this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. we have a jam-packed show and including an exclusive interview with the parents of an 11-year-old who say that their daughter was forced to share a bed with a biological male while on an overnight school trip. isn't that great? plus, we're going to examine the left's two tiered justice system. how violent blm rioters are treated compared to the january 6th protesters/rioters. but, first, oh, this is one of my favorites. poisoned ivy. that's the focus of tonight's angle at america's most elite universities life on campus for jewish students feels like this. >> i was forced to leave study group for doctoral exams halfway through the semester my group members told me the people at the nova music festival deserved to die. >> being a jus jew nyu assaultey a fellow student while i was wearing an american israeli flag and having my attacker still roam freely throughout the classes. >> while classes going on a mob of 200 people, many of whom not only were not law students were not harvard affiliates got into our building marched down the halls chanting these phrases, jews took off their key poet and i watched someone hide and you desk. laura bush lawyer it took a lot of students to speak out. but one one they did speak on capitol hill today regarding the rising anti-semitism at our nation's colleges and universities. since shortly after the october 7th hamas massacre. americans have seen what some of us have known for many, many years that our institutions of higher learning have become institutions of liers earning big money for doing nothing. where are all those diversity deans when rallies justifying the slaughter of innocent jews were held? or do only left wing muslims, transgenders, blm types and, i don't know, maybe illegal immigrants qualify? well, we know the answer. it's yes. the lawyers who prepare the ivy league presidents for their testimony today must have told them that when they're asked about anti-semitism, pivot quickly to islamophobia. >> during these past months, the world the world, the nation and our campuses have also seen a rise of incidents of islamophobia. we are seeing a rise in our society in harassment, intimidation and threats toward individuals based on their identity as muslim, palestinian or arab. >> we have launched an mit-wide effort called standing together against hate. in addition to fighting anti-semitism, it will address islamophobia. also on the rise. >> laura: now, this is completely disingenuous. do you recall huge rallies on any of those campuses urging mobs roaming about campus terrifying international students from the mideast? >> has there been any large gathering, you know, in support of the slaughter of muslims or the elimination of arab state on or near your campus that you are aware of since october 7th? >> congressman, not that i'm aware of. >> okay. thank you. so you would agree then it would be immoral or dishonest to treat the two as equivalent problems on campus. many anti-semitism and islamophobic. >> congressman, i abhor all acts of hate. >> laura: that's totally right down to the word abhor. this all begs the question. what happened then when jewish students brought their genuine concerns to college administrators? >> day after day, the mit administration have failed to enforce its own rules on anti-semitic actors such as the interfaith chaplain, intimidating jewish students. dei staff publicly declaring that israel has no right to exist. faculty, dismissing student concerns for their safety by telling them that if they are scared, they should just go back to israel. >> laura: wow, fair-minded americans should all be grateful to speaker mike johnson, congressman steve scalise, and congresswoman elise stefanik for bringing these students to washington and convening this hearing. and not surprisingly. given the jam they are in college presidents say their supposed respect for free expression is what restrain their response to some of these pro-hamas rallies. >> the free exchange of ideas is the foundation upon which harvard is built and safety and well-being are the prerequisites for engagement in our community. it is crucial that ideas are exchanged and diverse viewpoints are debated. >> those who want us to shut down protest language are in, effect, arguing for a speech code. problematic speech needs to be countered with other speech and with education. and we are doing that. >> laura: did they all have the same speech writer? it all sounded very similar. now, since when have these schools been known for respecting viewpoints other than those that are fiercely left wing? now, imagine someone i think pretty sensible ron desantis, a harvard grad, what if he came to speak on campus in an open forum in cambridge? i mean, an open forum, not just invitation only. scripted questions. how would it all go down? but we don't have to imagine how things would go down. we know what routinely happens on campus. stanford students shouted down judge kyle duncan when he visited the university in march. later in march protesters at virginia commonwealth university yelled at pro-life activist christian hawkins until it escalated into a fight and police asked her to leave the room. and in april, at san francisco state university, riley gaines was met by an onslaught of trans activists. she was forced to flee the building. and remember that survey that was conducted last year the political views of college professors demonstrates how conformity of thought is policed in hiring on campus. 