airport hours and hours earlier and be prepared for any contingency. >> if you have to go to the airport, you better plan ahead, at least 3 to 4 hours ahead of time. >> wet weather from the south to the northeast could impact some on time arrivals and departures. some folks say that's why travelling early pays off. >> more people want to work right up to the last minute and then get their flight and it's congested and hectic and i would rather enjoy my time with family and friends without the stress of it all. >> a current look across the country right now, more than 2,000 delays and 28 cancellations today in the u.s.. denver, los angeles, phoenix, the top three trouble spots, but john, fortunately no widespread delays or disruptions to tell you about. back to you. >> john: at this point, but a lot can change, casey. >> at this point, it can. >> john: two major developments in the middle east as we await a pentagon briefing any moment announcement u.s. killed several militants in a retaliatory airstrike in iraq. and there was a vehicle attack on a u.s. base. 65th attack on our troops since last month. this is the first u.s. strike in iraq since the attack started. >> sandra: the biden administration says a deal to free dozens of hostages from hamas is nearing the finish line. >> we are very close to an agreement, but we are not there yet. as you have heard us say a number of times over the course of the past few weeks, nothing is final until everything is final, and at this point everything is not yet final. >> john: i'm john roberts in washington as we have a lot of breaking news this afternoon. hi again, sandra. >> sandra: welcome, everyone. this is "america reports". that deal could come any moment now, there are reports it would free 50 israeli women and children in exchange for 150 palestinian prisoners. >> john: and all happen during a multi-day ceasefire that could last as long as five days and maybe beyond that. what would that look like and would a ceasefire give hamas a leg up to reposition its fighters. we will ask retired lieutenant colonel daniel davis in just moments. >> sandra: jeff paul is on the ground live in southern israel to kick things off this hour, jeff. >> yeah, sandra, and it is a critical time right now in this war. we are standing by and watching closely what happens during this meeting involving israeli government officials. they could potentially vote to approve a hostage deal at the same time that is all happening the chief of hamas earlier today saying they are "close to a truce" now exactly what that would look like, that could be developing as the minutes tick on, the hours tick on, during these tense negotiations. but as we understand, roughly 50 israeli hostages, women and children, would be exchanged for a multi-day pause. it could get aid into gaza, included fuel, food and clean water. yesterday some of the families of the hostages met with israeli war cabinet members. demanding not only answers as to what's going on but want the israeli government to act now to bring all the hostages home. but the idf told fox news israel is trying to negotiate with a violent terrorist group so right now there are no guarantees. >> until we see things with our own eyes and get our hands on whatever or whomever we get out, we cannot be certain of anything happening. >> while the negotiations continue, the fighting does as well. the idf says they have encircled the city of jabalia, considered the last stronghold in northern gaza. israeli forces hit the area with heavy artillery, as well as airstrikes and added that soldiers found as many as three more tunnel shafts but as it stands here on the ground there, is no deal, but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier said he's hoping for good news and for that to happen soon. >> sandra: jeff paul reporting live from southern israel, john. >> john: daniel davis, i want to put up this map, the latest tally of attacks against u.s. forces by iranian proxies in the middle east. they are up to 65 attacks now, and you see right there in the middle of iraq, the al-asad air base. there was a vehicle attack against that air base, a spector gun ship, c-130 was dispatched to the area and took out a vehicle that was responsible for that attack, killing a number of iranian proxy fighters at the same time. this would appear to be probably the hardest punch in the nose that we have hit these iranian proxies with. do you think this will dissuade them or will they keep attacking us? >> no, 0 chance -- there will be no deterring. they are committed to continue doing this as you have seen every time we have had the airstrikes or whether it was this one here that actually hit the people that did it. so, certainly good in that point finally, if you are going to go after somebody, go after the guys who are attacking the americans and not building somewhere which don't deter anyone. but the fact is, these are going to continue and reading some comments from the region, especially those in iraq, they are saying they are going to continue to do this, they are trying to suck the united states into more conflict and they want to try to tie them down. they are not going to stop, and it will continue on until i fear one of us gets killed. >> john: also seems as though hezbollah has tried to suck israel into a deeper conflict in the north. it helped up its harassment of