>> julie: cavalcante was convicted of first degree murder august 16th for the killing of his former girlfriend in pennsylvania and wanted for another murder in brazil. now officials are warning residents to be alert and careful. >> we are requesting that residents in the area of this township remain inside, lock your doors, lock your cars. he is still considered an extremely dangerous individual. >> we will continue just uncovering every rock until we find him. the very last thing we want to see besides someone getting hurt is him to get into somebody's house. getting a set of car keys and it is off to the races. >> julie: lauren green with the latest. >> the massive manhunt for cavalcante has put a pennsylvania community on edge as multiple law enforcement agencies are combing through the backyards and by ways, the most promising piece of evidence is that home surveillance video. the five foot tall, 120 pound cavalcante can be seen just before 2:00 a.m. saturday. he is carrying a backpack. it is not far from the chester county prison where he escaped on thursday. authorities believe he is still within a couple of miles of that area. >> we believe we're getting closer to locating this suspect at this time. we're narrowing the scope of our search. we believe that he may be in a residential location that is comprised with hundreds of homes in a deeply wooded area. >> he is a native of brazil. he was convicted of a 2021 violent death of his ex-girlfriend. she was stabbed 38 times in front of her two children. it was to prevent her from telling authorities he was wanted in brazil for a 2017 murder. cavalcante was set to be transferred to a state prison in a few weeks to serve a life sentence. people in the area around the township are being urged to stay alert. lock their home and car doors. >> we want it to be over. it has been a really scary couple of days here in the community. >> i don't understand he has been able to elude the police this long and be in the same area. >> anyone who sees the man should not approach him but instead call 911. pennsylvania law enforcement authorities say they will give an update on the search in a couple of hours. >> julie: thank you. >> actively not shown any compassion or moral value to anything. emotionally, physically he hasn't shown up. no help for us economically or with our residents. >> i still don't feel comfortable and don't want to take my kids into something that obviously biden doesn't even want to show up. there is some reason as to why he is not coming. >> residents of east palestine, ohio waiting on a visit from president biden. 200 days since a trail derailment hit the town. j.d. vance is calling out the president's unkept promise. >> joe biden promised he would visit east palestine. he has refused to visit. their own government and president who promised to show up didn't show up. >> rich: he blamed his busy schedule. an analysis shows the president has been out of office for more than 380 days since taking office. 40% of the time. this labor day weekend the president is at his delaware beach house. peter doocy with the politics of presidential vacationing live at the white house. peter. >> president biden has responded to some disaster areas, florida over the weekend, maui eventually but no east palestine and now we know why. he has been busy. >> president biden: i haven't had the occasion to go to east palestine. there is a lot going on here and i haven't been able to break. i was thinking i would go this week but then was reminded i have to go around the world, i'm going from washington to india to vietnam to -- so it will be a while. >> president biden insisted this weekend when he goes to his beach house he is not on vacation. but during a wilmington security upgrade. he didn't say why he had to go there instead of staying at the white house. old age won't slow down his re-election bid. a biographer said he wouldn't be surprised if biden is not the nominee next year. >> president biden: someone said that biden is getting old, man, i tell you what. well guess what? guess what? the only thing that comes with age is a little bit of wisdom. [cheers and applause] i've been doing this longer than anybody and guess what? i will continue to do it with your help. >> for the talking head class that insists president biden will not be there on the ballot next year, president biden says he will. rich. >> rich: there we have it. peter doocy live at the white house. peter, thank you. >> julie: kat cammack, republican congresswoman from florida member of energy and commerce committee and subcommittee on the weaponization of government is here with me now. a lot going on in florida. first let's talk about the fact that when the president in fact did indeed finally meet with people there in florida, he went on saturday. he didn't interestingly enough meet with the governor, which you would think would be something he would have fit into his agenda, no? >> we're so fresh right after the storm and these are small, rural communities in my district that have been hit incredibly hard. people have lost their homes and their livelihoods. so for the resources that it takes to recover from a storm like this and attend to a presidential detail, it is incredible. i know the governor was out with some of the communities that were hit hardest. we have all been boots on the ground. it's a tough time for our