president donald trump will land in atlanta, then his motorcade will make its way to the fulton county jail behind me where inside we are told well outside it is actually hard security lockdown here inside the sheriff says he will be treated just like any other criminal defendant. he will be fingerprinted. he'll surrender and, yes, it's anticipated that he will take the first presidential mugshot in history. outside the jail today over 100 or about 100 trump supporters rallied outside the jail behind barricades in front of dozens of shersheriff deputies. today trump shook up legal team hiring steve sadou new legal attorney. criminal based defense attorney tonight the first legal move was to oppose district foreign fani willis new proposed trial date of october 23rd. the d.a. wants to try all 19 defendants nearly five months sooner that than she originally proposed in request by speedy trial co-defendant kenneth. tonight the judge agreed to the speedy trial date but only chess bro. serge his case from the other 18. congress is now investigating d.a. willis. today house judiciary chairman jim jordan launched a probe into her trump investigation. jordan is demanding documents as he looks into weather the d.a. spent any federal dollars and whether she coordinated with special counsel jack smith's investigation. in a letter to the d.a., jordan justified the probe this way, quote: given the weighty federal interest at stake, the committee is conducting oversight of this matter to determine whether any legislative reforms are appropriate or necessary. 11 of trump's 18 co-defendants have now surrendered including former white house chief of staff mark meadows. the deadline to surrender is tomorrow at noon. tonight, the former president will be released on $200,000 bond and, bret, the former president says that he will surrender at 7:30 tonight at this jail. bret? >> bryan llenas in atlanta. brian, thank you. let's bring in george washington university law professor jonathan turley good evening, jonathan. >> good evening. >> bret: this is a little different. this is a processing that is handled different and it looks like a mugshot is going to happen here for the former president of the united states it does. this is going to be a particularly demeaning process for the president because of that there is going to be a mugshot. there is going to be bond. it's going to have all the elements of the criminal process. some of which he was spared in the earlier indictments. and in the end, it's going to, i think, reaffirm what people already believe about the case on both sides. you know, many on the left have gotten to a point of salute ecstasy in anticipation of this mugshot. there's a type of thrill-kill environment waiting for that mugshot to come out. on the right this is a frustrating moment. they view this as the weaponization of the criminal process by a democratic prosecutor. and that's why i think this is ultimately pretty damaging to our country right now. we are already very divided. and what happens about to happen, i think is going to push people further to the extremes. >> bret: you're right. listen, this image will be remembered through history, and both sides will look at it differently, but it will be indelible mark, a historic mark, whether you think it's really horrible what is he going through and shouldn't happen or you think it's really what he should face for justice. i want to listen to rudy giuliani former lawyer for the president, former new york city mayor. fani willis will go down in american history as having conducted one of the worst attacks on the american constitution ever when this case is dismissed. she has violated people's first amendment right to advocate. to say petition the government for grievances like an election they believe was poorly conducted or falsely conducted. people have a right to believe that in america. >> bret: there is this push to have a speedy trial on october 23rd is supposed to be the possible date for this trial to begin. >> bret: they have got these 19 people. >> yeah. >> bret: former president trump and 18 others. how is this going to happen? how? >> right. you had your hands full with 8 people in wisconsin trying to make their case. >> bret: very true. >> you could double that add three and put their liberty at stake and can you imagine what that courtroom is going to be like. i can't, honestly, see how that date is even possible. i think it undermines the credibility of the prosecution to set such a date. what's the interesting factor here is the request for a speedy trial by one of the defendants. that defendant has a right to a speedy trial. most defendants waive that right because time works to the advantage of the defense in terms of getting more evidence and try to figure out what the best defense may be. so, for those defendants that are seeking a speedy trial, they may have to be severed, in order to fulfill their constitutional rights. >> bret: the last thing, quickly, i mean, won't they have to do batches of them? i mean, i don't think we have ever seen 19 people in a courtroom, have we? >> i think that it would be a circus, frankly, i think it would do an injustice. there are bunches of defendants here, that is defendants who are leaned to critical acts, things like accessing voting machines, or putting together alternative elector lists. things of that type. you can bunch them together. i just don't see the value of having this mass trial. i think it's going to just add to the really uncomfortable feeling that many people have about this. that it has -- looks like a