afghanistan. the families of the service members killed in the bombing are demanding answered. >> i will fight until my last breath to get to the truth. shannon: will discuss two years of the taliban takeover with congressman michael mccaul. adam smith top arms democrat. then surprised about with the hunter biting criminal investigation. >> on here today to announce he plummeted david weiss as a special counsel. >> are trying to put out a fire and they just poured gasoline on it progress we will ask our sunday pendant what role the courtroom dramas could play on 2024. plus she is the best-selling female gospel artist of all time but we go one on one. >> no matter where you are in life you are praying for something. you are believing for something. shannon: alrig all right now onx news sunday." ♪ we begin this morning breaking news. nearly 100 people are confirmed dead on the island of maui. making it the single deadliest disaster in hawaii's history. the deadliest u.s. wildfire in more than 100 years. catastrophic blazes began tearing through multiple areas of the state tuesday night. many residents and tourists caught completely off guard. these drone images out of west maui show the intense flames as i quickly spread across the island. this is some of the utter destruction left behind devastating damage and multiple areas. homes and communities reduced to just ashes. residents now wondering where to turn. take a look at the before and after satellite imagery of the historic town of lahaina. it was nearly burned to the ground a spot below by locals and tourists alike decimated. fox news senior national correspondent william has been on the ground talking with those impacted by the devastating fires. quick shannon, there are a lot of questions like why didn't maui activate the emergency alert system to get people more time. but for those living here it is much more simple. are my friends alive? where my going to live? do i have a job? and how do we recover? what's right over there and born and raised here is planning on raising my 3-year-old daughter there. >> like most of lahaina today to date lie lean is homeless but se family members died, others she learned survived. plus she finally answers her phone. like she has a 1-year-old baby. yesterday was his birthday. lahaina was small nice historical place and it is gone biggest hurricane dora passed 600 miles south of hawaii. no one predicted high winds, they were wrong. >> the kristi smoke was so black and so thick we were worried about getting killed from the smoke. >> watch thwatched the entire ma including the boats inside. in flames. >> there's no route to go north or south or toward the mountains? the only escape once the thing swooped in was to get in the water park with gary savage jumped off the brake with dozens of others spending the next eight hours in the water before being rescued progress i don't know man, i almost say just dumb luck. i feel lucky and guilty for having the home for. >> this film had just seconds to evacuate. maui never activated its emergency siren system. >> there were no emergency sounds but did not sound off these tsunami warnings for. >> officials refused to say why. many died in their cars trying to escape. she jammed her car and there, trapping her inside. in the car and next to her burst into flame to quickly search for victims continues with just 3% of structures expected by cadaver dogs. countless remained unaccounted for. fema is mobilizing resources. the biggest challenge, housing. 4500 need shelter. >> we are not taking anything off the table perks fema director and governor josh green said the hotels promise 1000 rooms progress bring in temporary houses with the tools we have in our toolbox. we can also do other things. like work with direct leasing and use some of the available vacation homes. >> for the generations that have built lahaina the cultural heart of maui, is broken. >> i can look at structures i don't remember what that was. nothing here is recognizable to me. >> there is a curfew in effect. this is where that lined begins this will stretch for miles in a matter of hours. shannon: william la jeunesse reporting live from maui. if you like to help people affected by the wildfires you can donate at redcross.org/foxfoward or justice very quickly text hawaii to 90999 and you'll make a tendo donation. back here in washington criminal trial now appears hunt for hunter bided a plea deal involves being tax and gun related charges this phone apart. this week a special counsel, a familiar face many conservatives do not trust was tapped to lead the ongoing investigation. as an unprecedented time in american pilots ahead of 20243 active special councils whose investigations all have ties to the leading candidates from both parties. jack smith heading both of donald trump's cases and his handling of classified documents. in his alleged efforts to overturn 2020 election results. then there is robert her hurt investigating president biden's classified documents case appeared and now the appointment of david weiss overseeing the charges facing the son of a sitting president. we will break all this down just a minute with our legal panel. the first lucas thomason joins us life of the white house with the status of all of these ongoing investigations hello lucas. the white house hope the best get 200 by newbie over to focus on 2024. to date both sides are in far apart on a plea deal the case could go to trial special counsel has been named. >> mr. weiss in his capacity as u.s. attorney began investigating allegations of certain criminal conduct by, among others, robert hunter bided. garth trumchris trump appointedr david weiss had been leading hunter bided pro for the past five years. his appointment