that bond he must post. the former president on truth social saying that he will post the amount set by the appellate division in the last hour. in a statement from the 5-judge panel, basically cutting down the bond that the former president must put up by more than 60%. as you know and we have been reporting, new york state attorney general letitia james had been ordered basically to potentially start enforcing that $454 million bond. that amount, set by judge arthur engoron in the real estate fraud trial. that the appellate court has cut that down to $175 million if the former president puts that up in the next ten days, and we've heard the former president through his truth social post say that he will indeed do that. there are other defeats for attorney general james in this decision also. the judge had ruled that the former president cannot do business in new york state, and trump executives are barred from doing business. the appellate court judge has also struck that down, so this morning a major victory for former president trump from the appellate court. we do expect that he will be able to post that $175 million bond. that means that attorney general james will not be able and will not move forward to try and seize any of trump's properties or any of his cash and other assets in order to try and satisfy that $454 million bond. he does not have to do that now. if he puts up that $175 million, which we do expect. it's a bit of a different story in the manhattan criminal court behind me dealing with the hush money trial, dealing with stormy daniels, mr. trump charged with 34 cans of business fraud, basically, for allegedly funneling money to the porn star through his former fixer, michael cohen. his attorneys are seeking to again delay this criminal trial once again, but it seems like the judge is not having any of that. the issue this morning has to do with the hundreds of thousands of pages, a hundred thousand or so, that the defense turned over to the state dealing with michael cohen, but the judge says only a few hundred and does not know why the defense has not been able to comb through that over the last few weeks. the judge did delay this trial until april 15th. the feeling here at court right now, harris, is that the hush money trial will likely go on on april 15th, that the judge here will not grant another delay, but we don't have that yet. we will have to see what happens. >> harris: there is so much going on. >> bottom line, a big win for the former president. >> harris: i appreciate you breaking it down. we need to hear about -- many, as well, delayed until april 15th, and we will obviously cover everything that comes out. but that big news this hour is the drop in bond, and we will get to that. you are watching "outnumbered" now. i'm here with my cohost, emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany. also joining us, rebecca heinrichs, and cohost of "the bottom line" on fox business and former wisconsin congressman, sean duffy. great to have everybody here. here's a former president, donald trump, from moments ago. >> [indistinct] >> thank you very much. judge engoron has done a terrible service to the state of new york. what he has done is terrible. businesses are fleeing. just released a statement on truth. businesses are fleeing and crime is flourishing all over the state, and what he has done is such a disservice and should never be allowed to happen again. new york state is being battered by his decision. so i greatly respect the decision of the appellate division, and i will post $175 million in cash and bonds for security or whatever is necessary, very quickly, within the ten days. i think the appellate division are acting quickly, but judge engoron is a disgrace to this country, and this should not be allowed to happen. thank you very much. >> harris: and you hurt a shattered question, we've shown a little bit of that. this was just moments after the decision. this is the fifth time in this case that he has been overturned, a record. his credibility and that of letitia james has been shattered. we will abide by the decision of the appellate division and post either a bond, equivalent securities, or cash. this also shows how ridiculous and outrageous the initial decision was at $450 million. i did nothing wrong, and new york should never be put in a position like this again." so that was truth social, and there's more now because he's posted a couple times. i won't go on too long, but judge engoron as may decision relative to the statute of limitations. this is a confrontation between a judge and those that rule above him, a very bad situation in which to place new york state and the rule of law." kayleigh? >> kayleigh: we have gone over and over and i've been beating a dead horse, that is unprecedented cases. premium is on it presumablyanalyses that ld respect, right? but with each of these cases, they continue to be overturned either in whole or in part. now you have this judgment being reduced. i agree with jonathan turley, it should be zero, nevertheless being reduced. you go down to georgia, fani willis, constant overreach. i encourage viewers to ask yourself, why do you see constant overreach? the only answer you can get to it that these are partisan left-wing actors in the form of letitia james and alvin bragg, and the list goes on. >> harris: sean, i had a different epiphany during the last hour. it's an election year for an incumbent president, so i get it, it is politics. but what are these other people being