Still raging today after gaza mounted one of the worst assaults in 50 years. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu warning therell be a long war beyond israels retaliatory strikes. Lets go to fox correspondent trey yingst on the ground in Southern Israel and, tragically, youve seen some gruesome scenes in this hamas surprise attack. Reporter yeah, howie, im going to have my Cameraman Pan here, were just getting some Rocket Fire Camming off the gaza strip coming off the gaza strip as we talk. The scenes we have seen, really just brutality against the israeli people. It is nonstop fire from from gaza. Yesterday a massacre committed against the israeli population, the latest numbers that we have more than 600 israeli civilians and soldiers. You can hear those explosions in the distance, interceptions by israels iron dome. We do know that as this rocket fire from gaza continues, we expect fire to continue from lebanon, and it has created a difficult situation for Israeli Forces as they face a multifront conflict. This morning rockets and mortars were fired by the Lebanese Militant Group hezbollah, opening up this conflict to a broad Orer Rebellingal broader regional conflict. The Israeli Military says they do Everything Possible to get their civilians back, but we do know more than 100 israeli civilians and soldiers are currently taken Prisoner Of War inside the gaza strip, taken yesterday by palestinian militants. Howard trey, thanks very much. Stay safe. More on israel later in the program. Kevin mccarthy did what was right for the country, avoiding a Government Shutdown, and his reward was being booted from the speakers chair. Media absolutely loving this story not just because its dramatic and unprecedented, this is a first in american history, but because it are recontinues to show the republicans are incapable of governing. Hes out of a job. You dont have is to listen to the Mainstream Media on this. Many republicans who care about the institution are really angry about what matt gaetz and his allies did. They dont get to say theyre conservative because theyre angry and theyre chaotic. They are not conservatives, and they do not have the right to have the title. I dont regreat standing up or regret standing up and choosing government over grievance. It is my responsibility, it is my job. Finish. Howard now, mccarthy made so many concessions no these house rebels, especially allowing any Single Member to oust them him, that he was almost lake a hostage, and he ticked off the democrats to the point they mounted a partyline vote against him. But the larger question that journalists should be exploring is what does this coup do to the institution of the house . We badly need two thriving parties this is this country even if thats less exciting to cover than the current chaos. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. Howard emotions, needless to say, are running high among the commentators. Im furious. First of all, were without a speaker. This is historic. Something like this hasnt happened in well over a hundred years. And now what weve got is total chaos. The House Republican congress, you have no one to blame but yourselves. You dug the hole. The problem is you dragged the whole country down with you. These parties, we realize, are not mirror images. One wants the win and the other count. They shot themselves in the foot, and by9 foot, i mean head. This is about the far right, but we need a party thats consistently adult in this country. Of its not the Republican Party right now. Howard joining us now to analyze the coverage, in utah, jason chaffetz, former republican congressman and fox news contributor. And in san diego, laura fink, ceo of rebel communications. Jason, as somebody who served on the hill, how much of this, how much has the press is the press enamored of this republican meltdown story, and is it fuel by some gop lawmakers ripping the conservative rebelsesome. Yell rebels . Well, yeah. Theres nothing like interparty fights to get the national medias attention, especially when its on republican on republican rages. Look, i am shipping to the argument as that matt gaetz and the others made, but i thought the process and what they did was fundamentally wrong. I think Kevin Mccarthy made a fundamental mistake when he agreed and acquiesced to the asked that only one person could bring the motion to vacate. I thought that was wrong, and they paid the price for that. I think that number should be higher, like two dozen or so and be able to vacate the chair. And even though some of the arguments like regular order and bringing those bills to the floor one at a time should make sense to both sides of the party, the mess that it creates, the chaos, it just looked like, you know, a ship of fools. Howard chaos is not an overstatement. Laura, a lot of people have been saying why didnt some of the moderate democrats bail out Kevin Mccarthy eby voting present even by voting president . There were a lot of trust issues, and the leadership basically ordered every one of them to vote against mccarthy. We also heard that, in fact, no deal was made and no communication was had between mccarthy and the democrats. So he really wasnt looking to go that route to safe his speakership. Save his speakership. But the reason the media is