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[bombs and gunshots] >> sandra: we are expecting to get a state department update as israel pushes deeper into southern gaza. and is reportedly eyeing new tactics to root out hamas terrorists. hello, welcome everyone, sandra smith in new york. great to have you today. >> bret: good afternoon, i'm bret baier in washington in for john roberts. pump sea water into the complex tunnel system to force hamas terrorists out of there. israeli forces are setting up pumps to draw water from the mediterranean and push it through miles of hamas' tunnels. >> sandra: the fate of some 130 hostages still in captivity remains unclear at this hour. fox team coverage kicks off right now. ai aishah hasnie is in capitol hill for an antisemitism hearing. >> bret: and trey, what are you hearing about the new tactic by israel. >> we are following the report from the "wall street journal" indicating israeli officials are considering using water from the mediterranean sea to flood the hamas tunnel network. this has raised some questions about what it would do to the freshwater supply inside gaza but it would give the israelis a tactical advantage against the miles of tunnels inside the strip. this development comes as israeli forces say they raided hamas general security headquarters in jabalia neighborhood. soldiers from two separate units located rockets and weapons in the area before calling in airstrikes. israel is expected to finish off in northern gaza in the coming weeks. and israel ramped up the campaign against southern gaza, focusing on khan younis, the airstrikes, some of the heaviest since the war began. and cell service was temporarily cut in gaza as the operation ramped up, amid the third phase of the war, the civilian death toll is rapidly rising but they say the operation is successful. >> many hamas operatives, including senior commanders, have been eliminated in recent days. we have moved to the third phase of the ground operations. we have secured many hamas strongholds in the northern gaza strip and now operating against the strongholds in the south. >> at this hour, we understand israeli forces are making their way into the heart of khan younis, gaza's second largest city and the israelis believe top officials like sinwar and others are hiding there. >> bret: thank you. sandra. >> sandra: u.s. says hamas may feel motivated to keep women hostage so they don't share what has happened to them while they have been held in captivity. all of this as jewish women are speaking out against the terrorist group sexual assaults, and against the women's rights groups to have stayed shockingly silent on the issue. >> what happened to israeli women, the rape, the torture, the mutilation, it's unhuman, it's crimes against humanity. and if you as a woman, an a leader can't say those words, i don't think you are worthy of your position. we will remember it and speak. we will remember that they wasn't there. >> sandra: she joined us yesterday, and gillian, how much does the u.s. know about hamas's brutality against israeli women? >> we are learning a lot. we being the u.s. every day from the israelis. yesterday at the u.n., women leaders pleaded for international groups to step in and take more action in support of women who they claim to care deeply about. take a listen. >> when i saw the list of women's rights organizations who have said nothing, i nearly choked. where is the solidarity for women in this country and in this world to stand up for our mothers, our sisters, and our daughters? >> high profile women's groups wlo have stayed silent about hamas rapes, including emily's list, the national organization for women. tech titan sheryl sandberg says it's time for the groups to believe israeli women. >> do we believe the hamas spokesperson who said rape is forbidden or do we believe the women whose bodies tell us how they spent the last minutes of their lives? >> well, former press secretary for bernie sanders's presidential campaign posted it's not a believe women scenario because no israeli women have offered testimony. senator marsha blackburn on our own air earlier today said even u.s. lawmakers now have been briefed on the evidence. take a listen. >> members of congress have seen this footage and the reports that we are hearing, women are being raped to the point of death. they are using sexual violence against women as a tool of war. >> the israeli government, law enforcement in particular has collected more than 1500 pieces of evidence documenting hamas sexual atrocities on just october 7th alone. they are taking that evidence to the u.n. and demanding a formal international investigation there. sandra. >> sandra: gillian turner live at the state department, bret. >> bret: presidents of three of the most prestigious universities in the country are facing a tough task. before a house panel how they have handled the wave of antisemitism flooding their campuses. aishah, what are they telling lawmakers today? >> aishah: hey, bret, good afternoon to you. look, they are trying desperately to walk this very fine line between trying to protect their jewish students and trying to protect free speech on campus. they are trying, i don't know if it's working, with house republicans and democrats as both sides of the aisle are really grilling these presidents as to why they continue to allow these protests to take place on campus. here is one of those very heated exchanges between elise stefanik, by the way, a harvard alum and the president of harvard university. watch. >> i assume you are familiar with the term intifada, correct? >> i've heard that term, yes. that type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me. >> can you not say it's against the code of conduct at harvard? >> embrace free expression, even views that are objectionable, offensive, hateful. >> now, i want to flag to you, bret, congresswoman jayapal was also in the room. she's under fire by her own colleagues as well for remarks that