put it, many in the media badly screw up when it came to that terrible bombing of the hospital grounds in gaza city. new york times, and the paper was not alone, ran this banner headline: israeli strike kills hundreds in hospital, palestinians say. at least there's that attribution, but that really means hamas said it. the terrorist group that controls the gaza government with, that launched the war with unspeakable atrocities, that that has a long history of deception. well, it turns out the accusation wasn't true. israel never targeted the hospital. what sense would that make in it's hamas that carries out massacres. israeli intelligence said it was an errant rocket fired if from within gaza by the palestinian islamic jihad, and president biden backed that up citing pentagon intelligence. >> based on what i've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you. howard: israel's channel 12 the later showed video of a rocket being launched near the hospital and the explosion outside the building moments later. and even days later, some american outlets are still indulging in he said/she said. facts don't seem to matter in a war on terror. a protests erupted across the middle east by those who don't recognize israel's right to exist. what would have been far better, and some in the media did this, would be to say there's been a terrible explosion at this hospital, we don't know who's responsible, but we'll be back to you as soon as we learn more. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ howard: during his visit to israel, joe biden comforted community leaders and victims of hamas violence and also gave a passionate speech. >> it has brought to the surface painful memories and scars left by millennia of anti-semitism and of genocide of the jewish people. the world watched then, it knew and the world did nothing. we will not stand by and do nothing again. >> everybody knows what hamas does. their whole point is to maximize civilian casualties to create global disgust about the jews. no matter what the jews do, that's what's going to happen. >> president joe biden's trip was more than what you saw, powerful, tangible reaffirmation of the strength and durability of the u.s.-israeli alliance. >> the leaders of egypt, jordan and the somewhat moderate palestinian fatah party, they have all canceled their meetings with joe which is nothing but a complete humiliation for our country and especially the president of the united states. >> in my memory, a president has not been canceled by arab leaders. this is truly considered by just about everybody an unmitigated disaster. >> the situation is obviously a powder keg. and when the media and then lawmakers like rashida tlaib just mindlessly repeat the hamas propaganda, it creates volatility around the world. >> i say, all in all, it was a hell of a great trip for president biden. howard: joining us now to an rise the coverage, mollie hemingway and in las vegas laura fink, ceo of rebel communicationses. mollie, have much of the media especially in the days after the terrible bombing outside the hospital in gaza taken cover, so to speak, by reducing it to one side says this, the other side says that? >> yeah. they have in no way taken responsibility for their own regurgitation of lies from a terrorist organization. when you're covering a war, it is very difficult. there's a fog. even when you're dealing with conventional wars like the one between ukraine and russia. you can have mistakes that way. here we have israel, a democracy with internal criticism and a terrorist organization, a group we've identified as terrorists for 26 years or so which has a track record of lying about casualties, lying about all sorts of things. and even the they didn't, you know, they regurgitated this claim that 500 people were killed and the hospital reduced to rubble. that's something that would be difficult to determine, it would take not just minutes or hours even, but days or weeks to figure out exactly how many people. so even just by the normal journalistic standards, they should not have regurgitated this hamas propaganda, and no one has taken responsibility for the damage they caused by repeating those lies. howard: right. and the hospital itself was barely damaged. ap, cnn, reuters were among those going with the initial blaming of the israelis. laura, when there's footage of a rocket being launched near the hospital and right after that there's an explosion, why don't the media declare, all right, this is no longer contested, israel is not responsible for what happened at the hospital? >> you know, it's clear here that the greater the velocity of the story, the greater that journalism needs to proceed we caution, which is hard to do. what i found particularly striking with that video you referenced, howie, and in the response after the mistakes were made was the lack of accountability and follow-up. and i think that hurts the integrity of media and then people's ability to trust the them particularly in these fragile situations where the repetition of terrorist propaganda has tremendous impact not just here, but especially with the neighboring arab countries. so this was a huge mistake by u.s. media and other international outlets like the bbc and one that i hope they will address. now, i think a lot of credit twos to those that were able to come out and say where their mistakes were made, but those were few and far between. howard: i agree with you about the lack of accountability. and by the way, israeli military also intercepted a phone call between hamas operatives saying it was an islamic jihad rocket. some conservative commentators have hailed the president, did he at least succeed in reassuring israel of rock solid