Americans are devastated by Violent Crime and the railing against the system that puts thugs back out on the streets. Citizens are begging for help. Its breaking my heart. Lifetime resident, never seen nothing like whats going on now. It hurts. It hurts. And, you know, we just praying and praying, hoping god can intervene. Laura the families of victims across the country are demanding action before others get hurt. Were going to talk to one of the mothers whose sons was murdered and his killer may be getting a plea deal. Plus, who the Biden Administration is blaming for commanders Secret Service sweet tooth. It will make you all say what the failla. Jimmy failla will be here later in the show. First, the big news, Kevin Mccarthy is out as Speaker Of The House. Washington must change. We have to break the cycle. Kevin mccarthy is the Speaker Of The House of representatives and he has failed to take a stand where it matters. So, if he wont, i will. The office of Speaker Of The House of the United States house of representatives is hereby declared vacant. [gavel] there is 2022 republicans up there. There is 190 of them not moving away from Kevin Mccarthy. They are just not. He will continue to being speaker there would be chaos that would continue because he has not been honest with either party. Kevin mccarthy is a feature of the swamp. He has risen to power by collecting special interest money and redistributing that money in exchange for favors. We are breaking the fever now and we should elect a speaker who is better. Laura now, at this moment, the house g. O. P. Conference is meeting to decide who can be the next Speaker Of The House. After the shocking ouster of mccarthy. Now, you remember it took five days, 15 rounds of voting to get him confirmed back in january. But, just hours now to kick him out. It was an historic move orchestrated by florida congressman matt gaetz. Up until just before the show, gaetz was supposed to be sitting right here telling me what was going to come next in the big fight. And giving you behind the scenes details of the ouster. But he is in that all Hands On Deck meeting and cant get out. He did send us this note to share with you. Im sorry i cant join you dont. Im meeting with the House Republican conference to chart our future. Its been a an historic day and our work is not done. Now, i think we all do understand the underlying point here about governing by these continuing resolutions. We need a plan to protect the border. I mean, that we need to seriously consider the billions in aid that were just rubber stamping, sending out to ukraine. But i have to say tonight, its hard to see how what happened today gets republicans closer to achieving any of those goals. So the legitimate concerns may have, you know, some sticking power, but, the problem here, i think, is two fold. Number one, there is no plan that follows. Thats what supposedly they are working on tonight, the folks suggested to take up the gavel have all said that they support mccarthy. So whats next . Number two, after contending that mccarthy was wrong to use democrat votes to assist in passing a shortterm spending package, gaetz and the seven other g. O. P. Members use 208 democrats to oust mccarthy. Okay what they do it. For all the talk about principles being at stake, i mean, congresswoman nancy mace proved to oust mccarthy as well because in her view, he didnt move fast enough on womens issues. Another ken buck, another congressman isnt just, you know, opponent of impeachment inquiries, with mccarthy, he just moved forward on this idea of liz cheney being a friend of his. I mean, liz cheney is a friend of ken buck . Ken buck is supporting this gaetz. Speaking of liz cheney she reportedly called dan goldman after one of his tv hits to tell him that he and the democrats should take mccarthy out. Joining me now victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoar institution. Charlie hurt Opinion Editor at the Washington Times fox news contributor. Chearlg, to you, i think to people watching at home they dont understand the ins and outs of this but they are hard pressed to understand how this gets republicans republicans to the type of majority they need next year to effectuate change. I think it was completely incoherent. Republicans only control by a very thin margin one half of 1 3 of government. That one half of one third has been pretty successful in marshaling what resources they have to slow down this Progressive Revolution. Then right in the middle of this when we are looking at impeachment. All these serious issues, just to get rid of the speaker without any plan condition continue again genesee to replace him feeds into the narrative that the republicans cant govern. While you do that, i dont know. More importantly gates argument too friendly with democrats. He used democrats to oust mccarthy. So hypocritical and contradictory and counter productive at a time when the republicans have no margin of error and they need to unite in every aspect of that word. Here they are committing suicide. It doesnt make any sense. Laura charlie, this is at a time where republicans have an historic advantage on which party is better at handling the economy. I mean, going back to 191. They had the biggest lead on the most important issue facing americans and now the attention is drawn to capitol hill and the fact that the republicans are so incapable of governing they lost a speaker