Where does the white house stand this hour and is the Biden Administration going to push our closest middle east ally into brokering some kind of a deal . Lets bring in brent souther. He joins us with his thoughts on the current breaking news. You had a guest on earlier that is calling thats what it is. Its a ruse. Its a gamble by hamas right now to buy for more time into set up for political circumstance. No matter what happens, israel goes in or israel delays, they still make israel look like the aggressor in this case. Anything is further from the truth. It is only delaying the inevitable destruction of hamas. John we had senator John Cotton On and he looked back at the world war ii experience. There is Unconditional Surrender by germany. Unconditional surrender by japan. Why isnt President Biden calling for an Unconditional Surrender by hamas and a release of all the hostages . End of the war right then and Work Together with the arab nations on putting the pieces back together again because as long as hamas is there, israel is not going to stop. A couple of interesting points on this. Behind all of the atrocities of october 7th, its really a hand of iran thats been behind this. And irans efforts the last few months have rallied arab countries to start to support israel in the exchange of missiles between the two countrys, israel and iran recently. Theres an opportunity here for a new awakening in the middle east that is favorable for israel. Iran wants nothing of the kind so getting at that is really important. Thats trying to find lasting peace and thats what we should be after. The sooner hamas is destroyed and out of gaza, the more likely that becomes. Gillian and perversely, regimes like iran and china are not just offering support to hamas as allies in the region, they are offering support to the people that are promoting their interests here at home. They are publicly throwing support behind the Student Protesters were calling for death israel. For students that are being expelled, thats the best place for them to go with ideology unless they wake up. The administration right now finds himself in a situation where they are relying on an unsavory electric that is aligned with hamas and they cant seem to get out of their own way and support what is right and that is the end of this war. Israel is an ally and has a lot of american interests on our side to see that they end up being victorious. Let me go back to the point you were making earlier about around. They want to keep the instability going and gaza. What happened a few weeks ago prove that iran literally cannot lay a glove on israel despite how much it throws at them. I still dont understand why the buying administration isnt saying they are a toothless tiger. Lets help israel get rid of hamas and then we will rebuild the west bank and gaza to the best of their abilities to see if there can be some sort of peaceful coexistence between them. Speak out thats the Nightmare Scenario that is playing out right now and that is that the proxy is starting to fill up or go their separate ways because the longer that this goes on, the weaker hand is in places like yemen and in southern lebanon. Iran is starting to see and may be behind some of the recent hamas looking for a way out but unfortunately as long as there is protests and the perception that the American Leadership is weak, i dont see any quick solution. Gillian i asked senator cotton a question last hour that i want to circle back to with you. That is hamas aside for a moment here. Is there a way that the Biden Administration and the israelis can, working together, strategically on the ground move forward with this Ground Invasion and rafa that the israelis say is absolutely necessary and also do something to try and protect the 600,000 children that are there reportedly from getting spun into that scared more of them getting injured or killed. Obviously without ceding ground to hamas. Speak of the unfortunate thing is this is a highly concentrated population in rafah and gaza at large. There is not going to be any antiseptic or clear and easy solution for this. Its going to be bloody, thats been known since the beginning since hamas launched the atrocities on october 7th. And everything in between is just drawing out suffering. What israel has been doing, it seems to be maybe trying to mitigate some of the Human Suffering that will come and that is setting out camps to the east of rafa and trying to get the palestinians out of there in a controlled manner but again, you have one and half million that are supposedly still there and you only have room for 100,000 or so right now that are being asked to leave. Its still a very large problem and a lot of bloodshed is still very likely but again, the longer this goes on, the suffering is prolonged longer and it makes it less likely that lasting peace is achieved. John there is a tiny sliver of land between rafah and israel into gaza. Lets not forget at the same time as we wrap is that hamas is feeling a lot of pressure because qatar said if you dont get to a ceasefire, you have to leave. They want jordan in hand and jordan said forget it we are taking you in. They are feeling the pressure. Thank you. We appreciate it. Lets go back to Jacqui Heinrich at the white house. State department has said nothing about the deal. What do you get from the white house . Nothing. We have been trying for over an hour now to get something on the record. Broadly, i have spoken with several officials and they are hesitant to say anything on the record because right now they are really working with israel to figure out what hamas is agreeing to, if it is aligned with the kinds of parameters that the u. S. Has put out there for a ceasefire proposal which has to include release of hostages and more aid. It sounds like from the state Department Briefing one of the sticking points could potentially be hamas desire to have israel not have a presence at all in gaza and from the statements they have been putting out, it sounds like hamas has said we will agree if you continue to let us live on and let hamas continue to survive and exist and the u. S. Has put forward, even though we have opposed publicly israels plans for a full scale operation in rafah without Mass Evacuation and things that weve heard before, you heard Matthew Miller interestingly enough say that the u. S. Has proposed a more limited operation and israel has the backing of the u. S. To go forward with that and not hearkens back to what the president s first reaction was after october 7th which was if this was happening to the u. S. We would respond swiftly and decisively and we would eradicate the threat and hamas cannot continue to exist. There wont be a twostate solution that involves hamas serving any Political Party so that may be what we are watching playing out. Hamas agreeing to something that really does not have the backing of the u. S. Or israel and is not one of the proposals that has been endorsed. We will wait in here in the White House Briefing what they are able to say. I would expect it will be largely in line with what we heard at the State Department because they said they are working right now with partners to understand whether this is acceptable in any way. You had bill burns in the region trying to break this impasse that has happened over the past couple of days and you notice that this morning, the president and