Threatening, hes potentially witness tampering. Then theres hunter biden and the transcript from his his exbusiness partner that is, shall we say, revaling. Devon archer claimed it was all about selling the biden brand. But which biden . The latest on how joe biden is doing his own rebranding. Then a mob seen in manhattan mob scene in manhattan when a social media star promised some free stuff, now hes been charged with inciting a riot and for Downtown New York commuters, a Travel Nightmare welcome, everybody. Glad to have you, im neil cavuto. By the way, did to you know that that new york city bedlam actually started with the promise of free ps5 Gaming Consoles . I mean, i could see if they were giving away boxes of cannolis or napoleons, but a game . Anyway, more of that in a bit. But first to the serious fallout from all of these president ial legal battles, and Alexandria Hoff In Washington where theyre very much not playing games. Alexandria, to you. Reporter yeah, neil, serious stuff. Justice Department Special counsel jack smith is now seeking to limit what former President Trump can share about the Election Fraud case against him. In an appeal for a protective order requested last night, smith expressed that witnesses, the case itself could be compromised if trump continues to post able about it. Reading here from the request, quote, such a restriction is particularly important in this case because the defendant has previously issued public statements on social media regarding witnesses, judge, attorneys and others associated with legal matters pending against him. So smith used this truth social post here by trump as an example where he wrote with, quote, if you go after me, im coming after you. And just one day after pleading not guilty to charges stemming from his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 president ial election results, the former president delivered e marks at a dinner hosted by the alabama gop, and he clammed slammed what he sees as unfair legal treatment. Biden and his protectors know he cannot win this race any other way, so now theyre trying something that hasnt been tried in country, election interference. Reporter the House Republicans are questioning the timing of all of this. They feel that a more Concrete Connection between the president and his sons Overseas Business Dealings was made through hunter bidenens business associate deafen or archers testimony on devon archers testimony on monday. It seems to me after you learn of the real dealings behind the bidens, the next day he gets indicted. Reporter democrats have largely ignored or at least tried to ignore these accusations by the gop. Former House Speaker nancy pelosi called any talk over starting perhaps impeachment proceedings against President Biden a frivolous diversionary tactic, neil. Neil all right. Alexandria, thank you for that. I want to go right now to john yu, berkeley law professor, former Justice Thomas law clerk. He has the gravitas, so im glad hes joined us on a saturday. You know, john, jack smith is essentially saying, all right, you went a step too far, mr. President. , talking about this and all but threatening people on your truth social site. So is he now cracking down or could he crack down on the president s social media posts . Hi, neil, good to be with you. By the way, as a philly boy, ive seen fights break out over boxes of cannoli, you dont need social media. [laughter] neil tell me about it. This protective order and the request and the way its been phrased, it shows you how unusual and unique this case is, how it brings together conflicts between the politics of the election and the politics of President Trump exercising his Free Speech Rights and what would happen in normal legal trials, normal prosecution. But this is not a normal prosecution because this is the most important prosecution in our history. This is the prosecution of a president for trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power. The reason why it causes the conflict is that President Trump normally with his Free Speech Rights would be able to say anything he wants to about something in the political world, mig about somebody attacking him. Anything about somebody attacking him. He could punch back as we have seen him do so many times on social media and at speeches like the clip you showed. But whats normal for a Criminal Trial is that you dont get to say what you learn in discovery. Theres a lot of Secret Grand Jury material thats handed over to the defense. Eventually, you do get to make it public because you can present it at the trial itself. You want if donald trump wants to attack those witnesses against him, hell get his chance but in court. Usually in a criminal case you dont get to just disclose everything you fine out from the prosecution right up front. So that tension, this is just the beginning. Its just the beginning of repeated examples where law and politics are going to come into conflict in this case. Neil but i think what some prosecutors across the board have been saying about the tone of the president s missive whether it was a real threat or not and, of course, thats always in the eye of the beholder, is that it could have a harmful Chilling Effect on potential witnesses, maybe even those here. What do you think of that . One thing is i think the prosecutors are also showing that they themselves have an eye to politics because i think as everyone would say, this kind of protective order is normal for a Criminal Trial. And its not strange that the prosecution would ask the judge to just remind the defense, keep everything quiet, keep everything scent, its confidential. Im actually surprised the prosecution reacted so quickly to something donald trump said about them on social media. It is the true that, yes, a defense could go too far by revealing what it knows, it could intimidate witnesses, it could release embarrassing information about them a which is not relevant for trial but theyve said to the grand jury secretly. Heres the interesting thing, usually if they did do that, if the defendant did