you on sunday we got to go real quick. >> this is the warm-up for the sunday event which goes off at about 10 minutes after 5:00 in downtown stamford. there will be a few thousand people below us. we got all santa and all his cast of characters going down the building with us. it's an amazing event. great for the kids. a ton of fun. >> adam: we are getting wrapped. you and i will be on the wall we will talk more here coming up in the next hour. we are going to do. this we're doing this and i will be part of the show. let me put this on. back to you guys. >> ainsley: you are so brave. >> brian: good job, adam. hope you survive. talk to you soon. [laughter] >> ainsley: the second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ >> brian: we didn't know right now. we thought there might be a little animation. i was going ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] >> lawrence: let's get you some food. you know where we are at? we are in georgia? how about those dawgs? what's happening. what's happening? thank you, thank you. what's happening, georgia? [cheers and applause] reason we are in georgia because georgia has become somewhat of a swing state. ron desantis and gavin newsom had a big debate. i don't know how ron desantis could stomach gavin newsom and all the lies he told on the stage last night. it was lie after lie. and sean hannity did something that hasn't been done at any debate. he put the chart up of all the numbers of what happens in florida and what happens in what happens in california. ainsley and brian, he still denied it. >> ainsley: yeah, they were comparing cdc numbers and he is that's not true and newsom was saying that and ron desantis is like cdc? democrats love the cdc. these are the numbers. these are the facts. they gave us these numbers. still disputing that ron desantis in congress voted for amnesty did not do that said it was john boehner's bill. john boehner was out of congress in 2015. goat in into congress in 2018. the bill extended extended three years. that wasn't investigating for amnesty. that shows house deep he had to get in order to find a vulnerability when it comes to immigration. man are democrats vulnerable when it comes to the border. for those people who missed it, here is a little of the sparring and the cop picks from schools to crime to covid they didn't agree. watch. >> it's also important to respect parental rights to know what curriculum is being used in the classroom and everything should be age-appropriate. i actually have something that i brought that some parents have objected to. so this is a book that's in some of the schools in california, florida, this is not consistent with our standards called gender queer. some of it is blacked out. you would not be able to put this on air. this is pornography. this is a ginned up, made up issue to divide this country. you talk about dividing this country. part of the culture war. >> the weaponization of grievance. we are focusing on math, science. we are focusing on reimagining our schools. >> sean: going to get to education next. >> criminalizing teachers and front -- >> check out the wrong book. >> you had more kids locked out of school for a longer period of time in california than anywhere else in the country. it was the working class kids. middle income kids. his kids were in private school they were in class. >> we have one of the best records under covid during covid and, again, you didn't answer to the fact you had. >> morgan: learning loss, ron desantis had more learning loss during cody, fourth grade reading, fourth grade math, 8th grade reading and math. we outperformed you. >> ainsley: that's not true. we talked about the numbers yesterday, right, lawrence? we held up -- we went on that big board over there and showed efficiency in math yesterday and the numbers were better in florida this the is time where parents were figuring out what was being taught to their kids. there was a point in the debate and we played that in the flashback there where he is questioning -- ron desantis brings one of the books and he says do you support this? pornography being taught to our kids and all newsom does is accuse desantis of being a hateful person. never addressing should kids be having that material in their classroom. so it was really a debate of facts vs. emotions. and i just wonder if the independent voters are going to buy the slick guy or are they going to buy the facts that happened in florida. >> i don't think desantis is vulnerable on covid. is he not vulnerable when it comes to taxes, zero tax in the state. people come there because they want additional opportunities. is he not vulnerable on illegal immigration. they thought it was gavin newsom's thought process that bring out mash thapsz vineyard and sending those illegal immigrants to martha's vineyard was bad. i'm saying underline that say it again. because it was great. it was a an awareness that the illegal immigration problem is coming to a doorstep near you. it is not a border state issue anymore. i thought he did the country a service where i would think the people on the left would say so bad. beautiful area of the country. they quickly scooped them up and put them on a military base. >> ainsley: i thought there were several sing zingers from each side. when you are watching this with a group of people and you hear everyone gasp you know that was effective. and i think that gavin newsom, he went down to -- did you all hear him give this laundry list of all the things he had done in california when it comes to clean energy, when it comes to this or that. and then desantis' response was classic. he said well, i met this guy the other day and he said he moved from california down to florida we were talking about why he did that and then he pauses and he says by the way i'm gavin newsom's father-in-law. he said your own father-in-law moved to my state. then gavin newsom, he said because trump is doing so well in the polls, he said we have profound differences. that's something we have in common. but neither one of us will be a presidential nominee. >> lawrence: yeah, it's so interesting, ainsley. and we got to think about it. there's a record for ron desantis not just it's a conservative state. lower taxes. but, remember, he was able to flip some traditionally blue counties in florida and bring them over to the republican side the question is can gavin newsom do the same thing. there were some moments where can you see the contention there also what i appreciate about sean hannity i'm not saying this because he is my mentor. he allowed them to duke it out. sometimes the moderators want to be present and they want to dominate the stage would want to see them debate the ideas. he let them go at it and let them present their vision for america he let the whole thing go long. he had the power. welcome, everybody. >> it's 10:38. supposed to be finished at 10:30. let them continue to talk. >> i know. >> here's the exchange at the end where they tried to be nice to each other navy lt. to go to coronado, i had not spent any real time in california in my life. florida native. i'm very proud of the state. i got down there and that strand is one of the most beautiful