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This is insane. The defendant cant be granted even a few words . The third indictment of donald trump is the one much in the media has been eagerly awaiting because they feel it vindicates their reporting on the 2020 election and that doesnt mean trump will be found guilty not at all but there is a sense that democracy is at stake, that we finally gotten to the heart of the matter. Did the former president break the law and constantly charging the last election was stolen. The crux of the case is not whether trump caused january 6. That be impossible to prove but whether he knowingly lied about the rigged election. The indictment says, donald trump spread lies, the claims were false and the defendant knew they were false but his team says otherwise, and that trump believes what hes been saying. Even though members of his inner circle say they told him he lost and here is what trump said after pleading not guilty. This is a persecution of a political opponent. This was never supposed to happen in america. This is the persecution of the person thats leading by very very substantial numbers, in the republican primary and leading biden by a lot, so if you cant beat him, you persecute him or you prosecute him. Howie my friends at the other channels, you could have spent the next 24 hours challenging what he just said. Actually neck and neck with joe biden. Trump, of course is the front runner for the gop nomination and much as the media dont like the idea, could well win back the white house. Howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. Ahead well look at the testimony of Hunter Bidens ex Business Partner, Behind Closed Doors, about the help he got from hunters father. The pundits hit the airwaves with strikingly different takes on the latest trump indictment. The attack on our nations capitol on january 6, 2021 was an unprecedented assault on a seat of american democracy. Its described in the indictment , it was fueled by lies. And this is the first time that the First Amendment has been criminalized. Its the first time that a sitting president is attacking a political opponent on First Amendment grounds and basically making a criminal to state your position. He was pushing it as far as he could and maybe he pushed it a little too far, but should he die in prison for that . I dont think the Biden Administration realizes what its done here. Somebody finally stood up to him today and said you know what you need fifth grade class knows that you cant cheat and lie and bully and use violence to get your way. Ultimately it comes down to he knew that he had lost because he was told by a bunch of people , youve lost, mr. President , but he kept repeating the lie. These people that have all, all testified against donald trump, these people that stood up to his lies, to his attempt to overturn democracy, they were doing it not just against his interest. They were doing it against their own best interest. If the new standard is going to be any time a elected official lies about something, by the judgment of a prosecutor, and takes action on that, are they guilty of a conspiracy . Howie joining us now to analyze the coverage robbie suav e, Senior Editor at Reason Magazine and laura fink , robbie put aside the deflections and the rhetoric for just a moment. Is this a strong indictment of donald trump when it comes to his alleged efforts to overturn the election . I think its somewhere in the middle ground. Obviously, its spelling out a lot of bad conduct on his part, but it is going to come down to this fundamental question and i wouldnt want to be in the position of the prosecutor having to prove that donald trump actually didnt think he won the election. Ive heard everything hes had to say for years. He still says he won that election. Howie yes he does. That has to do with the efforts he took. Were not painting over the things he did that were bad but when you read that indictment its a lot of he said , he tweeted. Its wordbased and i dont think its wrong to be concerned about criminalizing political expression that was bad, that he could have been punished for by voters for and next time could be too. They impeached him over it but is it a criminal conspiracy . I think its going to be a little bit harder to prove than they say so. Howie i certainly agree on harder to prove. Laura, the media are loving this indictment because it matches what they have been reporting the last two and a half years but having a hard time understanding how, in light of these and other charges, donald trump is running neck and neck with joe biden. Well, thats clearly because the information has yet to sink in. The indictment was released howie yet to sink in . Weve been covering it 25 hours a day. Well, and also, i would say that conservative media has acted as a Rapid Response team for trump, advancing his arguments, demonizing the Justice Department and i think Jesse Watters called them political war crimes and atrocity so you see that there is this dual here having an impact but any time you look at the polls you have to wait for that information not to sink in not just for donald trump but for anyone. This truly is really about the characterization and i would say to my colleague that this is also about actions. This isnt just about words but i think successfully, donald trump has framed it in the media even the New York Times calling it a clash of lies versus free speech, but ultimately, this , the actions will be measured. His calls to electors. His huddling and conference rooms, his pressure on elected officials and ultimately that fate full