creator, i want to thank jesus christ and the holy spirit and father god, may you see fit to bless our country so we may honor and glorify your name and thank congressman issa for listening to the story and we are deeply thankful to you and your staff and the city of escondido. one of donald trump's campaign promises was to end the war in afghanistan. he recognized the corruption of the government and the security forces. a colonel said i was disgusted knowing that the afghan military commanders were creating ghost soldiers so they could take their pay, selling their soldiers food, fuel and ammunition on the black market as part of what had become the afghan government. i'm sure that the president could see that the puppet government would not be able to assure the one thing that he wanted, american soldiers to stop being killed. so he negotiated with the taliban the dohar agreement, categorized as a good deal and for 18 months no american casualties. the house of foreign affairs, congressman crow asked of colonel kalinda, after that agreement was signed did the taliban stop attacking american soldiers, yes. and the last nine months from the trump administration any cause of the loss to the 13 soldiers lives, he stated not during the trump administration and ample time in the biden administration to change the course that led to the august 26th attack. when congressman crow asked colonel seth kermidge if they had not left in august of 2021, had the taliban resumed combat operations against the u.s. soldiers, he said, i quote, i believe if we had not pulled out by that date they would have had a hard time once the winter started to be able to actually execute that, which would have given afghan government the time and the space to get their feet set to fight back. and also spoke of the three strategic objectives laid out by the biden administration, in which he said we were not successful and selective intelligence blindness and administration's controlled how we withdrew and when we withdrew. and congressman mccall stated i was there, we were there for the briefings from state, dod and the ic and for months president biden ignored warning from his own generals and intelligence community, and bipartisan members of congress about what happened on the ground. he classified the president as having "a blind eye." the and during the first two months of president biden's administration he was too busy reversing as many trump policies, he neglected to meet the april deadline. april 14th, president biden said he has negotiated an extension and ending the 20 year war in afghanistan to be completed by september 11th. and as he pointed out and as pointed out by congressman mast, jen psaki stated "the president is the ultimate decision maker, that he was the decision maker who chose to draw the date of september 11th. he was the decision maker who pulled out the people with the guns out before the people with the guns -- before the people with the -- before the people without the guns. the decision maker who collapsed the operations to the airport, it was joe biden, the ultimate decision maker and that none of these decisions were in the dohar agreement." congressman waltz asked kermidge, did president biden ignore the advice of three four star general, he replied yes. interviews he prided himself being tough on generals and afghanistan had a diplomatic solution, not a military solution, and this explains why the state chose that airport instead of bagram. why they left only 113 men. colonel sergeant major said the defensiveability of bagram was exponentially greater, and that 2,000 soldiers could completely man bagram and 2500 soldiers were left in country when president trump left office. he understood that some of the embassy felt the taliban would not advance and that neo would not be necessary. june 14th given of the order to close bagram by july 4, 2021, and the airport was open to the embassy four miles away. all talks of conducting neo ceased, against the law. smith said he closed bagram on july 2nd and the taliban controlled 50% of afghanistan with 113 american soldiers left in country, from tenth mountain division. congressman waltz stated not a single official has resigned, relieved, court-martialed or laterally transferred. my life and that of my family's has been on pause since the early morning of august 26, 2021. the difference between the minutes of my life before that day and the minutes that pass after that day are contrasted drastically. the smells of the season, a certain song, an image, a picture, brings back the image and the images and the feelings. the pain and anxiety. the thing that upsets me most is that he exploded the most precious thing a child learns from his parent, trust. kareem enlisted and stood on the wall because he associated his government and the likeness of his parents, and the protection and love he witnessed growing up he associated and compared to his government. my son needed a commander in chief who cared solely about his life, a commander in chief who sent a picture to the taliban leaders' house and asked him why do you send me a picture my house, you have to figure that out, abdul. instead chose to use him as a pawn to meet him september 11th deadline and get the optics he wanted and never offered the sacrifice for his picture. something i like to do with kareem. when he would leave to go -- sorry. when he would leave to go back to camp pendleton tell me good-bye, i love you. i would be on the other end of the house, far away, and i would wait to hear the door creak because of the hinge, the front door, and as soon as i heard that i would yell as loud as i could