[the star-spangled banner] ♪ ♪ [the star-spangled banner] ♪ [the star-spangled banner] ♪ [the star-spangled banner] ♪ [the star-spangled banner] will: welcome to "fox and friends" weekend on this saturday. which picture from across the us of a got charlie hurt to go hmm. charlie:the guy in the american flag shorts. will: we thought it would be maybe -- rachel: graduation. will: a tribute to pete hegseth. rachel: that would be a great business for, graduation gowns, jackets, everything from the inside. he might not work for us anymore. charlie: i didn't even know it was a graduation gown. rachel: my cousin are at had a picture of it. he is a veteran. a lot of stuff of veterans. the kinds of people who get on those motorcycles and drag across the country. i am proud of him and love him. happy i got his picture. will: happy to have you here, charlie. we are happy to have you watching as well this morning. as we get to the presidential election a big moment later this week as the cnn presidential debate will take place this coming thursday setting up donald trump for campaigning in pennsylvania. this is as the race titans even in places like new york which is gotten within 8 points. 47% for president biden as is always the case for a democrat in new york, donald trump up to 39%. why? minority voters, latino voters, we would all expect after what happened at university campuses and the war in israel, jewish voters. rachel: it will be the year of minorities and unexpected demographics. it plays out in the election, it will have generational repercussions, mexican-american family, he voted, he was in the military voting for ronald reagan because he was like the military was so demoralized then. he voted for ronald reagan, now generations, i am conservative, my kids are conservative, once you automatically become a swing voter. charlie: when you do matchup polls i am suspicious of them. when you glean something, those trend lines among black voters or women voters, the same pollster doing the same poll using the same methods from 20202 today. among black voters it went from 4% support, among the jewish voters it doubles. and looking at those trends, it is overwhelming. rachel: it's a really good choice for a city because this headline politico said black voters in milwaukee could be determining the election. here's what they said. a few cities have received as much care and attention from president biden as milwaukee. the problem is milwaukee isn't returning the affection. that's a problem for biden. black voters in milwaukee influential block of it could determine if the state remains blue or flips this fall. these voters have doubts about biden and whether he has delivered on his promises to them. no danger that donald trump will carry this historically democratic city in november. there is considerable risk that an anemic showing in milwaukee could cost biden this critical swing state and possibly the election. i wrote here 40% of milwaukee population is black but almost 20%, 19.5%, are hispanic. hispanics trend is the most dissatisfied demographic. charlie: politico is breaking down how this affects the race for president. wisconsin is any credible important state. it comes down to minority voters and milwaukee but another one is after years -- i guess i find a measure of hope in the idea that after decades of pandering to constituencies, there's a sense out there, i think there's a sense guy hope it is not just wishful thinking, there's a sense that the pandering is beginning to run its course, starting to lose its impact, you can tell people the other side is racist, you can tell people to lean into identity politics, you can lean into superficial things for half a century to get their vote and after a while it loses its impact. that's what bill marr is talking about, the people you are pandering to are the ones that are beginning to go maybe it is not worth the pandering. >> i could go through the stats. it is a little scary because he's losing the people who are supposed to be the ones in the democratic camp. he went to morehouse, what is democracy, 10 times better than anyone else to get a fair shot, pandering to me, black voters under 50. now by 37, still a lot but lost 43 points off of the key constituency. student loans, he has forgiven $144 billion in student loans, 36% of student debtholders like it. if you can't win the people you are pandering to, politics is about pandering, you do what people want to a certain degree and also be a leader but if you are not winning these votes and he has lost 8% off of women since 2020 and yet i read in the polls he pulled ahead this week. charlie: when you accuse the supporters who don't support him as racist, early-stage pondering, the government had these things, the thing i can't solve it is accommodation of both things and pitch the end of the line, all these grand promises, this is the utopia they've been promising so long. will: it would be beyond calling them racist to saying you are not black if you don't vote for me. that's got to be the end terminal on the pandering train. charlie: you misdiagnosed your own race if you think you are going to vote for donald trump. back to what you said a minute ago. people are getting red pills and the people democrats didn't expect because they haven't been listening to their own voters. rachel: they think they can use the other side hates you but they are still using money and one of the ways they've done that is with student loans, trying to buy votes with student loans. interesting story has come up because there's a hill staffer who bragged about the student loan forgiveness he got, trying to give props to the boss, president biden, elections matter and he got $8000 in student