executive order what i can say is in no way should it be described as "shutting down the border" and i will explain why. there are several exceptions to this executive order he will be announcing. number one, this is not going to stop or slow the up to 1500 migrants per day who are being released into the country by showing up at a cvp port of entry with an appointment on a cell phone app called cvp one. its 1000-1500 everyday and they are released in the country. this executive order does not touch that. that's exempted. it also exempts the controversial program where up to 30,000 migrants per month are flying directly into the united states from foreign countries via a massive pleural program the biden administration has put in place for migrants from cuba, haiti, nicaragua, and venezuela. he has brought in over 450,000 people into the country that way so far. this executive order also does not touch that. so we are talking thousands of people coming into the country every single day that is left completely alone. what -- while there is one more exception as well. unaccompanied children and minors are not touched by this executive order. that will raise concerns about possible child trafficking the cartels will essentially be able to market to migrants and say hey, give us your children, we will get them across the border to the united states. we will get them to the federal government. past money come the united states is not going to deport them paired will get them across the border from the u.s. government will get them wherever you want in the united states. that is exactly what is happening right now. there are other exemptions as well migrants are able to claim fear once they are apprehended. so let's talk about what this order actually does. essentially says if a seven day average happens more than 2500 people per day are caught illegally it triggers this border which suspends and blocks asylum for anyone crossing the border. you may wonder where you're getting this number. once that happens it's like a siren goes off a bunch of them come out on the wall goes up they have explained where they're getting the manpower to stop asylum for everybody. i'm being told to wrap i don't know if the president is coming out we will send it to you. >> he is not but we want to talk a moment with griff at the white house. graph, part of this order will be under section 212f of the immigration and nationality act which ironically is the same clause that trump used when implementing his band keeping people from countries that we couldn't be certain they would be safe from back in the early part of his administration. from the so-called muslim ban. i can see when this goes into effect that the aclu and the progressives in his party are going to go nuts. >> that is exactly right. bill did a great job laying out the details of these executive actions but under title eight which is the nationality act of the u.s. more than 50 years old as our immigration laws. under that along with title 42 you recall they were able to send people write back is this due process clause to claim asylum this is saying all of those in between ports of entry they have to either be a heightened threshold and i just met the last hour with a white house official there come a heightened threshold of criminal fear in torture otherwise they will be immediately put into removal processes. the last 24 hours cvp says 5100 plus migrant encounters of which more than 3500 crossed illegally between ports of entry. so i said if you've got 3500 with criminal fear illegally they will be placed in this into rule process and he said yes. i said every day? he said yes. and i said i would talk about mass deportation? and he said we are talking about sending a bring back to those country so we will see where that goes. the white house confirming to me this will take effect as of midnight tomorrow night an interesting day on the border because as bill points out the capacity across the nine sectors to hold people in the rule process and will quickly move a. they are already at or near capacity they don't have enough manpower to put people. then there is one more wrinkle which is more pertinent in a coma where bill is special interest aliens or migrants, those are people from places this morning or from turkey, syria, jordan, these are countries we have planes easily flying back to lake honduras, guatemala, el salvador. in these special interest aliens also secondary vetting to make sure they are not terrorists trying to sneak into the country. one last thing if i can, nothing in this executive order that i see addresses the one thing that the border officials were worried about which is the got aways. a 1.8 million to got a since president biden took office. when i talk to chief owens of the border patrol in february when he accompanied president biden, he spoke about his greatest threat. i'll get back to you after this. >> border security is a huge piece of our national security and border patrol is the primary agency and that. when i tell you their areas of the border we don't have awareness as to what is happening, this is the type of threat i am concerned with. there are those who want to come into this country and do it h harm. those are the individuals that keep me up at night. >> we will see if the president takes any questions that we can ask about the got aways and the greatest threat meanwhile we are looking as bill says not only effective closure of the border but we can be looking at a significant number of deportations and already not only the aclu threatening legal action and rashida tlaib and setting their hair on fire about it we have groups like lost americas out of el paso saying that "this decision illustrates the administration and the lessons of failed deterrent measures in place by biden's predecessors." >> sandra: griff, thank you for that. bill, the house speaker mike johnson did speak earlier ahead of the issuing of this executive action. he is suggesting this is just window dressing. >> he was asked why he would not use his executive order extensive executive authority to address the border catastrophe that he himself created. 