area and behind me there is a disaster zone left in the wake of hurricane idalia. i'm less concerned about what biden wants to do to try to make up for his lack of action in east palestine and maui and other districts but more concerned getting our district back on their feet. >> julie: how are fema funds kicking in? that's huge importance for people who return to nothing. their homes are rubble and now they have to rebuild from the ground up. >> you know, it's really hard right now, julie. we have seen entire homes disappear and just have clean foundations as though they had just been poured. entire livelihoods including ago. there is agricultural operations. they have sustained huge losses. so in terms of the federal funding, it is slow coming in. the administrator said they're out of money. that's why the state, florida, has really stepped up and they are doing as much as they can to help with the debris removal. getting people back on their feet and getting fuel in their vehicles and helping to kick start this process. we're a long ways out. hopefully we get a clean supplemental program that will fund the disasters for hurricane ian, maui and idalia without any supplemental riders without ukraine funding. the president said he will do that and it's unacceptable >> julie: months after the trail derailment in ohio the president didn't visit. two weeks to visit maui. he did finally visit florida. did it boost morale whatsoever there? when people are devastated they look to leadership. when leadership doesn't seem to care it must be heartbreaking. >> you have to remember this is a guy who spent 40% of his time in the white house on vacation. we don't have a commander-in-chief. we have a commander of the cabana. it is absurd that he thinks he can come down here and it will boost morale. people were upset because they knew and they saw so many of these rural communities and the law enforcement that had to be diverted to do his security detail rather than continue to help people clear the roads to make sure there were all of these needs being met. so morale certainly wasn't boosted. it was seen more as a political stunt. he doesn't have a great track record of making sure that the communities across the country are getting the assistance they need. heck, my community here in the state of florida has yet to receive any assistance in the agricultural sector from hurricane ian which devastated our agricultural sector. now we've taken another hit. this is a failure of leadership at the top. if he is serious he'll get his act together and usda and fema are actually getting those resources to these communities. >> julie: the migrant mess that continues in sanctuary cities across the country feeling the pressure from massive surge of people arriving from the southern border. in massachusetts, the governor has had to resort to deploy 250 national guard troops and declaring the state of emergency there. tents back and forth here in new york. democrats tearing into the biden administration for not helping the struggling city. in a letter last week dhs secretary mayokas outlined 20 things he thinks new york leaders could be doing better. the white house gave this excuse when asked why the president hasn't met with new york governor kathy hochul on the issue. watch. >> the president has a lot on his plate. as you said, it is an important issue as well. but when you have the chief of staff, when you have the secretary of homeland security there meeting with the governor, i have think that shows how important the president thought this meeting was to make sure he had his top people speaking with her as well. >> julie: we've seen the president enjoy his time at the beach a lot this summer, okay? he says he is touring the world. i see the world not all being in delaware. >> yeah. julie, this is infuriating. how about if he has a lot on his plate it should be his time spent at the border which at this point has been none. 40% of the time he spends on vacation. we're approaching the 9/11 anniversary he won't even be in the country for. that right there is deaf eaves stating as an american but also as the wife of a first responder. how dare he skip 9/11. that is heartbreaking. we have had 6 million plus illegals cross the border. we don't know where they came from. we know that they are going to be paroled into the country with a court date seven years down the road and devastated our communities. every town in america is a border town. fentanyl number one killer in the country, crime rampaging across the united states. and instead he is on vacation or out of the country. might as well say we are out of office. that's what should be hanging on the front door of the white house, closed, out of office, on vacation. >> julie: he will be in alaska on 9/11. certainly breaking tradition with every president that has been in office since that horrific day as we mark the anniversary coming up. florida congresswoman kat cammack, thank you very much for talking to us. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> rich: house republicans are trying to get their hands on president biden's emails. national archives missing the deadline to hand over the documents. they're looking at whether vice president biden was talking business with his son while using an alias. the latest on this from d.c. coming up next. of her refund to build an outdoor patio. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com clink! - wounded warrior project has been with me every step of my journey. - they've helped me realize it's possible to rise to the top again. - it's possible to get the help i need for me and my family. - it's possible to hate pushups again. - to feel understood. - to begin healing both inside and out. - to feel like myself again. - and now i know anything is possible. 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it could end up being an impeachment proceeding if they don't cooperate. that's what the threat has been from the right. david spunt, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> rich: law professor and fox news contributor jonathan turley has a warning about the president's emails out with a new op-ed biden's use of fake names in email could cost him. matt whitaker the former acting attorney general is here with us this morning. thank you for joining us. what can compel these emails to be released? do you think they will be released? >> they are going to get some of this. right now they are being reviewed by president biden's team and redact things that they claim executive privilege on or maybe the to/from. two are g-mail accounts. congress could subpoena google and get those. concerning the vice president's office was doing business on g-mail. that's a no no. you are supposed to use official email channels. this case continues to develop and i think ultimately especially if it's impeachment inquiry there will be significant documents, including these emails turned over. >> rich: when you look at what could become public. we saw from david's report. a lot had to do with g-mail addresses. if the then vice president is speaking about just to his son and having personal conversations, does that fall under a public record? but if it's with the national archives it must be public record. >> it sounds like the hillary clinton clinton private email server. there is a distinction between truly personal business, you can conduct and nobody should be able to see that ultimately and then official business. my understanding of some of these documents, they were the vice president's office telling hunter biden about the president's schedule, potentially about ukraine policy and things that would have been of interest to his business arrangements. i think that's where the rubber meets the road and where the house oversight committee is trying to dig in and get that information. because right now we've heard just little snippets of it. if that's the case, this could be an explosion heard all over d.c. and beyond. >> rich: congresswoman claudia tenney speaking about this. >> you have all this money going to the biden family not because they are all experts. certainly hunter biden is not an expert on energy. joe biden is an arrogant guy who can't control his mouth and that's i think everything about that reveals exactly who joe biden is. >> rich: we're at a point now where house republicans have been in this investigation for several months, several years now, a few years now, there is no direct link. but still having this relationship where you've got what republicans say is money going to family members doesn't look good. >> not only does it not look good but there is circumstantial evidence. for example, hunter biden was texting with his sister saying essentially i have to give 50% of my income to dad, to the vice president. and that is a meaningful piece of information, a piece of evidence in this overall scheme, it appears, where hunter biden is getting a million dollars a year, equivalent from burisma. he is getting several million dollars from the wife of the former mayor of moscow and then there is a dinner that followed that between vice president biden and this individual. so there is a lot of smoke and a lot of things, a lot of circumstantial evidence. as a former prosecutor i can tell you these are where you want to dig in and ultimately i'm not sure we will ever have the smoking gun, the direct evidence where joe biden admits that this was the scheme. but to me the points of the connections are being made right now as we speak. >> rich: do you think that republicans given in the conference there are a number of republicans calling for an impeachment inquiry, is that pre-mature at this point since we don't have that evidence? 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headwind that will be difficult to overcome. chris sununu with this advice. >> as for the other candidates running for president, i think you are right. they have to be a little tougher on trump. chris christie goes nuclear on him. he does a great job and exposes a lot of that. that's important. what we saw in the debate stage last week there was a little too much kowtowing to him. >> julie: we have our panel here. thank you both for talking to me today. matt, i will start with you. what do you make of new hampshire sununu's comments that the 2024 candidates have to be tougher on trump? >> i would say governor sununu, if he had some ideas he should have gotten in the race himself. i thought the debate the other night was a strong debate because we had a bunch of republicans talking about their ideas for the future, the biden failed presidency, and a couple of them took president trump on, christie, hutcheson, haley. most republican voters want them to talk about the vision for the few