idf forces, almost kind of goading them to come across the border and give hezbollah a chance to enter the war fully. rear admiral said, lebanon citizens will bear the cost of recklessness of hezbollah to be defender of hamas-isis. idf has operational plans for changing the security situation in the north. the u.s. has been keeping a lid on this war expanding. do you expect that it can do that, or at some point will the idf say enough is enough, we are going after hezbollah? >> that is a constant stress and pressure on the israeli government for sure. the number of attacks yesterday was 18 coming from hezbollah into the south. it's starting to really aggravate the israeli civilians living in the area or within range of that, putting pressure on the government but we are putting pressure on them to prevent that, to not expand this war and it's hard for israel to stay, and i believe what they are saying that they have plans to go in there. they have done it on a full-out war in 2006 and i'm sure they have plans to do that. but that is going to be playing into the hands of many in the region and like some of these arab regimes or some of these arab groups that are trying to draw us in, they are also trying to do that, because their intent is to spread this out so it becomes a region wide war and draws more arab support into the palestinian side ultimately and we have to be disciplined to do everything we can to prevent that because we will not win if that happens. >> john: and colonel, pause with us for a second, sabrina singh is talking about the attack outside al-asad. >> one other topic, so not the first time you have responded but i think the building has been -- announced basically all the other strikes and said it's a weapons storage facility or training facility and if people have been killed it has been kind of because of the strike, not because they were targeted specifically. so you are not saying that like these specific militants -- do you have any idea who the militants were? >> we know they are iranian-backed militia members but again, just to differentiate, we have taken three strikes in self-defense, but those were preplanned. so a little different here in terms of the nuance of how we are talking about this self-defense strike early morning our time, eastern time. we were able to identify the point of origin of these attacks because ac 130 was in the area and it was able to respond. we do read out any retaliatory or self-defense strikes we take but put these into separate buckets as we talk about them. >> retaliatory strike. >> yes, but it was not planned. there was an ac130 up in the air to defend point of origin and respond. >> as negotiations for hostage release continue, part of what has been negotiated is there might be a pullback of any surveillance. does this include u.s. surveillance systems with the u.s. pull back its drones? >> i think you saw the president speak to this earlier today, while we are certainly heartened by the way the conversations are going, there is still not a deal reached until there is one, i'm not going to get ahead of anything that we will or won't do when it comes to isr or anything that we are doing when it comes to hostage recovery. we are assisting with that from the embassy, of course, but i don't have more details and don't want to get ahead of any deal that might happen. >> whether or not it's part of it, is that one of the options? >> i'm not going to get into further details on that. >> thank you, sabrina. north korea, successfully placed a spy satellite into orbit? >> we are aware of the dprk launch of a space launch vehicle and consulting with iraq and japan and other regional allies and partners. so i can confirm that we are aware of that, but still assessing the success of the launch. >> how do you assess the new spy satellite potentially -- >> john: as we veer off into north korea here, the news that this was not a planned retaliatory strike, colonel davis, it just happened to be retaliation of opportunity. there was a c130 gun ship in the area over al-asad air base when the attack happened and the 65th attack, it was a vehicle -- i don't want to say it was a vehicle-born attack, because the vehicle was not a part of the attack, it just contained militants inside it. c130 identified the target and took it out. they knew they were going after iranian proxy personnel and not just a weapons storage facility. so, this would seem to be a retaliation of a different sort rather than saying we are sick and tired of this, let's plan some targets to hit. we just got hit, take 'em out. >> yeah, i thought it was odd they are trying to make some distinction. i don't understand what the benefit of that s. i imagine the gun ship was up in the air as a result of these increased defensive positions that secretary austin has been talking about of late that they are going to give more defensive capabilities, air defense and now air power is also on the ground and if they identified a target coming after america, absolutely take them out. that's what they should be doing. i'm not sure why she's trying to distinguish between planned and unplanned, it should be a benefit and positive thing. >> john: trying to interpret was the u.s. was absorbing the first set of attacks and said ok, enough, let's give 'em a brushback pitch, which did not seem to brush them back at all. and then this