do that, they could get sanctioned by the judge. You could easily see donald trump saying, what are you going to do, fine me . I dont care. What are you going to do, put me in jail . Thats exactly what i want for my campaign. He might violate all the terms of the protective orders even if the judge grants them. Neil so let me ask you, john, there are a lot of people who kind of looked at these four latest charges in this latest indictment on what led up to january 6th and what role the former president might have had, that they were speech specious, they didnt even tie him directly to january 6th. They hearkened back to statutes and laws that were on the books going back more than a century involving the ku klux klan that he was reaching. That got a counternarrative going, john, that, well, he must be having Something Else that hes ready to debut in a trial or what have you. What do you make of that . As you and i discussed when we watched the arraignment a few days ago, this is such a momentous part of history. This is, i think, The Most Serious Criminal Trial ever brought in the history of our country, accusing a former president of trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power. You and me, all of us want the case to be water tight, want the charges to be clear, want them to be based Ontive Readings of the law Ontive Readings of the law with clear facts. Unfortunately, im disappointed. I think the critics are right that the indictment is actually based on stretches, real stretches of the facts, actually claims fraud thats used against government contractors, a statute used for obstruction of congress usually used for tampering with witnesses and evidence in congressional investigations, a Ku Klux Klan Act from the reconstruction era thats never been used in situations like this. His case based on unprecedent, first of their kind stretches of the law. Neil yeah. The other thing thats interesting are the facts. We dont have the facts linking trump to the rioters, so we dont see charges for sedition, we dont see charges for insurrection. I would want all of this to be a lot stronger if the government was going to take in this first step ever in history in such a major Criminal Trial as charging a former president. Neil you know, i was thinking no charge of sedition or anything like that, nothing to upend the country, thats where a lot of them democrats with whom ive talked had hoped to bring in the 14th amendment, that the president violated that and, as such, cant serve asth president of the United States if thats the case. That doesnt seem to have legally come up here unless hes trying, that is, to push it in there. Im not sure. No, thats right, neil. Disqualification from running for president has to come as a result of conviction for a crime that lists that as a possible sentence. These three crimes which are, again, stretches which are not used for political cases. In fact, thats one worry you have, that this is going to criminalize legitimate will political activity no matter how outrageous, money of those crimes has disqualification from future office as part of a possible sentence. So even if smith wins and convicts trump, this is one of the crazy things that could happen, smith could win, trump could be in jail if the trial was the fastest ever in history. I dont think this would actually happen fast enough, he could be in jail, he could still win the presidency. The constitution because not does not prohibit the president from being someone whos actually in jail. The crimes that do allow for disqualification, insurrection and sedition, are not charged here. The ones the democrats have been talking about ever since january 2020 are not present, so you cant, as you say, neil, youre right, smith cannot actually get trump disqualified from becoming president again even if he wins these days cases. Neil why would wild stuff. Thank you, john yoo, he was very helpful when we were following this earlier this week, not so helpful on whether the president would stop at a restaurant and treat people as he did in florida, but hes foxed on the law stuff focused on the law stuff. Karl rove, former White House Deputy chief of staff, best selling author. Karl, you know, john ended with, i think, a significant insight here. If the goal all along was to sort of Kneecap Republicans and hurt donald trump, well, theyve escalated his values in the polls. That could be shortlived, and maybe that was the intent because hes the nominee they prefer, and youve heard that he cant win a general election. Lo and behold, this past week some polls come out that show, yes, he can. I just wonder your thoughts on this and when those going after him could be going too far. What do you think . Well, we dont know. Youre right, each of the previous indictments has helped the former president many in his poll standings, and the question is, does this latest one help him. We wont know for a few weeks. But the question is what is the cumulative the impact. This was a revealing number that politico dug up for us. They looked at the donations to the Trump Campaign following his April 4th Pleading Guilty on the hush money case in manhattan, the sort of dubious case that everybodys been talking about. He got 80,000 donors on that day in the next 24 hours and raised 4 million. On the other hand, on june 13th when he pled not guilty in the classify documents case, more serious and credible indictment, he had 35,000 people who contributed 1. 3 million. So itll be with interesting to see what happens. These were both, incidentally, on tuesdays. He pled not guilty on thursday of this week, but itll be interesting to see what the impact was on how much money he raised in those, on thursday into friday compared to the other two days. The other changes interesting to me is what thing thats interesting to me is what does he look like in the early states. Look, people in iowa and New Hampshire and maybe to a lesser extent nevada and south carolina, theyre paying attention to this because they realize, particularly in iowa and New Hampshire, they have a big responsibility to start the process. So im going to be looking at this over the next couple of weeks. In iowa today 58 of the republicans say theyre either undecided or for somebody other than trump. So theyre at 58 not trump. 