This afternoon and Martha Maccallum and is the story. Is breaking at the same time in a few locations right here in New York City. On this block in manhattan inside the courthouse President Trump is inside the room and he is battling the judge over gag orders, listening two hours of hours of testimony about the check and who who signed the check. We will go there live in minutes with an update from the courtroom but meanwhile uptown all hell broke loose. Students broke the windows, jammed open the doors then lock the doors, there are no occupying the Columbia University building which is named for founding father Alexander Hamilton as the university continues essentially to just put another statement but theyre not really doing anything. Theyre saying they will do something which theyve been since the beginning. Is unbelievable. Have shut down these protesters every Single Administration plea. How is this happening . And where does this and back . [chanting] [chanting] martha unbelievable, right . There still in their calendar just getting peters soul smack pulley system to bring them and remember not showing any signs of leaving there maybe one of my they say they want to stay threw Graduation Sodium several weeks ago when they plan to be holed up in the Administration Building back of got laura ingram is here in a moment there congresswoman Elise Stefanik bernard lewall, correspondent Alexis Mcadams life with is in the middle of his case and we begin with shannon. Afternoon. Good to see you. I just as they were talking with Keith Davidson who is an attorney who represented both Karen Mcdougal and Stormy Daniels primitive talking about how deals came together for Karen Mcdougal with ami the publisher of the National Enquirer and it turns out she has made states treatment publicly she didnt really want to go out there and tell her story about trump that she had loved him, that she voted for empirical all of these things and request as a way to relaunch her career. There would be Magazine Articles and coverage that would allegedly part of part of this but my brother writes her story and the language was essentially that they had the rights to any romantic or physical relationship that she had had with a married man and hes davidson on the stand has testified that he understood that to be donald trump. Know hes just a talk about how Stormy Daniels was a client of his and how it came to be that there were conversations about information leaking out, a blog post that connected her to some kind of physical relationship or allegation of one with President Trump and nah a coven has entered the conversation. So we heard from cohens bakker this morning know your hearing from Keith Davidson about these deals coming together but no one has connected President Trump to being a part of these deals are aware of these deals on any of the medications about the deals which means it involves to make a coherent disorder of be the linchpin for this whole thing. I was a different interview of him and say hes been a proven liar, there are courts have called him that and hes going to be the guy eventually they will take a stand to try to link these deals altogether. Martha shannon, thank you very much. Go back there as news breaks from the courthouse this Afternoon Waiting for publicly and a couple of hours so on the other side of this when he leaves but lets go live not to Columbia University were refined correspondent Alexis Mcadams was a situation there very well. Shes been there live over the last several days. Huh so the schools seeing the students broke in to the building will now be expelled. The group of protesters with their faces covered filming and they smashed the windows. So why did they do this if there is land or the vacuum according to these groups on social media they said they wanted to liberate this building and they show the university they think that theyre not afraid of what they believe or ongoing empty threats of suspension and being expelled. In the next step here according to the administration and president s Minouche Shafik who gets growing calls for her to step down she says these kids are now going to be expelled. And one br graduation but they didnt cut it so theyve now renamed these protesters according to them from Hamilton Hall to hence however 6yearold Palestinian Girl who was killed in gaza . Ago and you can check it out there on the Screen Displays have been there for hours so hungry i guess calendar pulling in suppliers or pulling in food. Theyre taking over that hole and it continues but the nypd has not had any calls to help clear the students just yet mack mason. Martha alexis just hang on for one second this is Police Moving closer to some of the barricades and some of these barricades see the students moving forward with them, pushing the police back at umc and you can see how this can situation gets tense but at the moment were not seeing any arrests. We have been seeing a number of arrest yesterday afternoon but this is the scene at chapel hill this afternoon where there seems to be a little bit of push between the police and the students on campus as a sort of create their own barriers and where they are willing to see them moving forward in the Police Moving