one was we got 'em on the run, we know where they are, we have the asset in the air, let's send 'em a message. that's just me interpretation of it. something else that's happening in terms of, and we are talking about potential escalation to the north. we have some escalation in the south now, houthi rebels are brazenly, and they video taped the whole thing, took over an israeli flagged cargo ship. what benjamin netanyahu said about that. >> these people have no qualms atang peaceful shipping on the high seas, no qualms using hospitals as military installations, no qualms about shooting their rockets into civilian areas trying to kill as many innocent civilians, this is our enemy. >> john: the houthis are ramping it up, are we going to run interference for israel on the high seas? >> this is kind of what we were talking about the u.s. interest to keep it contained in gaza and white house is putting more emphasis and pressure on the netanyahu government that they cannot be killing innocent civilian on the palestine side for collateral damage or whatever word, they have to be better at what they are doing, that's inflaming the region. and so you see what's going on in iraq with this happening, what's going on with hezbollah, and now all of a sudden allies in yemen are trying to step up and lots of people want to take action against israel and it is gonna get harder and harder to keep this war from escalating in a way that could draw us in. and it just is not in our interest if that happens. so i hope we don't get into running interference, that's going to put us in position to draw them in by having to destroy targets in yemen and now that's going to open up a new front against us. it has the chance to spiral out and we have to be careful here. >> a lot of balls in the air at the moment. lieutenant colonel dan davis, good to get your thoughts. appreciate it. >> always my pleasure. >> sandra: the white house says they are hopeful the hostage deal will happen, a mother of two little girls held captive by hamas cannot wait any longer. she is begging the u.s., israel, red cross, and other organizations to help bring her to gaza. writing every passing hour feels like an hour closer to the phone call telling me that they have not survived. let's bring in roger zachheim, former assistant secretary of defense, thank you for being here. what do you want to tell us we are waiting for any sign this deal is going to happen and at least 50 hostages will be turned over. >> i think it's what you are hearing from the reporting you are showing earlier, accomplishment to get a deal but the deal can go away with the blink of an eye. hamas is not an honest broker, and so every step of the way anything could change. 15 hostages would be fantastic, and women with urgent medical needs, and a priority for the united states, not just israel. at least ten u.s. citizens held hostage in gaza. that's an american priority. so not just something for the israeli cabinet to focus on, but a focus of the president of the united states. >> sandra: bring this into the discussion, i spoke to the israeli president isaac herzog yesterday he talked about what it's like dealing with hamas to make a deal and get this done. listen. >> we are all waiting and we are dealing on the opposite side with a leadership of hamas, led by a man basically a psychopath in the way he operates. so, nothing that you and i can say real changes the picture. we are all waiting for what is the basic humanitarian deed, which is releasing the children and the women and of course all the rest of the hostages. >> sandra: dealing with a psychopath. how can they have any faith that hamas, even if they agree to this deal, they'll come through with it. >> trust and verify, dealing with the political leadership in qatar, it's unclear to what extent the leadership in qatar can influence events on the ground. and there was always a possibility that they are exploiting these opportunities to advance hamas militarily. so you make the deal not because it's in hamas's interest but because of israel's interest get the hostages out, humanitarian, and american interests, but nothing gives us guarantee it's going to play out in gaza. >> sandra: as so many have said in the hours leading up to where it happens, a ceasefire benefits hamas. >> israel has a sense of the battlefield, they are on the ground and could pretty much mitigate the risk of the ceasefire to make sure that it's not going to disadvantage them militarily, why they would go into it. there's been discussion whether drones will continue operating above, but other tools israel has for intelligence, particularly because they have people on the ground. so, whatever they are giving up, you can image and carry on operations if the ceasefire goes to an end, and it's not a five-day guarantee, or four, it's going to be daily if not hourly, whether it's disadvantaging israel's interests. >> sandra: how do you manage the risk of the prisoners released, 150 of them for the hostage swap. >> always a recurring concern when you enter, for one they gave 1,000, and the israeli population has felt it was not the right decision. it's a decision of the cabinet in israel, not just the prime minister. >> sandra: we were given a picture of the israeli war cabinet engaged in these negotiations and discussions we know is happening right now behind closed doors and you