his name, kareem! and this was to pay homage to every father/son movie ever made, you know, i would yell and in his little voice yeah. and i would be like avenge me! [laughter] you know, and i would come and look at him and he would have the biggest smile, and now all i hear is him and his soft avenge me. thank you. [applause] >> good morning, my name is cheryl, mother of lance corporate dylan, i want to thank congressman issa and the dignitaries so i may have the opportunity to speak publicly the first time since the botched and chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan, took the life of my son and 12 other service members, 170 afghan civilians and left hundreds wounded. i am seeking answers to my many questions that have gone unanswered since august 26, 2021. dylan was on his first appointment to jordan when the withdrawal from afghanistan began, turned into an evacuation of afghan allies and civilians. when he and his batallion were redirected to assist in the process. my son was 20 years old. i saw two uniform marines awaiting my arrival to inform me my son had been identified as one of the 13 service members that had been killed at abbey gate. freedom sentinel also known as operation enduring freedom. told to pack an overnight bag and be ready to go to delaware for a dignified transfer to receive my son's body. myself and the other 13 were awaiting for the plane arrival to the united states. when joe biden, our elected president entered the room, when he an approached me, his words, my wife jill and i know how you feel. we lost our son as well and brought him home in a flag-draped coffin. my heart started beaten, and knowing he died from cancer and they were by his side and wondering how someone could honestly -- sorry -- be so heartless to say he knew how i felt a little over 24 hours after learning of my son's death. after this encounter i have never had any personal correspondence, nor has my son been honored or name spoken by this commander in chief. or his administration. pt on what i feel is because of their failures and poor planning to exit our troops from afghanistan. i returned home and the following days i started to receive phone calls from dylan's commanding officers, which leads me to a conversation i had stated, i had that stated, ma'am, we decided to hold abbey gate open one more hour in hopes to save a few more lives, knowing the imminent attack was approaching the gate. that statement is engrained inside my brain knowing that they had closed the gate, my son would be alive today. the i have wondered who gave that order to hold that gate open for one more hour, and for whom. within the following weeks dylan's batallion began returning to camp pendleton, marines had the opportunity to reach out to the families. i was very fortunate i lived close enough to the base that several of the marines came to visit me and began telling me their stories. every story being told could ins sided that abbey was ambushed and complex attack, not just a single suicide bombing, reported on news outlets. i wondered if my son's remains were not going to be intact, to learning he had been suffered injuries and his body was viewable. whatever answer of contract that may have brought me, i knew i would be able to see my son one last time. i laid dylan to rest witnessing thousands of people across the country, offering condolences and support and again, nothing was brought forth from anyone in our current administration. the anger i held inside on how our 13 kids were not being recognized nationally was becoming prominent. how could so many people pay their respects but nothing at all from the president of the united states on something he had conducted. my social media account started receiving little to no attention and my son's name seemed to be slowly not being recognized. i knew then i was being targeted and shut down publicly by media outlets. i could hardly search anything that had to do with afghanistan when just a month ago our situation was everywhere. how could a worldwide event quoted the largest evacuation in american history just disappear. when failures are made those involved in the failures want it to be forgotten and that's what i felt was happening by the current leadership. those marines who had poured their hearts out to me and by my side grieving over their experiences, their stories, were beginning to change. i knew they were being told they could not speak about their experiences any longer. on january 19, 2022, a colonel and his jag briefed me on the after action report of what was supposed to be the truth and facts of what happened at abbey gate. during this brief it was explained to me where my son's location had been during the time of the attack and also his wounds in accordance with his autopsy report. that is when i personally confirmed to myself that everything, even the way my son died, was being covered up. i was being given false information. describing dylan's wounds, it was tended toward a right handed person. my son's trait was left-handed. how could my son obtain wounds on the opposite side of his body he was illustrating he couldn't respond, leaving the conversation to the jag to change the subject. they continued to showing me drone footage they claimed had a three-minute unexplainable lapse. this colonel told me ma'am, you wouldn't want to see it anyways. i had already seen my son's lifeless body and laid him to rest. who was this colonel. to make a decision what i was capable of watching. afghanistan was no longer being spoken about and nothing seemed to be available anymore while i was continuing my search for answers. i was starting to