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it. the trump campaign saying it's holding near through -- nearly $53 million in donations in the first 24 hours after the historic guilty verdicts. the former president promising to appeal that verdict. the biden also fund raising off of it. no word on how much it has raised, but the current president is speak out about it, and we are all over it from what donors are saying to how voters are reacting. and we're all over president biden's son hunter preparing for, well, the first of his trials beginning monday, this one over felony gun charges in delaware. could hunter's legal mess actually overshadow donald trump's? and from the legal storms to the very real ones that are battering texas yet again. now several states across the plains and this start of hurricane season officially. so much going on. we start right now. ♪ neil: welcome, everybody, glad to have you, i'm neil can cavuto. we've got, obviously, the appeal on the part of donald j. trump. we're going to go to c.b. cotton outside trump tower here in new york city. c.b.? >> reporter: hi, neil, good morning. more on the appeals process in a moment. first, i want to talk about what's yet to be seen, and that's how this guilty verdict is going to impact independent and swing state voters, both republican and democratic political strategists say it all depends if on how former president donald trump plays this moment. and we got a first look on friday when trump came out by himself to speak to the media at trump tower. he said he was still under a gag order, and he took no questions following his 35-minute speech, but he calls the presiding judge in the case a tyrant. and trump painted himself as the victim of a fascist state. listen. >> this is a case where, if they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone. i don't mind being out there because i'm doing something for this country, and i'm doing something for our constitution. it's very important. far beyond me. and this can't be allowed to happen to other presidents. it should never be allowed to happen in the future. >> reporter: so here's the post-trial timeline. take a look. trump's lawyers can file any post-trial motions until june 13th. those are marries defense lawyers took issue with during the trial and, therefore, would like to bring before judge juan merchan. merchan will sentence trump on july 11th. at that point, trump will have until august 10 19th to file a note of appeal for his conviction. president joe biden spoke out on the verdict for the first time yesterday saying this: >> the american principle that no one is above the law was reaffirmed. donald trump was given every opportunity to defend himself. it was a state case, not a federal case, and it was heard by a jury of 12 citizens, 123 americans -- 12 americans, 12 people like you. like millions of americans who have served on juries, this jury was chosen the same way every jury in america is chosen. it was a process that donald trump's attorney was a part of. >> reporter: house speaker mike johnson said he believes trump's conviction should be appealed all the way to the u.s. supreme court, and we also know jim jordan, republican chairman of the house judiciary committee, is now demanding the testimonies of prosecutor matthew coangelo and manhattan d.a. alvin bragg. neil. neil: c.b. cotton, thank you very much for that. the former president is in bedminster, new jersey, there were huge crowds around turn tower yesterday, by and large a pro-donald trump crowd that was gathering outside there yesterday. bedminster, it's a little harder to do that. in the meantime, i do want to get the legal implications of this appeal process, the big july 11th sentencing date only days before the republican convention. rebecca rose woodland, sol wisenberg, the former independent deputy counsel, fox news contributor. sol, interesting couple of piece i've been reading on the prospect of appealing something like this. in new york appellate courts though i understand rarely do they overturn a jury decision without evidence of serious error. so the obvious question to ask you, are there enough serious errors here to make an appeal and make an appeals court go the other way? >> well, i think there are very, very serious errors here, neil. to begin with, the fact that trump's lawyers really weren't given the actual theory, the actual facts about what other crimes. remember, they had to prove that he falsified business records with the intent to cover up or commit other crimes, and they weren't informed of that, the trump defense team, until right before closing arguments. that's a real due process problem. in my view. also problems with what the prosecution was allowed to argue. basically, they were allowed to, in effect, argue that the guilty plea by michael cohen to election fraud and the non-prosecution agreement by david pecker having to do with election fraud essentially meant that donald trump committed election fraud. now, the judge gave an instruction that said you shouldn't consider that, but he allowed the prosecution to make what i believe are very improper argument as. so the real issue's on appeal. it is true both in the state and federal system that the overwhelming number of prosecutions are affirmed on appeal, but i think he's got some real issues. neil: all right. rebecca, with the sentencing set for july 11th, only days before the republican convention, can judge merchan actually seriously consider putting donald trump in jail if even briefly while this is on appeal? >> well, jail is a possibility based on his 34 felony counts. i completely agree with sol about the appellate process in new york. air -- i've appealed many cases in new york, and overwhelmingly