political trial. there is some legitimate, you know, there is some strong charges here. some of these defendants are looking at a really tough going in court when you deal with some of these insular crimes. but i don't think that they are all need to be tried together. in fact, i think it would -- really undermine all of the trial to try to get it all done at one time. >> bret: jonathan turley, as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> bret: well, no shortage of emotion, aggressiveness, confrontation during last night's first republican debate of the 2024 election cycle. the candidates trying to make the most of the fact that the clear frontrunner in this race, former president trump, was not on that stage. chief washington correspondent mike emanuel joins us now with highlights. good evening, mike. >> bret, good evening. a feisty debate as eight republican candidates tried to stand out in a crowd. >> as republicans, i'm the only person on the stage who isn't bought and paid for. >> i've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like chatgpt. >> we don't need a president who is too old and we don't need a president who is too young. >> some of them are now trying to maintain the momentum while others are clarifying their remarks. >> there was kind of a lot of cross chatter that was going on and, you know, my thing is like, look, we are auditioning to be the president of the united states. >> tonight -- >> the morning after the first g.o.p. primary debate candidates were out putting an exclamation point on their main themes from the debate stage. the only woman candidate in the debate called for being honest and realistic on abortion. >> all americans do agree we shouldn't have late term abortions. i think they do agree we should encourage more adoptions and good quality adoptions. >> south carolina senator tim scott said there must be federal action on abortion to avoid liberal states offering abortion on demand. >> we have to create a culture of life in this country, and that starts with the 15-week limit. seven out of 10 americans agree with that position. >> today, former vice president mike pence emphasized his resume. >> what we need is leadership that has the experience and the proven conservative credentials. >> last night, pence launcheds this attack on political newcomer vivek ramaswamy. >> now is not the time for on the job training. we don't need to bring in a rookie. >> ramaswamy was clearly the light any rod of the debate. >> the problem that vivek doesn't understand is he wants to hand ukraine to russia. he wants to let china eat at this taiwan. >> ramaswamy fired back at haley. >> wish you well on your future degree on the boards of lockheed and raytheon. >> when asked if the support the former president if he is the g.o.p. nominee. christie and former arkansas govgovernor asa hutchison did nt raise their hands facing a chorus of boos from the audience. >> here's the bottom line, someone has got to stop normalizing this conduct. >> desantis is still polling second in most polls. the gap between him and former president trump has been growing but the candidate who took the most heat was ramaswamy. his campaign has been surging in recent polling, suggesting candidates may no longer see desantis as their most immediate threat. bret? >> bret: all right, mike. thank you. more on this with the panel a bit later. president biden's campaign has had plenty of time and plenty of things to say about the debate, all of it, as you can imagine, negative towards the candidates and their policies. white house correspondent peter doocy also a that part of the story tonight live from the north lawn. good evening, peter. >> peter: bret, president biden's long dormant re-election campaign is coming alive even though the bidens were mentioned less than examined. two mentions for hunter biden. 29 mentions for the president. >> we will send joe biden back to his basement. >> biden's inflation is choking us. >> joe biden has weakened america at home and abroad. >> peter: the biden campaign is pushing back on g.o.p. claims of climate. >> more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change. >> saying, despite another record breaking summer, maga republicans have railed against efforts to take action on climate and some continue to deny its very existence. the biden campaign also caught this on crime. >> we have plenty of room in the federal prisons to lock up these violent criminals and clean up what's going on. >> responding, quote: maga republicans shout crime instead of coming to the table with real solutions because they are more concerned with protecting the nra than they are with protecting our kids and communities. there was a common ground on the debt. >> biden didn't do this to us. our republicans did this to us, too. >> a biden spokesman says nikki haley is right. republicans are responsible for some of our country's worst economic decisions. vice president harris put out a statement before the president. her assessment, quote: no one on stage won tonight's debate instead of american people heard how much they stand to lose from an extremist agenda. but there was a winner. >> person with the best night was joe biden. most of them blew their big chance to seem presidential. >> president biden already knows how trump debates. they have done it twice. we don't have his scouting report on these other republicans he may have to debate next year if he shows up to the debate at all because president biden has not been seen or heard from on a huge political day he remains on vacation. bret? 