promised? you got letitia james, attorney general of new york. he would say, arguably, with some things to lose. she is out there gabbin', "going to get trumped." it's not fair in our legal and justice system to behave that way. >> sean: that's a good point, it's not fair, but letitia james is playing to her audience. you have a left-wing political base in new york city, and she won on the fact that she promised to go after donald trump. that was a polygamist. >> harris: but she's still talking x neck >> sean: she delivered on that promise and new yorkers still love it. to the point of $175 million, donald trump, that the win for him. it is still a massive amount of money. what they have done is preserved donald trump's right to appeal by lowering the bond to what he can actually meet. but they are preserving the democrat party. if letitia james was out seizing donald trump's properties, it is over for democrats. i think most americans see the war that has been waged on donald trump, whether in georgia or new york or in florida, washington, d.c. they look at this and go, to kayleigh's point, this is way too much. who does this to the lead presidential candidate? and, by the way, charges we have never seen, victims that aren't there. what the hell are you doing? >> harris: that bond doesn't absolve them from being that hungry, that they stay. it doesn't wipe them away. >> sean: no, it doesn't. but the war on trump is just clouded a little bit, it's going to go to appeal and forestall the inevitable, which again is going to be a massive payout that donald trump is going to have to make in a city that is more about politics and business. >> harris: emily, we showed a little while ago the big trump tower sign on fifth avenue. it's iconic. what does this mean now that james won't be able to rip down the letters of trump tyler? >> emily: at least for a moment i feel that there is -- i don't know, a slight reach toward faith, temporarily in the justice system, or at least it is not as tainted as this whole thing has appeared from the beginning. i would like to carry your ball further and point out how much people in power bend and sway to it they perceive as pressure from those left libs. i want to talk about the chubb ceo. according to their attorneys, chubb was potentially going to underwrite the second bond for them. they would accept liquid assets, real property. where it got, apparently come to the brokers and investors and their customers. cut to the chubb ceo writing a letter to everyone, "i'm so sorry," the typical narrative where, once again, the uproar that ensued from them just being part of, as he said, the plumbing of the criminal justice system. he said, we don't play a part. if we put up bonds, we are not rooting for the defendant. essentially money has no color, money has no side type thing. but oh, lo and behold, he too pulled out because the pressure was too great. what concerns me, as we go into the voting in november, just remember that the people in power are making these decisions because of that pressure, the war on trump. it's the people that have the power ultimately. it is us at the voting booth. please vote that way. >> harris: i said it earlier, rebeccah. people should be angry about the fact that this has been handled in such an unfair way. >> rebeccah: i keep coming back to this idea of, you've got people who are maybe not necessarily sold on donald trump, they've been flagging in their support, and you have this happen and all of a sudden you are galvanizing even the most skeptical people who maybe have voted and supported president trump previously, have gotten tired of all the drama and say, wait a second, this is about the rule of law. this is about laws being applied fairly, and the punishment fitting the crime. i do national security policy, the average american, not a lawyer. so i wanted to know how unprecedented was this money, this amount of money that he was expected to pay. bit coin fraudster sam bankman-fried's bail was $250 million. notorious ponzi schemer bernie made office was set for $10 million. and these were people who had victims and their crimes. so we know that this is because he's running for president, donald trump is running for president, and it signals, as long as you don't go after the democratic machine, you're not going to have a huge penance. >> harris: it makes me think of new york city as somewhat a barrel of crabs. he's going to make it out? they didn't want him to be the one to make it out. the democrats wanted to be the ones on top. letitia james, the attorney general, who said she wanted to get trump, her office has responded to the reduced bond. here's the quote. "donald trump is still facing accountability for his staggering fraud. the court has already found he engaged in years of fraud to falsely inflate his net worth and unjustly enrich himself, his family, and his organization. the $464 million judgment plus interest against donald trump and the other defendants still stands." in what world does it stand? >> sean: well, not in ruth bader ginsburg's world. again, liberal icon. she said that fines can be used to undermine liberties, chill the speech of political enemies, and come as a form of retribution, exactly what happened in here, massive fines to chill the speech of the lead presidential candidate. and letitia james loves it. she has the power to use it and she is exercising it, but the american people look at this and go, way too much. they see right through the lawfare happening to president trump. >> harris: