from washington tonight. trial by error. that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ they might be asking why is public trust in the american judicial system declining? well, it's not simply the blm propaganda, flooding our schools, our universities, that's told young people that disproportionate kin car ration of african-americans equals racism. it's not just that respect for our justice system is also cratering due to democrats' crusade both against trump and against traditional americans in general. now, for the most egregious example, look no further than trump's civil trial in new york brought by trump hating activist letitia james. judge arthur engram who looks like any random legal panelist on msnbc. he went so far as to mock trump's phrase about the perfect phone call. even using air quotes as he said it. now a conversation with the president. let me get this right. a conversation that the president had with zelenskyy is somehow fair game for a fraud trial that deals with actions years ago? look, i saw this and thought nobody will be surprised by. this this guy is a lefty going back to his days an anti vietnam war protester. we all know what is going on here. no case like this has ever been brought in new york overvaluing assets and they are bringing it now only to try to break trump financially. we know it trump never ran for president they never would have targeted him. never would is happened, prim that fascia pork here. the media has made it very clear to any democrat in the doj or the d.a.'s office around the country. joe biden's political opponents by any means a lot application of the law. that's why they there are no cries for prosecuting those pro-hamas nut bags who damaged white house property and historic monuments last weekend. now, imagine, if it had been conservative protesters who tried to scale the white house fence, or who splattered paint on the gates, think of the resources that would have been devoted to arresting every last suspect. well, we already have a pretty good idea, don't we of how they handled protests that they don't approve of? they do things like carry out early morning raids on the homes of elderly january 6th suspects who committed no acts of violence. >> and 6:00 in the morning i hear boom, boom, boom, boom. fbi, open the door. open the door or we'll knock it down. one was pointing an assault rifle at my head, about four feet away. said please step outside. i stepped outside. they handcuffed me. i said what is this about? they said search warrant. they never produced one. they never showed it. >> 9:00 in the morning, i am on my bed, doing my emails, which i usually do. i can hear some ruckus going on in the other room. i'm curious, so i get up, come around the corner, and i hear somebody barking hands up, fbi. they proceeded to handcuff me. gave me no reasons why. no search warrant. god forbid they present a search warrant. >> laura: they also launched a massive made for tv manhunt. this happens almost after two years after january 6th. >> the fbi says they arrested a january 6th defendant after a major policeman hunt? >> yeah. that's right. he was a knowledge national guard member who was charged with felonies in connection with the january 6th attack. he was there at the at that point toll. gregory is his name. when the fbi went to arrest him he fled and there was a massive manhunt in new jersey. >> laura: how many times can they say massive manhunt. okay, this week, just to give you a sense of the resources spent. federal, state and local law enforcement, yeah, huge resources were used in this attempt to arrest this former new jersey national guardsman wanted for allegedly picking up a can of pepper spray and using it against capitol police and other protesters. this guy gregory yetman, 46 years of age turned himself in without incident. the fbi made its point, didn't it? and by the way this was all done to arrest an individual who hot local mayor said was no threat to the community. which begs the question. why did they need to deploy swat teams, police canines, calling the helicopters, road blocks, all of that? why did they need to do that? well, many americans get it, right? they see it for what it is. this is a two-tiered system of justice. arresting this guy was such a big display of force is a message to all of you. not worth attending a rally, any kind of rally. now, was it in any way proportional that the head of the proud boys who wasn't even at the capitol on january 6th was handed a sentence of 22 years in federal prison? the prosecutors said that the sentence was no, i do not deter others who were, quote: unhappy with the results of future elections. huh. well, how many fentanyl drug dealers whose pills have killed people get that kind of sentence? just last month, the dealer linked to the deadly pill sold to actor michael k. williams, he got a measly 5 years in federal prison. five years for selling a deadly drug that killed man so why have gang members. we have drug dealers, rapists, child molesters, murderers and, perhaps, each terrorists who have crossed our southern border. and, yet, the biden administration they don't seem to care about that. >> there is 280-something people on the terrorist watch list. are they out of the country or are they in the country? >> senator, they very well may be out of the country. >> but you don't know. >> laura: but they know where those january 6th people are i mean, they don't care about the border crossers because that narrative is bad for them, politically. yet, not so with the january 6th cases because they are key to biden's campaign. thus, the doj is still expending massive resources