>> suet good evening and thank you for joining us and i am trey gowdy and it is "sunday night in america" griff jenkins 61 of the nursing lot of that have somebody about how they choose to spin this gift of life and she wanted to spend hers, taking care of the sick, the injured and those who needed some kindness perhaps on the doorstep of death. it makes a special kind of person in a centers laken riley would've faced on diseases and infections and viruses and restore health and her life coming to take care of the sick and she wanted no doubt, severe to those threats and dangers and she just could not survive, a simple job around the lake, and athens, georgia. she was murdered by an illegal alien with no regard for her life or for your loss and ranking of the democrats reject, calls her death to mean anything, democratic katie porter was to be a u.s. senator, she just as on the murder of laken riley, to change anything. >> i think the important thing to focus on is that anyone instance should not shape our overall immigration policy printed is just so many different facets including a by economic choices about what workers to allow income how to create prosperity in america. trey: liberalism is not confined to just california. >> understand and the like have a great tragedy like this we are all deeply hurt that everybody express their hurt different l lay. [inaudible]. make out the clark county and sanctuary city, who do that, what is their name. trey: follow there and telling you is, don't let this murder change anything card god proving that we learn or make improvements after the murder it is not just liberal politicians come and see underwriter mortised up to the laken riley be exploited and in his words. they seen, she is dead, exportation is the least of her concerns right now. over the cnn writer really does not want is for you to be motivated, katie porter really does not want, is for you to do exactly what she elective in doing, decades. the death penalty was noted over the murder of james jr. in texas in 1990, the left eight crime laws and neck instantly putting his colors to death, would not suffice. like in prison was not enough of the murder of matthews of shepard in wyoming the left wanted to use his murder to change the law. in murder was not enough for the killing of george floyd 2020, the left encouraged much of violence and arson and rioting, as a buffer defunding the police. the lift, they have no trouble politicizing some orders events and social causes, god forbid that you do so. god for bid the death of a nursing student in georgia, be more than just a murder, god forbid that are deathly to real change and katie porter said that one is to should not change policy except, when it suits her. so how many murdered nursing students would be enough. how many dead americans at the hands of those here, illegally, would be enough to take action. so whether you're a black man in texas are a gay man in wyoming, whether you being arrested in minnesota, jogging and athens, georgia, you should be free and safe and alive. so do not lecture us on using a single crime, and a single vertical to change a system because the left is been doing it for decades. we are headed into the season of change where we get away in weeds about we could ask the questions. so funded nursing student, killed by an illegal alien, i never should've been released this country, and should've been deported long ago, is not enough to fix the border, and sanctuary cities, that you tell us what is prayed you give us a number, how many caskets would be enough for you to change. julie is now as a former director of national former president of federal rest of director reporters of us don't overreact to deport illegal alien filling a nursing student who is just temporary rent, a feeling most americans definitely, think that we should react to this and so what you think. >> i think most americans are writing i think that the polls show for such as the economy anymore, as they considered at upcoming election. it shows most americans care about what is happening at the border public care about immigration, your about crime in this country really does -underscore why congress woman katie porter, hamas or so out of touch and so tone deaf. and try you know have come to expect hypocrisy from the left, trey gowdy, you mentioned in george floyd case would like social media post, enter tweets during that stuff after the first dozen cover this on her proposition this he said exactly the opposite is what she is saying now and then, to think that one instance, should actually of most dictate law enforcement policies regarding funding and standards. and so you know but beyond her hypocrisy trey gowdy, she just wrong on effexor gianno caldwell is not one and suzie has the latest incidents of the week before we saw new york police officers being savagely beaten him a we illegal aliens in this country and before that, we saw gangs of illegal aliens on motorbikes dragging innocent americans through subways as a committed crimes against them. you know, they were alterable to see somebody like katie porter's of any was such worked morally bankrupt valley serving in congress i guess the good news is, she's apparently to advertise for liberal democrats in california because it appears that she's going to lose a primary in today's lovely, be out of elected office altogether later this year but at the end of our select with a very tragic, and undeniable conclusion katie porter and impressed joe biden and his administration, for the last three years have shown that they care more about open borders they care about murdered americans. >> mentioned joe biden let's listen to them at all ask you a question on the other side. biden: us long past time to act, we need more ages officers and judges the more equipment, in order to secure our border is what i would say to mr. trump, so plan the policy issue, citizen and trended suit telling them to block this legislation, jointly, or i will join you in telling the congress, the passes bipartisan border security bill. trey: he said three years, and it is congress his father donald trump's fall, but he said that is not my fault and what you s say. >> well sorta listen to that is just so dishonest and disingenuous with santa about getting angry is divided enemy, that is a most like elder abuse to go after him in the mean his own justice department accepted every word of the special counsel for the said that is so mentally competent to be held legally responsible for his criminal actions been so i do not even know if he knows what is policies have been for the last three years but i know that is have yourself and i know is cabinet secretaries you know is dhs secretary alejandro mayorkas knows that nine months into the biden administration he went on tv and he about the fact that without congress, joe biden by setting 90 executive orders had rescinded almost all of donald trump's policies the border and immigration. so you know i think that you know the reflects just how poorly this administration has grossed and trey gowdy unite during transition, i shared with the bided team, our intelligence about how remain in mexico the cooperation of the mexican government, donald trump's request had taken in a secure the border and taken illegal crossings an average of 1000 per day for the entire year of 2020, and as you know trey gowdy we now have a 900 percent increase in that we now have 10000 illegals on average, coming through on certain days in this country as a result the entire country suffering as a result of that heard unfortunately, you know, great americans like laken riley are being killed is a direct result of those policies any do-nothing congress to change all of that we have the congress to fix this problem, we need a strong american president that we do not have right now. trey: that's a great thing about democracy is always another election we have one coming up in just a few months, john lee ratcliffe from the great state of texas former director of national intelligence, when a federal prosecutor, thank you so much for joining us on sunday night. >> it is great to see you. trey: the border has become a bipartisan outrage, him and even have a signature city's mayor eric adams, changing their tunes but integration sanctuary cities status is resale former nypd inspector, attorney, and fox news contributor paul wonka that call and sometimes, the collective conscious of the country, and the murder of a young woman, simply out for a jog might well do it but laken riley is not the first person killed well somebody you're on and unlawfully doesn't seem to motivate change. >> no it hasn't this one seems to be a watershed any estate was just so undeniable that we have a real problem and you obviously, the overly we are in an election year which which put your finger on his duplicitous response, that were getting from any of our leaders and here in new york for instance eric adams, the same time now, that he is saying, that we need to take a look at the sanctuary status, and not two weeks ago, he was talking about the fact that he wants to as micro summative feel jobs slick cards in the city's pools of beaches. my definition is going to put the potential gang members as well as - that we heard so much about contact with teenagers on a daily basis but what good won't go to go wrong and governor here in new york, this talking about killing 2000 positions at the same level with congress about whom we know nothing and she's even talk about putting them on the campus is working in the kitchens will this remember, the accused positive are laken riley cases brother here illegally, and committed crimes was working on campus kitchen heard that so, there really clearing pitfalls it will getting to a point where there undeniable. trey: and you appalled sanctuary sitting that's just another way of saying is crime free zone have you couple that with soros prosecutors, and you couple that with prosecutors target people but not crimes, enemy we have the makings of a broken noumenal justice system and maybe that will motivate people come november. paul: i think it very well could having the polling shows that immigration has become the number one issue in the election he gets today, the president has not been able to bring himself to say that laken riley's name, and you know, you put your finger on the perfect storm that were hitting here many blue cities were the soros prosecutors and a lack of enforcement a semi together with this margaret influx and were seeing all of these crimes some videos of the gone viral. we go to go beyond selling the most apparent facts, if you like but we should be looking at is some sort of federal mechanism through hundred to prohibit the sanctuary status weather is declared or not, because evans is working the wiggle room because they say that we want to six were city with the same type of we don't know - will that is a sanctuary sitting show pattern of practice about notifying federal government, somebody who is de facto illegal, has been picked up on a crime had probable cause, there here illegally, will that should require notification to ice and if you do not do that, were you know. get federal money that is you both know, the federal government plans a great deal of police operations of the local and state level this country this mechanism for special of the work for some of the federal government is serious air, and either administration, there