the cases are affirmed. i believe in this matter the fact that there's a qume la ative the effect -- cumulative effect of negative judicial action towards defendant also will contribute to the appellate division possibly doing a review. now, you have the appellate division of the court of appeals, and then if those appeals are exhausted, he can then, you know, request the supreme court take a look at this based on the glaring constitutional errors and constitutional restrictions donald trump has faced. what we're looking at though on july 11th is possible fine, probation or punishment in jail. yes. and will this judge do it? we have seen him do so many outrageous, egregious things that even though the former president is -- this is a nonviolent crime and he has no previous history of criminal activity, i do not know that judge merchan will take that into account. we don't know what we're going to get on july 11th because look at what we've gotten so far. we've gotten a case that no one was even apprised of the crime until the day the verdict sheet was read. this has been glaring talkingsal error -- constitutional error, glaring, ridiculous depriefl of donald trump's constitutional a rights. this has been a case where the law has been put together and stacked against him almost like creating a frankenstein monster. this is not law that new york has ever seen before in this way. so what will we see next? it's very hard to tell. neil: you know, you talked of the possibility, rebecca, there of the supreme court playing a role in this. s work l, let me ask you a little bit about that -- sol. they generally try to run away from these sorts of things. it's hard to see that a happening, it goes back to 2000 and the closeness of that race, the florida recount, i get it. here they've been involved already a number of times, and on something like this, could hay take the up a matter like this or say, no, no, no, let it play out in the lower courts? >> well, in the normal course of things if former president trump loses at the state apell if late level are, he can -- appellate level, he can file a cert position with the supreme court. those are usually summarily denied. i don't know what they will do here. if the constitutional a issues are important enough to them, they'll grant cert. but that takes a long time. the question is, can trump and his team do something to get, to short circuit that and get to the supreme court right away, and i think it's extremely unlikely. now, if judge merchan -- people have suggested if judge merchan were to fashion a sentence or conditions of release that interfere with trump's political campaign, that there might be a hook to take it to the supreme court. that is an extreme long shot. neil: remember saw -- rebecca, for the time being donald trump is a convicted felon. when that sticks, of course, anyone's guess. a convicted felon normally cannot vote. can donald trump? >> well, in this case he hasn't been fully sentenced but, yes, he is a convicted felon. he can run for office. so i think we should focus on the fact that he can run for office, and we are going to focus on the fact that he will stand up for his constitutional a rights on jewel 11th, i agree -- july 11th. i agree with sol that normal course of business requires the supreme court to even review once the highest court in the state has looked at the matter and add a jude candidated. finish adjudicated. there's a possibility, of course, that his team, donald trump's team, can appeal to the supreme court given that this is a novel issue that a president has never been convicted, we can see if the supreme court will take this up prior to exhausting all of the appellate process in new york or which, sol is right, it will take months and months for that to happen. if there is an issue during the sentencing on july 11th, that would restrict his freedoms in any way restrict his ability to campaign, is that an issue that the supreme court would see as a something they should review on an immediate basis, we have no idea because we've never seen this before. neil: okay. >> we have really no idea with what the process will be because we've never seen this before. neil: i understand that. but you didn't quite answer my question, remember a ca. sol, can he vote in this election? all the points you both eloquently mentioned, this is a first. i believe the first time we have a presidential candidate who can't go ahead and vote for himself. it is the weird to me, but maybe that isn't the case. is it the case? sol? >> i really don't know the answer to your question. and one of the reasons i don't know is i don't know that he has been convicted. conviction is a term of art. for example, in the federal criminal system you aren't convicted until you're sentenced. neil: okay. >> so i also don't know what the new york law is on, you know, whether felons can vote. so i would, i would assume without having done the research that he can't vote. but, again, it's kind of irrelevant because he can run, and he can hold office as you and i have talked about a before. neil: absolutely. and he's galvanizing others to vote for him right now, regardless of whether he ultimately can or cannot, and that, of course, has resulted in raising a whole bunch of money, better than $53 million, i'm sure a lot more than that, because that was raised in the first 24 hours after these guilty verdicts came down. we're going to be exploring this, the donor as peck, the money aspect, what joe biden is hoping to do and seize on this. but in the meantime, i want to draw your attention to florida right now. this is the starliner getting ready for launch. this has been the beleaguered boeing-nasa a combo that had some mechanical issues, issues with leaky