Everyone. Im judge Jeanine Pirro come along with harold ford harold ford jr. , jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. Its 5 00 in new york city, and this is the five. Move over, dark brandon, and get ready for meme lord biden. The president s campaign thinks the way to win back young voters is with more internet posts. Joes team put up this job listing, looking for someone to manage daytoday operations and engaging the internets top content and meme pages. Team joe is doing everything they can to make the 81yearold fossil in chief look like Justin Bieber and connect with gen z voters. Sadly, there is not enough memes in the world to make joe look at a younger especially when the candidate himself keeps looking like he escaped a nursing home. And the lackluster candidate is getting lackluster support. The Biden Campaign event in New Hampshire is getting mocked for being sparsely attended. One journalist who covered it saying i am waiting for someone to shout bingo, but leave it to Joe Scarborough to defend bidens Senior Center campaign strategy. Joe biden, its never going to look like beatlemania when joe biden steps off a plane going to an event. Joe bidens joe bidens about normalcy. And by the way, if you dont think thats a winning message in 24, you are not talking to the right voters, who even if they voted for trump in 16, are exhausted now. Judge jeanine and if you cant make joe look young, just try to force people to support him. The ladies of the view are trying to bully Charlamagne Tha God into endorsing the big guy. Charlamagne, now is not the time to sit this one out. Why do you all need us to say this if we dont feel comfortable saying it . Its not that we need you to say it. I think other folks need to hear the reality come i think both candidates are trash. Because but i am going to vote in november, and im going to vote my best interest and im going to vote who i think can preserve democracy. President biden, feels like his base is pretty pissed off at him. Help him out. Dana jeez. Judge jeanine what do you think why is there such a difference, dana, ill go to you first come in terms of young voters . It was historic in terms of their support for joe biden, and now, i think it was 24 points in 2020, and now i think it is just four points. Its the same candidates. Dana remember, they were most enthused about barack obama, and he brought them what they believe was hope and change and they loved it, they would crawl over a glass for him, they would have done anything. And then 20, okay, we really want Bernie Sanders but since barack obama told Bernie Sanderf there and biden the nominee, fine. Now they are looking at all of the issues and they are just not there. When Richard Fowler was here yesterday, he agreed that the most enthusiastic that the biden voters are right now is for the feeling of apathy. So they are enthusiastic about not being a part of it, which is why biden needs to do this classified ad to say, hey, we need somebody to create some memes for us to get it going on the internet. The thing about trump is his meme game is excellent but he does not have to hire people to do it, he has good people who are doing it, but his fans are doing it for him. Sometimes that gets him into trouble, okay, but the fans are doing it for him, his voters are doing it for him, and that gets viral and you dont have to pay for that. So the kind of earned media biden know my present truck is getting not just from what he says and does, but then he will go and do a rally. When i read the New Hampshire journal story about joe bidens appearance yesterday, i would have thought it was written by one of you guys. I was like, it is so funny to me that they are sitting here saying, is joe bidens voters, are they still practicing social distancing . Thats how few people were at a Campaign Event that was supposed to be a way to get enthusiasm from people there. The campaign is suspending time that they dont have. You have two things in a campaign, lets just say, money and time. The biden team is spending time they dont have on things like that and it is actually pulling them backwards into more apathy. Judge jeanine well, then the question, jesse, is what do they do, given the fact that losing the youth vote, how do they make up for that loss . You got Charlamagne Tha God saying im not going to vote for him, or he may ultimately say they are both trash. How do you make up for that . Jesse you do everything we have been telling him to do and make it work in the next seven months, judge, its too late. Everything is locked in. And the reason you have to be good at memes is there has to be something fundamentally underneath the meme to make it stick. Trump is good at golf and biden trips, so then they have trump hit a five iron and it hits biden and he falls. Or trump, ask him how are you going to pay the bond . He turns around and goes, cash. You have him hugging the american flag. You have him putting his hands on the globe with all of the arabs. Those are those moments that just, they are so sticky. You dont even need to make a meme out of that, the meme makes itself. Memes are fun. There is nothing fun about joe biden. And he never says anything. He never does anything. So there is nothing to work with. If he was going to meme, i would say lean into the tyrant. I would say, what are you doing on wednesdays . Oh, you are free . I would say, im going to lock you up, how are you going to look in the prison jumpsuit, donald . Thats the only way joe biden can pull off the meme game. Now as far as the New Hampshire event, and you do any event like that, the basic people