50% of professors identified as liberal. 17% as moderate. and just 26% as conservative. now, the self-censorship that goes on at exam time whenever a paper is assigned. or a -- when a student maybe is called on in class friends of mine, in school or recent grabs? will that's how they get a's. now the university presidents want to throw up their hands and say we are not for speech codes. they have always been for speech code, come on, man. to quote joe biden. now the truth is if the anti-semitic youth vote turns turn out he could be in major trouble. that's why the colleges have resorted to this twisted cans of moral relativism democrats have backed themselves into a corner. and the best they can do is try to blame republicans. >> combating discrimination on campus. they're also contradict torely and simultaneously stoking culture wars that can be divisive and discriminatory. i hope my republican colleagues will denounce the culture wars that have distracted us from protecting many vulnerable students. >> >> laura: i guess he is talking about biological men who compete against women in field hockey or swimming those are the vulnerable students? have you seen them? please. there is more bad acting. there is zero empathy for the jewish students who have been traumatized here. and they only started pretending to care when the donors noticed. big donors like bill ackman who has been flaming them on x. the sickening reality is this: if you pair your anti-semitism with anti-americanism, you will essentially get a free pass from the top leadership of elite american colleges and universities. your views are fashionable. cutting edge and protected when till you life on campus is unsafe and double standard where only certain people are protected, believe them? anti-semitism will still be there. now it's up to donors and al alumni. put their money where their principles are. that's the angle. joining me now is why cove one of the students who spoke on capitol hill today a senior at u penn, great to see you. were you satisfied with what you heard from the university presidents today? >> not at all. specifically whether congresswoman stefanik asked liz mcgill does the code of contact at the unfortunate of penn allow students and professors to to say and rally around the idea of the genocide of jews? it was a very direct question. and president mcgill said calling for the genocide of jews. i don't understand what context she is referring to and it's terrifying for myself and other students the genocide of just doesn't violate the code of conduct? are you serious? >> laura: are you surprised by this, what have you seen -- see, i'm not surprised at all. because i lived this back in the late 80s at dartmouth. obvious to me then and only gotten worse since then. the intensity of the anti-israel and pro-hamas sentiment on campus surprising to you? >> i think there's going to be hate no matter where anybody occupies space. 100 percent. there will be hate. that's the unfortunate reality of the situation. >> laura: you can't outlaw hate. this is something very different than that, isn't it. >> 100 percent. when university become ambivalent and don't hold faculty and staff accountable for perpetrating such hate. that's when it becomes a bigger issue. end up in a student getting seriously physically harm. i would hope that universities agree with thee that should be avoided. >> laura: i know you and another student are filing a lawit against u penn for egregious violations of federal civil rights law by selectively enforcing rules of conducted. i want to play something else she said. again, this is in line with what i said in the angle about what they are doing about all types of bigotry on campus. watch. >> we are in the midst of making certain that all anti-bigotry efforts ensure education anti-semitism, some parts of our program do. and some parts of our program need to be enhanced. we are working on that right now. i assure you that we will make certain that that is included in all of our anti-bigotry efforts. anti-semitism underway on campus. >> i feel anyone who experiences hate no matter if they're jewish or not. it's a tragedy. direct hate. >> laura: welcome to the world. i'm hated by a lot of the people. i just don't care. excusing of the beheading of babies. >> what has been happening on penn's campus has been festering since three months ago when penn openly invited speakers like roger waters who dressed up nazi ss soldier. these were professors inviting them. at this point my class list has been shortened to, you know, not as many classes as i should be able to partake in because professors, one of which just tweeted during the anti-semitism hearing today #gaza holocaust. >> laura: eyal, this is not surprising to many of us documenting what has been going on on campus, anti-semitism and anti-americanism has gone like this. i'm so happy that you came to capitol hill as difficult as it was. i wish you all the best with what you are doing and certainly we stand with the jewish people. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> laura: joining me now is victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution. victor, this is the left the world has created. do you think there will be any, you know, awakening on campus on the part of these administrators or was this just a lot of legalese that you heard from the university presidents today. >> there won't be anything until they take seriously he any efforts to inform them. if the congress people said you don't reform and treat jewish students as do you other students, we're going to tax the endowment income on your huge endowments or get the government out of the 1.9 student loan business. i think they might pay attention. what has happened on campuses, laura, since 2,000, we have had enormous influx of middle east students you can't be held say anything about anybody else. we forget in the 70s, laura, we had 20 or 30% on americratic campus gone down to 10% or below. huge group of people who feel that there's no consequences in expressing their anti-semitism. and there isn't. if you just subsuit the word latino, black, gay, trans jews and they said the same thing they would be expelled in two seconds. everybody knows that. >> laura: you would never see the light of day. nor would you get a recommendation letter nor offer from any major american company to work. now, victor, the president of mit, again, one of the preeminent institutions in the world actually addressed the issue of the dei program today. watch. >> our comfort, equity and inclusion staff are absolutely charged with making the campus welcoming for all students. who are making sure that our staff who are dedicated to diversity, equity and inclusion are being trained about anti-semitism. >> victor, 15 seconds, too little too late? jewish students were safe and rather than make sure that they were safe, she just said don't go there. so she has no credibility what sorry no credibility at all. >> laura: victor, great to see you, thank you so much. up to the donors and alums now, isn't it? why are well-dressed chinese nationals showing up at our border? the video, next. ♪ - hi, i'm steve. - i'm lea. and we live in north pole, alaska. - as i got older, my hearing was not so good so i got hearing aids. my vision was not as good as it used to be, got a change in prescription. but the thing missing was my memory. i saw a prevagen commercial and i thought, "that makes sense." - i observed the changes in steve's memory and i thought i should try that too. - after taking prevage, i just didn't have to work so hard to remember things. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. >> wir why are so many chinese nationals crossing our border. what are their intentions and why is no one talking about this. check this out in fiscal year 2023. more than 24,000 chinese nationals were arrested by border patrol. that's more than the years of five years previous combined. wow. now, the "new york times" says that many of these chinese nationals fly into ecuador, then pay smugglers to guide them through the dangerous jungle between columbia and panama on route to the united states. well, does the group in this video look like they just trekked for weeks through the jungle? how do they all get those rolling suitcases through? and who is really facilitating their trips? there is something going on here and the biden administration does not seem the slightest bit concerned. joining me now gordon cheng, senior fellow at the gay stone institute. author of the new book "china is going to war." gordon, so you think biden and xi up to san francisco discussed these issues. all these chinese coming into the united states? >> actually, i don't think so. because this is something that biden can't deal with he is allowing thousands, maybe tens of thousands of saboteurs into the united states. remember, laura, on 9/11, it took only 19 terrorists to kill 2977 americans on one day. we have got so many more coming into the u.s. from the southern border. and it's not just the chinese. we have got syrians and venezuelans who are very suspicious background coming in. and the biden administration is just releasing them into the u.s., not tracking them at all. >> laura: this is why hunter biden making all that money in china is a problem for many reasons. you kind of wonder whether people look the other way when this is obviously something did going on here. and fiscal year 2023, 21,000 of those 24,000 chinese nationals who crossed, were single adults. gordon, what does that tell you? >> well, it tells me that these are saboteurs. because they are coming n packs of 5 to 15. of military age, traveling without family members. and pretending not to speak english. and u.s. border patrol knows