conversation with mike pence in pressuring him to obstruct what was going on at the capitol, the basic certification of the election. You have your day in court. You do not get to overturn an election by force. Howie boy whats interesting, robbie, on this question of words versus action, is that john lauro, on all five sunday shows today, trumps Attorney Says oh, he didnt direct mike pence to try to stop the election. I mean, he said you could be a hero, instead youre a coward. I dont know. It sounded pretty close to a Pressure Campaign to me. Well, this is something eventually a jury will have to decide. I mean, with respect to what we just heard, i mean it is calls to people, huddling in rooms. That is speech. Now obviously you dont have the right, you can commit a crime and theres a Speech Component and still a crime. Im not naive about that. But is the pressure on State Officials finding votes that are out there that my advisors have given bad advice and im wrong but i think those votes are out there then that doesnt look like howie what about the people in his inner circle and there are a number who have said publicly he lost the election . Sure a lot of people didnt, hes hearing a lot of things but he clearly chose to believe the ones who told him he had actually won and you can fault him for that but can you put him in prison for it . Howie thats a question as you say for a trial and well see when the trial takes place. Laura, in a truth social post trump said he compared his situation to that of nazi germany and also, theres this post thats gotten a lot of attention lets put it up. If you go after me, im coming after you. And that is has prompted the office to require not to require, excuse me, to request from the judge protective order. Trump asked for more time. His order is, i should say his response is due tomorrow so what do you make about these various typical trump outbursts but maybe this time there are consequences . Well i think for the first time hes being treated like a criminal defendant which he currently is, and you can not have, i think that the judge will constantly have to balance his Free Speech Rights in terms of being a political candidate, but also, the right of these witnesses to not feel pressured. The right of a trial to proceed effectively and according to the rule of law, and so the judge will no doubt be weighing in on this but i think his ability to use the bully pulpit to pressure witnesses, to leak details of the case, all of this normal defendant be restrained from doing, well see if there are two standards in this instance, but this is a tough case to try for any judge. Howie yeah, no question about it and one more from trump. But soon in 2024 it will be our turn, maga, so a lot of people thinks hes forecasting revenge but thats a long way off. Robbie is the coverage of this indictment overall fair . Msnbc, and i might have missed one or two, seems like every host, every pundit, everybody whose ever tried a case, was hailing this indictment and bash Ing Trump And Plus will be before a d. C. Jury which isnt going to be fair oracle to him. Theres a lot of bias in the Mainstream Media not just in terms of the political santa fe but the bias in favor of prosecutors in general. Cnn, everybody they bring on is a gman, somebody who brought cases or investigated so of course they are always going to say howie they must want x defense attorney. Where are they . Put them on and that skews the coverage because the American People deserve to know hes going to have a defense. He is entitled to a defense. Theres still due process and just because there are tons of people who hate him on tv and cnn and msnbc, saying this case is airtight you arent hearing The Other Side yet. Howie i think thats true. Laura is the concept to balance itself outdated because is the media going to cover this particular one. I know there are other ones that may be an indictment in the next couple weeks from the atlanta da , but its virtual ly around the clock eating up virtually all the oxygen and if people are getting an antitrump view and i nowhere you stand politically. Sounds like it makes it harder to get a fair trial. Well, it no doubt. The polarization both of impacts the institutions and the course of justice in this country, but i think what you see in the face of all of this , jack smith is trying to run a straight up and down case, and in terms of the media, you know, i saw as i was watching msnbc and cnn, a lot of talk about the logistics, a lot of talk about the legal theories, a lot of talk about the actual indictments, what they meant and what would take to prove them false or true. You know, in the right, i really saw more defense of trump, less information about what was in the context and the content of the document and more about trumps defenses. So obviously, thats predictable but i thought it would start especially on the day that the indictment was released. Usually that comes a little bit after. The conservative media was ready with their arguments and to carry water on this one and it was hard if youre a viewer to even understand the case that jack smith was making because it was dismissed before it was even relayed. Howie well i would just say it depends on the show, the channel , not everybody has the same Point Of View and we were all waiting and people were reading this thing on the air to see what jack smith had or what he chose to put in the indictment. Just briefly, see if i can get you both in here. John lauro surprised evidence by saying yes there should be cameras in the courtroom. Its extraordinarily unlikely but given the oj experience wouldnt that