are fixes they can work at the ground level is what needs to be looked at because vocally, progressive just hold sway in many of our cities i just don't want to hear it. trey: follow paul, i recently heard you on another show is always want you had it was enjoy hearing from you have an unique perspective and you were talking about venezuelan gangs, initial alarm everyone alarmed me in a very hard to alarm but it does more harm to be and take us to and warnings of this venezuelan gating issue. paul: nick there very well organized and anybody is that oc case a rico case, organization is great force multiplier difference be on the borders of venezuela now strong in ecuador and other places, the trend ship consider. see them emerge here is a real force and there's a reason why bloomberg news, not exactly know best right wing 700 conspiracy in a homicide rate is 720 fear look year low bloomberg printed out of the migrants and talking to this country and this is what cupid in 1980 as part of it - lived in quickly seem to be emptying out here and he was tasters into our country and tht is a prison gang, his know accident and i think that these crimes are going to be with us for a while we come up with some sort of solution but clearly they do know what the back and that's why he is suspended these flights read. trey: paul were lucky to have somebody with your unique ground to advise us on matters involving her justice system and thank you for joining us this sunday night and will see you soon. paul: thank you congressman. trey: and camille, fani willis moeller her fate into recent georgia judge said that within two weeks, we will know whether fani willis is off the case we while the u.s. supreme court, thanks of president and presidential immunity an attorney 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is reason enough to get them booted from the case. >> i think the misconduct of the we have seen from fani willis and nathan way, it really show how corrupt the case has been from the start and were certainly hopeful that that case will be dismissed, and at the very least, i think the judge mcafee will certainly installing considering dismissing both fani willis and nathan way from the case based on an appearance of impropriety listed periods of it is all in all i think that it was a very good day in court for president trump seemed other than by steve - >> suet okay, sarah highly skilled lawyer and i was a mediocre one but a lot of her listeners are not lawyers and i horror hundred two different things that are that involuntary recusal of the prosecutors but also a potential dismissal of the document so give you three options, this is a trial timing issue that gotta go get brand-new prosecutors. or, or the indictment itself is in danger third option being nothing happens i don't thank you so a realistic one. >> yes will look like if wade and willis are disqualified, bringing in new prosecutors come in for could result of the number of possibilities new prosecutors might the case i decide that it should never have been brought in the first place which is what we believe and just move a forest dismissal. the judge could also find their actions have been so deeply corrupted the case that it should be dismissed from the bench and one way or the other though i think that it is highly highly unlikely that georgia case moves to trial before the november 2024 coming election and so in terms of its relevance to this campaign of election interference, being waged against president trump, i think that it's certainly been a good day etiquette week that a series of events for our same. >> c1 must move out of the case come to fax me for challenging arguments and we have all been there before any it dealt a bad the facts and you do the best you can with them and i want to understand the presidents argument, is the argument that a president who conspired to kill a political opponent 100 plus week week to be convicted by the sender before he or she can be indicted and tried in criminal court of what exactly is the argument. >> lives are really the argument trey gowdy if a prisoner just killed his total entered political opponent that would be a pride and he would not be immune from prosecution after he leaves office, were talking about his official acts like the photo than the outer perimeter of a presidents responsibilities as president for those acts, the president should have criminal immunity the same way that the course of consistently held affiliate civil immunity in this case, it is dc prosecution, president trump is being prosecuted for his act fall within the core of his article to duties, things like asking the department of justice to investigate election fraud, communicating with members of congress about the same communicating with state officials about election fraud in the 2020 election, these are all presidential acts over the acts like that, we believe that a president would first have to be impeached and convicted with a house and senate before they could then be prosecuted thus the constitutional design that's our system is set up everything that jack smith special health on the team are were roughing rushed short over the corporate such festivals that he's get trump. >> write about the rescue when quickly a question, i can afford it for more than one or you right so i've got one more about what happens legally these tried and convicted, after he selected but before he sworn in. >> what we don't think that's what happened and if that were to be the case, he was still be able to take office has president the president has no constitutional officer the sample case law the idea that the other branches of government cannot interfere with a presidents ability to