support? >> i think that part went well in part. the biden administration does want to show support to israel, but they also want to have them not do a fully intensive takeover of gaza. howard: exercise restraint, yeah. >> so they have a complicated thing. the hack of success in that trip though should partially be blamed on the media. the failure to get some of these visits was a result of lies and false reporting by the media about who was responsible for what turned out to not even be a strike on a hospital. howard: i agree with you on that. it turned out that, you know, there were those that didn't want to believe the facts, obviously, but it became politically impossible, i think, for the arab leaders to meet with the president. laura, the president did on this trip to tel aviv and in la -- in a later call with egypt's leader, el sisi, win an agreement to allow some humanitarian aid into gaza which began yesterday after delays. because, as you know, there's a mushrooming humanitarian crisis there because of the blockade and also because a half million gaza residents have left the north due to israeli warningses. so can we say that the president did at least accomplish this even though it's a maul fraction of what's needed -- a small fraction of what's needed? >> it's a small frank, but it's a beginning, and i think his physical presence, his ability to use his lifetime of foreign policy experience and leverage that to insure that often enemies talking to one another and getting that aid through to the palestinian people, this is a war that will not just be fought with rockets, it will also be fought with the opinions of people on the ground and the plight of the american -- excuse me, the plight of the palestinian people is central as is the # 1400 israelis who were murdered by a militant terrorist organization. so president biden is working with secretary of state blinken and others to insure that this fragile situation does not if explode further into the region. this a delicate balance. humanitarian aid is critical, and it's currently on the ground getting into palestine. howard: yeah. everything's about not turning it into a wider war, but that's not something the u.s. can control. mollie, the is the press too easy on democratic lawmakers like rashida tlaib who said israel bombed the hospital, slipped away from reporters and spoke at a rally blaming biden and israel for genocide, and it's it's all a lie? >> well, yes, they're very easy on her. those lies told by her and other people have caused major problems. a lot of people in the world falsely believe that israel bombed a hospital, that they did not bomb, because of her lies and is other lies. the used as pop taliban da. there is something -- propaganda. they always like to talk about how there's disruption in the gop. we've got a democrat party that has some of the most radical elements in the world currently sitting in congress, running campuses, running media organizations. and suddenly the media aren't interested in all this internal distrust. howard: that's a fair point. also the example of joe biden standing up in this instance to the far left of his party. laura, it was a huge story, understandably, when hamas released two american hostages, a here and daughter from illinois, because some reaction must have been, see, they're not heartless guys. they're still, of course, holding more than 200 hostages. we can put up a picture, by the way, of the israelis escorting them to safety. obviously, it is news. but are the media in a way being used for hamas propaganda here? >> well, i think really everyone can applaud the release of those two hostages and the work that it took with the qatari government, with the israeli government and all of the unseen work of the biden administration and of these international teams to work to make that happen. we're going to continue to need to see these delicate negotiations happen here while the conflict continues to brew. so it is, in fact, heartening to see that two hostages were released, but it also underscores the fact that there are hundreds more that remain in danger. >> it does feel like there's a little bit of an issue here where we have with the biden administration a complete problem in this region that we did not have urn the previous administration. under the previous administration. and we're told that joe biden is this great diplomat. we have a horrific situation in israel, we also have problems in ukraine and and russia, problems brewing in china. the proof is in the eating of the butted, and this is something that the -- in the pudding, and the media seem to be holding him to a lower standard of what success is in the region versus the trump administration where you had peace accords being signed with countries neighboring israel, where you had a different approach to the palestinian conflict that had resulted in great success for israel and the region as a lowell. that is not coming through in how the media are covering biden, his trip and what he's doing here. howard: yeah. fair point of criticism, i think, is how president biden has a dealt with iran which obviously has been funding, training hamas, hezbollah in lebanon, maybe a second front in the war. on these two women that were released, turns out they are relatives of longtime nbc correspondent mark fletcher who disclosed this on the air, if we can put that up, and probably that's why they were picked over everyone else. but you can, you know, i guess my question to you, laura, is the hatred and hostility in the middle east has been going on for 5,000 years. so i don't know how much of it can with laid at ride ifen's doorstep. -- can at president biden's doorstep. >> i think that's right, howie. i also think i had the privilege of being in israel for a full month and not only staying in tel aviv and jerusalem, but also visiting jordan and visiting the west bank. you can palpably feel the plight of the palestinian people as they exist in this segregated space that is tightly controlled, and i was also present when there were rockets that had to be interrupted by the iron dome and the from skillty of the israeli state. is this is not something that started under joe biden's administration. however it is, we are at an a inflection point where hope arefully we as a united world can come together and address it. howard: hopefully. ahead, peter doocy on the president's trip. but when we come back, why is joe biden suddenly being accessible to journalists? 