in what, you know, hasnt really happened before in this way. Your reaction tonight . And the most devastating question for matt gaetz today, just as it was eight months ago is, okay, whats the alternative . And he doesnt seem to be able to give you an alternative, and the alternative he offers have people that dont want to have anything to do with it. I do think that, you know, you can you know, we have known we were going to have a calamity since the day Speaker Mccarthy got elected speaker after 15 rounds. We knew it was going to eventually come to this. It was going to come to a Government Shutdown. The criticism, i would have of Kevin Mccarthy is, that he hasnt gone on ahead from the beginning and laid the ground work make this catastrophe we are seeing today about something. Say a Government Shutdown because democrats refuse to enforce the border or a Government Shutdown because democrats refused to stop inflationary spending. All of which American People would understand. So its kind of a Marketing Thing that i would criticize Kevin Mccarthy for. But, honestly, when you look at what happened today, the same criticism you could level against matt gaetz because nobody knows what this is about. I think that a lot of underlying issues are important. And i agree with matt gaetz about it. But you cant beat something with nothing. And right now, matt gaetz has nothing. Laura reminds me of the Green Eggs And Ham speech that ted cruz gave to try to get rid of obamacare. It was kind of a fun speech. It was fun filibuster but it didnt get to the point that they wanted. Didnt achieve the goal. Victor and charlie stay with us. We have a fox news alert about what just happened inside the republican conference meeting. Joining me now Fox Chad Pergram live from capitol hill. Chad, what you are hearing tonight. We just confirmed that Kevin Mccarthy indicated to colleagues that he will not run again for Speaker Of The House. Thats his message tonight. He is going to talk publicly here at the capitol around 7 30 eastern time tonight. And the reason here, it seems that Kevin Mccarthy was just never going to be able to get the votes. I talked to him, interviewed him twice in the halls on two different occasions today. And he kept reiterating to me the same thing that he said over and over again. I never give up. Never give up. And i asked him at one point, right before he went in for the vote to that was the first procedural vote, to kind of tee up this vote to oust him as speaker, i said if you lose tonight, will you run again . And he was completely silent. He kind of shook his head and walked off. That was the end of the interview. This was live on fox earlier today. And i think that was rather telling. You know, he forecast this, even though he said he would be the Speaker Of The House still tonight, he said that if he lost five votes on his side of the aisle, you hear me say it all the time. Its always about the math, that he would not be speaker. He said that this morning. He will talk at 7 30. Its unclear at this point if his name might be placed in nomination. Again, you dont have to be a member to be speaker. Now, we dont know if he is going to resign from his seat, necessarily. We want to be very careful about this. Keep in mind that nancy pelosi is still a member of congress. And she stepped down from her speakership when democrats lost the majority last fall. So, you can continue to serve in the body as a member. We dont know what Kevin Mccarthys plans are. He wont be Speaker Of The House. We dont know if there will be an effort to draft him. It is hard to see with the physics of the house how he gets to the magic number how he has the votes to continue or be reelected as Speaker Of The House. This is such an historic day here at the capitol. The fact that we have never had a speaker ousted. Compared a lot to what happens in europe in parliamentary systems where you have a No Confidence Vote for a Prime Minister or Something Like that. We have never had this in the middle of a congress except when speakers have either passed away which happened back in the 1930s or speaker resigned it happened twice in the past 30 years. You obviously had jim wright who was the Speaker Of The House in the late 1980s and he resigned and also john boehner stepped down both for very Different Reasons there Kevin Mccarthy will speak tonight. Laura, its going to be very hard to see just how long it takes the house, and i will say the house, not republicans, but, perhaps, a coalition of democrats and republicans or whatever this Mixture Looks like to get together to elect a speaker. Here laura chad, apparently they just said Patrick Mchenry, Congressman Mchenry said they anticipate the meeting to conduct the vote will take place on tuesday of next week. They are setting the premeetings and then the ultimate vote on tuesday. So, they dont have a lot of time here. Yeah. They dont. And, also, it means that we go without a speaker. He is acting as the speaker pro tem. This is a continuity of government function that was put in place after 9 11 that you have somebody who kind of is administratively the speaker pro tem. They are not actually the speaker and thats what Patrick Mchenry is. Its pretty clear to me that they were not going to revote tonight. The house cant do anything until it elects a speaker. You cant put something on the floor, a bill. Say to fund the government or honor a girl scout