could allow them to bring more charges against hunter outside delaware. for years republicans have accused the justice department of interfering in the probe. the chairman of house oversight committee says hunter received $20 million from foreign sources. including china, russia, and ukraine. while his father was president. >> joe was right front and center in this one. this is a case about joe biden. >> president biden has long denied any involvement in his son's overseas business dealings. [inaudible] has done nothing wrong i'm confident because i've never spoken to my side about his overseas business for. >> back in washington on friday a federal judge to former president donald trump to cool it on social media after this "truth social" post following his third indictment. the judge showing trump's attorneys quote i caution you and your client to take special care in your public statements about this case. george's former lieutenant governor will appear before a grand jury on tuesday a possible trump indictment trump was sworn into office in 2017 georgia had to republican senators. today it has none. shannon: lucas thompson reporting live at the white house. thank you lucas. now to our legal panel george washington university law professor jonathan turley ed thomas debris former principal deputy assistant attorney general, welcome back to both of you. this is becoming a regular thing. [laughter] there's plenty of legal wrangling and d.c. and beyond so let's talk about this. abby lowell went up under biden's attorneys spoke about this appointment of david weiss and weather confers new powers here's what he said. >> once again people need to understand the attorney general and he, h he mr. weiss, has said for a long time he had all of the authority that he needed to bring any charge that was appropriate in any place. so what does a special counsel do he could not do? not me think different progress that begs a lot of difference. robert and jim jordan tweeted first david weiss that he did not have the power when it special counsel status. then he said he won all the power he needs. now get special counsel status because he did not have the power he needs? something's not right. so what you make of the timing and the selection? what shorebird first is a special counsel does have greater power now that he did a week ago before he got his appointment has the power to bring charges and new different jurisdictions he also has a little bit more insulation from the potable fray. she sent one 100% independent mayor karl and pulled the strings but he has a little more power put all that said is important to understand just because a special counsel has more power does not mean he's kind of exercise that power. it would not surprise me if this is just a way for the biden administration to cool the flames a little bit on the spot like this and put on hunter bided. does low special counsel to bring hunter bite into trouble bringing charges and new jurisdictions by think the jury is still out literally on whether the special councils going to bring more serious charges against hunter bided her potentially name additional defendants. our justice producer asked to the d.o.j. may include investing invest inthe current sitting pr? declined to comment on the that. here's what irs whistleblower said this is whether the present should be worried. >> oinvestigative steps that clearly indicated the hundred biden father president biden some type of involvement. we were not allowed to follow the leads. >> jonathan what you think are the odds the justice department would actually be invested in the head of the executive branch? >> why wouldn't you answer that question? you just gave great detail to the scope of the investigation of hundred biden. you won't tell where the president is subject to that mandate. there is no reason for that producer point of clarity. we were telling rank and file were not going to investigate the president there is a sense of reluctance. god help us and we have another special counsel. we are speaking to the only two d.c. lawyers who are not currently serving as special counsel. [laughter] >> i am not either brickwork so three of us have a lock. [laughter] we are busy. the question is why wouldn't you expand the mandate? what why would you select this individual? the fact is he by the nostalgia by going outside the department of justice but that is happened before. but then the person who is just accused by members of his own investigation of a fixed investigation. he doesn't result the underlying concerns about your leadership is likely to feel calls on the hill were to talk about that with the panel a little doesn't throw fuel on the fire at centigram seder making things worse. what about the congressional investigations? let me read something from the wall street journal editorial board they said special counsel status is politically convenient for weiss and garland because it means both men the ongoing investigation justice likely to wallop fbi agent for get up members the biden family congress probe may hit a dead end. the same time called nurturing the oversight committee we are going to subpoena members the biden family progress absolutely. before all this seven check they're going to go up and testify and talk about it. we have no doubt the administration is going to do a 180 on this very strongly suspect weiss is going to say wait a minute it's an ongoing investigation by the world has changed i can no longer come and testify. i will take a rain check and see you in a year. i think it is critical for congress to keep his foot on the accelerator here. getting information documents testimony whistleblower testimony. not need to let up on the contrary they need to put keep pushing