just a couple of extra seconds. you worked with former president trump. what is this day like for him today? >> kayleigh: i imagine it's not a day he ever thought or dreamed he would have to go through. we knew that justice was stacked in one direction, unfortunately, but today i think there's probably a little bit of celebration, and never the less he knows what he's up against. i do think politically, to your point, this has put a tail wind behind him. i saw some pulling today that shows, even with some convictions, the polling is starting to level outcome even with a conviction. a lot of this is baked in and i think people want to be able to afford their houses and bring down the price of groceries. that's what this is about. >> sean: he is not down. he seems angry when he speaks, he's very serious, that he is in great spirits. he's out golfing, having great time, socializing with friends. this is not bringing the man down at all. >> harris: that's how we are different. if i were out golfing, my world would have come to an end, because i'm terrible at it! up next, it was a rough weekend for vice president kamala harris. critics now are going for her. they are really criticizing the vice president for her "shameful warning to israel for blaming republicans for the border crisis." and for this. watch. ♪ ♪ veteran homeowners. if you need cash, the last thing you want to do is spend cash just to see if you qualify for a home loan. yet, some lenders charge you hundreds of dollars in upfront fees just to apply. they keep your money even if they turn you down. call newday. unlike other lenders, at newday there's no upfront appraisal fee, no upfront termite inspection fee and no upfront water test fee. not $1 out of pocket. give us a call. when migraine strikes, you're faced with a choice. accept the trade offs of treating? or push through the pain and symptoms? with ubrelvy, there's another option. one dose quickly stops migraine in its tracks. treat it anytime, anywhere without worrying where you are or if it's too late. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. allergic reactions to ubrelvy can happen. most common side effects were nausea and sleepiness. migraine pain relief starts with you. ask about ubrelvy. learn how abbvie could help you save. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. 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>> emily: "what is your collateral on the bond?" >> harris: and he turned quickly on his heels and said "cash." there were two things going on and i know our screen was a little confusing at the bottom. the first thing was that he was coming out of the courtroom because the hush money trial has been set, and jury selection begins now on april 15th. so that was the first thing that we scrolled on the bottom. those were his first comments that he was making out of the hush money trial. we will get to that first. emily? >> emily: we spoke earlier about his demeanor and how measured he is, how firm he is. i want to point out, as well, he is always respectful of the court as an element, as an institution. and while he never hesitates to sort of deride the judge that has made these ridiculous decisions, note that he always says, "we will comply with the decision, we'll absolutely put up this," he always talks about that. i have to point out the stark contrast with even a president of the united states who likes to shame supreme court justices. he doesn't do that. he is standing and respect for the court, no matter how corrupt these decisions of the prosecutor have been. i want to point that out because i think it is important and in contrast to members of the democratic party. >> harris: so the hush money case, the trial is april 15th, they begin jury deliberations. and he said, as emily pointed out, he will post the bond, when asked what the collateral he is. and that the civil fraud case. he said cash. >> sean: by the way, his truth social has merged, it's going to go public. it is allegedly going to give a windfall of $3.3 billion. he can't sell that right now, he's got a hold at least six months. he can't even use it as collateral. but donald trump is going to have a lot of cash coming in the door as he looks forward to the next five, six, eight months. >> harris: that must chap the hide of all these people, that they can put the law aside. letitia james, "i want to get trump." wow. more "outnumbered" in a moment. we thank you for this time to come together as a family, as friends, and as a country. help us, lord, especially this lent, to grow closer to you. amen. join us in prayer this lent. on hallow. stay prayed up. meet the traveling trio. each helping to protect their money with chase. wooo! tools that help protect. alerts that help check. one bank that puts you in control. chase. make more of what's yours. breathing claritin clear is like... is he? 