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>> bret: c.b., thank you. >> a judge has ruled in maryland against a group of parents upset over lgbtq material in their children's school curriculum. correspondent griff jenkins is live tonight in montgomery county, maryland with the very latest. good evening, griff. >> hey, bret. good evening. and windows montgomery county public school students return to class on monday. parents won't be able to opt them out of lessons in the curriculum they believe are contrary to their religious beliefs after months of appealing to a school board and a lawsuit seeking temporary relief of federal judge just a few hours ago denied a request for an injunction to give parents an opt out while the case continued, bret. at the center of the controversial curriculum books that focus on lgbtq and transgender issues for students as young as kindergarten. the director of the parental rights groups family rights for religious freedom has this reaction. >> we are very resilient and we are very determined because our religious beliefs are on the line. we are requesting our first amendment rights to free exercise and we will not stop until we get that here. >> and the ruling against the parents, the judge writes this, quote: public schools are not owe blinged to shield individual students from ideas which potentially are religiously offensive. continuing: particularly when the school imposes no requirement that the student violate his or her faith during classroom instruction. >> earlier today several residents on both sides of the issue spoke to the school board. we caught up to them. here's what they had to say. >> this is about the children. they are children. they should not be exposed to things that they don't even understand. it's that simple. >> i don't think individuals in our public education system should be able to opt out of any lessons about any of our amazing differs personalities and amazing diverse identities. >> so, a setback for the parents but attorneys representing them in the lawsuit say they will, indeed, appeal. this bret? >> bret: griff, thank you. new york governor kathy hochul is urging the white house to provide expedited work authorization for asylum seekers. she also wants financial assistance for the city and state, the use of federal lands and facilities and reimbursement for nearly 2,000 new york national guard members. new york city mayor eric adams responded by saying that he is disappointed. the state appears to be memo mizeing its role in the crisis. he says the state must fulfill its duty to more than 8 million residents who call new york city home. ukraine is marking its second independence day since russia's full scale invasion. officials are vowing to keep up their fight to try to drive out the kremlin's forces. norway's prime minister says his country will donate f-16 fighter jets to ukraine. norway would be the third european country to make such a commitment following the netherlands and denmark. funding for ukraine is one of the most divisive issues facing republicans in congress. only one candidate came out against it during last night's presidential candidate debate. congressional correspondent aishah hasnie has details from capitol hill. >> you have no foreign policy experience and it shows. >> one of the biggest digs of wednesday night's debate came as g.o.p. hopefuls clashed over ukraine. >> you are protecting against invasion across somebody else's border when we should christ use those same military sources to protect across the invasion of our own southern border. >> vivek ramaswamy the self-proclaimed outsider says he will end russia's war by handing vladimir putin the disputed donbas region and ban ukraine from entering nato. the plan horrifying some of his challengers. >> they have gouged out people's eyes, cut off their ears. >> vivek, if we do the give away, it's not going to be too long before he rolls across a nato border. >> ron desantis wants european allies to pull their weight. >> our support should be contingent on them doing it. >> nikki haley pushing back. >> if you look at the percentages per g.d.p., 11 of the european countries have given more than the u.s. >> friction reflects a deep divide within the republican party over the war. >> to the media reports saying this is a stalemate, you are wrong. >> hours before the debate, senator lindsey graham, a staunch ukraine supporter visited kyiv alongside two democrats as the white house tells ukraine congress will approve an additional 24 billion in aid. but some conservatives are already lashing out over plans to tie the money to fema assistance in a short-term government funding bill. >> that is all nothing more than an exercise to try and block republicans into this support. >> and bret today the pentagon announced that the u.s.s. will begin training ukrainian pilots on f-16s right here at home in tucson, arizona. as early as october. bret? 