on those cases. >> they have seen about 1,200 cases thus far. 1,000 other people have been identified. on top of that a thousand others who aren't identified yet who could face charges. the statute of limitations expires in early 2026. >> laura: look, as long as the democrats think that this helps them politically, they are going to keep this charade going. when true threats to society run free. this simply makes us trust them less, though. if that's possible at this point. and that's the angle. joining me now is mike davis, founder of the article iii project and former clerk for justice gorsuch, also with me is sol wisenberg former deputy independent counsel and fox news contributor. mike, want to start with you. let's get back to this judge in new york. i think he actually is doing the public a favor in a way. and maybe trump, just revealing how biased not only he is but this entire case being brought against president trump. because, if it's covered at all, i think most people see what's going on here. >> first, i want to commend congresswoman elise stefanik. she filed an ethics complaint against this judge today. because he is blatantly biased and he has horrific judicial temperament. and it's very clear that between this democrat attorney general tish james and this democrat judge engoron, they are railroading president trump in new york and they are going to try to bankrupt him and destroy his business and this is part of the democrats' lawfare and election interference. >> laura: sol, you called the proceeding clownish. explain that for us. >> well, the proceeding is clownish because the judge is a clown. he is obviously biased. look, laura i want your viewers to understand. this this is the absolute truth. this case never would have even been brought against anybody other than donald trump. you have no victim. you have no loss. the loans were repaid. the banks never complained about any of this. it is an example -- what they are doing to trump is what they accuse trump for four years of wanting to do. they are doing totally political prosecutions. so, i don't know what else can be said about it. it's truly -- it's truly outrageous. >> laura: well, mike, when you hear him quoting the perfect phone call. has nothing to do with the case. i mean, he was reaching for that. he was looking for a moment, i guess, to be quoted. he seems proud, totally proud of his bias against president trump. and even the other day he said i have heard enough from you. i have heard enough from the defendant. okay, on the stand. okay. that is cool. >> yeah, this judge is a democrat activist. he is a democrat operative, so is his law clerk. this is outlined in stefanik's complaints. this judge started these proceedings by grinning for the cameras. he ruled against president trump. entered summary judgment against president trump before the trial even began. he is holding this show trial and is he clearly going to rule against president trump and unfortunately it looks like judges in new york, such democrat operatives that it looks like the supreme court of the united states may have to step in because president trump is getting railroaded. >> sol, letitia james feels the need to, as the prosecutor, walk out and make comments. pretty much every day. i mean, can you kind of understand trump doing it, but she goes out and she does her little -- her little, you know, her little speech and so she decided to, you know, kind of take after ivanka this week and she said she was clearly involved in negotiating and securing loans, favorable loans for the benefit of the trump organization. for trump and her brothers and herself. almost making the case now about ivanka. i guess she wants the celebrity angle. >> totally inappropriate to do that to somebody who is only a witness. just -- i can't stress enough how inappropriate it is. it's quite -- it's quite a circus. she has gone well beyond -- letitia james far beyond fair comment or fair response to some of the things former president trump has said. and anybody who knows the legal system and is looking at this knows how ridiculous this is. again, these are sophisticated banks that are the supposed victims here that never complained to anybody. they could have set any interest rate they wanted. that's one of their big theories that he got a better interest rate because of supposedly false statements. these people aren't idiots. they could have charged him any interest rate they wanted to. again, it's a farce. >> laura: mike, a question about what we learned today that judge a lien cannon in another trump case denied his request to move that classified docs trial until after the 24 election. but she did say she would reconsider the case schedule early next year so i guess they can make, what, another motion or she is just going to reconsider the same motion early next year? >> well, i think it's going to depend on how quickly the biden justice department can get president trump the records that any defendant is entitled to have in a case. and, remember, this is all part of democrat lawfare against president trump. they impeached him twice for nonsense. they indicted him four times for noncrimes. they are trying to bankrupt his business in new york. and now trying to 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that get in the ballot in many of these really, really tight states, it could cause a problem for the president. >> when you do the electoral math, what happens more often than not with a no labels candidacy is that donald trump gets elected to the white house. >> there will be no country if we don't have historic and epic voting in 2024. >> laura: doug is scared. and those fears are not without merit though because, first, in 2020, just 44,000 votes in georgia, arizona and wisconsin. 