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-- time for a ceasefiresome. >> look, there's a fundamental difference. israel is going after a group of people who engaged in barbarism that is as consequential as the holocaust. howard: and on the way back from israel, biden spoke to reporters on air force one on the record and on camera. >> not many people thought we could get this done, and not many people want to be associated with failure because had we gone and this failed, then, you know, the united states failed, my presidency failed, etc. which would be a legitimate criticism. howard: and then what was only biden's second prime time oval office address. >> hamas and putin represent different threats, but they share or this in common: they both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy, completely annihilate it. i refuse to let that happen. howard: mollie, i know the media are mostly pro-ukraine, and so what do you make of biden using to value office to pitch $100 billion package including aid to ukraine, aid to israel as well as taiwan and border security saying both countries face annihilation? >> yeah. we learned after the fact that joe biden had wanted to give a speechen on funding for ukraine, and that's because a lot of americans do not really support the massive amounts of funding that are going to that proxy war. but when he announceed the speech, i think people reasonably assumed it was going to be a speech on israel, and and it seemed like he kind of tacked on that israel portion to talk what he really wanted to talk about which was his desire that we continue to really increase the funding to that war in ukraine that already people think, $150 billion, that's a lot. he's asking for $60 billion more. a little bit of a confused speech, but i think they could have telegraphed what was happening better. howard: there were some leaks before the speech, and clearly the president felt like he was trying to tie the two together. 20 million people watched that address, laura, but in an age where people get their news from facebook and tiktok and group chats, is the speech from the white house still an effective form of communication? >> well, with a disago a regated media environment is, there's no one strategy you can pursue that is going to be deemed highly effective. but it's certainly something that biden, president biden rose to the occasion on. the oval office address continues to have gravity even when it is sliced and diced and distributed over social media. and president biden was making the cause for funding for ukraine -- the case for funding for ukraine, funding for israel and taiwan and border security. this is really about american national security, and that was his message to the american people, that investing in these areas now will secure potentially other conflicts from coming up and that, ultimately, are to the benefit of the american people. he will continue to make that case as the weeks and months ahead. what he has to contend with though is the kiss function -- dysfunction and the disarray of republicans as they continue to fail to even be a modicum of leadership in the house. howard: okay. that was certainly his message, but there is a lot of skepticism in the republican party about the continuing ukraine aid. mollie, biden sometimes stumbled, ask you may not like the continue tent9 of what he said, but what do you make of him going on "60 minutes," talking to reporters, he's usually pretty inaccessible. >> he gave the interview to a fairly friendly interviewer, but air force one, you can see john kirby there, and at one point someone pointed out that that he was mouthing, please, stop this. because it the wasn't actually going very well. howard: why do you say that? >> he was not having the most effective communications. he was talking about what a hero he was of this whole conflict. it obviously listen been a super successful trip. howard: right. >> he's got a problem which i think we can all just acknowledge which is he mumbles, he's not particularly articulate, he's confusing, he's difficult to listen to. he needs to be more accessible, but the more he is, the more you're going to see those kinds of flubs, and he's heading into a presidential campaign where he can't do what he did in 2020, hiding out in the basement. howard: laura, seems to me that i've been saying for a couple years now that biden ought to talk to the press more. i think every president should do that. when i was watching him with the reporters, i thought he was unusually candid, kind of being the ultimate source of in this conversation, for example, with the egyptian leader. but whether you agree with that or not, would you agree that his aides seemed determined to protect him from the press? of course he's going to stumble, commit more gaffes, but i say that's a small price the pay for using the bully pulpit. >> well, and he's been using it quite effectively this week from the address to the