she made about hamas rapes of jewish women as gillian was talking about. listen to her here blame some of the antisemitism on former president trump. >> and also just want to appreciate the distinction that you made in one of your comments between what we can say and what we should say, frankly i think there's been an explosion thanks to the previous president in part that has shattered the norms of what is acceptable to say and we are dealing with some of the effects of that. >> what we can say and what we should say, bret. kind of ironic. >> bret: aishah hasnie, thanks. sandra. >> sandra: also coming up on the hill, happening a short time from now, a major hearing on the fight for fairness in women's sports. a house oversight subcommittee will hold a hearing on proposed rule changes to title ix that would prevent schools from banning biological males from competing in women's sports. let's bring in former ncaa swimmer riley gaines, the star witness at the hearing when it begins a short time from now, and contributor for outkick and host of gains for girls podcast. riley, great to have you here. obviously a busy afternoon for you. that hearing will be underway shortly. what would the dismantling of title ix mean for young women like you in sports? >> well, it's a lot broader than just women's sports. but in sports, this new rewrite would place the burden of proving that there's an unfair advantage in whatever sport that might be, places the burden entirely on the shoulders of the young girl. so if a male is competing in a women's sport, they are supposed to present evidence in whatever capacity that might be to the ncaa and hopefully maybe potentially the ncaa might agree. but nowhere in this new title ix rewrite does it define what an unfair advantage looks like. broader, this means men could be housed in dorm rooms with women, men could take academic and athletic scholarships away from women, men would and could use locker rooms and bathrooms on campuses. broader than just women's sports. >> interesting. something we have seen the current administration pressed on a lot. i want to bring up the timeline that we have prepared here so people can see what has transpired here. going back to 1972, when congress passed title ix, into law by president nixon. and 2016, obama administration said transgender athletes can use the bathroom or locker room of their choice. the next year the trump administration revoked those obama guidelines and then in 2020, the new title ix amendments took effect, regarding sexual harassment, riley, to this year the biden administration is proposing using title ix to stop the transgender athlete ban. you are calling this a rewrite of the policy protecting women an abomination, you call it. what's your message on capitol hill a few minutes from now. >> well, really i'm going to share my lived experience. the feelings that we felt as female athletes, myself, my teammates, my competitors, when we were forced to compete against a man, could not cut it in the men's category, ranking in the 400s to then dominating against the women. and winning national titles, and silencing from the universities if we dare questioned this, or if we felt in any way if we pushed back in any way. we were told we had to smile and step aside and that's why i say it's abomination. i think it's a despicable and i believe it's criminal what they are doing. in the name of being inclusive and feminism, they are actively excluding female athletes. >> sandra: riley, we often catch the white house press briefings during this program in the afternoons here on the east coast and this was one moment we are covering it in our own hillary vaughan was in the room and she pressed the press secretary for the president on what this means for girls. listen. >> daughters, does he care that girls are allowed to compete in sports without fear of injury. does he think it's fair to compete against biological males. >> i answered the question. it's a complicated issue. it is truly a complicated issue with a wide range of views. there is no yes or no answer to this. it is complicated. >> sandra: you make it clear it is not complicated and you are talking about the cycling race in illinois, a women's race where two transgender people took the title of first and second place, there was a woman, a biological woman on the third place podium. we can't even show the picture, we don't have it yet, we are trying to. but you tweeted out about it and said two men take first and second at the illinois state cycle cross championships. two categories for men, none for women. any women who concedes and does not compete, i will pay them the prize money they are missing out on. stop participating in the farce. last thought on you. >> it feels like a comedy, like we should be laughing at this because it's almost objectively funny if there were not real consequences, consequences being women losing out on opportunities, women being hurt in the process, especially in sports that you have physical contact. the safety aspect. that's why i say there's two categories for men. we can expect this to continue, if we don't have leaders who are willing to stand with women and if we don't have athletes willing to walk out. >> sandra: it is something. riley gaines, we know it's a busy afternoon for you. we will see you there as you offer your testimony on capitol hill a short time from now. thank you, riley. >> thank you, guys. >> sandra: bret, it's something, the transgender athletes winning the gold and silver in illinois, a lot of feedback on social media as you can imagine, but they -- those are biological men and they are taking spots on the podium from biological women and it's happening more and more in sports all over the country. >> bret: it's amazing. kudos to riley for being as vocal as she is, and this is an issue that crosses ideological lines, independents, democrat, republicans, they look at the gold medals and the winners and say what is going on here. something to follow. >> sandra: we'll be watching riley this afternoon. >> john: house republicans to hold a vote to jump start a formal impeachment inquiry into president biden as early as next week. mike johnson says it's a necessary step as the white house stone walls gop investigations. break down their case with andy mccarthy coming up. >> sandra: a long island native who decided to serve alongside israeli troops in 2020, now missing and believed held hostage by hamas terrorists. his family is urging leaders to do anything and everything to bring him back. his mother will join us live next. >> we have no time. each day that passes by, they are dying, slowly, each day. we need to get them out immediately, whatever the price might be. i'm patriotic kenny. and, hi, i'm amanda on tiktok. my scooter broke down. i went into a depression. how do you feel about that? pretty sad. and i posted it to show that kenny's not always happy. within 24 hours 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him? >> thank you for having me. we last heard from omer on october 6th. although he was in israel and we are here in new york, he made a point in keeping in touch. we spoke a lot, whenever he could. and on friday night we spoke just like, you know, a regular friday before the weekend and he said that he expected it to be a calm weeknd, it had been a really tough month before that with the jewish holidays and him positioned close to the border, and that they were told that it was expected to be calm, and things were under control, and obviously a few hours later we know that it was anything but calm. and he was on the front line and he was positioned there to protect the villages around there which we know needed the protection but they were not prepared for what happened that morning. they were ambushed and raided and he was taken and they, you know, they show him in their own videos taking him out and taking him into gaza. we have not heard from him since, no sign of life, nothing, it's been 60 days today. it's a long time. >> bret: it's a very long time. when you hear some of the hostages who have been released talking about captivity and you see the stop and start of the ceasefire or the pause in action by the israeli forces against hamas, what do you think about all of that? >> it's terrifying. it's really terrifying. you know, it's been 60 days, like we said. we hear their account of what they have gone through. it's only getting worse. and being under military action now it's -- what can i say, i have no words, it gets worse and worse and time is really critical here. the biden administration assured us that they are doing everything they can to ensure the release of the hostages but it's 60 days. it's very scary. >> bret: very scary and very frustrating i'm sure to not have a lot of word. finally, when you see some of the protests around the country and here in america and college campuses and around the world who focus on the israeli action needing to stop, how do you view it? it doesn't seem like they talk or think about the hostages still in hamas custody. >> you have to think about the hostages, you know. this -- i feel for all the civilians, the civilians in gaza, the civilians in israel, the hostages, but this is a group of terrorists. this has to come to some kind of resolution. the international community should, you know, work together to bring this to resolution, bring the hostages home and make sure that they can't -- that hamas can't impact what's happening in that region. >> bret: we appreciate your time. a difficult time and we are thinking and praying for your son. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> bret: sandra, back to you. >> sandra: we pray and hope the best for her and her family and her son. and any moment we could get an update from the state department, many women's groups and prominent democrats are staying silent of the atrocities by hamas. we will take you to the briefing when it begins. >> bret: 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violent israeli extremists against palestinians and those by palestinian violent extremists against israelis. these acts threaten west bank stability in the immediate term and take us further away from a future in which palestinians and israeli both can live in peace and security in two states. as secretary blinken made clear to leaders of the government of israel last week during his visit to the region, they need to do more to stop extremist violence against palestinians and hold those responsible for it accountable. we will continue to insist that both israeli and palestinian leaders take action to interrupt the increasing levels of violence against civilians. both israel and the palestinian authority have a responsibility to uphold stability and protect civilians in the west bank. particularly critical at this juncture. both israelis and palestinians deserve to be free from violence, intimidation and threats. united states will work to bring the vision closer to reality. >> that's it, ok, so, on that, are you saying that today or even already now since the announcement came out in the last hour actual bans have been imposed? >> we are taking steps to impose. >> they have been? >> they are happening today. and we'll have more coming in the coming days. we expect ultimately for the action to impact dozens of individuals and potentially their family members. >> ok. and then just to put a fine point on this. you say it will also affect palestinians who are implicated in violence against israelis in the west bank or elsewhere, i presume. but palestinians are not included under the visa waiver program. so what's -- what's the impact? >> they can still apply for visas to come to the united states and this program would not be eligible for one. >> right. so, what's the impact on israeli settler who you implicate in violence in terms of them being able to come to the u.s. under visa waiver program. >> they will not be able to, i'll explain how it would work. so, anyone who currently -- any israeli citizen who has a visa to enter the united states will be notified that visa has been revoked. anyone who -- >> hold on, not any israeli -- implicated, targeted in this. >> in this program, i was speaking about this program, so -- >> all right -- >> i that was evident. >> yeah, who knows what goes on. >> fair enough, notified their visa is revoked. any other israeli citizen what does not have a visa will not be notified. if they want to apply to the united states and apply, currently a visa waiver program country, the application will be rejected. they are then able to go and apply for a visa and designated as a result of the program the visa application will be rejected. >> broader implications for israel's membership in bwp? >> no, this is separate from that. >> thanks. >> israeli law enforcement officials now claim they have more than 1500 pieces of evidence that hamas committed sexual abuse, sexual atrocities on october 7th. are you aware of any evidence or claims that hamas sexually abused any americacan citizens or since that day? >> so i'm not going to speak to any evidence that we have about the status of people who have been held hostage. that goes back to our long standing policy of not talking about the status of hostages and what we know about their whereabouts. we never thought it is productive to our work to try to bring them home to do so. i will say i'm not aware of reports with respect to american citizens on october 7th, i'm not aware of them here, but we have seen the evidence the atrocities that hamas committed on october 7th included sexual assault, if you looked at the presentation that was made at the united nations yesterday, it was shocking, horrific, we hope it opens the world's eyes to what happened on october 7th because there was incredibly compelling firsthand accounts from eyewitnesseses and first responders and physicians about hamas's sexual violence against women and girls on that day. >> does the u.s. have any reason to think it possible that hamas could have continued or at any time sexually abused hostages in its capacity, whether they are american or not? >> i'm not going to speak to what we know about the status of hostages inside gaza. as i said, we never thought it's productive to our efforts to bring them home. >> yesterday you told us that the biden administration state supports the israeli ongoing investigation into this. can you share any more detail or clarity about like does the u.s. support that effort in spirit or are you sort of materially helping in the investigation? >> we support the investigation, if they asked for substantive support, i'm sure we would of course be willing and open and ready to assist. i don't know that that request will come in. these are events that happened inside israel so think about how you conduct that type of criminal investigation, people who were on the ground with conduct it and israel has full capacity to do so. we would assist in any way that was useful. >> last question. the parents of evan, said the president will do whatever to get him home but they are disappointed at this point it appears the administration has not done so. can you share any about state's efforts? >> i will say i saw that interview and what his family is going through is unimaginable. i don't think any of us who have children, it's hard to imagine your child being held as evan has been for months now. should have been released long time ago. we have made multiple proposals for his release as well as for the release of paul whelan. we are consistently, or constantly discussing this issue with our allies and our partners who can assist us. not a week goes by without intense activity to bring paul and evan home and i will say that in recent weeks we made a new and significant proposal to secure paul and evan's release. that proposal was rejected by russia. shouldn't have to make these proposals, they never should have been arrested in the first place, they should both be released immediately, but made a number of proposals, including in recent weeks and will work every day to bring evan gershkovich and paul whelan home. no higher priority for the sent of state and the president. >> can you give us details -- >> sandra: mark penn, former clinton adviser and pollster, and kelly anne conway, former trump counselor, a series of questions, kellyanne and mark, welcome to both of you, from our reporter gillian turner about obviously the atrocities committed against women, israeli women by hamas. this is really something considering this exchange that just happened this morning with president biden's press secretary, karine jean-pierre, she was pressed and punted twice by the way by the ladies of "the view" on sitting congresswoman jayapal's comments on hamas's sexual violence against women. watch that exchange, your reaction. >> rep jayapal saying we need to be balanced in our criticism, interpreted by many, myself include, to downplays the horrors of october 7th. does the white house support this resolution and do you think the representative needs to clarify her remark. >> i'm going to let the representative speak for herself. i didn't speak for her, i speak for the president of the united states, i am the press secretary, that's who you speak for. >> do you think as her perch as a progressive leader she should clarify her remarks. >> i have to speak for the president, she can speak for herself. >> sandra: no, we don't support her comments. why would the white house not be able to condemn jayapal's remarks? >> why the white house has 63% disapproval rating on biden's handling of foreign policy and specifically in israel. look, rape is not political. rape is vile. it should not be difficult for anyone to condemn it. all karine jean-pierre had to say is i'm sitting here on a tv show, i'm going to condemn it as karine jean-pierre. she could say whatever she wants and i think it's very unfortunate that we have all the rising antisemitism on our college campuses but sandra and mark, it's rooted in the democratic party, it's in the halls of congress. 