wonder how much time passes and the more time that passes, what would that tell you? >> it does beyond the war cabinet, it has to go to the full cabinet. news reports that elements of the current cabinet will resign over the deal but it takes time and discussion and deliberation, and they are talking about a ceasefire the same time the rockets pound on the coast, this is very complicated but the right call for israel to prioritize making a deal to get hostages out, israeli decision, not something for the west to impose. >> sandra: the picture i just referenced, we are told it's the war cabinet meeting right now on the hostage negotiations, this is what they have released to us and we have it on the screen now. that is an update to the situation. it's about all we have right now. the white house is optimistic, they said, the pentagon, sait department, the pentagon still briefing right now, israeli officials optimistic, but obviously acknowledging just how difficult and sensitive this is. thank you so much, roger. good to see you. >> john: right now we are monitoring the pentagon press briefing as israel's government considers that deal that could rescue dozens of hostages being held by hamas and iranian proxies launch at least 66 attacks against u.s. troops in the middle east. we will bring you any new developments as they are announced. >> sandra: and america's airports are already packed with thanksgiving travelers. that looks pretty civil, pretty organized. we spoke to a few people hoping to make it home to their families in time. >> got here really early. >> five hours. >> get to the airport two hours early. always somebody in the line that seems to not know all the rules. . treat it that way with aveeno® daily moisture. formulated with nourishing, prebiotic oat. it's clinically proven to moisturize dry skin for 24 hours. aveeno® ♪ if you're on medicare, remember, the annual enrollment period is here. the time to choose your coverage begins october 15th and ends december 7th. so call unitedhealthcare and see how you can get more of what matters, with our broad range of plans including an aarp medicare advantage plan from unitedhealthcare. it can combine your hospital and doctor coverage with part d prescription drug coverage, and more, all in one simple plan. these plans are made to support your whole health with $0 annual physical exams, $0 lab tests and $0 preventive care like mammograms and colonoscopies. and you'll get more for your medicare dollar with $0 copays on most covered dental services a $0 eye exam and an allowance for eyewear plus $0 copays on hundreds of prescriptions, at the pharmacy or by mail. now's the time to look at unitedhealthcare's variety of plans. so give us a call to learn more about coverage options in your area. with our right plan promise, you have our commitment to helping you find the right plan for your needs. and to help make life with medicare simpler, you'll get the all-in-one member ucard. only from unitedhealthcare, the ucard is your unitedhealthcare member id and much more. show your ucard when you visit your primary care provider, dentist or eye doctor, or fill a prescription at the pharmacy. and use it to access medicare advantage's largest national network of providers. you can count on unitedhealthcare to help you get the care you need, when you need it. enrollment ends december 7th. now's the time to learn more about america's most chosen medicare advantage plans and how they can open doors to a simpler healthcare experience with the all-in-one ucard. call unitedhealthcare today about the only medicare advantage plans with the aarp name and get more of what matters to you. 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checkpoint at the american terminal in philadelphia. yeah, this is what's coming, this week, maybe you take a look at the numbers. that's because this is kind of the worst time for that storm to happen because, take a look, 4 some million travelers between now and sunday, and that's going to be what the government says is an all time record. oh, look at this lady here. >> you are so cute. >> oh, you are kidding? >> no, i would never kid you. >> your husband said i could take you to jupiter. >> i don't have a husband. he's my driver. >> oh, ok. >> yeah, porsche driver. >> you have a porsche? >> of course, don't you? >> i don't, and i am way off track. you have thrown me for one. you have thrown me for a loop here. >> well, you are great. >> well, thank you, back at you. she's going to jupiter, i'm told. i assume florida, as opposed to next to mars. might be saturn, i don't know the order of the planets anymore v. a great time. john, i totally lost my train of thought here, but there you go. the other thing i was going to say, a storm, we have pictures in mississippi, nothing catastrophic, but look up the coast, and i think that's all i've got, i'm going to go check out this lady and see how, where she's going and about that porsche. happy thanksgiving. >> john: in thatting. -- happy thanksgiving. maybe she's going to pluto, mississippi. i want to see a live shot of him through the tsa checkpoint. >> sandra: he gave a full live report going backwards down an escalator, remarkable. >> john: i mentioned at the top and said he came upwards. and now he lost his train of thought as the lady told him he was cute. good stuff with jeff flock at the airport. good