or and not attack each other. ron desantis came out and you could see it in the poll numbers as the best guy from that debate because he stayed positive and talked about his vision for the future. >> julie: the bickering is never an turn onfor the voters. the candidates were asked if they did not get the nomination would they support the former president, president trump if he were to clinch the nomination. most, as we all were watching, didn't raise their hand. vivek ramaswamy today. what do you think of that move? he got some odd looks from his candidates, fellow candidates there. is remaining a trump ally a good or bad move for republican candidates? >> i think the republican candidates are looking at who is going into the primary. it is hard to come full force and attack president trump. they will need his supporters. as we continue towards the primary, his federal charges won't bode well. right now you are still not having anybody breaking out. unless somebody can distinguish themselves and show they align with president trump on values but certainly can be a viable candidate against biden i don't think you will get a good candidate out of it so probably president trump. >> julie: a huge field still. you have to qualify for the second debate. those numbers are whittling down. matt, here is the former governor of maryland, larry hogan on narrowing the gop field. >> i think there is too many people in the field. you should not be in the race if you don't make the debate stage, you likely should consider getting out. if you are on the debate stage and you are willing to stand up and challenge the leader that is at 50%. if you are unwilling to challenge donald trump you should get off the stage. if you run for vice president or trying to be a cabinet secretary or become famous, write a book or get on television, you should get the heck out of the race. >> julie: you have chris christie, ron desandt, nikki haley, mike pence, vivek ramaswamy, tim scott. those who haven't qualified who met the polling and fundraising criteria, trump, candidates who have met the fundraising criteria for the second debate. doug burgum signed pledge and appeared at first debate and perry johnson. all right. so it's still a very large presence of candidates. i believe in the end that can hurt the top contenders, perhaps ron desantis would, matt, have higher numbers if he didn't have all these other contenders. at what point do you, when you are polling at single digits, decide you are hurting your party and it is time to bow out? >> i agree with governor hogan. this field has to get whittled down. we need to hear from the top contenders and hopefully have 1 or 2 of the top contenders debate president trump to see what their message is visa v as opposed to donald trump. christie and haley have taken on trump on certain issues that republican primary voters agree with him on. desantis on covid and also that he had the four years to clean up this mess at the justice department at the f.b.i. and he failed to do so. the swamp ended up beating him in 2020. i think we have to get down to 2 or 3 people in the field. without that i agree that likely president trump gets renominated. there are too many people taking him on. >> julie: we're out of time. thank you both. we appreciate you both for coming on today. be sure to tune into the second primary republican debate that is coming up on september 27th on fox business, stuart varney, dana perino and ilia calderon are monitoring. september 27th, mark your calendar. >> rich: aaa says it is looking like a busier labor day weekend than last year. they expect to hit and road and sky and make their way home after the holiday. garrett tenney is keeping an eye on o'hare international in chicago. >> more than half of all americans were expected to get out of town for the labor day weekend and most of them are headed home today. the good news is that so far there are no widespread delays and cancellations at the 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from hitting the road. >> that means they might not stay at the most expensive hotels. might go out for a hamburger instead of a state. anxious to get out of town for the last trip. >> the airlines passed the last test of the summer travel season. there are concerns that things could get ugly moving into the holidays with potential strikes from both southwest airlines pilots and united -- american airlines flight attendants. that is something to keep an eye on as you start to make holiday plans. >> rich: garrett, thank you. >> julie: fed up with america's crime crisis los angeles jewelry store employees fight back and beat their would be thief. we break down the shocking video next. kayaking is my thing. running is awesome. but her moderate to severe eczema would make her skin so uncomfortable. i was always so itchy especially when i was hot. now my skin doesn't itch as much. now we're staying ahead of her eczema. there's a power inside all of us to live our passion. and dupixent works 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beatdown. christina coleman is live in los angeles with more. i love the ending of this story, christina. >> i do, too. i want to warn our audience footage of this attempted robbery is graphic. on saturday in broad daylight a man dressed in all black wearing a donald trump mask whips out bear spray and fires it directly into the