back, yelling at the police from this one so obvious he will keep a close eye on this. Now theyre Spraying Teargas at these students and you can see them turning around, covering their eyes because this is a standoff green bullies and students at Unc Chapel Hill. So they are states spraying them at this point in their sort of divinely moving forward. Well keep a close eye on the situation. List ringette over to alexis was speaking with a student at columbia. Alexis . Martha uccm like that at been observed Carolina Chapel Hill and then you come here to New York City restaurant David Pomerantz is a soccer are here. Is not having her grandmother nypd are not moving because the school hasnt called them to. Using others point out these are what happened inside of that Hamilton Hall that the nypd to move in . Absolutely. Have an oblation to last night, i called nypd as alerting them that an ongoing right was in process, students were being assaulted a group of mobsters had taken hammers to destroy the windows and you just show your viewers for the nypd has no obligation to show up and resolve this. Whos in charge here . A student if you like your you walk on campus or the president s, Minouche Shafik . What you think has the power . Last night it was certainly not Minouche Shafik, it was the mob. Ahmad was in charge, tomato there was no Public Safety presence at, call for the police went unheeded, Minouche Shafik has to do her job and bring order to this campus. Its out of hand. You think she should step down . Shes given the Student Protesters quite a lot of transit here. Jerk there still hear another inside the building bringing in pizzas. What needs to happen . Yeah, i think its a good conversation to be had but in the meantime while she still has a job she has to be doing more. She tried to negotiate with these individuals, she allow these illegal incumbents to fester and go on and on for weeks after weeks. As you know any other universities is being handled very differently. The police are coming immediately and cleaning about it emboldens them at least what we saw last night. Definitely, thank you very much. Martha thats what were hearing from a lot of students here got a lot of the jewish threats dont feel safe martha he makes a lot of sense that he expects there new. President joe biden is getting over is apparently comes occupied Protest Buildings Laura Ingram is here, w. With us, because of the ingram angle. Alexis, thank you very much. You know, celeste dul and, laura welcomed the ocala students called and this is what it would take to trigger in were Police Presence on campus because they said if someone called and said there is a crime taking place here there would be able to come on the compass so they called and said theres a right happening, theyre breaking in to the building but it looks like they held back. What do you make of the stands today . Lets think of it this way martha. If this were a group of America First, maga, prolife students that were just kind of stand up we what was going on in the country and they had pulled 1100th of distance that some of these folks have pulled on campus, there will still be sitting in jail, they probably would be, you know, looking at real jail time. And this thing wouldve been dealt with. But when i was listening to the great reporting from alexis and the conversation, i was looking at the Board Of Trustees of Columbia University. The individuals that are charged with the governance of Columbia University. They have lots of highpowered headers on this board including the former dhs chief jay johnson. People like journalist claire shipman. Other really big deal business folks. They cannot be happy with what they are seeing at the university that there it already has and it seems like thats what they want here. By dr frankensteins monster is coming to devour them thats what were seeing. Martha i mean these markers have been laid down yesterday at 2 00, they were definitely going to expel is ridiculous. Martha is so feckless this process its like a parent who says or you can have any ice cream, you know, or will you can have any more extreme. Absolutely loses leadership one 01. If you say youre going to do something you better be ready to move at 2 00 in that what you say youre going to do. There cleaning running this whole situation. What about the people like jerry nadler and Chuck Schumer and the leadership democrat leadership in new york. I look back at what jerry nadler sent about the january 6d the explicit racist and antisemitic tone of the attack on the capitol is deeply disturbing and he was very upset the Department Of Justice wasnt going after more people. Where is he now . Well of course this is an adapter for them politically. They know it. So they think that they can kind of back away for from it quietly, on them and the antisemitism and social media posts of the short of, you know, short of them getting to campus and demanding that the Board Of Trustees removed the president and that this thing gets handled immediately, frankly conever it is worth anything. We saw what they did after charlottesville i had a very, very vocal response to that, that became the raison detre for biden to run for the presidency. So It Charlottesville was