56 in New Hampshire say im not trump, Somebody Else or undecided. And south carolina, 57 percent. So im going to be watching this in the weeks ahead to see if theres any growth in that percentage that say im not trump. That might indicate at least in the place where theyre paying a lot of attention to this, that its starting to have a deleterious effect. Neil well watch closely. Karl rove, thank you very much, my friend. Thanks for coming in on a saturday. In the meantime, we are also paying attention to the border because its become a topical issue not only becau visiting there, but what they are seeing and discovering there including drug cartels. We always knew they were playing a big role in getting migrants here. Now theyre in the broad light of day, guns loaded, to show the world, and they dont care whether you see them or not. cant stop adding stuff to your cart . Get the Bank Of America customized cash rewards card, choose the Online Shopping category and earn 3 cash back. bobby my store and my Design Business . Were exploding. But my old internet, was not letting me run the show. So, we switched to Verizon Business internet. They have business grade internet, nationwide. vo make the switch. 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Its very rare to see actual muglers that are bringing Illegal Immigrants between the ports of entry armed with a rifle. Weve had several events earlier this year where we worked with the mexican authorities to arrest smugglers armed with handguns, but to see a rifle really shows the capability, how brazen these criminals are. Neil all right. That was Chris Oliveras looking at and, you know, releasing some of this video and photographs that he had collected from the his men and women, himself also, about how brazen some of these drug cartels are, actually escorting migrants across the border. No no to matter how they do it. And, you know, completely fine with people being able to take pictures of them, video of them and continue along their way. Brandon judd warned about this,ed Border Patrol Council President back with us. Brandon, what do you make of this . This is pretty bold. It clearly shows that the cartels do not fear our Justice System. They know darn good and well that even though they commit a crime in mexico, that it follows through into the United States, we still have the authority to go after those individuals even if theyre not in the United States. But it clearly shows they do not fear us. They know that we have a tiered Justice System right now. They understand this. They understand that prosecutors will look at race, they understand that prosecutors will look at jenner, they understand that prosecutors will look at prosperity, how rich an individual individual is, whether this is a border issue, and they know border issues are not being prosecuted. They understand this. It used to be for my entire career, 25 the years, these cartels would always operate in the shadows. They never wanted to be seen because they understood that the public backlash would be huge. They also a understood that prosecutors would then go after them. Right now the backlash isnt that big, and prosecutors wont go after them, so they are operating with impunity. It also shows that the Mexican Government does not have any control on what is going on right here. You know, when somebody crosses the border illegally, its not a crime in mexico if theyre coming to the United States, but it is a crime if its tied to human smuggling. And when you have cartels and when you have guns in this, then you can clearly tie that to human smuggling, but the Mexican Government also is doing nothing. These cartels are generating billions of dollars because, one, the United States isnt doing anything and, two, the Mexican Government didnt isnt doing anything. This is a perfect storm to see how dangerous the border is right now, ands and this is why so many krill aliens and feint yall are coming to the United States fentanyl. It has become a dangerous schism for all u. S. Citizens. Neil its also a message, i would assume, brandon, to the migrants themselves, dont i try this on your own. In fact, almost a threat. Youre not going to try this on your own. Oh, absolutely. When i first joined the Border Patrol, it used to be there were mom and pop organizations that were doing the smuggling. It wasnt necessarily criminal cartels. Now the cartels control everything. Nobody crosses the border illegally. No products come into the United States whether thats drugs or counterfeit products coming to the United States without the cartels go ahead. This is, again, there are very, very dangerous organizations, they do not care about human life. They will kill competitors, they will also kill migrants that are coming into the United States if they do not pay them. There areing very, very dangerous, and thats why its so important we get a handle on this. We care about human life, but you cant care about human life if you dont properly enforce the laws, and were not doing that right now. Neil you cant not care about human life when The Other Side clearly doesnt care about human life. Your point is quite correct. Brandon, good seeing you again. Thank you for helping us out with this. Thank you, neil, appreciate it. Neil brandon judd. Well, you heard about this new york uprising like out of nowhere, police charging the influencer for inciting what amounted to essentially a riot, Unlawful Assembly at the very least after after a mob converged on yesterdays union square in Downtown New York. Apparently, he was promising free playstations, other stuff like that. Lets just say his 6. 5 million followers were keen on it, and thousands of them came to sort of get a piece of it. The mayhem eni sued, soon it became a Commuter Nightmare for the area. Thats a popular stop for those getting into and doubt out of Downtown New York. 