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let's bring in our panel fox news senior political analyst juan williams. katie pavlich news editor at town hall.com and jason riley "wall street journal" columnist senior fellow at the mid-atlantic institutes. a lot of policy to talk about. we spent the first hour really on a number of different policy issue and the top of the second hour mentioned the former president for the first time. jason, your overall assessment of what you heard? >> i thought it was a very useful debate. i'm glad you did spend that first hour talking about policies. trump wasn't there. he'll come under criticism for not being there. i understand that criticism. and probably didn't himself any favors by choosing alternative forum where he was not going to be challenged on his views or record and so forth. the voters will decide on that. i think he did the party a favor, in some sense, by not showing up because we got a chance to hear the views of other people running for the nomination, how they would take the country forward. and i thought you and martha did a great job of not letting trump dominate both hours of the debate. and people got a chance to hear what other people, who are running for the nomination would do. and so i thought, over all, it was very, very useful, useful two hours. >> bret: yeah. when they got to hear. obviously the candidates took control at some point. what you didn't see is they have these lights that face them. that's a green light. a red light. a green light, yellow light, red light and their time is heading towards being finished and then you heard the bell. well, you know, vice president pence definitely rolled through the bell a number of times. there was a lot of interchanges where it was tough to herd the cats, katie. your thoughts overall on that? >> well, my favorite part of the debate was actually you and martha opening it up by mentioning the song rich men north of richmond. because it's such a cultural moment that song, which has gone global. it's the number one song on the billboard charts. took over all the charts here in the united states and every chart it's number one. and it really is a reflection of how washington, d.c. and democrats and some republicans, mostly democrats over the past two years with all the extra spending they have done have really inflicted serious pain on american families and made it much more difficult for them to get ahead. and it's on everybody. inflation is a permanent tax. the biden administration keeps trying to claim that inflation has come down. it hasn't come down it. just means that prices are not going up as quickly as they were before. in terms of the debate and the results of it, i thought that mike pence looked a little bit desperate. he was punching up in terms of polling at vivek ramaswamy but he really looked like he was punching down because he continued to go back and forth with the interruptions. but, ron desantis kind of, right in the middle, president trump was not there, and, according to the polling that's come out post debate he has actually made some headway when it comes to consideration from voters and, according to the polls, 50% of g.o.p. primary voters could be undecided. so a little bit of movement for him and for nikki haley as well. >> bret: yeah, nikki haley as well. i think i heard a number of pundits for him having some big moments on abortion, on foreign policy and kind of hitting her marks, juan. take a listener to this. g.o.p. candidates. a couple other moments clashing in milwaukee. >> if you want something said ask a man. if you want something done, ask a woman. [cheers] >> i'm the only person on the stage who isn't bought and paid for. >> you have never done anything to try to advance the interest of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate tonight. >> i think the american people deserve to know whether everyone on this stage agrees that i kept my oath to the constitution that day. >> mike did his duty. i got no beef with him. is this what we're going to be focusing on. >> i'm relieved. >> democrats would love that and they will win if we let them get away with it. >> bret: obviously at that point we had spent the whole hour before that talking about policy. politico writes: desantis was ignored by g.o.p. rivals. ron desantis expected to take the brunt of his opponent's fire instead he faded into the crowd largely ignored for two hours by his lower polling rivals on webs. the florida governor watched as the first debate of the g.o.p. primary turned into a pile on on vivek ramaswamy. juan, what do you think? >> well, i think that's about right. mike pence gave you a lot of trouble, bret, but he got the most of the time, the camera time as a result. you know, and he had some good points to make on abortion, for example. i think he was very resolute in his evangelical point of view. but, the real focus of the evening turned out to be ramaswamy and it's clear that the other candidates see him a threat. otherwise they would not have been so loaded forebare when it came to going after him. i thought nikki haley though when it came to ukraine she made mince meat of his argument and pence went at him again. the entire stage seemed to be saying he was amateur. he was called chatgpt candidate. a lot of that fire indicates where people see movement in the polls in the g.o.p. primary other than that the key point desantis the number two to donald trump in all the polls, again, he came in losing support in terms of the polls. he has been sliding. losing donors. and even losing staff. and, yesterday, he, again, it did look like he was an after thought on the stage. he was standing there. but i can't tell you that he made an impression. some of the fallout from that section of the debate last night. this is on cavuto today. the question is if he is a convicted felon owhy want to support him? i don't believe it's right for a convicted felon to be the president of the united states i don't think any republican should want our standard-bearer, let alone our president of the united states, to be a convicted felon. >> bret: yeah. jason. that was the hand raise and kind of was like one side of the row raised their hands and everybody looked at everybody else and kind of