that some of them have links to the chinese military. you remember that lab in california that secret chinese biological weapons facility that was discovered this spring? well that had at least 20 pathogens by the official count. it had almost 1,000 mice that had been genetically engineered to spread disease. i am believing that some of these saboteurs were meant to actually take some of those mice and spread them around the united states. >> laura: gordon, the numbers shocked even yours truly and i thought i had seen it all. this is no coincidence. this is no -- there is something very disturbing going on and you are the best person to talk about it. thanks so much. now, while most republicans are trying to crack down on china's influence in the united states, house financial services chairman patrick mchenry, you know the guy with the bow tie wants to let it grow. he is blocking a bipartisan amendment to the ndaa that would require businesses to report invest. s in china and other adversaries to the government. mchenry says he is doing it because the measure would strengthen, rather than weaken the objectives of xi jinping and the chinese communist party. joining me now robert light you see heiser former trade rep in the trump administration. bob, how do you respond to his defense of his opposition to that sensible legislation? first of all, we have to remind ourselves and i think gordon did that and you do constantly how big a threat this is. we are in a cold war with china. very aggressive, very threatening adversary and every time your viewers watch the news and watch these wars going on around the world. realize sews are proxy wars and pay master for both of them is china. we have to remind ourselves of that stuff. this is the serious geopolitical threat we probably faced as a nation. so i start with that. the argument that mr. mchenry has, and i should say, you know, i know mr. mchenry a little bit. he has a great career in the house. he's a smart guy. you know, he was chief deputy whip. he did good things. he helped us with usmca and a lot of things. on this, the most geopolitical issue, he's wrong. so their argument basically is, look, if you invest more in china. do you more business with china, they are going to become like switzerland that exactly the view that the clinton administration had. >> laura: it's ridiculous. >> by the way, at that time you and i both said it was nonsense. that was the reason we gave china the favored trade relationship. it was because of this notion. now we are 23 years later. we have transferred probably $10 trillion to them. they are more authoritarian. they are more aggressive. they are more anti-american. they spy on us more. they send over, as you just showed. 24,000 penal. just for -- give you a frame of reference. that's about two army divisions that we know of. right? that doesn't even count. >> laura: bob, china is -- let me just say china has all sorts of structural problems they are dealing with. real estate, you know, collapse. all sorts of other issues. why would mchenry and why would any republican, let alone any elected official want to throw them a lifeline now. reagan didn't do that with the soviet union. >> it makes no sense at all. we should, this by the way, is a very important amendment. but it's not nearly strong enough. it was watered down by the chamber of commerce and the biden administration. but, it's fundamentally important that we pass this and i hope that mr. mchenry doesn't realizes it that this is going to be a very important part of his legacy. he has had a very fine career. and now to have this as your legacy, i just hope he doesn't end up doing it. let me make one other point here. >> laura: real quick. >> is he one guy. the leader -- 400 house members would vote for this. the leadership is responsible too. they have to get this through. it's not just this one guy. everybody has responsibility. this is a very popular provision. 96 votes in the senate. it would get 400 in the house. >> laura: this means speaker johnson and mitch mcconnell, we want to hear from both of you. bob, you are bell yent. always great to see you. thank you. blm rioters get off easy. plus joe biden just made a stunning admission. katy pavlich and ned ryun are.. here, next. ♪. better prepared for unexpected events. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. honey, i think i heard something. ok. ♪ from christmas tree mats... to floorliners... cargo liners.... no drill mud flaps... seat protectors... and more... weathertech has the perfect holiday gift. honey, is everything ok? oh yeah. order at weathertech.com and don't forget weathertech gift cards. >> laura: above the entrance of the supreme court of the united states is inscription equal justice under law. but as with many principles grounded in tradition and jurisprudence, it's been laid waste to in the biden area. evident in not just how the doj has devoted limitless in manpower and resources to imprisoning biden's chief opponent as the -- as the covered for president's corrupt family. we saw how they have done that but also in how prosecutors