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>> lawrence: there's a lot going on. the country divided right now. both sides -- i mean, if you are on the trump side and if you are a republican, we are saying we are under attack. no one has ever been able to point to me throughout this entire trial of anybody else that has been indicted and convicted. >> brian: alvin bragg said the opposite we have been doing this since 1930. >> steve: then again alvin bragg did run on going after donald trump. >> brian: do we have any proof of that. >> steve: we have a lot of video. >> ainsley: would you like me to read the statements? [laughter] >> steve: after he was elected alvin bragg's top prosecutors said this was taking too long and they quit. they actually got along to indicting him. >> lawrence: he got reinforcement from the department of justice. >> ainsley: i sued trump over 100 times for his administration's misconduct brought against the trump foundation and held him accountable. 2021 i was the chief deputy attorney general's office we sued the trump administration over 100 times. i know how to litigate him. 2021 he said but what i can say is you look at my record of not just white collar crime generally but specifically with donald trump and people can have confidence that i'm going to go where the facts take me. >> steve: well, of course, it all happens in deep blue new york city. you know, obviously, going in michael cohen had a lot of credibility problems. and that is why the prosecution brought in other people to support him. ultimately, apparently that is what the jury looked at. and given how essentially the judge gave the instructions to the jury, they had to consider all that stuff. and there were certain caveats but, nonetheless, you know, and the former president said the deck essentially was stacked against him and this is proof, he says. >> ainsley: look. it's new york city and our assistant lexy was working out yesterday and she was on the treadmill with all those monitors above the treadmill and she was taking a class, a running class. and she said the whole gym erupted into clapping and laughter when the guilty verdicts came down. and the teacher of the class even said set your treadmills to 3.2 and walk because there were 32 convictions. -- oh 3.4. i'm sorry. 3.4. >> brian: doesn't sound like a class i'm taking. >> steve: 3.4 is too much. let's go 3.2. >> lawrence: lawrence core, the celebrating of a former president being indicted when they know, when they know the way that this was carried out was partisan. and it's not just us that are saying it. it's not just republicans. it's not -- even people president, people saying that i'm not going to vote for donald trump but i feel like this is wrong. this is not the way you go after it. >> brian: there is a couple of things. one thing that the president probably going to talk about is the average donor that poured in yesterday. what about merriam adelson, sheldon adelson hero going to start a super super pac and started with her own $100 million for trump. how about ken ackman who came out and said he was endorsing nikki haley and then said i'm now in with trump. steve schwarzman a partner now in with trump. mitch mcconnell came out and said this case never grum have been brought. you mentioned susan collins now in support. in a way it's unifying. >> ainsley: she is not going to vote for him but she said she didn't appreciate what had happened in the courtroom. the fundraising page online completely crashed yesterday because so many people were logging on to try give donations. >> steve: indeed. so todd blanche, who is donald trump's attorney. >> lawrence: lead attorney. >> steve: obviously going to launch an appeal. and they have got really good things they want to bring up. they asked for a mistrial a couple of times. yesterday they said that michael cohen had perjured himself during the trial. todd was on last night with jesse. and jesse asked him a little bit about looked like team work at the defense table because when donald trump would listen to something and hear something, he would slight slide a note over and ask the team to object. and they did. and as it turns out, it was team work. they worked together. listen to this. >> he knows what he's doing. he jokingly said to us a lot. he wanted to be the litigator. he wanted to come the ones that was actually arguing because he is a smart guy and he knows what is he doing. we made every decision together. there's a lot that's happened over the past year that i think that americans should look very hard at, just the whole way this case was charged. the district attorney says that this type of case is bread and butter, that they do these cases all the time. that is not true. it's just not true. this is a case that the records of president trump's personal records, his personal checkbook from 2017, from 2017 is what he was on trial for. that does not happen all the time. that doesn't happen all the time in manhattan, that doesn't happen all the time in any jurisdiction in this country. and that's fine. that's fine if you want to indict somebody and go after somebody for conduct that happened in 2017. but i think where it becomes problematic for me as a lawyer is don't look me in the eye and say this is bread and butter, we do this all the time that we're treating president trump like we treat anybody else. that's not true. that's not true. >> lawrence: he said something yesterday during that i hadn't heard before if you all remember early on the president was upset about the legal strategy of saying we relied on counsel. he was saying hey, michael cohen set this up, he told me this was legal. i can do that he revealed yesterday and maybe this was reported, that the judge actually said that they couldn't use that as a defense. that he couldn't say he relied on michael cohen. he is his lawyer. he cut the checks. evidence was negotiating. you mean to tell me you can't use that as a defense that you relied on the counsel of your attorney when he admits that he was the attorney handling it all? i found that astonishing. one of the things they are going to bring up in appeal process. >> ainsley: how is this going to effect how you vote in november. there is a poll by pbs, npr and marist. they say 15% were more likely to vote for him in november after the conviction. 