watters primetime." >> he is weakens masquerading. >> stop pussyfooting around. >> newsom, what it means. >> sammy the bull has an idea, he's here. >> i was patriot of the mafia, i loved it and protected it and i'd kill for it. [screaming] >> jesse: how the palestinians stole christmas. plus -- >> my boss got bit by a dog. >> i'm sorry. >> you know what the worst part was? >> what? >> the dog was a democrat. [laughter] >> jesse: fox news alert, brand new developments in the biden bribery scandal, remember joe biden cashed $40,000 check that came from china? >> 40,000 in laundered china money landed in joe biden's personal bank account in the form of a check. >> jesse: the white houses his brother was paying joe back. a money laundering investigator blew the whistle. in 2018, this money laundering investigator was flagging hunter biden's accounts like crazy. hunter was designated pep, politically person. hunter demanded chinese pay the bribe and threatened the chinese his dad was in the room. the chinese sent $5 million the next week and hunter told the bank it was a loan. the money laundering investigator called this unusual and erratic since the llc does not have any investment projects at this time, raising concern as millions in fees are being paid and does not appear to have services rendered, that is bank lingo for bribe. the money laundering investigator added hunter biden put his family in a hole which opened him to china targeting children of politicians and purchase of political influence through sweetheart deals. the money laundering investigator finished with this, the activity on the account appears unusual with no current business purpose and may require reevaluation of the bank's relationship with the customer. that is bank lingo for chinese are bribing the vice president's family and we should tell them to bank somewhere else so we don't find ourselves under federal investigation for money laundering. the fbi and cia and the bank knew they were taking bribes and laundering cash and no one did anything. that tells me biden is a puppet or he's being blackmailed or he's a made man. save your breath, you got nothing on me, you know it, i know it. i'm changing dollar bills, that's all. do you want to waste my time? okay, i call my lawyer. he is the best lawyer in miami. he's such a good lawyer that by tomorrow morning you going to be working in alaska. so dress warm. >> jesse: here now notorious mobster sammy the bull. how you doing, sammy? >> i'm doing pretty good, i saw -- heard your opening monologue and it's incredible, incredible story. i mean, it's mind-blowing, i don't understand how the country is sitting back listening to these things and no aksz being taken. if you want my opinion, there are so many guys that i know who would go to prison for 20 to lifetime sentences for this kind of stuff and when it comes from the president, vice president and people like that, it is beyond theft, it's treason to a country. when i was younger in the military treason is something you face the death penalty for because you are robbing every man, woman and child, every race, black, white, hispanic, asian. you can't get a more disgusting crime than this. i've been hearing it over and over again. and i don't understand why there is no action, certain people like yourself talking about it and i'm very proud of you. i know a lot of people in the media industry, men and women, through the years and they are good people, they went to colleges and universities, to come out and stop things like this and protect us small people and yet they do nothing. i know why they do nothing, i spoke to a lot of them. i will not mention names, but a lot of them, they are a single mom or have a job that is paying well, their bosses won't let them talk and if they do talk, they get fired. it's a shame. so as far as what you are doing and talking about and saying openly and honestly and bravely, may i say that, so -- >> jesse: you're saying the biden family's treasonous and that the feds know they're dealing with a treasonous family, but many honest people in the federal government are afraid to speak out because they will be fired and destroyed? >> yes, without a doubt. i cooperated years ago, everybody knows with fbi and federal government and prosecutors, john gleason and different judges. they were so honest, it was unbelievable. i was proud to be with them for a while, i am still friends with some of them. they have fold me they are embarrassed to tell people they are fbi agent. i said, don't feel like that, get out, and do something about it. don't sit back. not just them, any one individual, talking about the whole country. if we allow this, our forefathers died for this country. i am a veteran, i go to the va hospital and see people walking around without a leg or arm, they fought for us, died for us, lost parts of their body for us, how do you think these people feel when they go home and look in the mirror, everything they gave and we sit back and do nothing. i don't care how much power they have on their side, we have the people, the people are the power. if we don't talk, don't say something, then we're part of it, we become complicit with what is going on. so that is how i feel about it. i feel strongly about it, now that i changed my life, i fight for a lot of things, open borders, people pouring in invading our country by the millions, not tens of thousands, millions and we do nothing. >> jesse: i never thought i would hear an inspiring patriotic speech from sammy the bull tonight on primetime, i think you are saying things people agree with and you paid the price, served your time and i think what you are telling me, you are seeing things that mirror what you did and what you were involved with back in the day. >> it is true. we did things, i don't even want to compare, we are like choir boys compared to these people. we always had a thing about protecting the public. i talk about people and i have friends in new york and family and they turn around and say, sammy, it was so much better when the mafia was in control in new york, things that are going on. i see the lighting of the tree. these things are so important, not for religion or anything like that, it is so festive and brings love and respect. they used to be hundreds of thousands of people lighting the trees and looking at macy's window and it brought love to your heart, no matter how bad of a person you are. now i'm seeing riots and things going on, how do you have the audaci ty to come to this country and do this and you're getting away with it is mindblowing. >> jesse: we need to bring back love and upon are, not sure we would have to bring back the mob if we would take things ourselves. great talking to you. merry christmas, i know it is early to say that, thank you for joining us on >> jesse:. >> thank you so much, my pleasure and i watched you years ago when you would interview people coming out of colleges and running around, you are a main person now and doing a great job, you did it from day one up until now, continue it, it is my pleasure to talk to you, anything i can do for you, let me know. >> jesse: i'll let you know, i appreciate that. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> jesse: why senator dick durbin covering up for jeffrey epstein, a dead child trafficker and senator marsha blackburn tried to subpoena eshg pstein log today and it was blocked, why can't we see who was on his jet or went to his island? 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[cha [chanting] >> shame on you. shame on you. shame on you. >> jesse: columbia called the confrontation respectful, hillary called it an airstrike, but was convinced not to. hillary is not special, rockefeller center was surrounded by a palestinian mob, demonstration to flood the tree lighting for gaza. watch. [chanting] >> palestine will be free. free, free palestine. free, free palestine. >> jesse: the mob was blocked from disrupting the christmas tree lighting and got violence, clashing with police. one point, palestinians tried to rip an american flag away from a new yorker, who needed a police escort after radicals surrounded him. >> jesse: seven palestinian supporters were arrested, but that did not slow things down. one protester stole a cop's hat, lit it on fire and paraded it throughout the street. >> what do you want? >> when do you want it? >> when do you want it? >> now. [chanting] >> jesse: if you expected to hear about this attack against american's time-honored christmas tradition, you are out of luck, msnbc, cnn, nbc dedicated zero minutes to violent protesters that targeted christmas in midtown manhattan, in the media capital of the world. why ignore muslim violence in their own frontyard. am i going to have to save christmas again? why do you think the press covers this muslim violence up? >> it's been clear when it comes to this, they have aligned themselves with left-leaning media and will never show the truth and the other half sold out. if they show you what protests truly, which is antiamerican, they will lose well meaning moderates they claim to be centrist for. >> jesse: they are anticop, antichristmas, they are antichristmas, you do not disrupt the christmas tree lighting in midtown manhattan. you can't do that. this was an attack against america, against religion and against police and no one wanted to talk about it. when you see violence like this as a jewish american, does it frighten you? >> it frightens me, it does not surprise me. what we saw earlier with hillary clinton, i was at nyu and they hated everything. she was heckled there. they align causes with each other and end of the day, it is antiamerica agenda. >> jesse: this is antiamericanism? >> i do. i feel unsave, but there are well meaning americans. when they protest christmas it reminds me i'm not by myself, it is not antisemitism issue, it is antiamerican issue. >> jesse: you said something during the break, i asked when hanukkah was and you said next week, you said you celebrate christmas. are you allowed to celebrate christmas and are we allowed to celebrate hanukkah? one thing and the other. >> we are a melting pot, jewish don't exactly celebrate christmas, as jew living in americas, i love christmas time. >> jesse: are you getting a tree? >> i am not. >> jesse: thank you, happy hanukkah. another guy tried to provoke mike tyson, he is now shaking him down. mike, mike -- k-d my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose new neuriva ultra. unlike some others, it supports 7 brain health indicators, including mental alertness from one serving. to help keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. hi, i'm ben and i've lost 60 pounds on golo. 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[barking] >> who do we have here? >> milo. >> you want to say anything? >> he is purring. >> is he going to bite me? >> jupiter. ad. like ada hutchinson. >> ada, i call him ada, don't ask me why. >> bulldog. >> grey houn. >> she's a rescue from mazatlan, mexico. >> mexico is sending their best. some i assume are good people. >> is she friendly? >> democrat or republican? >> independent. >> he would take other dogs balls. that has to hurt. >> they are toys. he likes to hump everything, it can be a lot to play with if you are not in the mood. ♪ >> does she do tricks? >> sit and spin. can you spin? we can dance if we want to. >> like "dancing with the stars." >> exactly. [humming] [barking] >> is your dog your favorite family member? >> my dog is my favorite creature on the planet. this is my whole life, this is what i have now. >> i will lick you in front of everyone. >> you know what they say, owners look like their dogs. they say she is cute, i will take that as a compliment. >> we dress alike. >> you are not twins. >> has your dog bitten anyone? >> yes, they deserve it. >> they will bite my boyfriend and me in a fun way. she bit the groomer when she was trying to clip her nails, supposedly. >> you don't believe them? >> i wasn't there. >> my boss got bit by a dog. >> i'm sorry, that is horrible. >> i am disgusted you would laugh at that. >> i'm okay, is he okay? >> he doesn't know. >> whoa. >> you should take over the show, i think. >> you know the worst part, the dog was a democrat. >> okay. >> what should you do if a dog bites you? >> get checked for rabies. >> you think he has it? >> probably, yeah. >> call 911. tell that woman to train her dog better? 