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i don't know. and he said they were chanting her name at some point so maybe -- to that with "cri "criminale?" i don't know. i speak no spanish but i heard that part. that's problematic for a woman he wants to hold the redline against israel. >> it seems she's always one step behind, including addressing the southern border of which she is apparently our czar. but she continues to blame the g.o.p. for the border crisis. let's look. >> i think most americans are clearly of a broken immigration system and we need to fix it. members of the united states senate, those considered to be very conservative, when it came to a bipartisan resolution. but they are refusing to put it up for a vote. in large part because, we know, the former president would prefer to run on a problem instead of fix a problem. >> as of right now, as the executive action still on the table? could we see that? >> that does not absolve the fact that the real fix is going to be when congress acts. >> kayleigh: i think exactly what she said is mirrored in the reporting out today. i think the bite in the administration is in tough spot. both politico and axios came out with pieces that basically said biden was on the verge of taking executive action. in fact, politico went so far to say the president was announcing a string of moves and he did not. both pieces however say that the executive action is on the table. so what happened is the problem at the border, while still there, while still unprecedented, while the numbers are still high, it subsided seasonally. so they are leading these executive actions, kind of in the tank, and they are ready to deploy them in the months to come. so they have the power but they're still trying to blame it on the g.o.p. very mixed messaging, and i think the american public sees the images and says, fix this. >> emily: right, and they recognize the power. heretofore, they've been saying they've been failing. >> rebeccah: and she is the border czar. this is supposed to be her main issue is vice president that she is supposed to be addressing and she continues to shark responsibility, blame the g.o.p. when there's executive action that the said administration can take. i want to get back that puerto rico thing. i actually didn't think that kamala should be embarrassed by this. i think the democratic party should be very worried and embarrassed. these protesters, she went all the way to puerto rico and there are still pro-hamas protesters in puerto rico. she can't even get away from it. the democratic party has a serious problem with this left wing that is still giving it administration -- they are calling her a war criminal, burning the american flag in the street. >> harris: that was the word i heard. i don't speak any spanish. >> rebeccah: again, to harris' point, it's surprising her, she still shocked by it, the democratic party doesn't understand the significant problem they have trying to continue to support israel as it goes into rossa to get the remainder of this hamas stronghold. >> sean: i think this is an indictment on the media. you have a media that will allow kamala harris to try to blame the border on republicans and a bill that would never secure the border, when joe biden signed 94 executive orders to undo donald trump's border security policy, which has now given us 50 million illegals that have come into the country. in the media doesn't go, hold on a second, i know about the republicans not wanting to push this nonborder security bill, but you signed 94 executive orders, mr. president. opening up the border. they never called him out to give this message to the american people. >> harris: and you are surprised by that? 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we look for them by listening on the ground? today's democrats should move on from identity politics. it's not working. it's not working for them or for us. democrats are hemorrhaging the very voters they think they are pandering to. far left liberals are living in an old paradigm. americans don't fit into neat little boxes anymore. [applause] my point is -- look, you are still building your politics around slicing and dicing people into these fixed categories. democrats need to get the memo that you can't win elections anymore by automatically assuming you are going to get every voter who is not these guys. the more you obsess over identity, the more you ignore the bread and butter issues that win and lose elections. >> kayleigh: rebeccah, we know it's been a strategy of the democratic party to vulcanized society into groups. i can't believe you're not segregating kidnapping. i thought we would show our viewers, here's the ebony and feather alerts to which bill maher is referring. >> rebeccah: he is right, it's not working, so it is in earning the democratic votes they want. it's also just so divisive. it is a pernicious ideology that divides everybody up into these little groups, and then presupposes that they know the way you think because of the color of your skin, because you are a woman, because you are a mom. he's exactly right. when he's right, he's really right, and when he's wrong, he's really wrong. on this point, he's completely right. i hope, maybe -- i am an optimistic person -- that we will get to the end of this identity politics. because it is especially bad, not just for the partisan purposes of it all, it's really bad for the country. >> kayleigh: it doesn't seem to be working for the left. look at latino voters. you saw trump winning, by 16 points. this was a group joe biden previously won by 23 points. 