17 percent said less likely. but 67 percent said it made no difference to their vote. >> steve: just awash. >> brian: meanwhile if trump is found guilty in a new york trial are you likely to vote for him? among democrats 65 percent said no difference. republicans 64 percent said no difference. so, if trump is found guilty in this trial, are you likely to vote for him? independents said 15% more likely, 11% less likely, 74% -- you know, keep in mind the whole election was decided by 44,000 votes in the battleground states. he beat hillary clinton by 100,000 votes in the battleground states. when you see one or two percent. three percent. don't dismiss it. >> absolutely. it's the margins. let's bring in mike johnson the speaker of the house. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: we were talking about how, ever since the verdict, a lot of money has been coming into the trump campaign and i was just reading in punch bowl that the republican congressional committee you guys raised $300,000 last night which eclipses only the day you were elected speaker and you raised 175,000. so, obviously, you know, angry voters are motivated voters. >> they are, and there is good reason to be motivated, of course, this entire thing is absurd. i'm a lawyer. i was a litigator for 20 years. i was in court with president trump a few weeks ago to see this for myself. what happened there was outrageous. and you are right. the american people see it. this is a purely political exercise, not a legal one. and everybody knows that. they know intuitively it's wrong and they are outraged. i'm in ohio and michigan today, i will be in illinois tomorrow. by the end of this week, i will have been in 115 city and 29 states. i'm telling you guys something is happening out there. people see what is going on. they see that the democrats are so desperate because president trump is crushing joe biden in the polls they see the democrat party on the left so desperate to stop him that they will risk the destruction of our entire legal system to do it that is not hyperbole. we broke records on fundraising platforms we will continue to do it. set up a new website go to support djt.com. that's how us as members of congress are going to stand with whim and defend this and make sure the right verdict is rendered november 5th. that's the american people's verdict. >> lawrence: mr. speaker, if i could get you to put your legal hat back on, not as speaker, but how does this play out? i mean you got the former president. is he going to appeal this. do you think this is going to happen before the election? most analysts say it's not. do you think that the supreme court has a duty to step in since this will impact, you know, the election? i know we want to act like he is just a normal guy. but he is the leading presidential candidate, the voters should know what's going to happen here. what do you see playing out in the legal system? >> well, there is a lot of developments yet to come. but i do think -- i do believe the supreme court should step, in obviously. this is totally unprecedented. and it's dangerous to our system. we have all discussed this before and you all talk about it all the time. this is diminishing the american people's faith in our system of justice itself. and to maintain a republic, you have to have that. people have to believe that justice is fair, that there is equal justice under law. they don't see that right now. and i think that the justices on the court, i know many of them personally, i think they are deeply concerned about that as we are. so, i think they will set this straight, but, it's going to take a while. you are right. the process takes a while to play out. the democrats know that, of course. and they are dragging it out. that was the whole objective. they want to try to bankrupt donald trump. they want to diminish his credibility. and go after his character. they wanted to keep him off the campaign trail, which they were successful in doing for many weeks. now they want to call him the convicted felon. this will be overturned, guys. there is no question about it. it's going to take some time to do it. >> brian: right. go ahead. >> ainsley: thanks, brian. in the meantime the sentencing date is july 11th after the first debate. the two candidates will debate. then there is going to be the sentencing debate. how is that going to effect the rnc? what if there is home confinement. does the convention still happen? does he zoom in on the screen? how does he campaign if he goes to prison? what does that look like? will he be in prison with secret service on election day? >> we're in unchartered waters, right? no there is no prediction against him being elected president even if he is confined somewhere. but i certainly hope that doesn't happen. you know, there is lots of discussion. we talked about it all last night there will be more discussion today about how we might adjust things in the schedule and all of that i will tell you what will happen. i predict this will increase turnout on our side. he will win, decisively. he will become the next president. he was already, as i said, crushing joe biden in the polls. i think as this plays out and people get more and more frustrated about it, i think it will help us and that huge enthusiasm gap that already existed between the trump and biden campaigns will be even wider. people now see donald trump as a symbol of something. is he more than just an individual. he is a sin bowl of fighting back against this government corruption, the deep state, the bureaucracy and all the rest. and we need his leadership in the white house now more than ever. >> brian: just seeing for the last five or six weeks. everything stopped, everyone was watching because the number one story in big and small towns across the country. you wonder the other three cases, the other three indictments, will they see the light of day? no one can say for sure. but, we expect didn't the supreme court to rule on immunity. you have such a rich legal background. what should we all be looking for there? i know what you are hoping for. what are some of the rulings it could have? >> look, i do believe that the court needs to address that clearly. we have to set a standard here. there is a really important principle of immunity for commander-in-chief. i mean, that's always been part of our legal tradition and it makes good sense. you can't have somebody sitting in the oval office worried about some rogue prosecutor somewhere, some soros funded d.a. or some lawyer that's going to come after them for their decisions that principle needs to be made concrete and needs to be expanded. i think this court will do the right thing. because they see the abuse of the system right now. and that's the greatest peril here of all at the end of the day. this transcends donald trump. it's about whether or not the people believe in our institutions, our system of justice. there's nothing