forward a special counsel investigation. whatever form and shape it takes in bold. shannon: we have a protective order the d.c. case from the feds essentially went to court to decide what information the former president will be able to release judge in that case the friday hearing yield to the justice in hip and that means it does not mean exactly what he wants that's how it's gonna have to be the fuller present his legal team of documents for >> rights. you know he likes to talk about this, the prosecutors a judge every thing else involved. potentially violating that order getting himself a gag order? what does the ultimate straight line without breaking a smile and saying the court expects to show restraint on social media. that is not likely to happen. donald trump could trip the wire and force the issue of a gag order that could go quickly to the supreme court there are aspects of the current order i find troubling. they say he cannot take any notes his lawyers have to watch him at all times. when he looks at evidence for this is evidence that is supposedly mostly going to end up in a trial. i am more concerned with the sensitive material the judge that i'm going to go with the te definition of sensitive material it's a very ambiguous term. this does not look good in terms of the chance of a confrontation. the potential of a gag order. i hope she does not go in that direction. i think it wo will be reversed. part of the campaign will be the merits of this case. 80 million in jurors potentially an indictment coming there thank you very much. we returned two years since the taliban take over in afghanistan. what to make of the buildings in your tax dollars contending to flow to that regime question at the family member with u.s. service members killed in that chaotic withdrawal say they still cannot get answers. >> admit to your mistakes. learn from them. so this does not happen ever, ever again. zevo. people-friendly. bug-deadly. ♪ ♪ we're reinventing our network... ...with smarter, more efficient routes... ...so you can deliver more value to your customers. fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service. young lady who was, mid 30s, couple of kids, recently went through a divorce. she had a lot of questions when she came in. i watched my mother go through being a single mom. at the end of the day, my mom raised three children, including myself. and so once the client knew that she was heard. we were able to help her move forward. your client won't care how much you know until they know how much you care. ♪ this is american infrastructure. megawatts of power, rails and open road, and essential services of every kind. all running on countless invisible networks, making it a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google also defends the systems running america's infrastructure. for these services. for the 336 million of us living here. ♪ okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune, muscle, bone, and heart health. yaaay! woo hoo! ensure with 25 vitamins and minerals and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ shannon: tuesday marks two years and the abrupt u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. they should watch the scenes unfold you remember this. people trying to back with the country in a chaotic and deadly exit. despite assurances that would not happen the taliban did quickly regain power in a matter of about 10 days. since he exit from america's longest work house republicans have demanded answers about the administration handling that situation. now with control of the house of gop has ramped up investigations into the white house response in the final days leading up to the u.s. departure. this week lawmakers heard emotional testimony for the first time directly from family members of some of the 13 service members killed in a suicide bombing at the airport. in a moment we will bring and chair of house foreign affairs committee and adam smith top democrat on house armed services committee. during his first in cedar fox news congressional correspondent aishah hasnie it with a more in the testimonies. >> very, very emotional. i'm sure watching as well. these families, a lot of them have been silent for the past two years that is because there waiting patiently for this administration to explain the decisions made on the ground. now they are tired of waiting. and they are lashing out. >> i live every single day knowing these deaths were preventable. my daughter could be with us today. >> a christie chokes up as she remembers her daughter-in-law sgt nicole one of the 13 u.s. service members killed by a suicide bomber at the airport during that chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan. this week she and five other gold star families spoke out at a public forum. accusing the biden administration of failing their children and trying to cover it up. >> their allies given incomplete reports, incorrect reports. total disrespect for. >> today the administration refuses to take any responsibility. denies the evacuation was chaotic and even calls it a success. >> when our leaders call this evacuation a success. it is like a knife in the hearts. they have a hard time of the administration calls us withdrawal a success do you still believe it was a success? >> who believes a correct policy choice. >> wasn't a success question because again i would never want to quibble with the family member who has suffered such an enormous tragedy big rex's grieving parents now just want an apology and department leaders to resign. but have little hope that will ever happen. >> my son needed a commander-in-chief who cared solely about his light and said his commander-in-chief chose to use him as a pawn. stay tuned