so enticed by this is because of the level of assistance parent city and access that republicans are give them to the drama. We saw pelosi with a similar 5vote majority, and it certainly wasnt dramafree. But the democratic chose to keep it in the family, and the republicans are going full public with their anger. I think also the agreement on the narrative, you never or very rarely hear fox news hosts agreeing with New York Times editors when they talk about chaos or when greg gutfeld and paul krugman from the New York Times talk about one says shooting themselves in the head, the other one says decapitated. This level of agreement on narrative the is unprecedented as well and why you see the Media Jumping on it. Howard rare amount of consensus here. Jason, mccarthy made missteps, but if you look back to paul ryan, john boehner, wouldnt you conclude the job is Mission Impossible especially if theres a faction that just doesnt want to compromise at all . Oh, theres no doubt in my mind that we should redefine the role of speaker and what we expect that person to do and not do. We got rid of earmarks, i think thats the good thing, but it also got away from the ability of the leadership to entice and bring people to the table to actually vote for bills. I think the argument though going back to regular order and allowing everybody to offer amendments, thats the right thing. And and lets not take this argument too far, because the idea that continuing resolutions and omnibuses are the right way to go, thats the way washington normally works and so we need to continue to do more of that, thats a are hollow argument. Theres a reason why we are 33 trillion in debt, and its because of that garbage and because we have leadership who thinks they have, they and they alone get to craft and bills and pass them. Howard yeah. I think both parties bear responsibility for the staggering debt figures. But, laura, isnt the larger problem that the parties have lost their clout, and the way to start them these days is through social media whether its matt gaetz, mtg or aoc on the democratic side, and so they cant be reined in because their power comes from having a great Instagram Field E . Thats certainly true that the power is shifting, but i think theres a very, a huge difference between whats happening on the republican side and on the democratic side. And you see that in play today, and you see it in play this week because we see the fracas really damaging the internal Electoral Prospects of the Republican Party. Kevin mccarthy was a fund raising machine, and he had a plan to retain the house and also possibly to help with message if on the senate. We see here this Crisis Playing in to joe bidens messaging about extreme republicans unable to govern. And so this was a huge mistake that will have lasting consequences as we proceed, especially if they cant decide on a consensus speaker. Howard jason, let me play for you, to be fair to matt gaetz, an exchange he had with laura ingraham. So lets say republicans lose the house. Will you feel any, any regret for having done what you did today . Absolutely not. I believe that we were destined to lose the house if we didnt do what we did today because with we didnt give anyone something to believe this in. Howard jason, theres a lot of talk, a lot of anger at matt gaetz, even talk of expelling him because his critics feel hes pursuing a personal grudge against Kevin Mccarthy and had no plans for what would happen if mccarthy was toppled. I think the arguments he gave on the floor of the house were actually pretty good arguments. But maines some sort of moral minus some sort of Moral Inhave Cession by the speaker, i think americas left wondering, whey did you just do that now . What in the world is happening . You know, changing the Team Midstream in the middle of a congress is just, its not only unprecedented, i think a lot of people are wondering why they did that. But i think that the argument that if we just keep being as republicans Democrat Light and we just kind of go along to get along and just keep going on with what joe bidens doing with energy and the border and inflation and all those things, then, you know, what good are the republicans if theyre not actually going to change the trajectory of where were going in this nation . Howard right. They should stand for something. But when you only control onethird of the government, its hard to govern without come proprohissing. Laura, whoever the next speaker is jim jordan and Steve Scalise are running wont they run into the same brutal math that mccarthy did . They absolutely with will. And they will run into the same kicking the can down the road with the Government Shutdown in 45 days. To fix that problem ask and more to come, you have to get spending bills through or, you know, voters will hold you accountable in a year. And i think that the leadership and the insiders in the Republican Party, im not sure if Congressman Chaffetz would agree with me, but i do think that the reason they are lacking to rein this in and chien this up as soon as possible is because they know the damage that is done. Voters want to see a functioning government, not chaos with no return. Howard you know, or congressman, politico is reporting today that there is some chatter among House