luck to fliers out there. a closer look at the thanksgiving storm, how it may affect your travel plans. adam is joining us now, hi, adam. >> it's an impossible act to follow, i don't have an escalator, it's going to be a tough one. all those showers that jeff was talking about, moving across the southeast, moving towards the mid atlantic, some of that may become severe, not huge storms but enough in some airports, atlanta a big hub, charlotte, the storms are sweeping across. in the yellow, delays are, and tied to where the weather system is sweeping across the country. ultimately it does move up into new england so just lifting across the i-95 corridor, by the time you get into tomorrow afternoon, so wednesday afternoon, besides boston, you've largely cleared out with the system and the good news is, once this pushes on off to the east coast, really look behind it and things are gorgeous. so, a really nice thanksgiving forecast for a whole lot of folks. just some snow back in the rockies. but otherwise, a really nice thanksgiving. i just hope folks can get home here over the next 24/48 hours. >> sandra: your act was just fine, not like jeff flock going backward down the escalator, appreciate it. >> john: we want to go back toth pentagon briefing, some now developments in the attack, apparently a short range ballistic missile was used, likely would have been fired from a vehicle and then retaliatory strike by the c130 gun ship against that which killed a number of militants responsible for firing off that missile. rejoin sabrina singh and see if we can get more details. >> the kinetic action you saw last night the u.s. military took was in response to a direct attack happening on our base. >> and you pointed out, 66 attacks by iranian-backed militia groups since october 17th. why aren't the counter strikes working as a deterrent strategy? >> i would push back on that. i know 66 is a high number. but we have days sometimes we don't have attacks. would you say the strategy is not working if one day goes by with no attack on u.s. forces, i'm not saying that's the way to caveat it, but we will respond when we feel at the time and place of our choosing that we need to respond. we have three times already. we did again last night. i wouldn't say that again, it's not working, i would say that we are being very deliberate in our strikes and what we target. these groups, while -- have inflicted some minor damage to infrastructure, right now we are seeing nonserious injuries, minor damage to infrastructure, in comparison to weapons facilities being destroyed, command and control center being leveled, and so again, and another, i'm sorry, a training facility also destroyed. so, again, if you look at the scope and the ability for us to respond, we have been very precise and have inflicted a lot of damage. >> change the subject. the army recently sent out a letter to about 2,000 soldiers discharged for their refusal to take the covid vaccine. gives them the opportunity to come back into the military. do you know if this is going to be done wide or other services will do this as well. >> i'm sorry, i have not seen the letter, i would refer you to the army. >> beyond the army. >> i'm hesitant to comment because i have not seen the letter and the contents of it, so refer you for more specifics to the army. >> going back to north korea, so they have sent satellites that have gone into orbit in the past. did this one enter the orbit? >> i don't have more on that. i think that's something we are still assessing. >> thanks, sabrina. two questions. clarify for me, the kinetic action last night, the gun ship was already in the air, ok. thank you. and mike was asking about the letter that may have gn out to others to get back service personnel. there's been reports that the action by the pentagon was illegal because the covid vaccine had not yet been approved by the fda. have you heard anything about this? >> i am sorry, i have not. >> ok, thank you. >> thanks, sabrina. quick follow-up on the north korea satellite. have you guys assessed specifically if it's a military satellite at this point? >> nope, all i have for you is that we know a space launch vehicle but that's all i have. >> on the matter in gaza, of course you know the north, the whole gaza strip is one of the world's mostly densely populated areas and with the people going southward the population density has increased even more in the south. so i know you said like it's not our operation but it's your weapons that the israeli government is, or the army is using there. so the last week you said that even though you are providing these weapons with no restrictions, but still you are following if any weapon given by the united states to any ally around the world should be used according to the international law and to look for the humanitarian issue as well. so, in this frame, do you have any special contact with your israeli counterpart and do you follow up to avoid any civilian casualties, increased civilian casualties since the numbers are bigger than before in the south now? >> yeah, so thanks for the question and i think two in there, so just taking them apart. again, with any partner or ally that we give or we supply our military weapons to, we expect them to follow the laws of armed conflict as we do as well, and uphold humanitarian laws. we don't put conditions on how they are