44,000 separated biden and trump from a i do in the electoral college. and, second, money is pouring in from rich donors who think biden is on the brink. and i'm not talking brink of victory. >> manchin is affiliated with a group called no labels that is exploring a centrist unity ticket in 2024. they are already on the presidential ballot in 12 states, including several key battle grounds. former house speaker nancy pelosi has called no labels perilous to democracy. biden has called their efforts a mistake. >> laura: i bet. these from the folks at puck. some are whispering about the brokered convention next summer when biden could be convinced by party leaders, people he respects like obama, clyburn, nancy pelosi to step down if his numbers are still dismal. i don't think that's going to happen. but i say if these folks are too pessimistic, joe biden i think is he getting warmed up. i'm looking in the positive side here. there's a lot of good news out there like he is almost able to dress himself. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> laura: that's the guy who is going to be sitting across the table from china's president xi jinping in less than a week. and all indications are that biden is preparing to begin a new era of capitulation. excuse me. cooperation. with china. now, we know the complicated negotiations have basically been done by biden's crack negotiators over the past six months or so, he is just there for the photo op. but we know this. what's going to come out of this will be good for china and terrible for us. because with biden poised to give up key u.s. leverage, probably the major tariffs on chinese imports, xi knows that he can promise and never deliver we're going to help you joe on climate change. is china prepared to blow up the new coal fire plants they built over the last few years? it will never happen. they will dominate ev manufacturing and put our car companies out of business. >> they will do that. joining me now is elbridge colby former secretary of defense under president trump. all right, elbridge, 76% of america thinks we are going in the wrong direction. that's the new "new york times" poll. most americans think biden is too old to be president. but his team is going to determine policy with china that could have profound effects, negative effects on american life for decades to come, right? >> absolutely. and, laura, it's actually interesting, three polls by the "new york times," by bloomberg and cnn, all found also that americans significantly don't trust the president on national security. and i mean, there was an article a couple weeks ago saying that the biden team was going to run the re-election campaign on foreign policy. i'm thinking to myself well, you have got a stalemated war in ukraine according to the ukrainian chief of defense. could be going in russia's favor, if we're not lucky. a big war in the middle east that could expand north korea's icbm and the chinese are still going gang busters on military. you are going to run on that. this also a not been successful. >> laura: meanwhile, china is up to no good as usual in the manufacturing sector with its unfair trade practices and, again, a lot of people on a friday night wouldn't be talking about this but it really is important. it effects pretty much everything that is delivered to us here in the united states. so, they are dumping that you will excess capacity they have. they are ramping up their factory output and dumping it in europe and dumping it in the united sunited states and everys launching investigations into the these unfair trade practices. europe is worried that their car industry is going to get swamped by all this excess product. now, what is the real goal of china here elbridge? is it to get rid of excess capacity or dominate these sectors, ultimately? >> well, the short-term thing may to be get rid of excess capacity. chinese have been pursuing for generations to hollow out the industrial sector of their competitors, above all the united states, which is what has happened. the administration may be saying that they don't want to decouple and they want to keep us in this position of dependency and vulnerability. the chinese are decoupling and the chinese have developed leverage. they have 200 times the ship building. it tells you the state of our industrial base advice have a i have china. >> the bottom line i think for a lot of us, we are seeing america tilt back to the middle east. not that there is not important things happening there. there are a lot of important things, tilting back maybe disproportionately to the middle east and essentially giving asia, for all intents and purposes to xi. i mean, you kind of feel the priority, you know, shift happening if there ever was a priority on asia. >> i mean, i don't think there was really a priority, but i think it's as clear as day now the "new york times" has reported today that asian leaders are starting to get nervous. it's about time. we have been talking about this for two years in the ukraine context. now there is a middle east thing. obviously that's where the attention is going. blink and austin making a little three-point quote reassure the asian allies, obviously the political capital, the money, we have dug ourselves a deep hole in the ukraine conflict and now in deep also in the middle east. i thought it was so telling that the president did not each mention china in his second oval office address that he said was this huge thing and he 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