candid conversations with the press on the plane. and we saw that he does have a different way of engaging the press than his predecessor who cut off any sort of press secretary engagement for more than a year. so given the way that the media tends to cover especially domestic politics, this is a strategy that he may continue to pursue. but, you know, you can criticize him for engaging him too much, criticize him for engaging too little. but the criticism always comes from the same source, those who already oppose him. howard: all right. i just have to add that whatever you think of donald trump and his presidency, he talked to reporters all the time, gave lots and lots of interviews and maybe sometimes it didn't work out, but that was part of the strategy. he was the dominant figure in the media, and biden except for this past 10 days or so often seems a low profile figure in media coverage. laura fink, mollie hemingway, thanks so much for joining us. up next, peter doocy weighs in on joe biden's risky visit to tel aviv. ♪ ♪ ♪ to jump into the fun and join in the celebration. to help get you ready, your aspen dental team is celebrating 25 years of affordable care with an epic anniversary savings event. right now, new patients without insurance get a free full exam and x-rays. plus, everyone can get 20% off their treatment plan. but hurry, because while the season won't last, the memories you make together will. aspen dental. book today. 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[laughter] and how many times do we go into the press briefing room or on these background calls where officials tell us they don't want to fete ahead of the president. there on air force one for the first time before cameras in basically three years in office, you had the president talking about meetings that only he he really was the authority to talk about. and it advanced a lot of the story. for example, we had not heard anywhere that there might be alternatives to a ground invasion. but president biden came out and said, well, our military is talking to the israeli military. whether that bears out, who knows? but there are certain things that that only he can talk about, and he is a good advocate for his policies. so we hope to see more from that. howard: yeah. i've been saying that for a long time. i think his top aides sometimes overprotect him prosecute press and that, you know, he's going to stumble and make gaffes, but he knows the substance. is there a side benefit, and i'm not suggesting this is the reason joe biden went to israel, but is there a side benefit to an 80-year-old president showing that he has the strength and the stamina to make this trip? >> it seems like the communications professionals around here think so because in the month before this conflict broke out, the number one thing that people, voters, potential voters including democrats were saying they had an issue with was the president's age. it's something like three-quarters or so in every single major poll people just worried that he's too old for a sec term. so this is -- second term. so this is an opportunity to reset. i think to your original question, yes, this is an ton for them, and they're taking advantage of the fact that a they can show the 80-year-old president globe trotting and trying to stop things from getting worse. howard: we don't have any u.s. troops in combat, but is joe biden now a war president having enmeshed the country in two brutal wars as you just referred to, and for people like you does that change narrative of his presidency? >> yes, it does. he is a wartime president now because even though there are no u.s. troops, when he talks about a ukraine and the money, he says or, well, we're not withdrawing. so he talks about it like the united states is there. and there are going to be fewer opportunities to talk to him about policies in this country if that's all that they're talking about. for as long as they are just singularly focused on foreign policy. and so it is just going, it is going to change the way that we cover him because we can only cover what's going on, and it seems like that's all that's to going to be going on. howard: peter doocy, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks howie. howard: next on "mediabuzz," jim jordan falls short in his bid to become speaker, fueling more press accounts about republican chaos. ♪ ♪ (light acoustic music plays) (eagle screeches) (energetic music plays) there he is! it's right there! ♪ oh, he's straight ahead. he's straight ahead. straight ahead. go go go. ♪ cover more ground in the kia sportage turbo-hybrid. kia. movement that inspires. ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ ( ♪ ) constant contact's advanced automation lets you send the right message at the right time, every time. ( ♪ ) constant contact. helping the small stand tall. howard: jim jordan told reporters he had the momentum to become house speaker after winning a secret ballot, but the conservative congressman kept losing support in three rounds of voting on the floor if with 25 republican holdouts ultimately opposing him. >> with i've never seen somebody commit political suicide, a group of people, like this. and after two weeks of therapy, people going home on their own and coming back, they're still doing the same thing. >> the republican party spent the entire day today trying to install a chief coup plotter as speaker of the house and second in line to the presidency. howard: and late friday house republicans dropped jordan as their nominee. joining us now, susan ferrechio, chief political reporter for the washington times, and here with me, kevin corke. susan, most of the media, clearly, are not in jim jordan's corner. did that