22 members of congress, all five members of the squad that doesn't do squat, they voted against a resolution to condemn hamas. who did the raping, who broke the pelvises, who beheaded the people. this is not difficult and it certainly shouldn't be political and why there is tripartisan opposition, majority of democrats, republicans and independents the way biden, harris and karine jean-pierre are handling the issues. >> sandra: briana joy gray, she is bernie sanders' former campaign manager, a big microphone, also hosts a youtube channel, about a million viewers, you know, every hour tuning into her. she tweeted this. believe all women when she's questioning the atrocities committed towards women by hamas, believe all women was always an absurd overreach, she tweets. women should be heard, claims should be investigated but evidence is required. the same is true of the allegations out of israel. but also this isn't a believe women scenario because no female victims have offered testimony. it's almost hard to believe, mark, that that is real. >> yeah, i mean, let me just say that i -- what jay powell said, i think the tweet is obviously ridiculous. ample evidence, you can even see it in the terrorists' own video taping of the atrocities committed, you saw sheryl sandberg demand, and hillary clinton demand the same thing. the u.n. and the women's groups have remained in silent of the overwhelming evidence of atrocities committed by hamas. no doubt about that. >> sandra: this is moran sterday, she was at the meeting at the u.n., slamming the women's groups for not standing up and rising up and speaking out against this. >> u.n. women organization, they didn't speak and when it did, they did it too little too late. rape is rape. you can't context rape, even if it doesn't fit your narrative, even if you don't like the israeli government, it doesn't matter. what happened to israeli women can't happen anywhere in any conflict area in the world. >> sandra: running out of time, kellyanne, but hard to imagine why every female group across the land can't say the same. final thought. >> they have always had a moral equivalent who is doing the blaming, and they are all about abortion, not something as simple as rape that can be condemned. i think it's a time for non-partisan condemnation what we know to be true. i'll believe the women who were beheaded and raped and cannot speak for themselves. >> sandra: thank you. appreciate it. >> bret: breaking news on capitol hill, tommy tuberville, he had the blockade of military nominees because he was holding out to get a change in abortion policy at the pentagon, he said, he just told the press a few moments ago on capitol hill he is ending that blockade, clearing the way for hundreds now of these nominees to be approved. he is leaving, however, a hold on promotions for four stars, he told reporters seconds ago that he didn't get enough in return. he said we didn't get the win we wanted, we still got the bad abortion policy, tried to stand up for the taxpayers. he is again lifting hundreds of nominees, they will go forward, but he is still holding just a handful of four star promotions to make his point still about pentagon abortion policy. >> sandra: shocking footage of the virginia house explosion that happened while officers were executing a search warrant. now we are set to get an update from officials as they try to figure out exactly what happened there. we will bring you there live when the update begins. >> bret: plus house republicans are hoping to hold an official vote for impeachment inquiry into president biden. how strong is their case? andy mccarthy is here to break it all down. with the freestyle libre 2 system know your glucose level and where it's headed without fingersticks. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your 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>> bret, good afternoon to you. we are seeing a lot of frustration from the migrants who feel that border patrol is taking too long to pick them up and get them out of this area. a live look at the scene, hundreds upon hundreds of adult men have crossed illegally waiting here in the arizona sun for border patrol to apprehend them and they hope be released into the united states somewhere. but lukeville where we are, literally the middle of nowhere, the closest major city over two hours away, so it is taking border patrol a while, a lot of men from africa coming in from all over the world, a chance to talk to two guys, and they are here for opportunity, one had this message for joe biden. >> i love you, joe biden, thank you for everything, joe biden. i want to be good person here in the united states. >> i came here because i want quality of life, you know, america is a land of opportunity. >> take a look at this remarkable video we shot in lukeville yesterday afternoon. one of the many breaches in the border patrol. border patrol and federal contractors were on scene trying to fix it when there was a huge russia of illegal immigrants pushing through to get into the country before it was fixed, taking advantage of it. and a human smuggler dressed in black on the other side of the wall. 1 his clientele is through, looks at the camera, gives us a shrug and salutes us and walks away, that's the situation here, back out here live, frustrated, everybody out here processing, they try to patch a hole in the wall, it's cut immediately after. their morale is rock bottom, frustrated, they need more help from the federal government. arizona has a democratic governor, she has not sent down the national guard or any troopers to help out the federal government down here. that's the opposite of what we have seen in the state of texas with governor greg abbott. back to you. >> bret: bill melugin, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: kicking off a brand-new hour now, and any moment now, ve

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