pentagon we found they make sure we had done some things better. we pressed and pressed and pressed it they just will not admit anything wrong here. no mistakes are made. chair of the house foreign affairs committee michael mccaul welcome back to fox ne "fox news sunday" but we talk with them i want to put the 13 service members are names, their faces so that we do not forget just two years out from this and been disrespected, disregarded of the two-year anniversary for documents all kinds of things. our view company will get answers for these humans and all-americans? >> do not rest until we do get answers and in accountability what happened how this goes wrong? we lost 13 we had the testimony of tyler andrew vargas who said i had the suicide bomber semi- sites but was not given permission to engage in. 10713 service men and women. and shannon we have just reported today with his book kabul u.s. intelligence at isis k knowing they were plotting to take out abby gate on the very same day it was taken down when the suicide bomber went off, they asked the taliban to go in our u.s. military. the taliban denied u.s. intelligence requested an airstrike, guess what the airstrike was denied. was denied to go and take out the 13 service men and women entered the store gets worse by the day. i will not rest until we get to the bottom of it. shannon: chairman who would've known about what you're telling us. the first time i'm hearing this level of detail the intel that was had in the order that was denied. would who would've had that information? who would've made that call? >> is a general on the ground mr. donahue, will be general mckenzie in charge of sitcom and the operation. itverticals all theway up. all the way up to general milley and his decision-making on the secretary of defense. we have been denied access to these witnesses. we are prepared to go forward with subpoenas to get to the bottom. these goldstar families that you just show deserve the truth as to what happened. to make sure this never happens again. this was not a clean operation but this was not a successful evacuation by any stretch of the imagination. in my judgment that is the worst mistake of all also put them in charge and not our u.s. military, to evacuate u.s. citizens and our partners that are so brightly with us. shannon: so many were left behind still are two years later pretty want to ask about this. there is a new report out from the inspector general overseeing afghanistan reconstruction. it has this headline from their board that had to buy administration has given $2.35 billion to taliban -controlled afghanistan. what you tell american taxpayers about their dollars flowing to that group as you said, that was critical in and what happened t abby gate? and now it truly is disrespectful is the best way i can say from girls, th the u.s.x dollars. >> i am prepared and my position to put a hole on this funding. until we get assurances it's not going right into the hands of the taliban. that by the way our oppressing women. they cannot go out of their homes. they cannot get educated. women cannot be hired by ngo, these charitable organizations in afghanistan. we are paying the money the u.s. taxpayers are funding this. we need some assurance this is going to go to the right hand is going to help the women in afghanistan. at the taliban cannot assure us of that we need to be prepared to cut that funding off as a stick rather than giving them a carrot. shannon: it brings up another item i want to ask about which is this deal is apparently coming together to free americans are being held wrongfully and i wrong. it would rip $6 billion in frozen assets for the iranians to use my believer really see our running prisoners as well. we are told their strict guard rails on that monday that iran will now get access too. here is democrat and veteran one of your colleagues congressman. >> this money will still sit in a bank account, they will only have the authority to release it so basically what would happen is that iran will say we want to buy $10 million with of grain, carter will write the check for that. themselves the grain will go to ironic progress administration says they will have transparency about where the money goes are you confident of that? >> look reagan said trust but verify. i have to use the word naïveté. these are like accounts in south korea frozen, assets going to switzerland, to d doha, carter o then go into ironic. the idea the ayatollahs not going to have any control over this money -- medically or talk about $6 billion. 6 billion under obama it was 400 million of cash and airplanes that went into iran. i went to get these americans tell more than anybody. one is a critical asset. i agree with that we have to go in eyes wide open. $6 billion is going to go into ironic and prop up their proxy or terror operations and their nuclear bomb aspirations. they are starting to talk about the jcpoa all over again. which in my judgment lien sonic course to a nuclear bomb. i think we are going back to the mistakes of the past. and finally, get this our special envoy to our iran to negotiate that jcpoa is under investigation for mishandling classified information. he has the most sensitive information as the top negotiator to our ir iran into e ayatollahs now under investigation for mishandling classified information, very troubling story. shannon: i have so much more to ask about the german we got to leave their second bringing your colic we always appreciate that's our time circle back soon. >> thanks shannon thanks for having me. >> joining is now washington state democrat adam smith ranking member of the house armed services committee. welcome back, good to see again sserpico asked her to see shanna thanks. i want