33, i should say. then he moved over to black voters and biden won by 75 points. now that margin is 43 points. so it is just not working, what they are doing. >> harris: it's offensive. we already know this president thinks that black people are monolithic, that hispanic people have many different individualities about them. he actually said that, and of course he had to walk it b back. whatever the decision is about compartmentalizing groups of people based on hair texture and skin color and first language, that sort of thing, i guess when it stops working for them, rebeccah, is when they will stop doing it. i don't know that'll stop working. we will have to see this election cycle, because this is the first time we have seen a democrat drop this type of, in the lanes they identify, making the most popular, this precipitously. so we will have to see, is that enough to get people to say you are not the guy we want anymore, we don't just want to be identified that way? >> kayleigh: and james carville is another democratic seems to be sounding the alarm bells constantly. he didn't interview with "the new york times" and he said this, that there's also a problem with men in the democratic party. "a suspicion of mine is that there are too many preachy females." i don't know if i agree with its description, but nothing less." "the message is too feminine. everything you are doing is destroying the planet. you got to eat your peas. if you listen to democratic elites, the whole talk is about how women and women of color are going to decide this election." "48% of the people are male. do you mind if they have some consideration?" >> sean: as a man, i don't want people to sit and say i have toxic masculinity. i am a man, i'm masculine, and don't read me for that. leave me alone. if you want to attack plan the way god made me, i'm probably not going to vote for you. if you want me to not eat a hamburger but eat a cricket burger, i'm sorry, i don't want to eat a cricket burger and i want to drink a beer. when you check the nature of the things i like and who i am, i'm going to be repelled by that. you see more african american men coming over to the republican side, the donald trump side, and hispanic men, as well. men in general, in greater numbers, looking for freedom and to be left alone by the democrat party. i'm not going to say it's women, but the democrats and their policies as a whole. >> kayleigh: he also said, "when i look at these polling numbers, it's like walking in on your grandma naked. you can get the image out of your mind." >> emily: i wish what would stick more with his party are the images of suffering americans are going through right now. i wish the image they couldn't get out of their head was laken riley's family's grief. those polls are reflecting humans, americans under biden's watch. i have to point out something. i detest this aspect about the democratic party who insists on charactericaricaturizing. the reason it is named amber alert is it was named after a 9-year-old girl kidnapped while riding her bicycle and was brutally murdered. to this day, the case remains unsolved. savannah's act, which president trump signed into act, is because savannah gray linda lafontaine was brutally murdered, butchered , and the community should between -- for them to take some really horrid and hideous objectification of people that they think behave and should act a certain way, and name it that, and think that is what uplifts those people, get rid of those altogether. if a child goes missing, it doesn't matter their skin color. you put the identifiers in the box and he sent out the alert. speak of that person matters, not a number, but a name. very beautifully said, emily. we will take you to this. former president trump holding a news conference at 40 wall street, a trump building he's expected to speak at. that will happen any moment now. we will take you lives when it happens. doug. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. we got a bit of a situation. 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i looked through the roster, i didn't see anyone -- ronna mcdaniel has been a vocal supporter of the present. shouldn't you have someone who represents essentially half the country? >> absolutely, sitting next to the former white house press secretary for donald trump, wouldn't have it any other way. that's the whole point. you've got to have voices from everybody. my show, we have the great debate with the democrat and republican, and they have to make nice over potato chips after beating up on each other for six or 7 minutes. but that is what represents the country. we are a divided nation. so if we don't have someone who can see things both ways -- and you would hope it would be journalists. i love interviewing everybody. i especially like interviewing people that i can't guess what their answers are going to be. that's the whole point. what are they afraid of from ronna mcdaniel? because it sounds like the talent needed to be notified. when was the last time management came to any of you and said, "we are about to do a contract with so-and-so, we want to know, look at line eight, do you think that's too much money for that person cannot" that's not how you hire, you hire based on the content you want to show your audience. >> kayleigh: they might not know how it works. i guess this is a sunday show round up, because watch this bias at the other network, abc. this is john carl. >> there was reporting this week that you are possibly under consideration to be donald trump's running mate. i don't put a lot of stock in his reporting right now. but you said it would be an honor to be offered a spot on his ticket. really? >> i think anyone offered the opportunity to serve his country's vice president should be honored by the opportunity to do it. >> look what happened to the last guy. >> we wake up every single day, terrorist attacks. that's what matters to me. >> you are not suggesting that happens because of biden? >> absolutely i am. >> kayleigh: getting to press and on, "you can't blame biden for that." i