i'm judge jeannine perot along with jessica. martha mccullum and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." "finally cleaning up san francisco but it's not because they want to fix the crime and drug-filled city for residents. it's all to impress world leaders and top ceos coming to town for a big economic summit next week. the democratic city has refused to lift a finger to address drugs, homelessness and crime but now that joe biden and president g are coming to town next week the roads will be repaved. the streets power washed to get rid of all the graffiti and public transportation stations will have added overnight deep cleaning. it's so obvious what's going on that even liberal california governor gavin newsom admits they are putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. >> i know folks say, oh, they are just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town. that's true. but it's true. but it's also true for months and months and months, prior to apec, we've been having different conversations, and we've raised the bar of expectation. >> folks are saying this is not what i thought it was going to be based on what has been in the media because i think what happens sometimes is a moment, a snapshot, it's not always san francisco. sometimes it's the bay area. some place in some other city, and it's attributed to san francisco so i think we've got and let of unfair press. >> judge pirro: over on the east coast if you try to stand up for victims of crime you may be labeled a criminal yourself. one vigilante opening fire in a subway station in an attempt to scare away a would-be robber threatening to steal a woman's purse. he's now being charged with criminal possession of a firearm and reckless endangerment and is out on $10,000 bail. okay. so jessica, explain why it's more important to clean up the cities and roll out the red carpet for leaders like x ping than for ordinary american taxpayers and do you buy that gavin newsom's we've been working on this for months and months as an excuse for not having done it earlier. >> jessica: it's not just ping. biden is coming, kamala is coming, this is a summit. this happens regularly. when you have someone to come over you clean up. in our homes. >> you remove all the drug dealers. >> i tell brian, you pick up that poop right now. it's unacceptable. that part doesn't surprise me. i do think we've heard, that the way san francisco is, is not acceptable. they will lose their first tier city status from this, and that it's just devastating when you walk around and you see what's going on with the homelessness and drug addiction. so, yes, i do believe him about that. and i hope that this becomes a catalyst for fast-moving change, they say, oh, this is so much nicer. what can we do to make sure this is something that we can maintain in the future? >> judge pirro: you know, martha, one of the things the chinese apparently know from their own version of tik tok as well as from the media coverage that they are doing in china is they say that san francisco looks like and has been branded a "ruin city, hell, a total failure," so the effort to bring in this pacific eo, whatever this is, economic forum, do you think it will last that businesses will invest? >> when it comes to china they understand this kind of cleanup really well. they did it before the beijing olympics. if you remember they basically moved the slum areas, they moved it so everybody's traffic would not see a lot of what exists in their country. so this is a process that x ping is very familiar with, so people don't actually see the way people live there. that's one thing. the other thing is, i think gavin newsom is cleaning up for his election as well. president biden is coming. he has to do a cleanup job and he doesn't want the rest of the country, whose eyes may be on this apec summit for a bit to see the way people are living in that city. i'm reminded also when you talk about economic incentives of the days when new york had a huge turnaround. you had giuliani, and bloomberg who also did an excellent job of policing, tax policy, encouraging businesses to move to new york. lowering regulations, encouraging the police officers, backing law enforcement, giving them the recognition, you know, at every step of the way. you could see it. you just watch it turn around in new york city. so they can do that. it's really not as complicated as i think it might sound. they cleaned up people off the streets. they helped people to get into hospitals and rehab centers which eric adams has said he want to do. i think he got sidelined by a number of things but that's something he said he wanted to do. i think it's cleanup for the 2024 election because we know he's hoping things will shift and he'll be able to run. >> judge pirro: all right, jesse. speaking of crime and what happened with giuliani and followed up by bloomberg, this week we saw a new york city guy who had a job, who was arrested for criminal possession of a weapon, reckless endangerment for trying to help a woman who was being victimized, to say the very least, by someone who was mentally ill at a subway station who was trying to rob her. what i find most interesting about it, jesse is the guy who shot up a warning shot, had a college degree, he's had one job for 17 years, he had to post $10,000 bond. the mentally ill guy who attempted to rob and has been arrested, and is homeless, has no bail. how fair is that? >> jesse: we're living in an age where you're throwing real men in prison and you're letting weak predators get out on bail. and i'm not saying this guy shouldn't have, you know, done what