used we do expect them to be used in accordance with how we would use them as well. so i think that's an important distinction to make. and then i think your second question was on the population and the potential operation that could happen in the south, if i'm -- >> using the weapons there on a higher density population in the south could create a bigger risk than before. so -- >> right, that's right. that's not something that we want to see, of course. we want to see -- we know there are innocent civilians that have moved from the north into the south of gaza, seeking refuge, seeking security and so again it's something that the secretary continues to speak with gallant about, and we have not seen an operation happen, we have not seen exactly what it could look like, so it's prudent to just, you know, i don't want to speculate on anything that could happen in the south, but i think it is important to remember that in all of our conversations with the israelis we are absolutely reiterating the need to uphold humanitarian laws and the law of armed conflict. >> the risk is there, so do you contact them before something happens or -- >> we do not control and we are not embedded in their operations. but i think it is important and i know i've said this before, but i think it's important to remember that hamas uses civilians as shields to conduct their own operations and to hide their command and control centers, to hide ammunitions and weapons depots, in highly populated civilian areas. so again, while we are going to continue to still have conversations with our israeli counterparts about the need to protect and preserve innocent lives, we can't forget that hamas is putting innocent people at risk. matt. >> thank you, sabrina. on the ac130, you said it was in the air at the time, was that by chance in the region or loitering in the area in anticipation of a potential attack from a group. >> i'm not going to get into more specifics why or when it was in the area, but it was in the area. >> and you said it had eyes on the militants. did you say that it was viewing them before the attack or saw the attack actually occur and if so, was it in position to perhaps prevent the launch of that missile? >> i don't believe it was in position to prevent. i believe it was in the air and saw it happen in realtime. yeah. >> john kirby also said today that iran is considering giving russia with ballistic missiles -- >> john: the deputy press secretary sabrina singh, the news in there this afternoon that this was the very first time that a short range ballistic missile has been employed against a u.s. facility. i assume that would have been a vehicle-borne missile, a mobile launcher taken out by a c130 gun ship almost immediately after the launch. >> sandra: right, and we are still waiting for confirmation of a deal for the hostages gets done, so monitoring that, and also anything coming directly from israel as their war cabinet continues to meet, john. >> john: all right. pro palestinian rallies are growing across the united states with big names failing to condemn hamas while spewing anti-israel rhetoric. it's causing many jewish people to say they feel less protected and more isolated in the u.s. than ever. let's bring in "new york post" columnist and the author of "stolen youth" karol markowitz. one incident highlights where the nation is going, a recent rally, pro palestinian, anti-israel, susan sarandon, the actress, said this. >> there are a lot of people that are afraid, afraid of being jewish at this time and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a muslim in this country. so often subjected to violence. >> john: jews are afraid because they are getting a taste of what it means to be a muslim in this country. she was almost immediately dropped by her talent agency, uta, united talent agency because of it and just thinking that you know, perhaps jews are sensitive about the rise in antisemitism in the united states because they remember that not too long ago 6 million of them were brutally murdered at the hands of the nazis. >> yeah, absolutely, that's a large part of it that we are all have the historic lessons, my family is from the soviet union, and russia, so, yeah, absolutely that weighs very heavily on us. what i would say about susan sarandon, she seems gleeful about the violence against jewish people in this country and note, that yes, violence against jews is an all-time high in 2023. it was also in 2022, also at an al time high in 2021, and the number one most targeted group. so the idea that oh, now we understand what muslims have been going through is absurd. i would also add that for anybody who wants to destroy israel like susan sarandon does, the attacks on jews in america only make us believe in the existence of israel and must exist even stronger. we always thought jews needed a safe haven, just didn't think it was for us. i think she's stepping on her own point, she doesn't care about the palestinians, she just hates jews. >> john: and another issue at play, a lot of women's groups in the united states are staying silent about the crimes that hamas perpetrated against israeli women. it led cheryl sand burg to write this, we have come so far believing survivors of rape and assault and so many situations yet this time many are ignoring the story these bodies tell us how these women spent the last moment