the reason to run for the presidency, what is this . Martha we were shocked at he was shocked at that time depends on antisemitism that he saw that i wanted to run for the presidency because of another required from all these individuals. Martha i would say back to the video that we we were starving chapel hill, you see that dynamic mack you had one or two students, it wasnt a record or rethink but one or two threats at least from what i saw and the police were backing up. Thats just ridiculous. Why either backing up . They should move in, were not and do that and say look if you want to protest thats fine but you cant disrupt campus and other kids have to be able to go to class and, you know, were all for the First Amendment but this is obviously way out of hand. Martha and one of them pulled out to guess which was one of the Police Officers and prayed but they look like they were on their heels, you know. You were going backward. Martha exactly. Not go. Martha laura, thank you so much. Will see tonight on the angle, who thinks working with sp1 takers before a short time ago House Republicans announcing a probe in that holding School Administration is accountable for antisemitism and College Campuses saying there is no place for this in the United States and that there has to be some sort of pushback on all of this. House gop Conference Care chair Elise Stefanik is part of this moment when all of this go back to this moment because when all of this was really wrapping up. Watch. Calling for the genocide of jews violates Harvard Rules of bullying and harassment . Yes or no . It can be depending on the context. Whats the context . Targeted as an individual, targeted as an individual. Its targeted at jewish students. Jewish individuals. You understand your testimony is dehumanizing them . Martha new york argus woman Elise Stefanik joys we know shes a member of the committee on education and workforce. Congresswoman gaddafi with us today. Thank you very much for joining us today. I wonder, did you think or hope at that point that those exchanges would lead to a stronger hand on these campuses . And what do you think about what happened . Absolutely. The whole in those hearings was to highlight the importance of our universities to protect jewish students and who strongly and clearly condemn antisemitism. We had seen the exact opposite in the case of both harvard and pain while precedents were forced out because of their morally bankrupt answers to my question in that historic hearing. We have not seen those schools step up to protect jewish students. Then, of course, we had the Columbia University student hearing with precedents shafik were clearly was the strategy was say whatever you have to get to go through the hearing to try to avoid the fate of the penn and harvard president but yet their actions they werent taking any action on campus to protect jewish students, to address the rise of antisemitism and now you see president shafik this feeling instead of standing up for safety and security on campus, instead of showing moral leadership. They have allowed the pro hamas mom to violently take over the historic hamilton home named after Alexander Hamilton so our schools a crisis across the looking at federal dollars, looking at the foreign Student Visas that looking at foreign funding, making sure that we are standing up for u. S. Taxpayers who find many of these institutions are so much work to. Martha is a great point. Terms of these foreign Student Visas if students are arrested and the pulleys figure out that they are here an excellent reason, should they be reported . Yes. Absolutely this should be deported. To stay a step back martha these are i dont call them protesters, they are pro hamas members of a mob or calling for the eradication of israel after calling for genocide against jews around the world and in america. It is unthinkable that we are allowing this to happen at u. S. Universities. Were supposed to be the moral leader in our University President s have absolutely failed and you know who else has failed . The professors who instead of standing up for academic integrity and moral leadership are supporting these University President s while become a part of this twenties and the somatic not only verbal harassment but the behavior. So yes actually be deported. Martha this is a pretty slippery slope. Where does this and back . Of the University Stands became he already caved theyre already caving but, you know, thats a signal, right, is a signal to iran, its a signal to israel about u. S. Support for israel overall. Yes, and people around the world are watching grandmother is a reason why the testimony of the harvard penn and mit precedents was the most viewed testimony in the history of United States congress with over 1 million views in a week and there was just within views in america there were views around toronto these universities need to step up and theyre fighting to do so so congress is going to stop and because remember martha billions of dollars in hardearned Taxpayer Dollars go to support these universities in america taxpayers dont want to support antisemitism. They oppose antisemitism and we know that we are going to continue to stand up for whats morally rig