thought your role is an advocacy, asking questions of both sides. >> sean: and trying to get answers. i worked at cnn, and ronna mcdaniel is going to earn every cent they are going to pay her because are not going to be nice to her. they do not treat people like fox treats jessica tarlov or harold ford jr. not at all. it begs the question -- it's good television to have people from different points of view, to have an argument, a conversation. if you can't do it on tv, how do you expect the country to do it? >> harris: i love that. >> sean: come on come nbc. bringing different points of view and have a debate. are you afraid your viewers might actually agree with conservatives watching a network connect then go back and work on your ideas if you are afraid of conservatives with great points of view, that your viewers might actually like. >> kayleigh: to that point, politico said one of the rationales among the hosts, those at msnbc, was that she doesn't represent the nikki haley or mitt romney voted. okay, then get someone who represents all those voters and have a conversation. >> rebeccah: but of course she was the rnc chair so she is still going to represent a significant swath of the american people. people should be curious to know what they're thinking rather than just closing their eyes and closing their ears and not knowing. by the way, maybe this is why democrats are always surprised when whole swaths of the country don't vote the way they think they ought to because of their skin color, because they don't actually understand that immigrants here actually care, for instance, about a secure border, and it's not just about their skin color. listen to the other side. >> kayleigh: coming up, former president trump set to hold a news conference at any moment. we are awaiting him. we will take you there when we see it. he's arriving at 40 wall street now, expected to speak on the newly reduced bond's civil fraud case and the start of his hush money trial now set for april 15th. with the freestyle libre 3 system... know your glucose levels no fingersticks needed. all with the world's smallest and thinnest sensor. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. try it for free at freestylelibre.us. the future is not just going to happen. you have to make it. and if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea, and now becomes the future where you grew a dream into a reality. the all new godaddy airo. put your business online in minutes with the power of ai. veteran homeowners, have you looked at the interest rates on your credit cards lately? 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>> again, it's going to play out in the political arena and donald trump will pay a very large price for it. i'm going to give donald trump credit. in politics, you want to be consist in your messaging and he's going to come out and say this is a witch hunt and say this is election interference. >> he said it earlier. >> and he'll say it again right now and he keeps driving the same message and that's resinating with the american people. you done want 20 but he'll say two and he'll keep saying it because that's what it is. >> he's also said respect to the court, he will do what he is told to do. you think that works for him. >> i do, and i think it's significant because it's in contrast to what many members of the democrat party do, which is say i'm not complying, hunter biden, the supreme court justices are off their rocker, president biden. we have a lot of examples of people disrespecting the court when they disagree with the ruling. president trump is not one of them. i point out to underscore that the glee with which we are watching, the democratic party and the mien mainstream media and letitia james and the attorney general just everyone that that belies the fact this is simply political. to them it's a circus and they're popping popcorn and have no actual respect of the gravity that a judgment is on a human and especially in an american. >> that's so well put and we're supposed to respect that, the scales of justice and it's been made to look like circumstance duh solay and -- cirque du soleil. >> the american people are watching and listening to the former president say this is about rule of law and fairness. not just about me but all of you and that's why a lot of this isn't sticking in terms of a political effect that the democrats want. it's backfiring and gavellizing support. >> is there room for the current president to stand up and say let the law play out? >> i think you'll hear him say that to a certain extent, you heard him echo that earlier in the hour. but look, this is likely the -- >> no, the current one. >> oh, the current one. i don't think so. not the current one. april 15th is the jury selection and likely the only case going to the trial election and washington post did a survey finding 2-1 people viewed it about politics and not the law. really interesting to see where that goes. final point decision, desk head quoterrers put out a tweet and surveyed 296 polls found for the first time since they started engaging polling that donald trump has a more favorable view and you happen favorable view and 47.9 to 49.8. maybe candidates talk about housing. >> and used to hinge on if there was a conviction and one thing is politics with the conviction weighing less to those voters than before. we'll cover it all as we always do as we have all voices that count. yours as well. >> john: enj good afternoon, everyone. awaiting a news conference w