126 days ago he looked in the cameras and said i'm out of options and i've done all i can do. suddenly now he wants to issue some weak executive order one, by the way, when executive order supposedly to try to address the issue. it is window dressing. >> sandra: i wanted your thoughts on that. >> is a valid question. think about how many years we've been down here doing live shots showing these massive lines of people at disneyland. to get processed by border patrol smiling waving to the camera, no fear of deportation year after year after year. we kept hearing from the white house year after year no crisis at the border and it's no issue and we moved forward at this year we heard the speaker saying after the border bill failed president biden said repeatedly i've done all i can do on the border. it's up to biden to fix it. will suddenly know five months before the election that there is something i can do executive lee. he has decided to take this action. it makes you wonder why didn't happen last year? 2023 december was my highest number ever in history over 300,000 people in a single month more than 670,000 known got aways were reported by cvp last year. literally the worst number of all time in history and he did not feel that action was needed last year, but randomly this summer after saying he couldn't do it he now feels he has to take some sort of action? you have to focus on the true details here. yes he will limit and restrict us i some people who cross the board illegally in between ports of entry, but he is going to continue bringing in tens of thousands of migrants per month using the cbp one app and flying them into the country via these parole flights. so the illegal crossing numbers may go down a little bit, but he is going to bring more people in the country through "lawful pathways,"" which are things he has created at the level. >> john: griff you will likely hear from the aclu they eventually wait and sing the buy demonstration announce executive order that will severely restrict people's legal right to seek asylum including tens of thousands of lives at risk. this action takes the same approach as a trump administration's asylum plan rather which will be chall challenging. to bill's point as to whether or not this will cross traffic, i am not sure how it could possibly do that because the pull factor is huge. the biden administration is not going to want pictures of people being turned away the border. because the left will go nuts over that. you can't send people from mauritius or mauritania or nepal or china back, so they have to go somewhere. there will likely be pulled into the country. they can't be held in detention centers there's just too many of them. you may say you don't qualify for asylum, but they also likely don't qualify with getting kicked out of the country. >> that's right. the pull factor is an unprecedented level because the cartels have gained the system to go to areas to send him across to tell them to claim asylum, john. >> sandra: griff and bill, if you can hang on with us, it's a live look at the white house where surprise, surprise they are running a little late. about 11 minutes behind at this point but we are getting closer, hang on with us jim jordan coming up the chairman of the judiciary committee thank you for joining us, chairman. we will keep that life shut up there as we do anticipate we will hear from the president shortly he is anticipated sign this executive action at the southern border, why now? why is he taking this option now? >> i think it's five months before an election but you know, sandor, i thought the border was secured time and time again. secretary mayorkas in front of congress, biden said it, kamala harris has said it, the border czar themselves said it so now some executive order 212 they've always had this authority as the speaker pointed out so i think this is just shazam we are five months before an election and the american people are tired of an open border on pace to get 12 million people and the american people i think i understand this was willfully and intentionally deliberately created. this mess by the biden administration on day one to change three policies. no more remain in mexico while we evaluate your claim and when you get here you will be released and given a court date five years in the future. that's why everyone has the thumbs up and smiles for the camera when they come in the border. they created it and now some sham way to deal with it five months before an election. >> sandra: this is a white house that can blame republicans saying you have not been getting this done. a long time ago there had been congressional action what do you say to that? >> we passed it over a year ago, the legislation in the house judiciary committee a good piece of legislation i strong bill that would have put a long and i think if he really wants to he can but or is willing to but they pass out legislation over a year ago. >> sandra: this is obviously an issue that has gone far beyond the southern border. we see city after city dealing with the influx of migrants including in new york city where mayor adams is finally talking about the number of migrants who are committing crimes right here in new york, listen. >> illegal gun dealer does not say let me see your immigration status. are intelligences looking into it to see this number of those committing this crime. overwhelming number of migrants and asylum creek seekers to take the next step on the journey but it's a small number we are really leaning into it. >> sandra: people are fed up with this. it is coming to a city and a town near you. what is a growing migrant crisis and now the number of crimes is on the rise committed by these illegal immigrants. >> it sure is. it's not just the crime which is terrible enough. ask lake and riley's family. the police officers in new york is impact on your school