netanyahu had a 30 minute phone call and the hesitation from anyone in the u. S. Government to comment on the statement when it first came out as a very good indication that the u. S. Believed nothing was imminent. We will find out more hoarsely shortly. Gillian this is julia. Have you heard anything since thursday, friday when we first learned that the Biden Administration was considering ringing palestinians, potentially thousands of them from gaza to the United States as refugees. Any updates or more information you are gleaning from your sources . Nothing yet but we know that any deal to bring palestinians to the u. S. Would be complicated because it would require cooperation from egypt. Egypt has not until now been eager to take in any refugees and it would also require that the u. S. Deem those Palestinian Refugees are fleeing persecution which would put the u. S. In a very difficult spot because we would have to say and some official capacity that israel is persecuting palestinians which something that the u. S. Has not said. It has not bought into the idea that israel is conducting a. They are conducting a Military Operation to eradicate a terrorist organization that killed more than 1,000 civilians and broke a lasting ceasefire that was in existence up until october 7th. That would be a very tough pill to swallow but obviously there is a struggle and the invited men to administration when you see the public reaction especially within the president a spirited pressure on him to do more for the palestinians in gaza and to curtail some of the support that the u. S. Has given israel until now. We will see what happens. John we are looking forward to the White House Briefing with john kirby coming up. We will let you get inside for that. Thank you. Gillian hamas now says it has agreed to a ceasefire deal. We are waiting for reaction from the Biden Administration as jackie just mentioned. Hamas also as of now not confirming they actually agreed to any of the terms in the proposed ceasefire deal. Gillian stomach spewing testimony about to resume in 5 minutes time. The judge threatening the former president with jail time. Our legal panel all of next on the latest developments. There is no smoking gun here and the most important thing to remember aside the fact that the president is presumed innocent is that the prosecution has cobbled this case together with duct tape. Bigg hidden fees, surcharges. Who knows what to expect turn shipping to your advantage. Keep it simple. With clear, upfront pricing. With usps ground advantage®. Introducing, neds plaque psoriasis. 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Get started for 49. 99 a month plus ask how to get up to an 800 prepaid card. Dont wait call today. John fo former President Trumps criminal trial set to resume any minute now in new york city. We expect the defense asked to continue crossexamination of the onetime controller jeff mcconney. The judge ruled that trump violated his gag order for a tenth time now and threaten to throw the former president in the slammer if that continues. Nate foley is live at the new York Supreme Court in new york city. If you wanted to add 510 points to the president s popularity, go ahead and throw him in jail. You can bet a lot of people will feel that way, john. Former President Trump has complained about the gag order while walking into court today. He just walked in for the Afternoon Session and did not speak to reporters. It remains to be seen who will be the next witness on the stand after jeff mcconney, the former controller that you mention who testified this morning. He took questions from both former President Trumps lawyers as well as the prosecution and he detailed payments to Michael Cohen including from President Trumps personal account. He said the signed checks to the white house but it did not show that trump was aware of any scheme to reimburse them for payments to Stormy Daniels. He maintained that he thought the payments were legitimate Legal Expenses. He testified he never spoke to trump about the Michael Cohen payments. He didnt know what they were for. During the crossexamination he said negative stories about trump were bad to for business which provides another possible motivation for trump that is unrelated to politics. It comes after hope hicks testified on friday that trump was very much concerned about his family rather than his campaign. As you mentioned before the break, judge one for sean threatened trump with jail time if he continues to violate the gag order. Merchan held him in contempt of comment that he previously made about the jury. He find another 1,000 for that but he said its clear fines are not working and he will consider jail time in the future. Judge merchan said the magnitude of that decision is not lost on me. Again, former President Trump just walked back into the courtroom. The Afternoon Session should be beginning momentarily. Back to you john. John thank you. Jillian. Gillian for more on the trial, lets bring in attorneys mike i clark, jonna spilbor, and leo terrel. Thank you for being with us. Lets get the reaction for the Headline News of the day which is judge merchans threat to throw trump in jail. Yet another one. Im feeling like this is watching groundhog day because every day that the trial resumes we have a witness that gets trotted up who testifies to nothing that has to do with any sort of crime. We have somebody within the d. A. s office scouring the internet for any tiny violation of this Nebulous Unconstitutional Gag Order and then we have judge merchan channeling his Inner Napoleon Complex to threaten the former president with more jail time for violating the unconstitutional gag order when what he should be doing, this judge, is taking a cue from all of the legal pundits and perhaps people in his own world to modify this gag order while the trial continues because it is unconstitutional and at some point once this trial ends, those chickens are going to come home to roost and this will come back to bite this judge. John in terms of chickens roosting, leo i would expect if judge merchan were to make good on this threat and throw trump in jail, he would probably take in 15 million in campaigns funds overnight and it would be the worst thing that could ever happen to President Biden. You are absolutely right. He mentioned he would go up seven or eight points in the polls. I disagree with you with 15 million. Its more like 50 million if he throws trump in jail. Trump will turn this into a fundraising bonanza. But you look at what happened today. Today the prosecution took a step backward. You put on a case to try to convince the jury that there is a case. This witness is it denying any existence between President Trump and any connections to any misconduct. He has no knowledge. What does the prosecution accomplish today . Zero. This case is a loser and i will tell you right now sooner or later they will have to bring in Michael Cohen to the Witness Stand and i can tell you right now that the Trump Defense team knows everything about him. Expect Michael Cohen to be on that stand for three to four days. Gillian till leos point. I want to pick up on something and if i sound ignorant, correct me. When the prosecution here makes the case that trump falsified documents, official documents in order to interfere in the election, do the two go hand in glove . Do they does the prosecution need to pro