loan, here's his post, just got a call to let me know my student debt has been canceled. this is why elections matter. thanks@joe biden. he makes 90,000 a year in the reason he is gone viral, smart people went back and looked it is all social media posts, lives a pretty luxurious lifestyle. the seafood tower at expensive restaurant, traveling to all these places and a lot of people in ohio and wisconsin and minnesota and working-class people are going why are we paying for this guy's student loan forgiveness. charlie: he works as a staffer in ohio, not a shoe in for reelection. this is the kind of thing that becomes a massive issue. it is already an issue in that race. her opponent is smearing her with this as he should. and it flies under the radar but it's a big issue because the unfairness of it is so obvious. the median income in ohio is in the $60,000 range, this guy makes $90,000 a year according to leger storm, that kind of thing grinds into people you pay for this to pay off this guy's debts. will: hard-working americans paying for student loan forgiveness. >> i'm not a constitutional expert but i don't think what he did is constitutional. it doesn't seem like it is legal, certainly not fair to ask a workforce filled with electricians and fishermen to pay off debts of that guy but never mind all that. what he is doing isn't going get to work. colleges aren't going to reduce their tuition if we pay off every penny about student debt, no incentive, harvard sitting on $51 billion and we are paying off, literally paying off the debts of their graduates on the backs of the people in the workforce you so admire. will: it is not going to work. it's probably the most impactful when it comes to the election but we have models for this, we know how this works. the healthcare industry. you subsidize something, the government helps pay for it and what happens to the prices of the things you are subsidizing? they go up. healthcare is out of control because it's a third-party payment system. and insurance provider pays for the cost, you don't go to the doctor and say how much will this cost me except for your co-pay. what my co-pay? rachel: crazy story that should not have happened. i have insurance the did not cover me. why? i have no idea. rachel: then you ask how much it is going to cost and we were shocked how they nickel and dime dose, tylenol pill was $20 and that is what they charge. i am curious if either of you know could this kid's tweet, he made 80,000 last year, could he hurt his, we know he is hurting his boss could this be a reason the boss loses his representative? >> that is how these things happen. the media is slow to catch on to it because it goes over the radar or under the radar because it hits with people and this is outrageous. will: a few additional headlines. police identify this man as the should hukill three people outside of grocery store near little rock, arkansas. ten people including two police officers were hurt, the suspect facing three counts of capital murder with more charges pending. officers have not revealed a motive but we are learning the suspect was arrested in new york in 2011 for having a handgun on a military base. justin timberlake speaking out for the first time since his arrest for driving while intoxicated in new york. the popstar thanked fans for support saying it has been a tough week. i know i am hard to love but keep loving you right back. tim lake responded to his tour grew hours after he was charged. he is expected to perform again tonight in chicago. the red-hot edmonton oilers defied the odds by taking down the florida panthers 5 to 1. end game six of the stanley cup final. since 1945, forcing game 7, they were down 3-0 in the cup series, is 3-3. >> score. makes it 3-0. will: this is what i was hoping for. for the boston celtics, with one game. i have to pay off a but. the 9:00 hour, i will pay that bet. historic. hasn't pulled it off yet. rachel: two years ago, my nephew won the stanley cup. that was a big deal. charlie: i would have watched that. will: they are over. charlie: i thought it was going to be game 7. rachel: he glosses over. will: a ball like this. charlie: if it is not a baseball i don't know what it is. will: i do have some opinions. i can tell you. rachel: it is baseball. will: it is baseball. charlie: virginia doesn't have a team. rachel: most of them are hockey fans. will: from canada? will: the last couple of weeks. will: rachel: what is more patriotic as we talk about this? will: defined by what? rachel: how enthusiastic they are about singing the national anthem. charlie: football, baseball? rachel: they don't take me in hockey. they don't take me. >> 20% of the guys are from america. they are from canada. sweden and russia, the most patriotic americans. not as patriotic as virginia. the most patriotic status charlie's state. is virginia up there with alaska, montana, maine, oregon, the most patriotic states according to some do it on the internet. rachel: with the criteria? charlie: military service, patriotic enthusiasm, virginia should be at the top of this list. jamestown 1607 was a thing, we wrote the declaration of independence, the constitution, the bill of rights. and we produced the most presidents of any state. of course virginia is the most patriotic state in the union. will: this is how it is gauged. military engagement and civic engagement. the percentage of the population that chooses to serve in the military or fulfills the definition of civic engagement which i assume is some type of public service. eloquent testimony. this is to virginia, you are doing something in virginia where everybody wants to be involved. charlie: northern virginia has expanded so far into the state that you have a bunch of federal workers. which is also if we could eliminate that in norfork and get rid of all the bureaucrats. will: a lot of federal government workers. alaska a lot of federal government workers. charlie: military installations. to be up there with montana and alaska is good stuff. i take this as a personal drifter. will: more "fox and friends" coming up in just moments. 