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>> i think i would not vote for biden. >> jesse: wall street doesn't want a cup of joe and they put him in the white house. >> i think biden has done a lot of good things, but i think his legacy will not be a good one if he's the nominee. i think the right thing for biden to do is step aside and say he's not going to run and create opportunity for competition -- >> why do you think that? >> i think he is past his prime in meaningful way, it is full-time job and you need to be strong, you need to be at your intellectual best and i don't think biden is there. >> jesse: even cuomo wants a cup of joe, considering sipping on don. >> we survived a trump administration, would we survive another one? >> yes, i don't think there is greater risk with him than with biden, data is data, nobody was trying to kill us when trump was president, if anything there is more hostility. >> you are open to trump? >> i am always open, people say you have never voted for a republican in your life, wrong. not only have i, first vote i ever cast was for a republican. >> jesse: today the "washington post" put it bluntly, biden's quote, one major health issue or one small slip on the stairs from losing the white house, the "washington post"s democratic voters ought to wash the newsom-desantis debate in case they should wake up one day and find themselves in the market. watch fox tonight because newsom is the backup plan, autonot kamala, the secret is out, next time biden falls, newsom is the nominee. in less than 10 minutes, sean hannity will monitor the red versus blue state debate, ron desantis against gavin newsom, they have been talking trash like a prize fight. >> i think i'm being generous, small and pathetic, very generous, he is just weakness masquerading strength, he is flailing, desperate for attention. >> stop pussyfooting around, are you going to throw your hat in the ring and challenge joe? 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desantis to go afternoon gavin newsom on handling of covid-19, mandates, lockdown, crime and homelessness, the cost of living in california, the mass exodus of people leaving california. you can expect newsom to go after desantis on abortion, social issues, transporting migrants around the country. gavin newsom called ron desantis a small, pathetic man and said has campaign is belly flopping against donald trump and ron desantis says gavin newsom hair gel is interfering with brain function and he's responsible for all the people leaving the state of california and going to red states like texas and his state of florida. we went into the debate hall, cool setup, both candidates will be standing six to eight feet apart, only "hannity," no crowd. each person's side, each governor's side is customized for their side, gavin newsom has a california flag and california bear and picture of the l.a. skyline and hollywood sign and ron desantis has a picture of the florida city with the florida seal, as well. they have been itching to get at each other, going at it online and on tv and tonight they can put up or shut up, they will be face-to-face, eye to eye, national audience to draw contrast between liberalism with two top governors. >> jesse: thanks, bill. let's bring in a political analyst and former advisor for bernie sanders. okay, you are a democrat, you are watching tonight's debate, what are you looking for? first of all, i'm excited to see this, there should be more of this. there should be the opportunity for people to debate their ideas and i agree when i say both are benefiting from this, desantis gets an opportunity to sell himself and not share time with chris christie or nikki haley or other candidates to show he can stand out. he hasn't had that opportunity and newsom gets an opportunity to defend himself and be able to talk about his left ideas and see if it can land and be clear about it, he's trying out for either vp position or trying out to be the democratic nominee in 2024 or 2028 and to be honest, give him 10 points for coming to fox news, i've been coming for seven years and people criticize me each and every time, i tell democrat and independent friends, i go where you will never go. for the simple fact he is willing to come to fox and take both of them at the same time, i commend him. >> jesse: if he has a good night, will you say get joe out of here? >> i have been saying it, i think democrats need a better candidate, they have decided that biden is their candidate, so they will have to select him in order to have an opportunity, let him do a good job and put pressure on and see what democrats do. >> jesse: thank you. here now anchor and executive editor of "the story," martha maccallum. she is open and looking for action out of gavin newsom. what does gavin and ron need to do? >> i'm fascinated listening to all of this, you have jamie diamond saying democrats should look at nikki haley. you have all of these barriers breaking down, the "washington post" saying, watch fox tonight and look at what is going on. there is hunger for an alternative to trump and biden, we know that based on the number 60 to 70% want other choices. if they have trump and biden, we know what the numbers look like at this point and trump is in great shape when it comes to the republican nomination process. no doubt. big opportunity for ron desantis, he is six weeks from iowa, both are struggling for second place. nikki haley had a good week. ron desantis is good going head-to-head with someone with a different ideology. newsom, their goal, two governors that have a lot in common in a lot of ways and different in terms of philosophy about government, small government, big government. it will be interesting to see them duke it out. people will say, why don't we have more options, it will be a big night and we'll watch them duke it outcoming up soon. >> jesse: if you're desantis, can't you say your state is a mess, everyone is leaving, there is homeless everywhere, you had to clean up for the chinese. can't you just point and say, what are you doing? >> yeah, he will, he absolutely will do that and then you will hear the counter punch there is no freedom in florida, abortion issues, all of that you will hear from gavin newsom, he has a tough argument to make with border and education. he is really preaching to democrats tonight saying, you have other options out there, i'm waiting, watch what i can do. >> jesse: he can't be too good or there will be civil war. thank you so much. sean hannity is next! thank you for doing this, sean. ♪ ♪

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