places i have ever been. it really helped forge me as an individual and as an american. and so i always have very, very fond memories of that nice strand down there in southern california. >> i have no doubt ron desantis loves this country. i love this country. it's not about red vs. blue it's red, white, and blue the united states of america. i appreciate you, ron, being a family man. you got three incredible kids. i appreciate your wife of. yoursacrifice and appreciate yor military service. i do appreciate we have fundamental differences about the fate and future of this country. >> brian: it's good to hash it out. >> ainsley: i thought it was a nice way to end it. it was positive. >> brian: lawrence, final thought before we promo your big interview? >> >> lawrence: it's our big interview. you know, we are one big happy family. i would say this still got a primary going on don't know in joe biden is going to be the nominee. maybe if it's not this election, we could very well be looking at the nominee's for both parties at one point in time. it could be this elections. or whether or not either one of them become president this term. it we could be looking at sean hannity may have mod ter rated a debate between the next president of the united states. ron desantis is going to be joining us later on this hour and we can't wait. >> brian: right. because you have all those court cases, too. we have not had one caucus or primary yet and people are acting like it's over. it's really not. still too early. if you ask president trump, he says they are going to look great in 28. >> ainsley: i loved watching that last night ari fleischer afterwards he said democrats from mars and republicans are from venus. sums it up. very different. different on all the issues. both of them could be president one day. they both of them are qualified for different reasons. but it just shows you how divided our country is. >> >> it really does. 10 minutes after the top of the hour. >> ainsley: a fox news alert. cease-fire is officially over with rocket fire in gaza and disturbing new information as israeli officials are confirming that hamas branded and drugged their child hostages. general jack keane on the war ahead, next. brian? >> brian: but, first, you saw lawrence there in georgia and he is talking to voters. l.j., what are they telling you now? >> lawrence: let's talk about it, sir. who do you think won the debate last night? >> ron desantis. >> lawrence: why? >> ron desantis talked about the issues and all gavin newsom did was put people in categories for everyone to further divide us. >> ma'am, you are a trump supporter. who do you think won the debate last night? >> i didn't watch the debates. i didn't even watch the debate don't need to watch the debate. we already know who is going to be the president. we already got our nominee. >> lawrence: you already got your nominee? >> no need to watch? >> don't need to watch it. >> lawrence: you are a ron desantis supporter. who do you think won last night? >> i think ron desantis crushed gavin newsom. >> lawrence: thank you so much. we got more "fox & friends." ron desantis will join us live in alpharetta, georgia. more information coming up. ♪ ♪ my most important kitchen tool? 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>> we know from the outset that hamas completely changed its tactics on october the 7th. focus on killing civilians vs. the idf and then taking wholesale hostages to include women, children, and also barbaric treatment of them as it's now unfolding. it's not surprising but it's certainly profoundly disappointing. these people are monsters and i believed national leadership in israel has got it right. we have got to eliminate the effectiveness of this organization as a military terrorist organization and certainly as a government in gaza. and the john is job is over in . >> brian: they told a lot of the civilians to go to the south. they are opening up an evacuation zone to rafah theying going in con eunice. i apologize if i didn't say that correctly. the satellites in the sky are the drones flying. they saw possibly where a lot of these hostages came out from and maybe poised to do a rescue operation for the rest. is that just me hoping or is that plausible? >> i think it's very challenging, certainly hamas is very much aware of the potential of something like that. one, even if we have some sense of where we are, can we get in there and get them out without harm to them? certainly hamas at the point of confrontation, they know someone is coming for them. they would likely kill them. that's normal for hostage-takers. so, yeah, this is a challenging operation. i think the most likely one is the one -- is the path we have been on. it's in hamas' interest to use the hostages as leverage to delay israel's operational campaign and, two, to protect the regime leaders at the end of this thing. that is why they are going to hold on to a certain tranche of them, to guarantee that these leaders are going to live on. whether that actually happens or not remains to be seen. >> brian: general, the word is from our administration to the israelis, don't do in the south what you did in the north. go into the building, don't blow it up from the sky. be more precise with your attacks to avoid civilian casualties. how -- if you are israel, how do you take that advice? >> well, first of all, israel is always going to listen to the united states because the united states is their indispensable ally. they would have a very difficult time going it alone without the support of the united states. and they fully know that my concern is what is the united states saying? i think supporting israel in the campaign, the president started out that correctly. getting into the details of how they execute their campaign, that, i think, belongs to israel and their leaders. and the kind of counsel we should give them they already know, conduct military operations and protect as many civilians you possibly can in the execution of that operation and let israel execute the details of that plan. we don't need to get into micromanaging them as i think we likely really are. when we are making public statements and telling the american people the advice we are giving to the israelis. >> brian: that's crazy. >> i don't think we should have those public disclosures. let the israelis run the campaign. they certainly are very much aware of the civilian -- the potential for civilian casualties in the south. >> brian: i hear you. general jack keane always educational thank you so much. appreciate. >> it you guys have great weekend. thank you. >> brian: the war portion is back. coming up on one nation this weekend. actor eric stonestreet. pete hegseth who i met in person. clay travis and tyrus with his brand new book is going to be here. coming up on the teddy and booker t. tour. dallas george w. bush. fairhope, alabama on saturday. see you all in person. signing teddy and booker t. special on fox nation right now. up next, lawrence has a special guest at eggs up grill in georgia. it is the -- okay. there you see it. there goes your tease, lawrence. >> lawrence: yeah, brian. 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