he did. i don't know if he should be licking warning shots off on the subway. maybe i would have put the gun up like this and said scram, vagrant. maybe that could have done the job but the point is this, you're criminalizing masculinity. there is a masculine instinct to protect women who are in a vulnerable position and if you continue to do that year after year what you're going to do is you're going to destroy honor in new york, and if you destroy the police and if you destroy manhood, you're going to see an era of predators, where predators are going to run wild, and all the women and all the liberals will say, wait a second. well, this is the result of what we've been doing over the last several years. and in terms of gavin newsom, the reason you clean up for people when they come over is because you want to show them respect. and if you yourself live in filth, then you don't respect yourself. so if i was a taxpayer in san francisco, they are using my money to show respect to the chinese and not clean up for me. that means the politicians in san francisco do not respect the taxpayers. jessica, they have big summits in chicago and new york and houston. it's not a story when they clean up for people, because they don't have to clean up so much. san francisco has let it fester to the point where cleaning up this much -- >> judge pirro: cesspool -- >> jesse: you don't treat people in chicago like that in terms of quality of life. there is crime. there are not people with needles sticking out their arm as kids walk to school. >> judge pirro: shooting through windows. >> jesse: there is crime but we're talking about quality of life. we wouldn't even have the cameraman go -- he refused to got. he said it's too dirty, too dangerous. >> greg: and you fired him. >> jesse: now he's fired. >> judge pirro: greg, you could talk about crime, xx ping. >> greg: china gets the red carpet. they said they needed to get on the ball us that they are having company. this is more like having childcare services show up, so hide the drugs, put the bruised kids in the back room. this is not about impressing. it's about hiding. they are trying to impress china. why don't you take care of the asians in your city first. there is no shortage of high-profile antiasian crime in san francisco. in 2022 alone there was a 567% increase in reported asian hate crimes and that's what was reported. not actually but reported but here's the big point which, martha, you made. you didn't have to throw a fresh coat of paint on squalor. that was the practice of communist hell holes. we called them poe tempt villages. >> where you construct a facade, when one of our presidents went to china or the uss r, they would sweep up the poor, paint over the decaying eyesores and for a few days the city would p sparkle. we've been asking what happens when liberals take over? they get their communist utopia. they did, a turd with a coat of paint. as for what happened in new york city, we predicted this. when you handcuff police and you release deranged criminals what can a citizen do, mcdowell set at this point, self-defense becomes self help. this is to jesse's point you might feel compelled to help. look what happened to daniel penny. if you step you you get screwed and that is, that changes the way a man thinks, and, jesse. 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>> i think -- >> i think -- honestly, i think i need to be a bit more clear on everything that's going on so i feel like i'm not really qualified to answer that. >> i'm not sure if i have seen anything that shows that that's actually happened, is that correct? >> all right, jessica. >> jesse: what happened there? >> obviously someone wanted to go hang out with their friends and didn't really know what they were going to support. it looks like, the sheer volume of people participating seems like it's just a cool thing to do. we're going out to protest, and i think kids who are doing the more serious stuff like locking kids in libraries at cooper union or what happened at cornell or columbia, you saw columbia has suspended two israeli groups, mit should be doing it for what happened there and that's the perfect refuge for the presidents of these schools. you are allowed free speech but you're not allowed to intimidate. you're not allowed to touch. you have to be respectful in these interactions, but like we talked about yesterday clearly a lot of people are misinformed about this, and i know that the administration is feeling the genocide joe comments. blinken said today we feel like far too many palestinians have died. we all feel that way but that's juxtaposed with the idf that they have gotten 80,000 gazans out safely. and hamas is protesting that so they can be murdered, stashed, you always think about elections, everyone has that on their mind and i was thinking about what you were saying, greg, about the abortion issue and how, if you feel it's a moral issue and if we lose on this, so be it. and i think that supporting israel in this moment is a moment for democrats to say this is a moral issue for us and if we end up alienating part of this base, and frankly looking at the turnout on tuesday i don't think that will be an issue but if joe biden's name makes them feel like genocide joe, you can find someone else to vote for, or you can sit it out, because this is something that's too important. that doesn't mean we don't care about palestinians. it doesn't mean we don't want a two-state solution but if you don't even know about the massacre and what happened on october 7, it doesn't matter to us. >> jesse: greg? >> greg: what you're seeing is a battle