that are coming, you are two state senators, maybe half a dozen state legislatures, and you have your volunteers. So thats about 20 people. There were about 30 people there, judge. So they cant get ten more people than the people that have to be there. Judge jeanine right. Jesse we could say the five is going to New Hampshire tomorrow, we could get 3,000 people tomorrow. This is the president of the united states. I dont see it happening. Judge jeanine all right, some breaking breaking news here. Nikki haley says she will be voting for donald trump. Harold, what say you . Harold thats good news good to be back, hope everybody had a good weekend. I wasnt here yesterday but i do have a good weekend. I think it is great donald trump, thats a good thing. You look at that map where she was securing a lot of votes come anywhere from 15 to 20 10 to 20 and closed primaries, that was important and it also suggests maybe she is open to being the vp. But let me get to your question. Lets concede upfront, neither trump nor biden, we had a segment last week on being cool. Neither of them are cool or hip, lets get that out. Number two, it is not uncommon in campaigns, i think, to try to figure out the best way to communicate with voters. Memes were not around, a lot of technology was not around when i was in congress and was running for reelection, even when i ran for the senate, which is almost 20 years ago now. So things are changing. So hiring somebody to do that, i get pier where i agree with jesse, wholeheartedly, is that joe biden is going to have to learn to campaign a little unconventionally. I so i poll today, to danas point about ago, trump has narrowed the margin in new york to Single Digits in some poll between he and biden. We were not laughing, but i was not taking it seriously when President Trump had the big rally, i think he might have misrepresented, based on my sources at that rally in new jersey, they had 100,000 people, whether it was 30,000 or 100,000, the polling data shows that things are tightening. If you are biden, why dont you just fly out one morning and go to Charlamagne Tha Gods show, call in, do something unexpected, which i think is what you were suggesting, something unconventional. Something unconventional, and not just the staid old things that they are doing, which i dont think are working quite as well as they want. Now i think some of the polling, the New York Times siena polls, i think you have to listen to these polls come i dont think their dispositive of the campaign are the elections going to end, but i think it is important to understand who they are polling and what the mood of the country is because i think at the end of the day, this president ial race is a vibe race. Depending on how the secure people feel, depending on what the number one issue is, is that abortion . Is a border . Is it still the economy and inflation . How people feel starting in october when early voting starts and whatever number of debates we are going to have happen, that person will be the winner of this election. I think it is too early to call. I think it is going to go back and forth but one thing is clear, biden needs some different kind of Campaign Tactics and style to really impact and resonate with more voters, particularly young voters. Judge jeanine greg, one of the things harold says as may be joe biden not to jump on a plane and fly to Charlamagne Tha Gods radio show. What did he have to be funny there . He could hurt himself more than help himself. Greg yeah, somebody else would have to pack that parachute. I want to piggyback on what jesse was talking about, the memes. People what is a meme . Is a singular combination of words and images that go viral paired why do they go viral . Its a visual punch line. You get it instantly. It has a greater significance than trump or biden because memes can actually change the way you think by exposing unspeakable truths. You know we meme when it works because you get it. The left cannot meme because you need instant recognition of an obvious truth that makes you laugh, and the left traffics in the opposite, right . The left takes an obvious truth and obstructs it to a point where it is an academic exercise in relativism. Its why there are millions and millions of memes about weird men identifying as women. When you get the meme, its obvious and its hysterical. There are no memes to refute that because that would require everything but the obvious tr truth. Politics and ideology. The memes about biden, the memes about crime, the memes about immigration and inflation explode online because they say the immediate truths that the left usually want to silence pete memes get around the tv gatekeepers, right . You can have Lawrence Odonnell go on forever about rebalancing. A meme will come in and poke that whole and it deflates. Memes can speak for themselves. Great example is lets go brandon. Why was that an enduring meme . Because it was based on an obvious truth about a liberal live. They werent saying lets go brandon they were saying f joe biden but because the left said it was lets go biden the meme became a natural, obvious truth. Well take it. Lets go, brandon. And the reason why i say this could change the way you think, and a lot of times, it takes something to punch you in the face with an obvious truth. Its like when youre dealing with trans and they show a large, strapping man beat a woman by, i dont know, 100 links, you need a meme that says, cut the b. S. , you know what this is. The left cannot do that because of their whole argument is they deconstruct truth. Truth does not exist. Dana can i mention one thing on that before we go back to nikki haley . Its like the memes have become what would have been a Great Television political ad in the 80s. Wheres the beef . Right . And everybody knew exactly what that meant, there was no policy behind it, and therefore that was falling apart, right . So the meme becomes one of those things where you can also shoot it around. 