Republicans to try to bring mccarthy back, to retore him to the speakership in part because the house is paralyzed, cant act until theres a new speaker. And now with the war in israel started by hamas, cant approve any aid or do anything else with regard to the situation in the middle east. Yeah. To try to predict what that body is going to do, i mean, look, i used to be part of that body. To herd those cats and try to get them all in the same direction, look, again, i said it at the time and ill say it again, if they dont change the threshold for the motion to vacate, we will go through this on i mean, how often are we going to continue to do this . Yes, they need to rally behind a leader e. And, by the way, youve got some really good with people between Steve Scalise and jim jordan. But jim jordan was to john boehner the way matt gaetz was to Kevin Mccarthy. So the the idea that jim jordan could ascend to the speakership, i mean, a great conservative that would be in that position, i think do fabulous, but a few years ago the idea that he would be speaker, unbelievable. Nobody would have thought that would happen. Howard yes. Things move quickly in politics, and sometimes things unimaginable become imaginable, though its going to be tough for either one of these guys to get to 218. Stick around, well have you back later. 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Youre not gonna believe this thing is possible but it is. Howard the theres been some Media Chatter9 that the next House Speaker could be donald trump . Joining us now, bob cusack, editor this chief of the hill. Did you ever take that seriousliesome. Not really. And i dont think he can get the votes. Remember, you have 18 House Republicans representing districts that biden won, so they dont want that. Howard people may wonder, how could it be donald trump, but you dont have to be a member of the house to be speaker. One of those oddities of the constitution. Thats right. Howard trump has endorsed jim jordan whose fiery style makes great copy for journalistism journalism, but jordan would need more support from moderates. No, absolutely right. When jordan last ran for the top position among house are republicans howard when was that . Five years ago. That was for minority leader,ring or but this is a different party. I thinkable in normal times Steve Scalise is the favorite, and i still think he is, but i dont think hes the clear favorite like we would have thought maybe years ago. Howard right. But, of course, jordan, im sure some republicans love the fact that hes leading these Oversight Hearings and the impeachment inquiry, but maybe some republicans dont. They dont, absolutely right. And i think there could be a choice c or d. This is going to be a long week. Howard oh. Youre going to complicate my layoff with more candidates . [laughter] so its hard to cover this race because the deal makings all behind closed doors. Im sure some promises are being offered or traded, and if there are no polls to obsess over. Thats right. So this is basically a run for class president. President ial endorsements, especially from trump, mean a lot in a republican primary, but as Kevin Mccarthy said in this type of race, not so much. Howard yeah. Kevin mccarthy never asked donald trump to try to save him despite the fact that he had spent a lot of time cultivating the former president , going to maralago they had a complicated relationship. [laughter] howard fair enough. Unless theres a quick decision, doesnt the chaos in the house increase the chances of a Government Shutdown . Remember, the Stopgap Spending that avoided the had thedown shutdown runs out in about, i dont know, five weeks in. Thats right. Youre going to have another bipartisan compromise, and the speaker is going to have to deal with the senate, run by democrats and, listen, there could be another ouster of the speaker unless they change that one member rule. Howard so you think a new person could be elected speaker and, nevertheless, republicans having been byrne burned, i think, by the ouster of Kevin Mccarthy, that person could be toppled if they cant get a deal . I mean, listen, could it be tried . Yes. But at the same time, you cant go back to that well too often. Howard yeah. I do think the chances of a Government Shutdown are very high. Howard yeah. Who would want this job after all of this . Moving right along, Hillary Clinton has been making the rounds lately, and she actually said this about Donald Trumps followers at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members. Howard this, of course, is the president ial candidate from 2016 who talked about the bassett of deplorables. Basket of deplorables. What did you make of that comment . Very strange. A lot of democrats said, well, the fever will break. The fever has not broken. [laughter] he is still the party leader. But what does that mean in formally deprogram. Its kind of an odd statement. Howard yeah. And you could kind of tell from her tone it wasnt a joke. And when you Start Talking about cult members, isnt she, in fact, sticking it to many millions of americans when, for whatever combination of reasons, like donald trump . Yeah. Well, listen, it was painful for her to lose to donald trump especially when he thought he was going to win. And by many accounts donald