face of a man sitting outside a jewelry store just east of l.a. the guy goes inside the family-owned business and starts smashing a glass display with a hammer. the family members who own the store tried to stop him. the owner of the business says during this terrifying moment she thought more thieves would bust into the store like so many smash and grabs we've seen in california. only one suspect in this case. this guy who blasted bear spray into the face of multiple people as he tried to steal jewelry from this family-owned business. >> he sprayed bear spray to my dad and uncle and brother. i didn't know what do to. it was chile on your body. >> the staff used a stick to beat the guy and punched and kicked him trying to keep their hard-earned maryland in endsing up in the hands of this thief. the man's shirt gets ripped off as he breaks away. take a look at that. just a mess. the guy runs off empty-handed with his pants falling down. staff says the guy browseed through the store three weeks earlier. security footage helpful to the investigation. unfortunately this suspect is still on the loose. julie. >> julie: thank you very much, christina. >> rich: youth crime getting out of control in the nation's capital. d.c. enforcing the juvenile curfew. two teens were killed and a third hospitalized after being shot. major retailers also feeling the effects of crime in d.c. giant grocery stores here removed brands like advil, colgate and tide from their shelves. the company's president says we want to be able to continue to serve the community but we can't do so at the level of significant loss or risk to our associates that we have today. jason rantz, seattle talk radio host has a new book what's killing america. here in d.c. you see store eaves on a daily basis where police are looking for suspect in armed robberies, carjackings, 17, 16, 13 years old. what is going on? >> we're seeing this not just in d.c. but all around the country where there is very clearly a surge in juvenile crime. sometimes not just stealing but sometimes it is carjacking, armed carjacking, sometimes murder. why we are seeing this three main reasons. we had 2 1/2 years of demonizing police. teenagers saw that. when you don't have a respect for law enforcement it makes it easier to commit crimes. we do not punish juvenile criminals. they promise to go into a group therapy session that they don't actually have to go to and they end up getting off scot-free. number three something we don't talk about at all is we still have broken families. we still have a problem with broken families in this country. when you are -- when you are a boy and don't have a strong father figure in your household, you don't have someone to look up to, statistically you're on a higher path of going down this potential pathway than otherwise you would. i think that's something that we generally don't talk about anymore. >> rich: here in d.c. you have a push by a number of people in law enforcement saying you have to start trying some of these teenagers as adults. the other side of the coin that says you can't put 15-year-olds in prison and get them started and set them up for the rest of their life. how do you balance all of that? >> i totally agree with that. the problem is we're holding that position for kids who are violent, who are using guns, who are actually shooting or stabbing people. that's the difference. i don't think anyone has an appetite to throw a kid in jail because he stole a butter finger from a 7/11. when are you involved in a shooting or armed theft. you can get justice. we have to step back and say is it worth the risk that we fail in saving this kid who has already proven to the dangerous at the expense of your everyday citizen who could be a kid ends up getting shot and killed by one of these people. >> rich: a lot of violent crime has gone down in major cities in the northeast part of the country. not the case here. what has seattle been like? are you the epicenter for a long time in 2020, the chop district and all that. has there been an improvement in seattle? what are we seeing there? >> we see violent crime on the rise. we're at 54 deaths as of this morning, homicides. last year we were at 56. so we're going to exceed last year. we'll go to likely at this pace exceed our record high 69 that was done back in 1994 because of how many murders that were happening every month. we have a depleted police department. it makes sense there are criminals taking advantage of this. and yet we have no democrat leader -- i point out democrats. they are the ones in charge -- standing up and saying we have a crisis, here is a plan. we hear from the mayor who says i will talk about coming up with my plan at some point in the near future. doesn't actually follow through. we have cops just completely understaffed. >> rich: all right. jason rantz, thank you for joining us this afternoon. very much appreciate it. >> appreciate it. thank you. >> rich: here we are. labor day weekend get your travel done. we'll hang local. >> julie: another holiday spent together. let's not bury the lead here once again i get to enjoy a holiday with you. >> rich: i think we started the summer and now we'll end it. put a bow on it. >> julie: absolutely. always great to work with you. one day we'll be in the same studio hopefully. >> rich: sounds good. 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