exercise his responsibilities under article two but again, we thank you so highly highly unlikely president trump hasn't done anything wrong here i think the case is falling apart as we speak and we think that is likely that this report rules for us and presidential immunity we also think the supreme court is likely to throw out half that indictment after hearing fisher which is a case on january 6 related case later the spring is all in all the prosecution i don't think he knows moderate all and i think that the events that you just described are highly likely to come to pass. trey: well sharp will audiences legal expertise and thank you for joining us on "sunday night in america" look forward to having a back. >> think you a lot and appreciate it suet and coming up, what makes people stay in recent they seemingly, and out when and on the street german editorial board is bill melugin and kelly white brooks for the washington examiner them try to help us understand nikki haley's decision to stay in this race. i'm a parking gate. and i'm 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in america". >> c1 will go back to "sunday night in america", there is a difference between losing, and failing including but there is also a time and a season, for all things including knowing when to withdrawal. in making any loss to iowa and new hampshire south carolina, nevada michigan, the list keeps growing that if you have any see a path to victory but she is younger she has a promising future is so what is the right time, the savings this is not my time and speech writer for former bush - heavy white rights for the washington examiner and welcome to bill melugin of people buy lottery tickets and somebody had to ask, for her to go to the prom which tokyo chooses about one were great either people take when the billing chances all of the time but nikki is spending millions and maybe jeopardizing her political future isn't she. >> will i don't know bernie sanders, these were used today, only because he hung in the, people canadian as long as they want and there's so rules about when to get out and a lot of it is dictated by whether they are backers will continue to fund the drive that looks hopeless and and i thank you so pretty clear, that if donald trump or think the same is true with biden, they're not going to be in the ticket, so equity come the normal political process by another bible that it did not come in the debate and it is not coming in the primaries whether somebody minefields with the legal issues and so they could happen maybe she banks on an open convention where she's not guaranteed, but she could safely say the race. trey: well let's listen to governor haley coming together would ask you a question on the other side. >> if the republicans really want to get us back on track we got to acknowledge that maybe it is him and maybe donald trump is the reason that we keep losing we cannot be a country it is right abroad fire on through four more years of chaos, donald trump is the nominee, we will lose and it is that simple. trey: what really had a supporters claim that they will not support donald trump in november and justices order say they will not support her that so, then what and are there enough gop voters to spare a bunch assume when speak assumable quite frankly don't think that haley's voters supporting trouble have any effect on him because most of her supporters are democrats in a defensive fleet democratic in the first place i think the problem think at his computer now is a she's a candidate disability no what it is she's running for and she knows at this point is you cannot win the gop nomination and a archway and she's losing in every single state even super tuesday one of the states that have some eye-opener open contest aunt, she cannot win the white house and amino sesame present she is sort of transitioning into an independent or third-party good and i recognize that she is trying to appeal to a specific kind of voter who are dissatisfied with the options that trump invited but the fact is, those voters make up a very small part of the electorate has certainly not enough to get to the white house if she were to stage an essay with an independent bid. trey: well and political scientists and i am an expert on the colleges force more than i am politics, but anatomically, i do know people who are lifelong republicans and they are not independence their daughter democrats switch over the vote, and right now, they would not support donald trump if he were the nominee and part of it i think is the message, just the manner in which he messages things and when you're still well •-ellipsis ideal well why this president trump continuing to use the phrase, provide a tar clothing and when i just, ignore her going to win, just ignore her. bill: [laughter] well, yes, i don't know. i think a lot of well even trump supporters wish that he would not indulge in that language. i look nikki la also has policy disagreements and with donald trump on afforded issues in ukraine, try to so forth and that's the membership and mitochondrial organizations and in a normal year, republicans hard-core nomination before, normal year, nikki haley would lose endorsed donald trump and he biting a big part of president and i don't think this 20 happen. the animosity has been so so big the personal attacks so strong that i think that is unlikely but they would try to bring terrific and different and trump is very popular within a set of large check of the republican party negating obviously has a call with independence and democrats and will need some of them for trump to win in november is all the normal thing would be for them to come together which like george hw bush and ronald ragan