of their lives. the silence on these war crimes is deafening. speak to the fact that women's groups in america are not coming out, outraged against what happens, denouncing hamas, denouncing war crimes. >> for the last decade or so as we wrote in the book "stolen youth," institutions and universities have been captured by the woke leftist influence and susan sandburg is now realizing the liberals she supported, she thought she was part of the club, they don't consider her a part of the club and the fact is they consider jews to be a totally separate category. they see the world in oppressors and oppressed, and israeli as oppressors. i hope it's a wake-up call for anybody who thinks violence against women is wrong, no matter what religion they are, the left has a really serious problem where they have a warped world view and that this world view has been spreading over the last decade and now is the perfect time to really stop it, to really motivate to stop it. the idea that these crimes against women are just being ignored by these groups, it's not an accident. it is by design. they have put their world view stamp on everything and in this situation they have decided that the victims of these crimes are the oppressors. so i like that, you know. >> john: and just to put a button on this, sandburg, says she's a supporter of a two-state solution with israel and the palestinians adds we must denounce these rapes in every conversation and rally and on signs held on every street corner. we must forget our conflicting politics and remember our common humanity. good to catch up with you. appreciate your thoughts. >> sandra: benjamin hall making an emotional return to ukraine the first time since he narrowly survived a russian attack while covering the invasion last year. and had a chance to interview ukrainian president zelenskyy, awarded him with the order of merit. benjamin joins us from london and great to see you and here in new york last week. what an honor, and for president zelenskyy to sit down with you. >> thank you. pay respects to pierre and sasha who died last year, but we wanted to talk about how the war was changing, positives and negatives. personally the trip was emotional, and me getting on to the train in ukraine. >> last time i got on this train i was barely alive, badly injured. but we made it out the other side and today's the day that we are going back. >> so we spoke with president cell ski and the interview will air at 6:00 p.m. tonight and said many things. first and foremost, the eyes of the world are moving away from ukraine, heavily focused on israel, and hurting ukraine. he said russia was pushing towards world war iii and one of the worst months ukraine has seen. not a lot of benefit on the counteroffensive, he had difficulty getting weapons, upset at how congress was holding back some of the money. so it's very interesting to speak to him and made it clear this was not the time for a peace deal in ukraine. and he was personal as well. opened up about his family, too. he doesn't see them as often as he used to. sometimes his children cry when they see him and he has to be strong in return, and despite the war he sometimes had to find a way to laugh with them. >> when you want to support your children or your life, and sometimes your parents, you have to -- to show that -- sometimes find some jokes about it. jokes help. >> more than anything, he wanted to remind people the war in ukraine was ongoing. some say there is a stalemate, he pushed back on that, but acknowledged many years to come ahead. >> sandra: a remarkable interview, benjamin. watching for that to air tonight at 6:00 on "special report." before you go, what was that -- those initial moments back there like for you? what was -- what was sort of your initial thoughts that came over? >> yeah, i suppose the one thing that i was a bit emotional about was the train in. the train on the way out is one of the hardest parts for me, it was really difficult, no pain killers, he was badly injured. but when i got on the train i found out a whole lot of strength insid. reminded me of everything we have gone through, and i got off the train feeling so i men'sly strong that you can be pushed down, bad things happen, but you get up, you go back to where you came from and i remembered the colleagues that passed away, but remembered we work together it will not stop. >> sandra: those amazing stories are told in your book, it's an incredible, all of them are incredible stories. benjamin, honored to call you a friend and colleague. thank you so much. and we'll be watching tonight, 6:00. >> thanks. >> john: breaking news and fox news alert, city college of new york harlem campus has been closed due to an unnamed threat. all classes have been canceled for the rest of the day as of 1:00. they told students to go home. it will be open again tomorrow, though, no classes are planned. we don't know the nature of the threat but the city college of new york, colin powell's alma mater, closed because of a threat and closed for the rest of the day. >> sandra: americans hit a shopping slump, retailers are bringing back discounts to a point we have not seen since the pandemic. a look where you can get the best bargains and what it means it's happening. >> john: hosting thanksgiving comes with many responsibilities, including ca ching, the cost. how the high prices for this year's thanksgiving meal are 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>> john: how much of a discount can you get on a diamond these days? i'd like to know. >> are you in the market? >> john: thanks, madison. am i in the market? no. just wondering. >> sandra: it's a good market to watch. it can be indicative of where the economy is. >> john: that's the reason why i'm wondering. >> sandra: there you go. thanks to madison. the white house is celebrating lower prices, maybe not on diamonds, this holiday. thanksgiving dinner is still costing americans 25% more than before the pandemic. 