we are also waiting comment from the white house, karine jean-pierre will be briefing for the first time since hunter biden's criminal gun trial began. hello and welcome everyone i'm sandra smith, john, great to be with you. >> john: i am john roberts in washington this is "america reports." at the washington hilton this hour to remark on gun violence. its juxtaposition were his own son has now been conducted on felony charges for owning a gun while on drugs. we have an all-star lineup to discuss everything coming out of the courtroom. >> sandra: but we are starting with david outside of the federal courthouse in wilmington, delaware. david, i want to make sure we tell our viewers off the top of our own jake gibson just sat down with juror number ten. we are turning the interview in its entirety, we will play that out for our viewers we are told is about 14 or 15 minutes long. remember, david, this is a man who recalled briefly chatting with someone, likely his brother about the hunter case knowing it was involving drugs and guns and he said to not say much because he had jury duty. he insisted he had not much about the case and key to this juror, david, he was one of the jurors who said for he has family members who own guns. another loved one in his life struggled with addiction and passed away we will hear from not juror shortly. david to you on the latest as we await the live event. >> scent of the defense was hoping this event and other jurors especially this juror may have help them out because he has connections to someone with guns, also someone that struggled with addiction thinking they may be a sympathetic juror. ultimately this juror, juror number ten a 68-year-old from lower delaware sussex county was not a sympathetic juror. this juror told my colleague gibson who covered the justice department with me ultimately he did not believe hunter biden was at a 7-eleven here in wilmington, delaware, back in 2018 to perhaps by a cup of coffee or buy a doughnut is hunter biden's attorney debbie lowell said he believes he was meeting at the local 7-eleven to do a drug deal because hunter biden mentions 7-eleven's in his book and says that is where some drug deals are done. especially deals of crack cocaine. listen, there's a lot of distraction in this case but ultimately it came down to one page. that page is a gun that hunter biden filled out in october of 2018 specifically october 12 of 2018. he has been convicted of falsely filling it out, convicted on all three charges. i was in the courtroom sitting about 15 feet behind him. he was stoic, he was looking forward, he gave his wife a kiss after the verdict was read and he was smiling a little bit with family members to try to stay positive. it was noticeable center and john that every day of the trial except one day last week was not in the courtroom at the time the verdict was read because the verdict came so quickly. jurors only deliberated for two hours today and an hour yesterday. in fact things were so hastily arranged to david the special counsel he even was not in the courtroom when the verdict was read. this came down to one page this is the gun form from 2018 hunter biden convicted and i want to read a statement from hunter biden. it says "i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community than i am disappointed about the outcome. recovery is possible by the grace of god and i am blessed to experience that gift one day at a time." according to president biden it appears hunter biden will likely be appealing this. we don't know the next steps we know he is facing trial for tax evasion it remains to be seen out will continue to go on, maybe they will ask special counsel weiss if he wants to cut a deal or go to trial as we wait for special counsel david weiss at the bottom right of your screen who had a big legal victory today. in wilmington, delaware. the sender and john? >> sandra: as you said that we got a five minute warning, david weiss' remarks, statement following the hunter biden verdict so any moment now we will be hearing directly from weiss. david, thank you. john? >> john: president biden to speak at a an annual gun safety event in washington. biden says he will respect the guilty verdict against hunter, it will be there for him until the appeals process is complete. griff jenkins live at the white house. hunter biden's team didn't mention the bill but the president is going down that road. >> interesting comment on any statement statement the white house put out within about 30 minutes let me take it to you or take you to it right now it says "as i said last week i am the president but i am also a dad. joe and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. so many families who had loved ones battle addiction understands the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out on the other side and be so strong and resilient in rec recovery. as they also said last week i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect judicial process as hunter considers an appeal, jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with love and support, nothing will ever change that. now we are awaiting the president's remarks at a gun safety event across town. unclear if you will comment on his son's conviction or address, john, the admission rations efforts to toughen some of the very gun laws that hunter is convicted or a. you can bet karine jean-pierre and the white house press briefing will get a lot of questions especially in the light of the president's comments when he was in nor normandy. >> as we sit here in normandy your son, hunter, is on trial. i know that you cannot speak about an ongoing federal prosecution, but let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome there verdict no matter what of his? >> yes. >> have you ruled out a pardon for your son question work >> yes. >> he is ruling out a pardon but he has not been asked, john, whether he would rule out a commutation, as you know a pardon wipes out all guilt of the conviction but a commutation would simply get rid of the sentence but not exonerate the individual, and it will be interesting to see whether president biden will refrain from referring to donald trump as a convicted felon on the campaign trail. now that his son is -- we will find out exactly what will come of this, but already the trump campaign has issued a statement just paraphrasing he says "this trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family was called marta, not as we get it, john? >> john: i was again exactly the same