influence the outcome along with the other reasons that he couldn't stop 25 house republican colleagues from opposing him? >> well, he's always been kind of painted as, you know, a hard-line conservative, somebody on the fringes, and that was certainly part of this. but don't forget, kevin mccarthy and majority leader steve scalise also couldn't keep together the conference. now we've got another round of 10 that's coming up, maybe half a dozen people. i'm not sure any of them have enough votes to become speak speaker it's not just about the personalities here of jim jordan or the junior highish behavior that people see in the house right now. a lot of this has to do with the media's not really covering this at all, howie, the a9 -- the deep philosophical divide over federal spending which is driving up interest rates, causing inflation, really hurting americans. there are a group of people in congress who just want to hold the line here and put someone in place who's going to tackle fiscal spending, a really difficult task. it's kind of getting overshadowed by personalities. howard: yeah. you've got to work with the democrats if you're going to get anything done on spending. kevin, by the way, donald trump was pushing jim jordan, and that doesn't work out. there were reports that jordan allies used pressure tactics against the holdouts and that backfired. for example, "politico" cited anonymous texts do congressman don bacon's wife saying he'll never hold office again. several members got death threats. i don't blame that on jordan, but it got ugly. >> he had momentum, howie, until he didn't. strong arm tactics really do happen on capitol hill, i think they may have overplayed their hand here because as i, to your bemuse ifment, i mentioned last week i really feel like they want this drama and here's why: they absolutely don't want to rush this straight through. i think susan hit on it, they want to figure out a way to tow the line with the economics that are happening right now on the hill. and unless and until they get the right person in the job, they are willing to sacrifice this. howard: you know, republicans, susan, also turned down what i call plan z which is to empower interim speaker patrick mchenry for a couple of months. that looked like it was going to pass for about an hour or two, and then it got shot down. [laughter] and george is can can't try -- jordan can't try again. there's no leader, no end in sight, and why shouldn't half the house put their names forward, because they probably have as good a shot as anybody else. >> right. i mean, as kevin mccarthy said on friday, lee not really sure where things are going to go in the house right now. you've got people threatening to work with democrats and, believe me, that is a real possibility. it only takes a handful of republicans to lek some kind of compromise speaker with a spending package to accompany it. you know, there are various possibilities, elevating the temporary appointed speaker, i still think that could be on the table at some point. i don't rule out, you know, mccar the or one of the other people coming back up and being a candidate again and coming right back around because they weren't able to get anywhere. i think the real question is, howe by -- howie, how long can this go on for? they're clearly dragging this out. i don't see a winner coming up immediately. the question is, how long are they willing to keep the house dark. howard: i love comeback stories. that would really be something. >> it would be. [laughter] howard: there have been a number of media reports, kevin, saying how could jim jordan even get close to the speakership, he's so conservative? he was active in trying to overturn the 2020 election. and he got asked about that during this process this past week by a reporter. >> reporter: do you believe the 200 election was stolen? >> i think there were all kinds of problems, and and i've been clear about that. howard: so some republican members, kevin, think that it would be controversial. a lot of members are queasy even about saying joe biden -- also jim jordan's lead eking the biden impeachment inquiry, ask he's very conservative. >> he is, and i think that does hurt him. i think, honestly, part of the coverage problem here is -- and i think you alluded to the it earlier -- i think people don't really understand the rift within the party very well. the rift is not just an economic rift are. i really think there is a larger faction of anti-maga republicans out there in the house of representatives than people want to acknowledge. and i think that's buffetted by the fact that this secret ballot went the way it went. howard: yeah. secret ballots tend to produce a different outcome than when you have to have your name attached. >> that's right. howard: i'll just say briefly among the members putting themselves forward, tom emmer, who already we're seeing stories he's opposed by donald trump because of the 2020 election, he thought it was fineful byron donalds, who would be the first african-american speaker. but the problem is this 217. think of them, mccarthy, scalise, now jordan can only aboard to lose 3 republican votes, and that was the undoing of kevin mccarthy and why we remain in this mess at a time when the u.s. is involved in two wars now. ahead, excuse me, after the break, the pa media debate a partial gag order for donald trump and his former lawyer, sidney powell, pleading guilty. ♪ ♪ get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a 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ever heard of has been able to attack members of the court, officers of the court the way donald trump is. howard: kevin, some pundits say the gag order in new york was