to start the iran deal there again but you heard the chairman just talking about, i've been told there's guardrails on this money $6 billion. this is what iran's ministry off foreign affairs said friday. warning us they still have controlled these people they are still in custody and adding this, the decision how to utilize the unfrozen resources and financial assets lies with the islamic republic of iran telegraphing they plan to do with a plan to do with the money, money is fungible. a lot of this revokes her people he heard the chairman reference of the $40 million in cash that was enfolded by 1.71.3 additional billion dollars in cash that went in a prisoner swap back in 2015 under president obama. some of the people are trying to get out. they were kidnapped or wrongfully imprisoned since we paid that money. do you believe the iranians can change their behavior? lectures a fundamental misunderstanding about what is going on here. the money going from korea to iran is money from oil that iran sold to korea. korea did not pay for that because the sanctions that were imposed on the trump administration. there is about half dozen countries in that situation in italy, india, few others. all of those other countries under the trump administration have already given iran that money with no strings attached under a special payment system that was set up under the trump administration. south korea did not pay that money for complicated reasons. so many of this kind has already been transferred this is money to pay for oil that was given to south korea. this is not some sort of frozen asset situation. this type of money has already been transferred. second the deal is not been finalized. qatar will control the money. so whatever iran has to say about it, i will be controlled by qatar not by a run. that aspect of it makes sense for windows to this prisoner swap looks like and finalize the deal. but there's a lot more detail here that's not being understood. the trump administration transferred billions of dollars from these other countries back to iran with no strings attached and i do not hear anybody talking about that. shannon: the current sinner given them $6 billion and they will say can be for medicine, human trait needs we know money is fungible there are real concerns this amounts to an exorbitant ransom payment critics would say. >> again it's not as i just said, where were those real concerns are in the trump administration went money for a bunch of other countries been transferred to iran, no strings attached no prisoners returned. it does not seemed like a legitimate complaint based on the facts of the situation. shannon: people are complaining now they did not complain them very fair question for them let's talk about this osaka but critics say this is putting a bounty on american said they include former secretary of state mike pompeo felt a lot of those discussions. >> fundamental misunderstanding of what this money is. it is not a bounty because we are not paying the money. it is iran's money that was sitting in south korea. shannon: with sanctions but let's play the secretary let you respond. cook so syncretistic we had denied them wealth, they were down to just a little bit of money to buy the ministration came in and upended all that the iranians would not be flush and their terror campaign were successful. shannon: this is a country that chanted death to america. it's understandable that that's completely untrue printer secretary pompeo these other countries i'm aware of italy and india there were a few others i've not found, money was transferred from them same situation where iran had sold stuff to these countries, sanctions kicked in, money had not been paid. under secretary pompeo that money was transferred from those countries to iran. no strings attached. until it is not an bounty and that is factually incorrect was secretary pompeo was saying. shannon: let's turn to afghanistan were coming up on the second year anniversary of the chaotic withdrawal there. the service members again we like to remind people of their names, their faces and their families that you heard from this week. special inspecto inspector geneo outlined in his new report this. despite tell them promises made since gaining power in august 2021 to be more inclusive counterterrorism, respect human rights and not pose a security threat to the region, the un says a until ben shows no signf bending to pressure for reform or compromise. their unchecked by any meaningful political opposition. so ask the same question i asked the chairman what you say to american taxpayers about us giving aliens of dollars to the organization? >> that kelvin is awful terrible horrible we don't have any other expectation than that. i would have to look at that specific report i know there were a lot of again frozen assets that we had in control that were actually afghan money. i'm not sure about the actual u.s. taxpayer money going in print i'm extraordinarily reluctant to send that money there is one caveat to that afghanistan is also in humanitarian disaster right now. people are starving to death up or they cannot get access to healthcare we are getting a lot of pressure internationally, what can the international community do to stop at humanitarian disaster and i suppose one answer is you got the government you've got got to tell been leading you this is where you are at, we cannot help. but it is such a huge humanitarian disaster i would say it's worth at least looking at options even though i do not think there any particular good options in the situation. shannon: is in direct quickly went just about growing the white house is asking for another round of supplemental funding. as new polling enough they do not want to