feel defeated as to not being able to find anything. i felt i needed to find some kind of proof that would show that the people, these marines, were not lying about their stories and possibly bring some acknowledgment. days turned into weeks, weeks turned into a couple of months, as the one-year mark approached i knew in my heart that my son and our 13 were not going to be honored or spoken more than just a small new community that we were circulating in. but in my head i kept thinking maybe, just maybe their names would be spoken on national tv or even just anything to honor their sacrifices and people would remember them. as the mother of two marines i hold a different perspective of honor. it wouldn't have taken much effort to say their names and hold a moment of silence on this date. i was not surprised one bit when nothing was said to them. everybody -- every day i just hoped and prayed that people wouldn't forget the withdrawal that u.s. troops spend 20 years defending and protecting the afghan civilians. i was fighting an endless battle without being heard. from 0 honor, or respect from our current administration, being publicly removed to lies and cover-ups over facts and truths that were -- that -- sorry -- that there was 0 accountability and no real evidence provided or any honest information was being given to me. months following a couple of veteran marines contacted me asking if i knew about the upcoming congressional hearings. that would start to take place. i started to think is this true? maybe we can -- we are able to start getting answers to some of my questions on my son's death? i am extremely grateful to those marines telling their stories, which have all been everything i had been told from the very beginning. i feel with our combined efforts and our commitment to exposing what was really happening in afghanistan maybe i can finally get some truths about my son's death and the american people would see the failures that actually occurred. i feel i deserve real answers, real truths, real facts, and someone to be accountable for the failures that occurred that took my son's life. i am here now with those hopes, with those same hopes that you are going to stand by my side and help me get those truths and answers i've been looking for for almost two years. the impact of tragedy is painful, the impact of losing your child in a manner that could have been prevented and led people who seem to not have any sympathy for human lives is anger, frustration, disappointment, mental stress, physical pain, and more than just a broken heart that cannot be fixed. i hope one day as a mother i can understand why my son was chosen to leave this earth. behind every heart is a hero. behind every hero is a story. behind every story reveals what they endured for you, for me, and for all mankind. thank you for allowing me to share just a glimpse of what i have been holding inside my heart since that day of august 26, 2021, as the day i lost my son, lance corporal dillon merola. legends live forever and their stories will always be told. [applause] >> hi, guys, i'm shaking already. good morning, everyone. i'm going to thank congressman and all of you for being here for opening this place for us to talk and express ourself and our broken hearts to you and to our community. my name is coral, i am the mother of corporal sanchez right there. i always called him my green-eyed boy, wear spanish, mexicans, but he has green eyes. don't ask me where, i don't know. they said it was my grandma, i didn't meet my grandma, so -- funny story, my green-eyed boy. let's just start. 711 days ago since i received a knock on my door in the middle of the night. 711 days of a broken heart trying to glue my family together learning how to survive our new life. first we start minute by minute. then we learn how to lead day-by-day. then month-by-month, and i'll tell you something, it hasn't been easy. we struggle a lot. all this time i ask myself what if i didn't sign those papers to let him go at the age of 17? why did i not hug him longer the last day i saw him? the last time i spoke with him, what's on the phone, and august 23rd. i was fighting with him. fighting for him to help and save more innocent women and children. why instead of pushing him to help save people i did not tell him that i loved him, and i was so proud of him. why did i didn't make sure he knows how much i love him. the truth is, i raised a loving protector and caring human being. the kind of person that will give his life for the ones he love. and that is something that i am really proud of. my son loved this country as much as he loved his family. i expected the government to love my son as much as i do, to protect him, just like i protect him for the first 17 years of his life. unfortunately that didn't happen. they failed to protect not just my son, but 12 of his brothers and sisters that day. they failed to protect countless afghans who died that day too. the commander in chief failed on the oath he took when he entered this country's executive system to protect our country from foreign and domestic enemies. he failed everybody. everyone ask me, what can i do? what can i do for your family? every single person, every single people that i don't even remember faces, they are like what can we do for you? here's my card, here's my number, tell me what you want me to do. i never have an answer for that. but today i can tell you i want answers, i want the truth. i want to go to sleep knowing my son did not die in vain. i want to know that this failure will not repeat itself again. 