carefully limited to prevent trump from attacking court staff the, witnesses and so forth. while others say it's an unfair infringement on his ability to campaign. and then he got hit with a $5,000 fine because his campaign web site didn't take down old posts attacking judge's law clerk. what's your take on this? >> i think a couple ways to view this, howie. on the one hand, if you are donald trump, you feel like you're violating my first amendment, i am not attacking the court, but i have a right to speak my mind. on the other hand, i think one of the bigger issues here is this could have been litigated months ago, couple years ago even. the fact that it's been back-end loaded cannot be overlooked, is and there is an argument dog made that, yeah, they're doing this in effect to sort of silence or sideline him during the campaign. howard: yeah. he is by far the leading candidate as the republican nominee. susan, the counterargument is an ordinary defendant who wasn't a former president would have perhaps been punished much more severely already for using words like thugs and deranged and racist. >> on the other hand, the president has made this case, and i think a lot of his voters believe it, i know because i've talked to them, that he wouldn't be facing any of these charges at all if he wasn't running for president, that this, that the narrative that he successfully delivers is that he's being attacked politically. first of all, this is about silencing him as a political candidate, he makes that argument, and and second, he's being charged in 4 separate cases, 91 criminal counts, because they want to keep him out of the white house. he laid that out in the sound you just played. it is absolutely true that letitia james campaigned on taking out donald trump, and now there's a gag order that could put him in jail is. all of this stuff is playing into the president's narrative that he's being stalked, his agenda is being stalked and the people who support him are being stalked through these judges and criminal caseses. and i think, you know, just being out on the campaign trail and talking to voters, none of them feel he is, he's a criminal. and instead, they feel like he's being persecuted politically. howard: yeah. he has has forcefully and aggressively made that case. and i, you know, i don't think he's going to jail. i think the judge was trying to send a message. you know, the idea that the old post on the web site, $5,000 the fine, fortunately for trump that's spare change. at the same time, former trump lawyer sidney powell, one of trump's co-defendants in the georgia case separate from the new york civil suit that we were talking about, pleaded guilty and will serve no jail time and requires her to testify truthfully. and also another codent, kenneth cheseboro pleading guilty as well. they both went for plea bargain. let me play, remind people what sidney powell was doing in 2020. let's roll it. >> what we are really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through venezuela, cuba and likely china and the interference with our elections here in the united states. howard: kevin, kind of hard for the press to interpret both of these plea bargains as anything other than bad news for trump. >> it's not going to be good news for him not just now, howie, but moving down the line. i think the georgia case, among them all, is the most fraught with peril for the former president because the law is fairly specific. and i think in the case of sidney powell, i think she had to make this deal because she was the one who was out there, out front making lots of statements that later either turned out to not be true or weren't able to be substantiated. unfortunately for the trump team, having that out there is something that could bite him ultimately down the line. howard: yeah. but the question, of course, susan with cheseboro and sidney powell who said she was going to bring the kraken and anyone else who takes a plea bargain, that's one of the things that happens when you have multiple defendants, is what firsthand knowledge do they have of what donald trump said or did on this question of trying to overturn the election. >> well, they were in the room with him. they were at the white house meeting with him, we know that. they talked to him on the phone. they could say any number of things. the president's main defense will be that he believes there was election fraud. he believed there was something nefarious happening in the election that required him to try to overturn it or stop it or get to the bottom of it. i mean, that's his overall argument which is why people have questioned the strength the of this racketeering charge and whether it'll ultimately hold up. yes, it's bad news when 17 co-conspirators start to, some of them start to accept guilty pleas because you know they're going after trump and probably rudy giuliani in this instance the just trying to get their top target, the president. but he had made the case can over and over and he the still makes it that he thinks that he won the election. howard: right. >> you know, he has made that case consistently. howard: he's even, if i can interrupt, he's even brought it up with regard to the war in the middle east saying this wouldn't have happened if there hadn't been a rigged election. i've got to let you two guys go. i do think there are many different cases, but as you say, certainly, many republican voters believe that he's being untearly persecuted. the still to come, an israeli television reporter on the heartbreaking assignment of covering this brutal war. ♪ glass damage, trust safelite. my customer really relies on his car's advanced safety system. 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