see anymore appropriations of money going to ukraine. this particular appropriations request the supplemental side of also with domestic emergency relief funding and also some funding for the border. senator marco rubio said this president biden is holding americans hostage by time critical domestic disaster relief to foreign and military aid he calls it cynical political manipulation do you think the two should be tied together? >> it is an initial statement offer up with the bite administration thanks we should fund it. we will see how that plays out going forward. the polling data i have seen by the way as well over 60% of people still think we should be doing everything we can to help the ukrainian people. russia has engaged in a brutal invasion of ukraine. you can see the pictures of how they are destroying cities, killing civilians. i think defending ukraine is something that is in our interest in overwhelming majority of american people seem to agree with that. as far as the other pieces are concerned, every supplemental i've ever dealt with in my 27 years in congress has been tied with one thing to another. this is an open negotiation will see i think their critical needs. wwe'll see of the final package looks like. but i want to make it clear i still support ukraine i think it's a bipartisan people i wish you would've asked congressman mccaul' this que's question inso grew through this something we should be supporting. he has been incredibly strong supporter in ukraine. as has chairman mike rogers who is the chairman of my committee on armed services. shannon: prevented many of the hotspots are piddling around the world seen firsthand the appreciation or expertise with us congressman. >> thank you shannon appreciate it. shannon: coming up or for to governor desantis and i were taking aim at his biggest rival head of the first republic and primary debates. but former present donald trump had his own plans up his sleeve we will bring in the sunday pound to discuss a competing antics at the iowa state fair, next. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv shannon: supported governor desantis said that a state fair. saturday he was referencing former president trump's decision to bring a congressional delegation from desantis home state of florida with him to des moines. it is time now for the sending group, juliet manchester nesson foot or 40 for the hill. former special assistant for national security president george w. bush michael allen. writer for forbes richard fowler and katie pavlich editor at townhall.com. good to see all of you. the iowa state there is a thing, it is happening. juliet would you make of the two entourages that were competing there yesterday among the fried foods? what's what it tells you is desantis is always a trying to put everything into iowa trumpet sort of trying to cut into that. i am not saying trump necessary has a chance of losing iowa at this point. but desantis team feels very confident and iowa there is a "new york times" college poll came out a few weeks ago naturally it shows trump with the lead in the 50s. however when it comes to iowa his lead is in the 40s and desantis lead is a few points up. so they feel confident trump is very much trying to nudge desantis or maybe a jab at desantis in a way by bringing that florida -- make the numbers of the florida congressional delegation is very notable this week steve days endorsed ron desantis he is a conservative commentator radio host in iowa. his team very much make a big deal about that. but the question is what happens after iowa for ron desantis? how does he compete in new hampshire and south carolina? we'll have to see but for now it's all eggs in the iowa basket. shannon: how big is if you score the first win? it is not served as a guarantee to become the eventual nominee or president to win there and i would for the gop. but there's a psychological aspect to scoring an early win in one of the states for quick boston went on to be the public nominee and won the presidency. for ron desantis, people in iowa, unlike the rest of maybe the gop base, our shoppers they are willing to change their vote they're willing to look at other candidates. ron desantis is taken advantage of that by being there, during the 99 county tour. the full grassley as they call it. he sat down i was governor she is doing these affairs side chats we've seen with all the candidates. president donald trump a little did a fly flyover flew in the ry yesterday and flew out but he may not see iowa as a necessary win he did not win it last time he's focus on other things, other states. certainly ron desantis has an opening or shading off some of the voters in a place or people are willing to look at the candidates and make a different choice. shannon: i want to look at the other side of the ticket. with the appointment special counsel for hunter bided in the fact he's a plea deal looks like it's going away and he may have to go to trial. the ap politico, all of them reporting this is going to be an issue for the biting campaign. while such an editorial board said this but president biden will have the excuse of the investigation to refuse to answer questions about the biden family business during the campaign the press corps may give him that pass. mr. garland his belly popped his department into the 2024 presidential campaign. michael, it's a headache no reelection campaign needs. >> i will take what the journal says at face value but nonetheless if i am a house republican if i'm looking at this politically i would do a little dance here. we have more pressure on the biden family to answer for all of hunter's activities in all of the vice president biden's activities when he worked for president obama. for