but i don't think this is normal times and i will say that it would also did i get the sense thinking la is going to go the route of liz cheney. i do think that she's going to try to stay republican she said that all loans we will be interesting to see. trey: okay kayla let me mention bill vegan vice president i don't thank you so going to be nikki have a but who do you thank you so going to be as a matter. >> what i thank you so mattering i think that it usually to the vice president on certain demographics is trying to type into certain issues that you want to capitalize on residencies that you want to make the most out of edge of the sort of floating around a few names already and my opinion is that he would be best served by choosing a woman as his vice president have another talk really struggles among the suburban women demographic the demographic is going to be key swing states like my home state of michigan which he lost dividing us time in pennsylvania of these other states as him if he were to choose somebody like will actually agree nikki haley might be up pragmatic choice for the reason somebody like sarah have to be sanders to bring this coalition together that could be winning ticket. trey: welling is the bad news is, that would rule out my friend test god had i think that he does not pass either of that will ease his suburban is not a woman event we shall see and think about for joining us on sunday night i have a feeling love this conversation many times and we know november. >> thank you amy coney barrett will. trey: up next the government has avoided a shut down for the moment but is there more probably come from capitol hill a congressman fred shield tells us nex get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a digital money coach in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, big and small... and see how changes you make today... could help put them within reach. from your first big move to retiring poolside - and the other goals along the way. wealth plan can help get you there. ♪ j.p. morgan wealth management. why are force factor vitamins so popular at walmart? force factor uses the highest quality ingredients to deliver powerful, healthy results from delicious and convenient supplements. that's why friends and family recommend 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republicans is like watching a football team this best play is the punch, at the block sue majority snow house financial services many vice chair congressman french help from the great state of arkansas comes when i think that everything was supposed to be better and fixed windows eight including some of the movie just heard from, together with the democrats there enough kevin mccarthy. french: and introduced me to be with your new think would be perfect because is very people they were complaining last week, any of them were the ones the prohibited us from getting overspending were done last fall when we have the fiscal responsibility act, that improved federal policy, from conservatives because many over the next ten years. but that's not the case is a very find ourselves in the beginning of the year, still trying to solve this puzzle in fy 24, it is really ridiculous but hopefully now were on the right track but everybody's of the same page, this for the fiscal responsibility act spending levels in the spinning consummate i get that done before march 22nd. trey: annual congressman, may be good enough to come on before we get this conversation but it bears repeating that our nation does have a staggering debt which is unsustainable, that much is true of most republicans have no interest in addressing what drives the deficit in the debt which is mandatory spending including, three that we just heard from including some prominent republican presidential candidates, and so if they're not ever going to talk about what drives the debt another talk about his discretionary spending, is ever get fixed. french: close really misleading comments were voters of the size of the aisle. i desperately want both parties to get back to competing on having the lowest deficit in fact trying to balance the budget, were not going to do that by beating each other up over how much money is spent on national public radio have we have got to address, the long-term fiscal reforms necessary to make social security the other benefit programs that are tied to demographics, make the sustainable for the next generation have a putting them on the sustainable path for the future, we will have a much better fiscal outlook for the u.s. have we will consume fight every year about spending levels will look trey gowdy, we need to get back to were both impressed and all the republicans believe that the smallest deficits and going to balance budgets, that is the right course. trey: okay wearing an election year so my question for you was meant i guess is what now as of republicans are in districts where shutdowns what and for the 107 oh the spinning ranks like eight on the list of things of the lines of the voters heading into november and so how politically does i shut down the threat of a shut down in a partial shut down, how does that help the gop keep a majority come november. french: patient down is as zero help to the republicans running for public office this year and absolutely zero we see them the past is because the democrats control the senate and the democrats control the white house and there is no leverage and are tiny majority come of house republicans the people's house to achieve anything by shutting the government down at a best objective to do what we promised last year which was to cut spending, cut regulations, roll back some joe biden's priorities, editor of the regulatory