22 service members taking their own lives every day, how many more lives will we lose after this catastrophic equation. last time i knew, there were seven service members from that day in kabul that took their own life. and who cares, nobody cares, nothing is public. nobody knows. how many more need to struggle because they cannot talk, they got told whatever you see, whatever you think is so, that didn't happen. they cannot even talk to us. and that is a shame. how many more parents have to go through this nightmare if we don't do anything with this administration? we need to get to the bottom of this and find out the root of that failure. we need to implement laws to protect our marine soldiers and sailors. i am tired of hearing people tell me what can i do. the time to act is now. make sure history does not repeat itself. the last day i see my son was march of 2021. he was leaving for his deployment in the jordan and i remember like it was yesterday. standing outside the door and he hugged me and he said mom, if i don't come back, and i said you are going to come back. and then he said no, mom, if i don't come back, i want you to keep telling my story. and you know what, his story did not end on august 26, 2021. i will fight until my last breath to get to the truth. i promise this to my kid and i will do it. thank you. [applause] >> my name is alicia lopez. and i'm the proud mother of united states marine corps corporal hunter lopez. i would first like to start off by speaking of my son. hunter has been described as a marine's marine. he knew he had to be prepared physically, mentally, and tactically. he invested countless hours working out, reading military history, listening to tactical podcasts. he invested hours upon hours at the range on his own time and bought himself the best gear to use. he would not settle for second best. he did all of this without leaving others behind or to fend for themselves. i would venture to say that in addition to service to the country after having trained, lived and known his close marine friends for many years, hunter also dedicated to protecting and looking out for the well-being of his fellow marines. second, i would like to thank everyone who has made this endeavor possible and given all our families a voice. this is an important process for us, for our family, and i believe there is more that needs to be disclosed, not only to the families of the fallen, but to all of the veterans who served in afghanistan and to the american public. to say it's time to move on and there's nothing more to be said as to the planning and the execution of how our country wrapped a two-decade war is an insult to all of us. some may ask why we are just coming forward now and although there's no singular answer reasons include patience, patience for the system to work, the military asked we allow them time to gather information, evidence, time to conduct interviews, and generally find answers to questions my family had. another reason is faith. faith that the right thing would be done and answers to tough questions we had would be answered. some answers were provided. however, as time went on the answers provided were overshadowed by new information and testimony. only speaking more -- only sparking more questions, doubts and concerns. the reality is that items of concern to my family and i perhaps to all of us can be answered by a true count of who made decisions. who did or did not. what advice was provided and why or why not. was it not followed? i have no illusion that anyone would be prosecuted or terminated for ignoring intelligence or making bad decisions, not even for lying to all our gold star families. this outcome is sad but it is what we have to come to expect from a system that would prefer to hold secrets for decades and beyond until someone finally has the decency to unseal classified information that would bring solace to grieving families and answers to so many questions and concerns. it is unfortunately -- i'm sorry, it is unfortunate and really it's sad our system is quick to identify those at fault in far away countries. but yet we are challenged to evaluate ourselves. we shy away from compromising careers of high ranking officials, book deals and future lucrative public speaking engagements. the reality is, its fault to be found in someone -- if fault was to be found in someone who wore fatigues to work instead of a suit they would be on trial long ago. if blame was cast on a young marine who carried a rifle to defend his country and fellow marines, that marine's name would be on the evening news and media camped outside the front of his or her home. the mistakes were made without a doubt. my request is that those mistakes are owned up to, that my family and the other gold star families hear the truth and that we are made aware of who is accountable. we do not want a partial truth or truth told in a book release or when information is declassified 20, 30, or 40 years from now. as americans, we want this truth. as gold star families we deserve the truth. we deserved it two years ago and we definitely deserve it today. i ask that our children are honored, those injured and those that made it home, that they be honored by speaking the truth. staff sergeant taylor hoover, sergeant nick olgy, sergeant pachardo, staff sergeant ryan, corporal page, corporal sanchez, corporal hunter lopez, hospital corpsman max, lance corporate kareem, dylan merola, chance corporal schmidt, lance corporal espinozo, and lance corporal riley. [applause] >> this brings to a close the statements for today of the families of the fallen. i said for today because their story cannot end today. in 1792, george washington impanelled the first congressional