troop. Committees are still in order. And, you know, jim jordan and others indicate oh, we are still going to forge ahead with our impeachment inquiry. But at some point might have you people even on the republican side of the aisle say youre focused on impeachment and we cant even elect a speaker and barely keep the government open . What are you doing . Some moderates might blame them for that so, because they are not getting direction from the speaker. Keep in mind that the speaker is the first person mentioned in the constitution. They are the constitutional officer of this branch of government. And the house Cannot Function at least on the floor without a speaker. And this gets into National Security issues. There is a reason why. Laura third in line to the presidency. Patrick mchenry i should note if he is the speaker pro tem he is the president and Vice President it would not go to him further down the line because we dont have speaker. This is why there are concern about National Security issues. Laura this just doesnt look good all the way around. Chad, great to see you. Thank you so much for the update. Thank you. Laura remember, former Speaker Mccarthy is going to speak at 7 30 tonight. Go back to our panel victor davis hanson. Charlie hurt. Victor, you just heard per grams update there. So right now we have things flying around social media where congressman troy nehls, district 22 from texas. Is he proposing that donald trump become Speaker Of The House. I dont know how serious that might be. But, thats where he is coming from. So, i guess anything is possible. What is your sense here . I think right now they dont need more chaos. They just need a return to their majority. What we are witnessing is a slow motion surrender of their majority advantages. So all that work in the midterms. All that razor thin effort to get a majority to stop this progressive agenda, they just surrendered it from what we can hear they are going to keep surrendering it and be consulted by lynne cheney and the democrats. If theyre really worried about physical sobriety, in 2001, they came into office with a republican president and a Republican Senate and a Republican House and they did not balance a budget. They ran up one of the biggest deficits in history. They did the same thing in 2017. They had a senate, they had a house, they had a president , and they ran up big deficits. So, what they need to do is agree this time to get a majority in the senate and the house and the white house and break with their tradition and actually show some fiscal responsibility rather than all these antics by, you know, giving up what little power they have. Laura well, charlie, i think the main argument that republicans have in november of next year is we know how to run things. Biden is the agent of chaos and all the people pulling his strings. Look at the chaos on the border. Look at the chaos on the economy. Real median wages are going down. Crime is going up. So they are the chaos party. Does this detract from that or is this just a temporary blip, perhaps, given that they are pushing Steve Scalise who is kind of really people like him in general. I think people have a lot of respect for Steve Scalise. They are pushing him to take over as speaker. Honestly, laura, i think this will end up being sort of an irrelevant thing in The Big Picture when voters go to the polls next year. I dont think we get obviously for important reasons, we follow this stuff very closely. We but its a little bit like Government Shutdowns. When you go back through the history of Government Shutdowns, every one of which republicans get blamed for and you look at the election after the Government Shutdown, in which republicans get blamed, you find that republicans dont do that badly or in many cases in most cases actually pick up seats after they have been blamed for a Government Shutdown. Voters dont care about this stuff that much. They are far more concerned about the invasion at the border. They are far more concerned about gas prices and inflation and all of the things that make their lives personally more miserable. And this is kind of a side show. But i do agree with you that it is, you know, bringing sanity to washington. If thats your calling card, and that has to be republicans calling card, this sort of undermines all that. But i dont think that it ends up doing lasting damage if republicans wind up rallying around somebody who is able to bring regular order and i have to say that this issue and you and i have talked about this before. This issue of single issue legislation, and regular order for Appropriations Bills, the most important thing that this that a congress can get back to doing. Laura they should campaign on that, victor, back to the point that you and i made on my podcast yesterday, this idea that you cant act like you have a super majority when you have the thinnest of thin majorities. So, i mean, its unfortunate. Wish you had a bigger majority but you dont. You have senators who are frankly on the republican side working against a lot of the core views of the Republican Base. So you not only dont have a big majority in the house. You have senators who are working against you. So, thats what any new speaker is facing victor. That means they do have to compromise sometimes as much as people dont like to compromise. Thats just the way of the world. This idea that you have to be perfect ideologically to do good