fine. Greg perhaps be a judge, what do you think this camp will be like . Singalongs . Smores . Some Evening Skits . Judge jeanine i imagine they probably have Pin Donkey but the donkey is Donald Trump, running around, can you get him, can you got him . Look, i dont underestimate her and lets not underestimate her. She was a prosecutor. I mean, shes a lawyer appeared she failed the bar but thats not a good sign but then she passed it. But she is a mess. [laughter] jesse dont underestimate her but she is a mess. Judge jeanine she is a mess when it comes to Off Script discussions. And its up to Donald Trump to get her Off Script. This is what is happening. She is going to try to explain to the audience that the best years are when she and biden were in the white house, okay . And shes got to distinguish, you are right, jesse, got to somehow separate herself with a scalpel from Joe Biden, especially when it relates to afghanistan. But at the same time her job is going to be to needle trump, to rattle trump, to do whatever she can to get under his skin. Shes going to say, you never got the mexicans to pay for the wall, and you are The One or stop the Border Bill. We would have saw the Border Bill if it werent for you. You know, you couldnt pass an Infrastructure Bill like we did. She is going to do stuff like that. And hes got to go back at her, and hes got to be able to unhinge her. And she has unhingable, ill tell you that. She was go to Joe Biden when she called Joe Biden, how dumb, makes her hopefully in her mind the next president , but when Tulsi Gabbard Got On Stage with her and tulsi said you got 1700 people you put in prison with marijuana and you laugh about the fact you smoke a joint. She didnt have her safe space. When someone hits you at the debate with something that unhinge is you that you didnt expect, that No One talked about value peace, that safe space, but im all about this, and just keep moving. She doesnt know how to do that. She couldnt do it. The question is are they going to prepare her so much that she is going to be like lost in her own head . Or is she going to be able to aggravate Donald Trump . I dont think thats going to happen. Trump showed in the biden debate how he can just take the crap and only one point he looked at joe and said i dont think thats what he said come i dont know what he said. Too much prep is going to be dangerous for her. But she also has an opportunity to take some hits but i dont thinK She is smart enough. Greg kennedy, The One thing she has, she Cant Use anymore. Im speaking. She cant do im speaking because she used that w