system, health care system, hospitals, the wait time when you have an influx of people who are coming here because, again, the deliberate decisions made by the biden administration on january 20th 2021, they decided they were going to do this and overturn the policy's trump in place that were working and again the they are seeing the effects. >> sandra: you say it's because it's a couple months before the election. perhaps they are seeing polls like this. these are his approval numbers biden on security, released on may 16th when asked do you approve or disapprove of the way the president has handled border security, he has a low approval rating of 33%, 64% disapproval rating. and he is not even making those on the left happy including congresswoman jaya paul. not sure if you heard this, listen. >> what is happening at the border cannot be solved by enforcement actions only perry what really is needed is the entire illegal immigration system and legal pathways and resources to process people. two things that republicans have been a completely unwilling to provide. when donald trump tried to shut down the border it didn't work them. i'm disappointed the president has gone into the same frame as donald trump when we need to make a distinction between donald trump and joe biden. >> sandra: that was a democrat on capitol hill today saying i'm disappointed the president has gone the same frame as donald trump on this issue. hear your reaction? >> well, we will see with this executive order really does. and what they are going to do. i can envision the president is taking all kinds of choices to satisfy the left, we will see. the american people have common sense. there's a reason the vast majority of americans are opposed to these open border policies because they see the impact on the community. the american people get it. they understand it's a big issue because it's a big issue. they understand that. >> sandra: congressman we appreciate you joining us. we await the president about 16 minutes late but he is expected to step up to the podium shortly and sign the executive action will be listening for his marks. congressman, thank you very m much. john, everyone is watching this. it was once a border issue, a southern border issue, now as we report almost daily we have bill bennett coming up on the education impact of the influx of migrants in these cities where you have many children who had never spoken english before, they are in the public school system and these public schools are inundated with kids who need to be taught english. these are school systems that were already struggling before this crisis coming out of covid. so this has major implications coast to coast. >> john: initially it was thought this idea was it's a democratic talking point, but when you take a look at the impact in literally every state across the nation, it absolutely means every state is a border state because every state is affected by this. but i mean this is the part that is difficult to wrap your head around. that is that president biden is having the threshold trigger for this program in 2500 which means this program could be permanently in place. because right now we are at double that number at times we have gone up to 858500 people per day so i still cannot quite figure out how any of this is going to work. we are moments away from president biden announcing his ongoing executive action of the border. will it do anything to get it out of control? 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no one's talking about that. all the attention is on the thousands that come over every day. what about the people that are here? >> john: i have to interrupt you here, here's the president. >> president biden: take the necessary steps to secure our border. four months ago, after weeks of intense negotiation between my staff and democrats and republicans, we came to a clear, clear bipartisan deal. the strongest border security agreement in decades. and then the republicans in congress not all of them walked away from it. why? because donald trump told them to. he told the republicans by many of you that he did not want to fix the issue, he wanted to use it to attack me. that's what he wanted to do. it was a cynical extremely cynical political move. a complete disservice to the american people who are looking for us not weaponize the border but to fix it. today i am joined by a part bipartisan group of governors, members of congress come mayors, law enforcement officials, most of whom live and work along the southern border. i know the border is not a political issue to be weap weaponized. the responsibility we have two share, to do something about it. we don't have time for the games played in washington and neither do the american people. so, today, i will be moving past to the possibilities for me as president on the border. i would've preferred to address this in bipartisan legislation because that is the only way to actually get the kind of system we have now that is broken fixed to hide hire more judges and more border patrol agents but republicans have left me no choice. today i am announcing actions to bar migrants across our southern border unlawfully from receiving a silent. of migrants will be restricted from receiving asylum at our southern border unless they seek it after entering through an established lawful process. those who seek to come through the united states illegally for example i am making an appointment to come through port of entry, some will still be available to them. still available. if the individual chooses not to use our legal pathways, if they choose to come without permission and against the law, they will be restricted from receiving asylum and staying in the united states. this action will help us gain control of our border. restore order into the process. this span remains in place until a number of people entering illegally as domain is reduced to a level we can effectively manage. this is consistent with all of our responsibilities, everyone of