turn it into something of a circus . Yes, but this is going to be a circus anyway. Donald trump is running for president again and they might be, they are trying to put him in prison at the same time, and whether trump is president again, just everyone has to understand is ultimately a political question the voters will decide on. No judge or no jury picks that. Its the voters. Howie laura got 20 seconds. I would say this. Trump decided to appear in court in person instead of going by zoom because he wanted the media attention, the focus, the car chase. He sees this as his ticket to victory in the public eye, and so we will see , he will control as john lauro, says he wants cameras in the courtroom it may not happen but i can see why he wants it to be on full display to make his case. I agree completely. Howie fairly rarely happens in federal cases. When we come back where does this third indictment leave trumps gop rivals, and later what did we learn from Hunter Bidens former Business Partner . The americas best Celebrity Sale is happening now. 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Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Howie donald trump may have been charged with legally trying to overturn the election but his gop rivals basically backed him and side stepped the questions while criticizing the Justice Department. So when im president , we will bring accountability, we will end weaponization and that regards to new leadership at the fbi, doj. Howie well, one notable exception and a key witness at the trial is trumps former Vice President. The American People deserve to know that on that day, the president xied me to choose between him and the constitution and i chose the constitution and i always will. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes. Howie i love that crackpot lawyers. Robbie, given the gravity of these charges and the saturation media coverage, how are most of his opponents not going after donald trump . Are they terrified that any criticism will alienate his voters . Yeah, i think so, but then its the question is why are they bothering to run against him. Like lets Set Aside Pence and people who are going after donald trump but the rest of them if they are saying that hes correct, about the weaponization of the federal government i think they raise good points and desantis makes good points about the fbi and pressure on Americans Speeches And Rights Et Cetera but then why are you running against him . Hes at the center of this weaponization issue. If you believe that shouldnt donald trump be the guy . Howie interesting, well, laura , trump said i feel badly for mike pence attracting no droughts, enthusiasm or loyalty who as a member of the Trump Administration should be loving him. Im sure he feels really badly but i think this is the best press that mike pence has had in his whole campaign. What do you think . Well hes having a moment and he is caught, because he cannot deny his testimony. He had go and swear To Tell The Truth and he did so and that will all be coming out in the months ahead so he cannot in sort of good political conscience not criticize trump right now but we understand its a bold move. None of his colleagues are and the deep irony is they are all waiting for these indictments to lower trumps numbers for them to be too much baggage so that they can make the argument that hes unelectable so they need this to succeed all while condemning the Justice Department for bringing these charges. It is wild to me to watch the tap dance and the twostep because they need this indictment to succeed for their campaigns to do so. Howie mike pence is in a box because the people who love trump dont like what he did and the media loves what he did because they think he stood up for the constitution, but we dont get the vote in large numbers in republican primaries. Robbie, trump now says hes got an open mind about coming to the first debate on august 23, the fox debate, after dinner with two top Fox Executives but then he turns around and tells brightbard, that it be foolish or even stupid to show up, so whats with this game of teasing im not sure why hes a little bit skiddish about doing this debate. It seems like it be a good idea. He could be right that he doesnt immediate to do it because he has the nomination anyway but hes shined at all these previous debates. The camera is just laser focused on him, because hes the entertaining personality, what everybody wants to watch. More attention has always benefited trump. Howie but with that spotlight, will reflect also on the other candidates and he will be giving a platform. We forget their names when standing next to him. Its just trump. Its just trump. Howie im not sure i totally agree with that but you could make the case. Laura . If hes on that stage, somebody like chris cristi whose a very good debater, could just pummel him over this indictment. On the other hand as robbie points out trump is a particularly good counterpunch er, as i remember from 2015, 2016, and 2020. Would his absence make it look like hes kind of hiding out . I think his absence lowers the profile of all of his opponents and makes them look small. Strategically, its very smart for him to avoid the debate, although i have to say i would love to see the gop fireworks as i think we all would, but i think that no matter how good he is, hes one of six voices on the stage, and you know, hes a great counterpuncher which makes it be a great spectacle to watch but ultimately hes tens of points ahead of his nearest rival and he has no need to do this. He is

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