handled the violent blm mob when compared to how they tormented nonviolent january 6th protesters. case in point. a fulton county judge gave a sweetheart deal to these two lovelies. natalie hanna white and chisholm kingston. the pair who admitted to burning down that atlanta wendy's in 2020 after they were supposedly really upset by the death of rayshard brooks. their punishment? a $500 fine, 150 hours of community service, and five years probation. of course, during the surgeon of love, the media actually seemed to empathize with the arsonist. >> very awful situation unfolded in atlanta. you are looking at live pictures coming in from that wendy's over there where the incident occurred last night. look at that building. it's now totally engulfed in flames. as you see the situation it was very peaceful demonstration but then things quickly deteriorated. >> i think we minimize the pain of the protesters when we only focus on the fires or the looting. >> laura: yeah, she said that now, i know that's a state case. but, still, compared to their sentence to that of paul hodgkin's who on january 6th walked inside the capitol and onto the floor of the senate while carrying a red trump 2020 flag, well, he got 8 months in prison. what about virginia spencer? she got three months in jail for illegally parading in the capitol. or the so-called queue non-shaman jacob chancesly he walked into the police. he was sentenced to merely three and a half years in jail for obstructing an official proceeding. now, none of those january 66th protesters were accused you ever of any violence and all were given much steeper sentences than the two who burned down a wendy's. joining me now katy pavlich fox news contributor and editor at town hall.com and ned ryun american majority. ned, obviously, this is federal vs. state. >> right. >> laura: the double standard here, months and months and months in prison or years in prison and slap on the wrist $5,000 fine. >> bifurcated legal system. people that offend the regime go to prison. part of an approved right that the regime approves of you get a slap on the wrist. i don't think this is hypocrisy by the left. this is intentional. demonstrate there is a hierarchy. if you are friends of the regime, the left regime have the right ideas and political views slap on the wrist. if you have opposing political views or dare to question or have dissent. >> laura: you question the establishment. >> question the official narrative throw the book at you. there are a lot of elected republicans in d.c., governors, a. gives don't understand what time it is. don't understand this is the reality. i think a lot of the g.o.p. base are desperate for g.o.p. leader to stand up and say enough. no more. but even more so i'm convinced the only way this stops mutually ha sure destruction. d.a.s and a.g.s in 10 told. obvious to those paying attention constitution originally written to the left is nothing but a paper barrier. the only thing they understand is power and force. >> katy, we were talking in the first segment about college campuses how students are sensors themselves. sometimes taking off the religious garb because they are afraid of what is happening with the mobs, the pro-hamas mobs in this case aren't supporters of trtrump and desantis and others. you can imagine they would think twice before going to a rally that might get out of control. >> of course. you saw this starting early on with the tea party movement audited and harassed by the irs. got away with that then you of course saw the summer of love. the riots of 2020 which became the most expensive riots in the history of the united states of america. >> laura: deaths occurred. businesses destroyed forever. entire neighborhoods destroyed for generations. you had that federal courthouse in portland that was under siege where rioters tried to glue to glue and trap u.s. marshals in that building and burn it down. attempted murder. half of those cases in early 2021, right when joe biden got into office were completely dismissed. then you go into this new situation we have where i agree with you, i don't think it's hypocrisy. if you start to understand that they believe in this style of justice, where they judge you based on your skin color. >> laura: they want to imprison trump. we know that. >> exactly who is in charge. the department of justice the january 6th case in particular. they have polled a number of prosecutors off of very serious violent sex offender cases, including for children, to work on nonviolent j 6 cases. finally the person leading the civil rights division kristin clark defund the police advocate. therefore that's why you are seeing the results. >> laura: federal charges for january 6th to your point, january 6th charges 4 430 assaut charges. blm riots, 44 assault charges. damages, january 6th, $20.88 million. it's a lot. blm riots 1 to $2 billion worth of damage nationally. i want to move on to big political moves tonight. biden ended a fundraiser saying if trump wasn't running i'm not sure i'd be running but we cannot let him win. ned, that's kind of a stunning