valves and the rest that disrupted the may 6th original planned launch that was delayed 2 hours before launch. it's a crew of 2. this follows from the same launch pad we've seen mercury and gemini and apollo and space shuttle rockets launch as well as elon musk's spacex dragon capsules. it is against dragon that starliner is competing. boeing, as you know, has run into a whole slew of problems with its airplanes and hopes it doesn't expect to rockets. the launch asked expect -- expand to rockets. we're told it's sunny and perfect weather in florida. there are is a rate based on you, with allstate. because you know the right way to save. stop! save with drivewise and get a rate based on you. you're in good hands with allstate. lowe's knows when you need a new appliance, you want it at the right price. that's why this memorial day, we have huge savings on premium kitchenaid appliances. get everything you need to make a statement in the kitchen and on the table. shop lowe's now for great memorial day deals. with so many choices on booking.com there are so many tina feys i could be. so i hired body doubles to help me out. splurgy tina loves a hotel near rodeo drive. oh tina! wild tina booked a farm stay to ride this horse. glenn close?! with millions of possibilities you can book whoever you want to be. that's my line! booking.com booking.yeah neil: all right, we it would you donald trump is raising a whole lot of money off of these guilty verdicts. of course, he'd much prefer not to have the guilty verdicts, but he is certainly raising the dough right now as many in the party galvanize around him is and many outside the a party. that is not to say joe biden isn't hoping to capitalize on the same thing. he, a couple of times, has mentioned the fact that his opponent is a convicted individual. so that is something that he keeps pounding. lucas tomlinson at the white house on how the biden folks are playing all of this. >> reporter: that's right, neil, good morning. the president also calls donald trump a loser recently. the big question, will this conviction help donald trump in a general election, that's a question our own peter doocy asked the president himself yesterday afternoon. >> reporter: do you think this conviction helps trump in the election? >> no. >> reporter: are you worried this could happen to you someday, somebody comes up with some charges and tries to bring you into court after your term? >> not at all. i didn't do anything wrong. the system still work whos. >> reporter: and when trump says you're just trying to bruise him, what do you say? >> reporter: politically. >> reporter: politically. he thinks your pulling the strings behind the scenes, doing all this to help yourself. >> i didn't know i was that powerful. >> reporter: president biden just wrapped up his time with the kansas city chiefs. here's the reaction from the biden campaign. convicted felon or not, trump will be the republican nominee for president, but there is one other certainty. as you read this, donald trump's supporters are fired up and likely setting fund raising records for his campaign. that proved to be very accurate, neil, because 24 hours after the first conviction of a former president of a crime in u.s. history, the trump campaign says it has received $52.8 million in donations and about 30% of those were first-time donors, neil, according to the trump campaign. yesterday the former president said the charges against him were all politically motivated. >> what they're doing right now, winning in the courts because they can't win at the ballot box. so we're going to show them tha. >> reporter: a new poll says roughly 7 out of 10 voters say a guilty verdict will not change their vote, 17 say it will make them less likely to vote for trump and 15 say it'll make them more likely -- 15% -- now former president donald trump will be sentenced on july 11th, just 4 days before the republican convention. neil? 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>> yeah. if you just do the math on it, if you assume an average a contribution of $100, which it's probably lower than that, that's over 000,000 individual -- 500,000 individual contributions. that that's a lot of people out there very upset about this trial and this verdict. in fact, i'm going to be getting on a plane and going to california next week for a fundraiser, and then i'm going to go to las vegas, nevada, for a fundraiser. i'm getting onboard full steam here because this is really outrageous, neil. the man who said in russia show me the man, and i will show you the crime. that's not how we're supposed to operate to. we're supposed to find a crime and then figure out who did the crime. you don't target individuals and then go see what you can find and dig up on them, and that's exactly what what's happened now since 2016 with former president trump, and everyone sees it. the actions that he took were not a crime, the underlying actions. paying his attorney to do a legal settlement is not a crime. what they said was, oh, you incorrectly booked this on your own records and, therefore, that's a crime. the problem was, that wasn't a big enough crime, that was a misdemeanor. so we're going to find something else and say, well, we're going to turn that into a felony, and now we've convicted you on a felony, and that's where we're at today in this country. it's a real dangerous, slippery slope. it's a real problem. and, by the way, to answer your earlier yes on -- question on whether he can vote or not, he can because the way it works in florida is they defer to the state where the felony was, conviction happened. and in new york as long as you're not in jail, you're allowed to vote as a co

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