made it down to christie and asa hutchison who didn't raise their hand. what about this? we're going to talk about the former president on the other side of the break it wasn't just everyone looking down the row. i think this is probably ron desantis' weakest point of the evening. because he looked to his left and his right before he decided whether to raise his hand and answer that question. and that did not come off well, i think. he should have anticipated that question coming. should have anticipated it coming. vivek ramaswamy did steal a lot of the thunder of the evening. he got most of the attention. that's who we're talking about today. but i didn't find his argument particularly substantive. he came off to me a little congress sure for someone only polling at 7, 7 and a half percent nationally. so i did think that compared to him, the nikki haleys and the mike pences had a pretty good night. and i think they were able to answer a lot of the sort of glib responses. i'm the only one not bought and so forth with some substance. i think people were looking at that and that will resonate. >> bret: a lot of people tuned in. it was a big, big night for viewership about 12.8 million combined the viewership. so, thanks for tuning in. when we come back, in just a few minutes, the former president is going to land in georgia and is he going to make his way to the fulton county jail. there you see the airport. and he is going to be processed, including a mugshot there we'll talk about that and what comes next in all of this. and, later, a special first day of school. ♪ ♪ age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv >> bret: if former president trump is convicted in a court of law, would you still support him as your party's choice? please raise your hand if you would. [cheers] >> bret: all right, there's the moment we were referring to earlier in the show. as you look live at hartsfield international airport, we are waiting for trump air to land there. the former president's plane coming from new jersey, as he lands to be processed at the fulton county jail. and we're back with the panel. katie, this is different. there's going to be a mugshot. there is a full-on processing in fulton county and we talk a lot about moments and images. no matter what you -- how you look at this, it is indelible image. >> state charges so the president cannot seek a federal pardon either from himself from a republican or presidential candidate. stacey abrams ran for governor in the same state of georgia. she lost to brian kemp. she filed a lawsuit contesting that election. she lost. she pushed money into a group that funded false information about voting machines. and, yet, she is not in the same position of indictment as president trump and his election attorneys. so that's really the crux of the issue here, not mention the d.a. who has brought these charges, fani willis campaigned on going after president trump himself fundraising off what she has filed. >> bret: we are looking live just outside the jail there. there's a lot of security already. juan, your thoughts? this the real world answer the question that you posed last night at the debate with the candidates raising their hands. you know, only two didn't raise their hands, as you pointed out, christie and asa hutchison but there was also the roar from the crowd. the crowd apparently, you know, most republicans are still backing trump even after four now indictments. this is historic, unprecedented and real world. this is where it's playing out. >> bret: juan, obviously they have a chance to make their case in all of these courtrooms and a lot of those g.o.p. voters, jason, are saying he is wrongly being accused and charged here and every indictment his poll numbers have gone up, his fundraising has gone up. sure, but we saw a bunch of people on the stage last night that i think could beats a very vulnerable joe biden in terms of his popularity in the polling and job performance and so forth. the question is will republicans go with someone like donald trump who will have all this baggage with him while is he running to replace joe biden versus someone who does not have this baggage? and i think it's something we'll see. but, to me, i think that republicans might re-think if there is actually an a conviction of whether to go with donald trump as the nominee, baggage and all? >> bret: we'll see. he is obviously up 30, 40, 50 points depending on the poll you look at. as i mentioned to governor desantis last night in the debate. panel, thank you, as we continue to look like at the airport and all these transport things. we take them because it's a moment. it's the 45th president of the united states that's going to all these courtrooms. tomorrow on "special report," our whatever happened to segment we'll have that thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. please remember if you can't catch us, set your dvr 3:00 3 p.m.west coast and 6 p.m. on e east coast. "the ingraham angle" is next right here on fox news channel. ♪ ♪ >> laura: hello, everyone, i'm laura ingraham ingraham ankle from washington. all eyes tonight on fulton county, georgia, where donald trump is expected to turn himself in this hour over charges that he tried to overturn the election, using enrique and the kitchen sink against him. expecting him to land any second in atlanta and drive directly to the jail to be processed, they say, like any other criminal which includes democrats' fever dream a donald trump mugshot. recall that liberal d.a. fani willis handed down that kitchen were sink indictment focusing on