admission i really shouldn't be doing this. >> really is it's pretty amazing that joe biden thinks he is still positioned to be the best guy to beat trump. in fact,. >> laura: he probably is in my view he probably is. >> incumbent. i get that and understand that is he definitely a husk of what he used to be and he wasn't much to speak of back in the day when he supposedly. >> laura: charlottesville was the reason he ran. >> i have to tell you i'm actually happy that biden is going to be the nominee until he is not. i know i have shared this theory with you if it becomes an august of '24 d.c. untenable. >> laura: never happen. >> i actually want trump to run against biden. i think the numbers show trump can beat biden in the battleground states and actually win the electoral college and get back to the white house. >> laura: katy, do you agree we need -- if there is going to be a number two, in case something happens. trump looks like he is going to be the nominee up by 30 points in iowa. something should happen. and he is not the nominee for whatever reason, haley vs. desantis, don't you think we need that debate? no vivek ramaswamy? nothing against him. but i want to see those two debate, give them an open forum, ronna mcdaniel has to put aside the silly role for the rnc. >> debating each other in their own events you are seeing the emails coming through. >> laura: trump is going to win but still that would be fascinating debate. >> going trying to distract away from the others. there is a two in second and third place. going at each other's throat. >> there is no debate. the base will not go for nikki haley. it's ron desantis. if it is not trump but it will be trump. >> laura: about 86% of the country. >> afp should be ashamed of itself. >> she is on desantis' tail, so there is a significant number of voters who in the third place slot want her to be the president. >> laura: trump suspect by 30 points in iowa. >> all the early states is he is winning. >> laura: this is going to be fascinating. great to see you both in studio as always. two fatal shark is attacks in two days? what is going on here. forest gallant at a is here in moments with reaction. stay there ♪ my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? 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why are these attacks happening? joining me now is wildlife biologist forrest galante. both are heart breaking stories. what can you tell us knowing the facts that you know. >> really and truly i would say there are two separate instances. they are not related at all. it's just a bad coincidence that it happened this way. in fact, in my opinion would be that there are two very different species. likely bull shark on the pacific coast and tiger shark on the caribbean side. and the situations were very different. but, at the end of the day, the people that were bitten were splashing. they were doing water-based activities and that, of course, drew in the sharks and resulted in a negative encounter which is truly heart breaking. >> laura: now, the newlywed off the coast of the bahamas was out about three quarters of a mile on a paddle board. now, i know the bahamas pretty well. there is a lot of shark activity in the bahamas. would you caution people against going out that far given what we know about the waters in the bahamas? >> that's a good question. the bahamas is incredible for shark abundance. my guest would be this was likely from a tiger shark. what would happen in that situation is tiger sharks often known as the dumpsters of the sea will go up and investigate more or less anything that's unusual and give it a bite to see whether or not that could actually be a food source. and, unfortunately tiger sharks have been found with everything from tires to license plates to jewelry in their systems. so they will eat a lot of varied things. it's really less about cautioning someone to go so far offshore as it is about being more aware of your surroundings and making is that right choices. balgtedz boarding in an area that's dense with tiger sharks is not a good choice. it's unlikely that young lady knew that and teenagerrably sad. it's just not a good thing to do. you know, it's just unfortunate. how would she know that there happened to be a tiger shark there at that point in time or with the likelihood that tiger shark would bump her off the paddle board would be lightning strike situations. >> laura: would the shark bite at the board first or they are attracted from the paddle hitting the water? she wasn't in the water when it happened. she was on top of the board when it happened. knocked off the board. >> yeah. so most likely what i imagine happened the shark came up, bumped the board by taking a small bite or knowledging it with its fin which they will do to gauge if it's prey. a panic set in, a lot of splashing and commotion and that triggered the shark to go this is a prey item because the woman is splashing because she is panicking, that makes it seem even more enticing and of course that leads to the bite. it only takes one bite to be fatal with an animal that size. >> laura: forrest, really quickly, a lot of people are speculating that shark tourism makes sharks more or less frightened of humans and more acclimated to human activity. is there any truth or concern about that? >> there can be. you know, and the truth is that if you're feeding sharks. then you are going to condition them to associate human beings with foo it doesn't really matter how you do it or where you do it. any time you are handing food out to a wild animal that animal now associates you with food. that inevitably can lead to a negative situation or a bad encounter. now, there are right ways to do shark ecotourism where there is no feeding involved and certain locations and certain species that i think the feeding is not so bad. but, at the end of the day, if you feed wild animals they will see you as a food source and something bad is likely going to happen. >> laura: that's not what i'm doing this christmas vacation, forrest. thank you. this is -- >> -- good. >> laura: this is horrible story but thank you for your insights on this. 11-year-old girl says she was forced to share a bed with biological boy on overnight school trip. her parents are here next. they are exclusively going to share her story. stay there. ♪ - [female narrator] five billion people lack access to safe surgery. thousands of children are suffering and dying from treatable causes. for 40 years, mercy ships has deployed floating hospitals to provide the free surgeries these children need. join us. together, we can give children the hope and healing they never thought possible. it's a mission powered by love, made possible by you. give today. chaperon on your 18-year-old daughter's school trip. it is an overnight. yet you find out during the trip that she is being forced to share a bed with a biological male. yeah, that happened. serena whales doesn't have to imagine it did happen. her daughter called her in a panic from the bathroom of the hotel saying she didn't want to share a bed with a biological boy. serena joins me along with her husband and their attorney. serena. stunning you were on this trip as a chaperon. thank god you were there during the summer. in another room. so you were in the other room. what happened when you asked your 11-year-old daughter to move rooms. >> thank you, laura for having us on, my 11-year-old daughter and myself on a cross country trip to philly in d.c. our daughter discovered she was unknowingly assigned to share a bed with a boy who identifies as a girl. i want to point out we love our principal and teacher and schools doesn't allow all students to feel comfortable, secure and protected. doesn't allow all parents to protect their children best we see fit. >> laura: joe, your wife is a lot nicer most people are nice people. your daughter is going to be in a bed with a boy. >> uh huh. >> laura: this is when your wife is on the trip. these facts are so mind blowing. joe, at this point, did you consider pulling your daughter out of the trip? saying we are out of here? you weren't there. i would have hit the road and probably moved schools. that is just me. >> to be honest, that was my first reaction. we didn't want to take the trip away from our daughter. she didn't do anything wrong. we didn't do anything wrong. we wanted to make sure she was able to enjoy. >> laura: tyson, i understand, these parents trying to balance having a normal experience for their daughter and this district policy that requires treating everybody, everyone is equal, no one is different. what do you do? >> do what they did call alliance freedom. stand up for their daughter. we are asking the school to tell parents what the policy is, one, two, to allow parents to opt children out if they find out their 11-year-old daughter is sleeping in a same bed with a boy. that is wrong. >> laura: why do you have to opt out? this shouldn't be a question. >> absolutely shouldn't. i agree with that. if the school is going to have this policy. absolutely should not hide this information. >> laura: they are hiding it. serena, what happened when you asked to have your daughter move rooms? >> when we were able to do it, we were not able to discuss what happened with anybody else on the trip. we were told to hide it to protect all the students on the trip. >> laura: wait a second, [laughter] they are trying to control your freedom of expression your daughter's expression and your concern, joe? your thoughts here? i guess you can't speak about it. ccp land. can't speak the truths anymore. >> right. we were like you mentioned, i wasn't on the trip. i was finding out, i was here at home with my other two children. my daughter called me. i called serena. is this what is happening? she confirmed the story we started trying to figure out how to address the issue. it is a story. all kids deserve respect and privacy. needs to be applied equally. policy very one sided. >> laura: fantastic work. joe serena. that is it. i get hot head. it is america now and forever. jesse is next. >> jesse: welcome tojesse watters primetime" tonight... >> aren'

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