larger than that in our system. >> steve: right. and we were talking to mark penn, the very famous pollster a little while ago, mr. speaker, about how this is going to bammer rang on the democrats. but, nonetheless, even though it looks like it's going to boomerang and come back to haunt them, you know, everyday, every minute they can, the campaign is going to refer to him as donald trump convicted felon right until o-i right up until, you know, it's overturned on appeal if it is. >> yeah. and they will still say that after the appeal i'm sure. that's what was the whole objective of this thing. i'm telling you that the people see right through it. i have been all across the country, north, south, east, west. it doesn't matter whether i'm in a whether you state or a red state. people are disgusted by. this they see exactly what is happening. old charges, a tainted judge. i mean, think of it. in the last couple of weeks, they have been apoplectic, they want justice alito to be recused from future cases and proceedings because his wife flew a flag at their house. this judge on this case in manhattan was an open biden supporter. an open, you know, activist. a political activist and no one cared about that. the double standard is clear. everybody sees it. >> ainsley: i was watching alina last night, one of the attorneys for donald trump. she said when the judge, when the verdict was read, he had to put his hand over his mouth. and she said she suspects it's to hide a smile. what's your reaction? >> i wouldn't doubt it. look, i told you i was there on the ground. i saw that banana republic trial going on. these are the things that you expect in third world countries not in the united states. that should never have happened. that judge should have never presided. >> brian: andrew weissman who ran the mullen probe says he has a man crush on the judge. and he thinks that he also recommends that the president get prison because of his violations and the way he talked about the judge. your thoughts? >> it's incredible. the gag order, all of it was -- in my review an unconstitutional restriction on his free speech. set nominee, the republican nominee, one of the major political parties in the country running for president. you cannot do what they did. it should not have been allowed. none of this should have gone forward. the people see right through it. >> ainsley: can i ask one more question? i have had two already. >> lawrence: go ahead. >> ainsley: i want to know from a faith perspective, speaker johnson, what can you tell our country who is disappointed in this ruling and worried about the future? >> look, i was with some big crowds here in four -- three different cities yesterday in ohio. and i told them all the same thing. keep the faith. look, i'm absolutely convinced reagan used to remind us why are the last best hope of man on the earth. he was quoting lincoln in that regard. we have the best system. and even though people try to corrupted it, it is worth preserving. and i genuinely believe. >> steve: you are right. >> god is going to allow us another chance. we will be able to fix this. november 5th cannot get her soon enough. i'm bull issue will on that election cycle. i think people will return us to common sense by putting us back into authority. >> brian: we will finally find out if god is a democrat or a republican. >> ainsley: that's so wrong. >> steve: i heard independent. >> i don't think he cares about the party but he does care about the principle. >> lawrence: mr. speaker, thank you so much for joining us. also a quick programming note the former president will be addressing the nation about what just happened 11:00. so make sure to tune. in. >> ainsley: i'm sorry i took your last question. >> brian: i have a programming note. >> ainsley: forgive me. >> lawrence: i have forgiveness in my heart. >> brian: i have a programming note. >> lawrence: do it. >> brian: carley shimkus is to do the news. >> carley: thank you. >> brian: getting more professional. >> carley: you certainly are. i will take it away. a fox news alert. three people dead, including a police officer and the suspected gunman after a shooting at a minneapolis apartment complex. police say officer jamal mitchell was ambushed while responding to reports of gunfire. he was providing medical care to someone who he thought was injured but that man shot him. officer mitchell was just 28 years old. >> hero, a son, a father, a fiance, and an officer who was so deeply committed to protecting and serving. he would run towards danger when the rest of us would run in the other direction. >> carley: four others were shot including a firefighter and another police officer who is now in critical condition. the bodies of the two missionaries who were killed in haiti last week have been returned to the united states. daisy and natalie lloyd were shot and killed by gang members when they and several children were ambushed at a church. their group's mission director was also killed. the couple's remains reportedly accompanied in an american airlines jet by the u.s. ambassador to haiti, u.s. security. the virginia father who was detained in turks and caicos for having ammunition in his luggage thankfully returned home yesterday. tyler renridge who spent three weeks in jail was released after pleading guilty and paying $9,000 in fines. >> good to be back here. i'm just exhausted and i'm just happy to be back. it's been a roller coaster. i'm thankful for friends, family, representatives involved in trying to help us get back. >> carley: i'm sure it feels great to be in richmond, virginia. the fate of three other americans charged for the very same crime still remains unclear. today is day 11 of new jersey senator bob menendez's corruption trial and a new report is revealing that menendez has enough signatures to run as an independent and defend his senate seat. the democrat is accused of accepting gold bars and cash in exchange for his political influence. is he also charged with acting as a foreign agent for egypt. menendez and his co-defendants have pled not guilty and those are your headlines, guys. >> steve: all right. listen, i live in new jersey. i don't know if he would wins a an independent. >> carley: i think that's a very interesting side bar. >> brian: as long as people don't google him and find out what is he doing during the day. >> carley: or what is hidden underneath his bed. >> brian: honey i you will vote for that guy unless he has gold bars in his closet. unless he has been on two massive corruption investigations. >> steve: yeah, but other than that.

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