25% more, a lending tree report is revealing 60% of americans say inflation is impacting their plans this thanksgiving with some families regretting hosting. let's bring in charlie gasparino. really, when you -- i know you love to cook. when you hit the grocery store and fill up the cart, i feel like every time there's sticker shock. you get to the checkout lane and you think, what is in there? you end up with a few bags when you get home and spend hundreds of dollars. >> i know. it's ridiculous. this spin from the white house is really ridiculous. they're basically fibbing. prices are still high. the rate of inflation is going down. and the scary part of this economy is while prices are still high and the rate of inflation is going down, prices are going up more marginally. your wages aren't keeping track with that. if you look at wage rates. they have stalled out. so that is -- >> robert wolf just pointed out, wages are outpacing inflation so far this year. however, real wage growth is still negative down 3%. since this president took office. >> till this year. >> this year, 2023, wages are outpacing -- >> it's hard not given what was going on. listen, i just -- that's kind of a -- >> sandra: we're getting into the weeds. >> a non sequitur for robert. it almost doesn't matter. okay? american people understand that prices are still high. their wages are still below where they were years ago. and therefore, you know, whatever marginal benefit they're getting right now is not getting reflected in the polling. listen, you think people are saying they hate this economy because they love it and everybody is watching fox news? we're brainwashing them? this is real stuff. >> sandra: this is a remarkable thing. this is empower report. charlie, stand by. how much does your annual salary need to be for you to feel happy and less stressed? this is the "wall street journal" that wrote about the pay raise people say they need to be happy. it's pretty remarkable when you look at it. >> sandra: i'll tell you. it's hard to read. most people said it would take a significant pay bump to deliver contentment. the respondents that had a median salary of 65,000 a year, they say 95,000 would make them happy. the highest earners with 250,000 gave a median response of $350,000. if you make 250 a year, you still say you need another 100,000. >> depends where you live if you make 250 and have a family on long island you think you're living large? you're getting crushed by taxes, inflation, the high cost of living on the northeast. so really does depend where you live. if you live in a big blue states that robert wolf loves so much, you're getting -- >> sandra: come on. >> i can't say that they say you should be feeling better. >> sandra: he was not defending. he says glass half full. there's some things to be optimistic about. >> after wages got like crushed. they're up a little bit. i feel better. >> sandra: back to the original story. there's more and more people regretting hosts because they see how much it cost. >> you don't want to be with inlaws. >> sandra: i have a rule. if you have family, always put a friend or two in the mix. people will be on their best behavior. >> sometimes. >> sandra: 60% of americans plan to host or consider hosting thanksgiving. a third say it's a financial strain. so holiday traditions americans are cutting back on. cue, the full screen. the buying gifts for friends. half of respondents say they will cut back. buying new clothes for the holiday. buying decorations, gifts for family. oh, boy. food quantity. start buying less food because it's so expensive. buying gifts for co-workers and hosting parties and dinners. some say they will cut back on hosting because of this. >> i do none of that. no gifts to anybody. >> sandra: we're not surprised. you don't give gifts for family? >> rare. >> sandra: says a lot about you. >> i don't want anything either. >> sandra: what does this tell you? what is your take-away on the any? >> inflation is still killing this country despite what robert wolf said. >> sandra: that's why the white house is changing our tweaking their messaging. they have doubled down on bidenomics and it's just not working in a moment where people are not feeling it. charlie, thanks so much. john, i think we've got some news to get to here? >> john: we do? >> sandra: okay. flagging from the pool, the president has a new interview. he continues to push bidenomics. what am i looking at here? this is from the white house. a brand new interview out. >> john: eight seconds. you're on for thanksgiving. see you next week. >> sandra: i'm going to enjoy my turker and give gifts to friends. thanks for joining us. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts.

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