investigation of a failed battle. it is not new for there to be military mistakes, it is not new, but it is in fact a tradition that investigations don't end until every question has been answered. even though we spent a little over an hour here today with these families we could have spent 2 or 3 or 4 hours and not heard all the questions they have. the others have told us of things like a bullet found inside their loved one when in fact we were told it was a bomb and they have evidence. others have asked i got my son's phone back, but the sim card containing those pictures, those selfies have been removed, can i have it back. there are many, many questions unasked or unspoken today that have been asked that we will get to the bottom of. so for the families who came so far and said what they said here today, thank you. for those in attendance as witnesses on behalf of all of them, all of us have an obligation to retell their stories, to not let it fade until every question has been answered. that's not one member of congress, that's every american's obligation. so again, you'll hear thank you for your sacrifice. it's not a sacrifice you asked for and may well have been a sacrifice that we could have avoided. but thank you and thank your loved ones and thank every military person who knowingly signs up to go in harm's way knowing that what happened to your children, your loved ones, could happen to them every day. this is not the end, but it is the end for today. we stand adjourned. [applause] >> john: i don't know how anybody could fail to be moved by what we just saw there in escondido, the hearing involving many of the 13 gold star families who were left losing a loved one back on august 26th of 2021. as they told their stories of their loved ones and the loss, and sandra, what they said almost to a person was complete failure on the part of military leadership and the political leadership of this nation to protect their loved ones. that was just heart-wrenching to watch. >> sandra: so important for everyone, every american to hear what we just heard come from that room. god bless every single one of those servicemembers who paid the ultimate sacrifice and lost their lives that day and to those family members forever affected by the decisions made that day. keith kellogg is joining us now, general kellogg, i feel we are all moved by what we just heard and it's so important that we continue to say their names and hear their stories. but the descriptions we heard from family members, some of the parents, like complete chaos, no communications, lack of leadership. taylor hoover's mother at one point saying she feels her son left thinking command cared nothing for him. what was your reaction to what you just heard in the room there, general? >> yeah, sandra, first of all, thanks for having me and thanks for fox for carrying this. i think it's really important for the american people to see what you saw today because what you saw was a raw emotion. this is what i saw when i went up with the president and vice president for the dignified transfers at dover air base, when you walk in there when the remains would come off the aircraft and you would go talk to the families inside the holding area, and they would talk like you heard them today and think of the rawness and how that started with just within hours of their loved ones dying and i used to -- it just, not to just -- it breaks your heart but hits you right in the gut and this is one of those i tell the american people, look, this is why every night you should get down and pray and thank god that we have great men and women who serve in our armed services and we have families willing to give their most precious resource, their sons and daughters to the military, to defend this, to stand on the ramparts and on the barricades and protect us. because it's so important and you heard that today with those families and it was raw emotion and i also heard from them something else, and it was like i want to know what actually happened, and i think it borders and i know this is a pretty strong word, but it kind of borders on the criminal that the president or the secretary of defense, or the chairman of the joint chiefs has not sat down with these families and said to them hey, this is what's happened, this is what we found out. these were the mistakes that were made, and mistakes will be made because when you do have a conflict situation it's a very gray area, you don't know what he is happening a lot of times, but this is the reason we put them in there, and what actually happened on the ground. that hasn't been done and those parents and loved ones, they are owed those answers and the answers not given. i remind the president of the united states, president biden, you are the commander in chief of the united states military and you owe them when they lose their lives for this nation, you owe them to sit down and talk to the parents, the loved ones and explain why this happened and you owe it to the american people to explain how this happened as well. and boy, i'll tell you, and again, i give you great credit for showing that hearing today. it is absolutely raw to hear that and your heart goes out to them and god bless them and just hard to even hear, even three years after the incident. >> john: general, to the point you were just making there, heard it from cheryl rex, so many people paid their respects but nothing from biden. failures, people just want it to be forgotten. she said there has been 0 accountability for what happened from coral, the mother of humberto sanchez, i thought the government would love my son as much as i did, unfortunately that