me, this brings up more into the mainstream and allows more pressure to go onto the biden family. i get that which the house republicans wish it was a different special counsel. nonetheless this is political pressure and vindication for their efforts thus far. shannon: is not just republicans who might be taking notice of this and the impact because the there are democrats that potentially selling the may be sorry imprisoned biden bird "new york times" reports this representative dean phillips of minnesota democrat called for someone in the party to challenge biden said the special counsel news is my entire rationale for urging a biden alternative he says it has gone from a distraction and ridiculous two oh well maybe something is there. and by the way he is someone who has been courted potentially by donor to jump into this race. does this mean may be the president does not have a clear walk to the nomination? >> look i think the president has a good chance of what in the nomination because there aren't any contenders in the field right now p. he contenders gathering much steam. with that being said you have to decouple the tube or to think of a talk to folks in the biden white house it would say running a campaign they will also tell you while the president loves his son, son is a private citizen essential be able to do whatever his son wants to do. his son is not above the law i don't good news in a special counsel announcement you've not heard while people talk about is this once a special counsel is over they will issue a report is very likely american garlic make that report public to the american people. the facts and report are demonstrably different than what we see on capitol hill we've heard house and senate republicans talking about, this creates a big problem for them. since 2018 they have been saying there is a bribery here, there's wrongdoing here, if that does not work out after a five-year justice department investigation by trump appointed attorney, that speaks to big problem to them pick up several doubt the special counsel will be done this report before the election. but "stranger things" have happened and do every day right now in washington in the meantime were watching georgia ssea with a president trump a potential invasion face another indictment there. near time supporting this if mrn a federal prosecution he could theoretically pardon himself if you were reelected president. but presidents do not hold such weight in states matters. moreover george a lot makes pardons possible only five years after the completion of a sentence getting a sentence requires a state panel. katy, a lot of people think the state issues are more fraught for former president trump. >> it also becomes politically a resource management problem for the president so politically it is help president donald trump in the primary. but he has had to spend tens of millions of campaign dollars in fighting these indictments federally and at the state level at the state level and it is a problem for him if he cannot part himself if he were to be convicted we are far off from that. what a grand jury returned indictments 12 out of 20 people doing it is not beyond a reasonable doubt the district attorney in georgia is very confident that she has the work done she will get to indictments she thanks she can then go improve. it is to be seen. we have a lot of these things come out against president trump in the past federally and at the state level and they have fallen apart. shannon: and a grand jury to a real you have opposing arguments and evidence of the opposition there innocent until proven otherwise in this country. meanwhile senator joe manchin is making news again. he was asked on a radio show this week whether he would consider leaving the party and becoming independent, here's what he said. >> i would think very seriously about that. i've been thinking about that for quite some time i have not made any decisions whatsoever of any of my particle direction. >> richard i've heard about a angstrom democrats who do not want to see this man turn independent see him mount a third-party challenge under no labels. grix i don't think there's only a third party challenge i will say i do think if you look at the map this electoral map which is where this matters joe manchin has a really tough reelection coming up. this idea of him posturing in this moment speaks to the fact west virginia is a red state and i have to win in my state he's going to postures going to said do not like the president is going to say the president's terrible. that will hopefully garner him enough votes to possibly win reelection. i do not see him mounting a third-party campaign label said they do not to be a spoiler and the selection progress and very quick. >> if he does run that's bad news for president biden. there is low enthusiasm for the president. i think it takes out from this vote. shannon: he got to leave their paneling seal next week. a reminder we are little more than a week away for the first 24 republican primary debates in milwaukee bret baier and martha mccalla will moderate coverage begins august 23, 9:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel. coming up the most awarded gospel artist of all time sits down with us to talk about her face, her powerful music why she is so passionate about the next generation. ♪ which hotel? 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[laughter] >>. shannon: we are in the mentees. those who were before me, they went through a lot of hardship. when we look in the scriptures look at the disciples and the apostles, what they went through so that we could have the faith. i can at least go through a little rejection. 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