between a mental state and a jewish state, right? the war among protestors exists in their heads, marinading in the identity politics and lineage shaming. it exists independent of the present atrocity. as you can see they aren't wear of it because they prefer to live in the past which makes the protestors romantic and free of the gore. hence, all of their warnout catch phrases like occupation and collective punishment. the jews, however, are at war with hamas. it's not in their heads. they removed their heads that war kicked off on october 7, so it's a mental state versus a jewish state which explains why it is here in america because a mental state can move. a mental state can be imported and spread like a delusional contagion which obviously it has. as for the protestors here let's call them what they are. anti-semocrats. that scott adams word. anti-semi-crats. they are the frankenstein coddled by liberals because they were too scared to stand up. how else can you get nonbind air female leftists marching with a group of men, who, if they got in power, would turn on them in an instant. you can say they or them. >> jesse: you said romanticism. martha, there is a romanticism involved in this, i don't know if it's the vietnam era or academicians are telling students to go out there and hit the streets. as you can see they really don't know what they are talking about. >> they are not just crazy kids who are dumb. they are espousing something that is extremely dangerous. they are essentially saying that they want the palestinian hamas organization to be the winner of this situation, and they don't even know what happened on october 7. but that doesn't matter. what matters is that these deeply entrenched organizations, and look at the size that you're seeing now at these things, they are all very formulaic. in the early days we were seeing things that said people wanted a clean world. handmade with stars of david on them. they don't want that message, and these messages are deeply entrenched and very purposeful. believe me, back in iran, they are looking at these scenes and they are feeling like this is a win, right? when you allow hamas to pull up what they did in the post barbaric, there are no words for it. i mean, i watched this video of what they did and there are no words, and their glee around what they did is so deeply disturbing to humanity. so this is not cute or funny or good to hang out at the protests because there is a deep issue underlying here, and a lot of bad people are benefiting from these kids. i swan of them interviewed today and she said, they said, oh, do you think they should let the kidnappers go -- kidnapped people go? what about the hostages? she said, i don't really think it's about that. please do not go holding a sign and walking around at these things. do your homework. figure out what happened, and then if you genuinely want to go out and protest, then do it. but you're feeding into a dangerous narrative here. at least be smart enough to understand what you're talking about. >> greg: dumb and dangerous. >> judge pirro: the truth is these are the same people who vote. okay? when they talk about low information voters, i mean, they are not being disrespectful. this is reality. these kids are, many of them are college students. i mean, if they don't know what happened on october 7, and there is not just one or two interviews of people saying, oh, did something happen on october 7? they have no idea. it is -- it's almost like defining deviancy, in the 1970s or 1980s, where things aren't as bad because the real bad stuff is so much worse. so that, you know what we've got in new york city now are people who are painting and vandalizing police cars and also vandalizing the facade of buildings. nobody is being arrested for this. nobody is being taken in for this. it's just like they allow this to happen, and so we're defining society downward. we're defining our culture down, we're allowing people to be totally out of control for a ridiculous nonsense lie, and that's what it is. it's a lie. the same people, if you can imagine this, as they are beating a pinata of both biden and netanyahu, they are raising the lgbtq flag next to the beating pinata. that's the reality of what's going on. there are people in every time they hit the pinata, the cheers get louder and cllouder and louder. this is almost like a jungle. we're really at the point there is no truth, facts or reality. there is just perception, and the perception is, israel is bad, because we've decided to focus on them as the bad people. we could have been anyone else and it will be the next person but it always seems to be about israel and that's the saddest part of it all. >> can i add quickly to what the judge was saying, someone said something similar to me and it struck a chord. when the americans were held in iraq, 52 of them, we knew their names. >> in 1979. >> we don't talk about the hostages. we don't know about them. there are a few brave moms that are on tv talking about -- >> and they are pulling down the signs so we don't see them. >> i know, but that's on us that we need to talk about the hostages more because you can't have a cease-fire without these people being returned. >> jesse: this veteran's day, a massive initiative to house the heroes. chairman and ceo frank is here to tell us all about it next. ♪ with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ahh, -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein 30 grams protein, one gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals, and nutrients for immune health. 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