thing, for a. now that this has happened with hunter are democrats going to be so liberal in throwing around the words "convicted felon? we will see. griff jenkins press at the white house thank you. sandra? >> sandra: let's bring in judge jeanine shapiro, cohost of the five. i know you are receiving on the statement because it's bran brand-new, david spunt just put it up as well, i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community that i am disappointed by the outcome. recovery is possible by the grace of god" he says "and i am blessed to experience that gift one day at a time" this is his statement following the guilty verdict. judge? >> okay. what's interesting about that statement, sandra, he is basically admitting is a drug addict. the very argument i be loyal proffered during the course of this trial that he really didn't think he was an addict, does the law require he be an addict, his statement within minutes of the verdict comes out and says recovery is possible one day at a time and i am blessed to be able to have. i mean, it just shows you the defense which it was all smoke and mirrors in this thing was anything from the family sitting in the front row and that intimidation factor starting with jury selection which was so bizarre. you know, maybe he was an alcoholic, maybe he was not a drug addict, all of that stuff the jury just did not talk buy it, they did it in record time and they didn't based upon the evidence and the law. make no mistake, they had the defendant's voices i said it before, bellowing throughout the courthouse, the court room, they the laptop, they had the biden women who had to come and into talk about the reality of what it was like being with hunter biden. so this jury didn't buy the nonsense. unsurprised abbe lowell did it. >> john: we have sound from one of the jurors, our intrepid producer gibson caught up with one as the juror was leaving the courthouse and the jurors that i didn't buy the idea and nobody else did that hunter biden was at a 7-eleven at 5:00 in the morning to do anything other than buying drugs. abbe lowell's defense jonathan turley remarked on this yesterday. seemed to say "well when he signed that form the firearms transaction form he was not high at that moment" but that's not how they judge it is at that moment, it sort of in the overall what is the situation? >> and i think it was zoe carson, the girlfriend of hunter who said hunter admitted he is always an addict. whether you are in recovery or not. she says he recognized that. but look, you don't need to have cocaine on the counter where you fill out the form to buy a gun illegally. i mean, that's just bizarre. and the fact that so many of these jurors knew someone used or who were drug addicts, used drugs come overdosed on drugs, think it was 8 out of 12 of them. they knew this was just smoke and mirrors and it wasn't reality. >> sandra: i just want to put abbe lowell's statement up as we are speaking of him, we are told they embraced before hunter did depart the court following the guilty verdict. he has put this out today. following the verdict we are naturally disappointed by today's verdict. we respect the jury process and as we have done throughout this case, we will continue to vigorously pursue all the legal challenges available to hunter." interesting after hunter's statement. "they're all he has been through in his recovery including this trial, hunter has felt grateful for and blessed by the love and support of his family." i also want to highlight as we did at the top of the hour, judge, we are awaiting this interview that our own jake gibson just had with juror number ten. this is key because this is one of the jurors who said he has family members who own guns. why is that key? jonathan turley was making an appointment just a few minutes ago about how abbe lowell may have lost the jurors or insults of the jurors when he went to the defense of oh, well, maybe he was not addicted or high or drunk in the moment of signing the contract for the gun. is that a possibility? >> absolutely. jurors get insulted. the fact this juror understood from the book that 7-eleven, he had rented in the book, was where he often got drugs. and for abbe lowell to try to draw some things that made no sense, look. as a judge i would say to a jury how do you assess the credibility of something? does it ring true? does it make sense in light of all the stuff that you have heard in this trial and in light of your own background, your own common sense. that these are jurors who understand drug addiction, drug use, and abuse. the fact that abby brought in alcohol, no one has ever talked about hunter biden having an alcohol problem. i mean and also maybe he wasn't calling mookie, the drug dealer, within a few minutes of trying to buy the gun. maybe he was calling his girlfriend and did not want haley to know about it. you know? maybe, maybe, maybe he is weak when it is confronted with a laptop, live testimony, and circumstantial evidence. >> john: by the way we have a shot of the u.s. attorney's office expecting to hear from david weiss may be in about five or 6 minutes. it has been delayed just a little bit. again, hunter biden's team has not mentioned anything about this yet but the president is already firmly behind hunter going to the court of appeal on this. i mean, judge, unlike the term case, which seemed to be littered with holes and mis mistakes, this seems to be a pretty airtight case. >> this is an airtight case. this will be very difficult to get a reversal on. it was handled by george noriega who is an experienced judge who didn't play any games. she was as fair to the defense as she was to the prosecution. but i think the most important issue that you are going to hear them talk about going forward is the supreme court is going to hear a case based upon what happened in 2022 in new york, the bruin case, which basically said everyone should be able to have a gun -- >> john: hey, judge sorry to interrupt here is david weiss the u.s. attorney. >> good afternoon. my name is david weiss, i am special counsel. earlier today hunter biden was convicted of two counts of lying on a form submitted to a federal firearms dealer about his addiction or use of crack cocaine. and possessing a firearm while a user or addict. they have been two overarching themes during trial. this defendant's illegal choices and the rule of law. first, while there has been much testimony about the defendant's abuse of drugs and alcohol, ultimately this case wasn't not just about addiction. a disease that haunts families across the united states including hunter biden's family. this case was about the illegal choice the defendant may dwell in the throes of addiction, his choice to lie on a government form, when he bought a gun and the choice to then possess that gun. it was these choices and the combination of jute guns and drugs that made his conduct dangerous. second, no one in this country is above the law. everyone must be accountable for their actions, even this defendant. hunter biden should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct. the prosecution has been, and will continue to be, committed to this principle. and to the principles of federal prosecution in carrying out its responsibilities. i want to thank the jury for their service. there are few civic responsibilities more important than jury service. 