system by implementing and taking a we had a fiscal responsibility act that was negotiated by kevin a thing with president biden next year for many that is of a strategy we have this political year by 2024 venice when the house unless when the senate and us with the presidency and demonstrate that we can do even more on cutting spending, and reforming those huge demographically tied mandatory spending programs. >> c1 the great story of arkansas reminding us to set reasonable expectation reminding us again, the cost using those o georgia senate races that were evidently winnable years ago and thank you congressman is good to see you and see you soon. french: is going to be with you trey gowdy. trey: me up as american technology running up and russian weapons and if so how and former cia station chief fox news contributor dan hoffman explains after the break only on "sunday night in america no, my denture's uncomfortable! dracula, let's fight back against discomfort. with new poligrip power max hold & comfort. it has superior hold plus keeps us comfy all day with it's pressure absording layer. time for a bite! if your mouth could talk it would ask for... poligrip. 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speak, praise military what he is or is not willing to do with his troops the president has been clear, he doesn't support the u.s. troops involved in this conflict in ukraine. trey: but biden has been far less clear what exactly the mission is in eastern europe had this is a growing - within the gop is just noticed and i work but anti- ukraine has seemingly, russia and what is he was mission to help the u.s. come to stop russia ukraine have, have to see territories part of a negotiated settlement, get help is an expert on russia former cia, agent and welcome back ed many do not believe the biden has made the case for helping ukraine. but they believe that case can be made and so i'm going to let you do it and if you believe it in this defeating vladimir putin in america's best interest and why. >> yes well it is in america's best interest is important due to fighting this war and this administration is done in a very and effectively you know they have said that we would continues for ukraine as long as it takes and it sounds to a lot of folks from especially the him like the biden administration is pursuing another forevermore. really know what's going on, ukraine is winning, for every day vladimir putin fails to take - this one for ukraine if evelyn sweden, nato members also went for ukraine over 300,000 casualties the russian army which has been cut down to size of that is a way for ukraine in europe nato. were talking about less than 5 percent of the deity budget, with a huge return investment that something blood reported the point of attack in the united states and entered enjoys a virtually those of the trade with europe and that would be a risk if we do not stand up for what is right is for ukraine. my grandparents generation the second world war that if you evacuate from cancer you don't buy for dizzy coming for you evacuate from dunkirk in need to set up for what's right to present would get behind his bully pulpit and make the case more effectively to the american people and i think that the majority of american people was seen from the polls as well as in the congress, support continuing to provide ukraine with assistance and the many lives going is to replenish u.s. tax most of those military, most of the military, is produced in red states that we need this for defense industrial base i can only imagine what president reagan would be saying right now and when i was in college, president reagan was talking about peace through strength, i think we could use a bit of that rhetoric right now read. trey: dan i want about president reagan because he used to be a strong military you support your allies new support leave if not part of nato, and bruises not just well so suggested anti- ordinary anti- in this work, there is a pro russia wing within the gop, and they belittle president zaleski and yet they give a form to somebody like vladimir putin gives his political information had - jeffersons america's it would that come from. dan: welcome violence and vladimir putin is a form of democracy and he likes to frame the conflict as he did during his speech credit which i listen to in its entire is an entirety as if the west is threatening russia from the military to be truth and everything we hold near and dear to every think a tried the constitution and the bill of rights is what vladimir putin is like initial the gop has approved wing, got prevent that they do. when it's over to the house, to make the right case and is good for a toughness family that and believe we should support ukraine make the case then the point that i would make is looking to split in this country, 50/50, and senate and in the house across our land. the party can govern well with the maximum agenda there's got below the compromises that the perfect enemy of the good when it comes to shoring up border and supporting ukraine and taiwan at the time of need in his role as well. if we pursue a maximalist agenda we don't get anything done international security suffers greatly. >> c1 think it certainly use your wisdom and perspective in congress and the rainbow think you for your service your country we look forward to having a backup nothing is worsening ending any time since will see you soon dan thank you for your service. dan: all right sue and thank you were spinning as part of your sunday night with us but i have your bike a week ahead until next week and we can find is on lloyd on the trey gowdy podcasting good night south carolina. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