didn't happen. and president biden, she said, failed everybody. and cheryl rex said 0 accountability. there has been 0 accountability for what happened there. everything from putting those marines soldiers and the corpsman in harm's way the way they did, to not pulling the trigger when the sniper had a bead on the suicide bomber. >> yeah, john. look, i will tell you, deeper than that. it's just not accountability, what happened in kabul. no accountability for 20 years in a lost war. explain why there hasn't been accountability, or done after action review, this is a microchasm what we saw for a 20-year effort and for people not to go out, the senior leadership in the military and the government to talk to the families and explain to them what actually happened, that is actually criminal. and i mean, that's the reason why i used to go to the dignified transfers it just broke my heart. what you saw today, like i said a minute ago, that's what happens when you go to the dignified transfers. you let the families talk, you tell them. just open it up. anything i can do. but also have a responsibility to provide them answers, and that's what we try to do. i remember that we would actually give them our cards, business cards and say if you have an issue, you call me, ok. and you call me directly. and that actually happened. there were some that happened, too, kids going into college, giving good recommendations. always good to get a recommendation from the president of the united states when you want to go to college but it's important that happens but it has not happened here and you listen to those parents and the loved ones and the rawness of what they said, it is so true and i think it's unfortunate. and i'm hoping somebody in the pentagon is listening, and somebody in the white house is listening because these parents, these loved ones, they really are owed answers for what the men and women in uniform suffered and sacrificed for the nation. >> amen, and the families are not going to stop, they are going to continue to make their voices heard and demand accountability and answers and we will continue to hear from them. general, thank you very much. >> john: thank you, general. it was sad, moving, it was infuriating at the same time. and darin hoover and kelly barnett, the parents of taylor hoover who you see the picture there, will be joining martha on "the story." they will incredibly moving testimony today in escondido, and martha will hear more in a little while. we will be right back in just a moment. (♪) ♪ you're just like a satellite ♪ (♪) ♪ like a satellite ♪ viasat satellite internet. learn more about our plans at viasat.com let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a facelift. emily used part of her refund to buy... i run a wax museum. let innovation refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. stop waiting. go to innovationrefunds.com you really got the brows. >> sandra: fox news alert, fox has just obtained the 2011 letter from vice president, then vice president biden to archer thanking him for attending the luncheon, of course this is devon archer, thanking him for attending a luncheon. in the letter we learn a lot. chad pergram is live from capitol hill on what exactly is in it. chad. >> it's a pretty short letter, sandra, sent on january 20th of 2011, this of course is when the president was vice president. and i'll read what it says. says "i apologize for not getting a chance to talk to you at the luncheon yesterday, i was having trouble getting away from hosting president hu. i hope i get a chance to see you again soon with hunter. i hope you enjoyed the lunch and thanks for coming." so a pretty short declarative letter but this is what republicans have been talking about, and devon archer from the gop perspective being a lynch pin to this, he was connected with hunter biden and may have been associations with the president and the business dealings of hunter biden, sandra. >> sandra: very interesting stuff. have we been able to garner any congressional response yet, chad, to the discovery of this letter and the obtaining of this letter? >> i just got this a couple minutes ago, this had been talked about, but i just got it right before we came on the air. congress is out of session right now, but you can bet eventually there will be other commentary, especially from republicans. they will see closing the nexus, and the democrats will say far from a smoking gun but so far no reaction. >> sandra: interesting stuff, jim jordan says it's a bombshell letter proving it has connections to hunter's dealings. keep us posted on any developments from that. thank you very much, chad pergram. >> john: something else to pay attention to, a black california doctor says she is fed up with that state's mandatory implicit bias training for physicians, and she is now taking legal action to potentially bring it to an end. dr. marilyn singleton has a new op-ed out on foxnews.com, says the state of california is going backwards and is now enshrining racism a law. dr. marilyn singleton joins me now. great to have you on. i think this is one of the most important stories i have seen in the last while. and you shoot down this new requirement right out of the gate in that foxnews.com op-ed, you write if implicit bias were real, you would think that i would have seen it in 50 years of medical practice. i haven't, neither in how my peers have treated me nor in how they treated patients of different races. i certainly have never seen a white colleague provide worse care to a black patient. you say this policy, doctor, in and of itself is racist. explain. >> indeed. why would patients