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>> it turns my stomach because these are lives lost that could have been prevented had we had strong policies, out of the administration, one of the biggest issues is we need to separate immigration and border security and focus on national security for public safety piece securing the border. this is what happens when we do not finish what we started. when we reverse policies that were effective, and freed up to go after the got aways. people that were caught and released or people who got away because of the hundreds of thousands who were coming in the last 3 years and one last point, i am in chicago, four days in michigan talking to people fed up with this. this is on everybody absent-minded. will: we showed the mugshots of the two men, victor martinez, johan josé martinez and franklin piña. here is the thing. what is the other side? what they are saying, i remember the associated press didn't mention, or illegal immigrants, they didn't know of these issues. anyone who disagrees may not know this is happening but my suspicion is they would dismiss it as aberrations. there's criminals in every population. you can't use these crimes to paint an entire population of illegal immigrants. i assume that's what's going on in the minds of the associated press. >> we've seen groups talk about when you measure immigrant crime or migrant crime. no one is disagreeing there is crime and evil in this world where we allow it in or let it in is the problem. we won't get away with that, god gave us free will and there are always those challenges. our people, our citizens, why are we exporting of the migrants themselves and creating these risk factors when there is a way to reduce it. that's why we have to stop conflating immigration and security and public safety and national security and deal with immigration concerns people have. i agree with you, that's how they get peace of mind. what doesn't have to happen, and sent a clear message we are not going to tolerate this nonsense anymore. hopefully we get this right come november. will: night it preexisting our population. why import more? regardless of the rape, why import more crime? these guys from venezuela, we know what we suspect is coming from venezuela and who they are releasing and pushing to america and let's not remove ourselves from the horrific details of these individual instances. thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you for keeping this topic going and continuing the good fight. will: massachusetts launching an ad campaign attacking pro-life pregnancy centers. the executive director of one responds next. some days, you can feel like a spectator in your own life with chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month each lasting 4 hours or more. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they start. and treatment is 4 times a year. in a survey, 91% of users wish they'd started sooner. so why wait? talk to your doctor. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. don't receive botox® if there's a skin infection. tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, and medications including botulinum toxins as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. chronic migraine may still keep you from being there. why wait? 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what is dangerous about an ultrasound? >> nothing dangerous about our centers. our clients give us a 98% satisfaction rate on our exit service which our clients love us. it's incredibly amazing how we are being attacked by our government. rachel: using your own tax dollars. what happened to choice? this is a choice in the state of massachusetts, they have abortion clinics but there are pregnancy centers for those who 80% of women who had abortions say they wouldn't have done it had they had help and support and that is what these centers offer. why are they so afraid of walking into these centers? >> because it affects the abortion clinics bottom line. we help women and men to keep their babies and the more babies that are born rather than a bordered affects the abortion industry's bottom line because the more abortions they perform the more money they make. rachel: how worried are you, this ad has one million dollars behind it. that's a lot of money. how worried are you that it will affect people coming to your centers and erode trust in pro-life pregnancy centers? >> it's very sad because it is a scare tactic to scare people away from the pregnancy centers where they get help and i was one of those people. i got pregnant when i was in high school and wanted it to keep the baby and yet without support i was pushed into an abortion and i hope those women and my team and other pregnancy resource centers to help women like me and without us doing that, millions of dollars that wouldn't be spent on help for women to keep their babies and resources that we have available for them. rachel: women want help and support and i met so many who work at those pregnancy centers and they are angels and treat the women who walk through those doors as if they were their own daughters and sad to see this happen. has there been reaction from the people of massachusetts? how did they feel about tax dollars being spent this way? >> many people are upset because we are supported by individuals, complete