20 think it is funny . You sent it to your friends and people who might disagree with you. Its the most free media you can get in a campaign if it works well. To be what i have a really good one about Michelle Obama i will show you in the break. Judge jeanine before we go to the break, dana, what do you think of nikki haley finally supporting donald trump . Dana i admire her for many reasons. One of them is that when she decided, it was obvious she was not going to win and trump was going to become the nominee, she went home. She did that entire campaign without her husband being here because he was deployed. He is part of the reserves. And she waited, he got home, they have had time to gather, she had quiet time with her family, which is what she said she wanted, and she just waited a little bit, and i admire somebody who doesnt feel like they have to fill the silence all the time. She is now the chairman of the hudson institute, which is a really great Foreign Policy think tank, and really, i think, great for her Leadership Style and something she really cares about, which is Foreign Policy, so making this announcement today, we are about five weeks before the republican convention, as peoples minds start to focus but i wrote down one thing. She said many times in that primary, we are not running against biden. We are running against kamala harris. With the implicit being that biden wont make it for another four years. Thats what she was saying. So i wonder if President Trump will start to pick up on that a little bit because he definitely goes after biden a lot. Not so much harris. Maybe this is a way to try to get the party to all come together nancy if they want to. Right now the polls are so good for President Trump. Close in the swing states, but close like that if i were biden, i would be nervous. I listen today with axelrod and a couple of others, they have the actual bedwetting episode, it was pretty interesting. Judge jeanine coming up, aoc just gave away the lawfare game and proved donald trump are right. Heres to Getting Better with age. Heres to beating these two every thursday. Help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need. Without the stuff you dont. So, heres to now. Boost. 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Is hosting a rally to try to con people and try to fleece them out of every dollar that they have to fund some legal feeds, and by the way, he is doing it in the south bronx, not to make a point, but because hes got court, and the man practically has the legal version of an Ankle Bracelet around him and he cant leave the five boroughs because he always has to be in court. And so it is truly an embarrassment to him. Greg there she goes. And the tallest fbi director in history is back. James comey warning that if trump wins, the party will be over for the bureau. Serious, for the Justice Department and the fbi, because trump is coming for those institutions. He knows their power and i think he has regrets that he didnt work hard enough to correct them last time, so he is coming for them, and thats a danger for all americans. Hes going to put people in positions in those organizations. He didnt have all stars last time. The bottom of the barrel this time. People who want to do his will. That should worry every american. Greg ugh. Judge, lets address that first. Trump is a danger to these institutions. Coming from comey. Judge jeanine coming from comey, who took an unverified dossier, lied to a fisa court judge, then lied again and reupped that document, and then spied upon a president ial candidate and then president , jim comey, cardinal comey, he wants you to believe he is, and the amazing part is he goes to advise donald trump, the new president , that you know there is this dossier, so he can turn around and leak it to cnn and get it out there publicly. In the most incredible thing is, he is the guy, jim comey, who decided that he would take over the position of the Attorney General that is the head of the fbi, go out and say there is not enough evidence, to indict hillary clinton. Why does he say that . Not his job and his position. He is as corrupt as they come here ill do you one more with them. In addition to that, he is the guy who closed the southern of the clinton foundation. I was the d. A. Working with this office and i was the d. A. Greg you know, harold, i was shocked in the green room when you said to me, it touched me, you said if you can see with your own eyes what they are willing to do to their legal system to win an election, can you imagine what they are doing to the other systems behind our backs to win an election . And i say hear, hear, harold. Harold you have just an impeccable memory for things that i do not say. Its an unbelievable. I was curious to hear the congresswoman say what she said. I dont know, i think you take people at their word, maybe she thinks the legal issues that the president is dealing with are not more than the Ankle Bracelet. And if that is the case, i do think you feed some of the things that have been said. I do think this matter in florida is more serious than the others but that is beside the point. The popularity that President Trump continues to enjoy, even with these legal issues, should suggest to democrats that whe