15 delaware aryans came to court each day and performed their response abilities in a professional and conscientious matter. we thank you. i want to thank derek hines, weiss, and the entire special council team. i am so proud of this group of attorneys, agents, and litigation professionals. this is a difficult assignment. these folks have been working seven days a week for the last couple of months, litigating a variety of issues and district and appellate courts on two coasts. that they have given their heart and soul to this work. they represent the best that public service has to offer. i am incredibly grateful. finally i want to thank attorney general garland for providing the support necessary to fulfill our mission ensuring that we have the independence to appropriately pursue our investigations and prosecutions. as you know, we have additional trials and investigative work to be done. so i will not entertain questions at this time. our work continues, thank you for your consideration. thanks. >> john: it looks like he is not going to take any more questions there but david weiss the special counsel in the hunter biden case saying this case was not about addiction, it was about the illegal choices made in the throes of addiction. judge, i thought this was interesting pair he said this again proves that no one is above the law, which was the same thing that we heard with president trump in his case. but he also said however he should be no more accountable than anyone else who is convicted of the same offense. i'm wondering what is the typical sentence for lying on a form of this particular issue? >> what i do know is this. first of all federal sentencing guidelines. >> john: ten years or $250,000 fine? >> it's 20 years. what they did was the biden administration moved to increase the penalties for those who lie on this atf form to get a firearm illegally. it was the biden white house that pushed that. it was joe biden who signed t that. but with respect to a federal sentencing, there are certain guidelines. does it mandate incarceration? absolutely not paired it's up to the judge now because this defendant chose to go to trial for which is not a punishment, but at the same time is going into consideration. >> sandra: judge if you could standby with us we now have audio only of an interview that was just conducted by our own fox news producer, jake gibson, with juror number ten. before we tossed what i want to make sure i get more background on him. when he was going through the process he recalled chatting with somebody about this, likely his brother, but the hunter biden case. he knew it was related to drugs and guns. he told this person not to say much because he had jury duty. he insisted he did not know much about the case or have any views on it. he also says he has other friends who own guns. they struggled with addiction and passed away. now here's the interview. >> no. >> what he think that is? >> i don't know, because we were so focused on the case and listening to the defense and the prosecutor and witnesses that -- you are really nervous. at what part did i actually nervous about was when the trial was handed over. then it became real. now we have to play the part, you know? the defense and the prosecution and the witnesses are done. now it's our part so -- yeah. at home it got real and i got nervous. >> i took a video of you speaking earlier. i assume since you don't want to use your name you don't want your video as far as public or do you care? >> i can't speak for anybody else here. >> i'd rather not. >> i just want to give you my name and phone number. if you decide you want to be on tv or the internet, we would love to have you. >> it was a trial like i said i never expected to be on it. sitting in it day in and day out looking at all the evidence and mr. biden over there. you can't help but take some of these things, you're looking at them and then at some point you just have to turn away. and focus more on with the defense of saying and the prosecution saying. so that's basically what i started doing. i tried to block the rest of it out and just put why he was on trial. he was just like anybody else, you know? and i believe that they brought that up in court. nobody is above the law. no matter who you are. so, that did not factor in my decision. it was not politically moti motivated. if you want to know that, politics played no part in this whatsoever. again. >> where you cognizant of the family members that were there in the first lady being there is that something the jury talked about or noticed? >> we... i was aware of it. the jury, i know you come a little bit late, but once we came into the jury room, we did not discuss anything. we didn't discuss the family, we didn't discuss any part of the case until it was actually given to us. it was given to us yesterday afternoon. that's when we were able to talk about it. >> have you served on a jury before? >> sandra: that was our fox producer jake gibson interviewing juror number ten who said politics played no part in this case and this decision and the case was heart-wrenching, he said. nobody is above the law. he did not buy the story about hunter being at 7-eleven. judge first your reaction what you've heard. >> i'm very impressed. i think most people who serve on juries and it's been my experience when they come out they try to do the right thing, and it was great listening to him saying you know what? the name did not matter, who he was did not matter, whether or not there was family in the courtroom we did not think about that. we never discussed the case until we actually went into deliberate end than it was about the prosecution and events and