treat people differently based on race. they practice medicine with the feel of the hippocratic oath, back in the day it said we treat all patients the same whether free or slave. we have our mission, and that's to take good care of all patients. and in medicine, doctors are collegiate, this idea of targeting other physicians based on their race and putting them through struggle sessions and making them feel inadequate, immoral, invirtueous is bizarre. and not just saying one time you take a training in implicit bias, they are mandating every single continuing education course address implicit bias. what does it have to do with so many things in medicine? nothing, and it takes away from the learning time of that specific scientific course you are taking. >> john: if i'm not mistaken, i think it's 50 hours of training every two years. so you do acknowledge in the article, in your op-ed that there are disparities between medical care for white people and for african americans. if not implicit bias, what is driving those disparities? >> well, so much of it is economic, neighborhood, and what's interesting is black people realize it, too. there's a hospital in los angeles that's in a black neighborhood and nobody wants to go there because they don't think they could get good care there. if we had doctors, good doctors who practiced in all hospitals and all neighborhoods, that would be a wonderful thing. that's not how it is now. there's other ways to improve health for people who are not financially able. there's community clinics and they have had great success in black neighborhoods. the barber shop medical care, they take people's blood pressure in the barber shop. the church i had gone to, we had a blood pressure clinic every saturday that correlated with the food bank, so we got the people who needed the care. so, there are ways to target people who don't have the financially means or they live in neighborhoods where they can't drive to specialty care and that's what needs to be addressed, not to target white doctors and tell them that they are racist. >> john: so we have about 50 seconds left here, i have to ask you for a quick answer. the state of california believes the implicit bias training will improve medical care. you argue the opposite in the op-ed, say accusing physicians of implicit bias adds nothing to our ongoing learning and in fact detracts from this critical process. you say this time would be better spent involving disease processes, maybe bedside manner, i don't know. but anything other than this idea that california thinks is valid. >> absolutely. and i think the idea of teaching better bedside manner and communication skills would be good across the board. some people just don't know how to communicate well, but that does not mean that they are bigots and this is the problem. you can't call people bigots and it just takes away the collegiateness of medicine. >> john: i was fascinating reading the op-ed, it's a must-read. foxnews.com. dr. marilyn singleton, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> sandra: as we continue covering the chaos of 20 years of war in afghanistan we are following the future of an orphaned afghan baby who remains unclear in an unusual legal battle. u.s. marine attorney joshua mast and his wife were granted to adopt the child, but now the child is under temporary custody with them. security correspondent jennifer griffin is here at the pentagon and has that story. >> this is a story of an afghan girl who is now four years old and at the center of an emotional adoption case here in the u.s. court documents call her baby doe, her parents and five siblings were killed in a u.s. military raid in september 2019, the baby survived in the rubble of the blast and was rescued by the u.s. army rangers treated in bagram, and reunite by the next of kin, found a cousin and his wife, both educated and in their 20s agreed to raise the child. but a u.s. marine, major mast and his wife saw it as their christian duty to save the child, beginning a complicated court trial, they allege deception saying they were lured to the u.s. and then took the baby from the afghan couple when they arrived at fort picket. after they took her, our tears never stopped, the young afghan woman told the associated press. right now, we are just dead bodies, our hearts are broken. all parties are under a judge's gag order. a new judge reversed the adoption order in major but now the baby is with major mast, their wife and their five children, they want a dna ftest for the family living in texas, and cousins do not always have the same dna. and they say joshua mast continues to be employed by the dod despite breaking numerous laws and improperly using his position to abduct baby doe. they said joshua mast is at camp lejeune and assigned told by a u.s. defense official to administrative duties. >> sandra: thank you for covering that, jennifer griffin at the pentagon. set your dvr, never miss "america reports." thank you so much for joining us. i'm sandra smith. >> john: and i'm john roberts. you are on for neil in an hour's time. we will see you then. and i'll see you again tomorrow. meantime, "the story" with martha starts right now. >> good afternoon everybody. i martha maccallum. it's been almost two years since the u.s. carried out a chaotic and very tragic withdrawal from afghanistan after 20 years of war there. during that period, on aug august 26th, 2021, just hours before the airport would be shut down, people at the abbey gate, desperately trying to leave. during that period, and isis suicide bomber attacked, and he

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