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Book now at bestwestern. Com. Neil hey, washington, well to your aa hole. Still pointing fingers as investors just point to the exits. Welcome, everybody, im neil cavuto, and investors leave us after the s p consistent the wall street. Fox on top of stocks going down, way down, and nothing, nothing getting them to move up. Not even the president of the United States appearing before the nation to try and calm them down. We didnt need a Rating Agency to tell us that we need a balanced, longterm approach to deficit is reduction. Neil for all the president s talk of working with with The Other Side now, is he still continuing to blame The Other Side, and in the case of standard poors, grill them as well . Reports this evening the Senate Banking committee is looking into the S P Downgrade and how that came about. Neil all right, two quick things i notice going back in time here back a dozen years ago, a, i had a better toupee. The other was how we did this 12 years ago and learned nothing from it, and we are witnessing it again. What i was referring to was s p at that time, in 2011, down graigd our aaa a rating. A lot of people thought it would be the end of the world and they would quickly ratchet that back up. They never have in a dozen years. Along comes fitch investors to say were going to make good on a threat that we kind of signaled back in may, that leaves moodys the only other major Ratings Agency that has not downgraded us. But the reasons then and the reasons now are essentially the same, our finances are a mess. And these government shutdowns, threats of shutdowns and working through them are beginning to be a joke. It was then, is now. What is interesting to note here is we tend to get through this stuff, so you can always sound like the boy who cry wolf saying that we cant keep getting through this stuff. Enter david dotson, Stanford Graduate School of business, what he makes of that. Dave, it is interesting, right . When i was looking back over our coverage at the time, a lot of people saying, well, this will be a powerful lesson for us. Well get our house in order, you know, we wont bring the nations finances to a brink ever again. By my count, we have at least 30 times. So what happened . Neil, you and i were on parallel tracks this morning, because i was doing exactly the same thing, looking back a dozen years ago. And theres something silly and serious about what happened this week. The silly thing is that it took them a dozen years to figure out what anyone whos living on this planet knows, which is that we dont take in we spend more money than we take in, and we have no plan. And when it happened a dozen years ago, the Stock Market Panicked and then went right back to normal. And thats exactly whats going to happen this time. Because where are you going to take the money . Take it out of treasuries and do what with it . Youre not going to put it into banks. Theres only two other Major Economies that have a aaa rating, to its going to have, this in my mind, no effect on daytoday investments neil you know, you think, dave, to that point, just to clarify, we are a haven, i understand that. We always have been, we make good on our commitments. People know when things get dicey, they park their dough here, but maybe the less theyll think of that. There are already countries that are trying to come up with an alternative for the dollar, an enticing alternative to our markets. Do you think theyll ever succeed e . Yeah, and thats where the sears part comes in. There is signaling serious part comes in. There is signaling when you go from aaa to aa . The distinction is not very big, but the signaling is important. The thing that confuses me, or neil, is why it took us a dozen years to discover for, for fitch to discover what everyones known, which is that that we are in a mess fiscally. And what im hoping is that this signaling will say to politicians or say to americans that anybody whos interested in talking seriously about the debt has to put on the table either taxes, military or entitlements, Social Security and medical spending. If youre not willing to put that on the table, then you either are not serious about deficit reform, or you flunked Third Grade Math. Neil but, you know, Third Grade Math or not, its the third rail of politics to even think about addressing entitlements that simply are not mathematically sustainable. This isnt a political point, just is. And yet the two leading candidates for president dont want them touched. I can understand politically why that makes perfectly good sense, but the American People that are being led to believe all is right, you know, nothing to see here, move on, but all is not right. Thats right. And thats why im hoping on the serious to side of what happened this week is that it brings up to the surface that we have a fundamental problem. It has nothing to do with any one administration or congress. This has been going on for 25 years. And 25 years ago it was fairly easy to address. Every year that we kick the can down the alley and every year that a congressman says im more interested in getting elected in two years than i am of taking care of my children or grandchildren, the problem gets bigger and bigger and bigger. What im hoping is that in its own way the Credit Agency shine a light on something we have got to be paying attention to. And its the third rail, but at our peril, neil, right . Neil it is, youre right. Because the third rail right, its when we run out of money. And these numbers that we see in the deficit are understated because the actual, true gap between the present value of what we owe and what we have currently is another 30 trillion. Neil its staggering when you think about it, dave. We owe more than were worth as a country. Absolutely. Neil that is just mindblowing. Dave, thank you, i think. I think. Youre right to warn us about it. In the meantime, weve got the latest on these gilgo beach murders. In fact, more victims, at least those identified. For many years now, shes simply been known as jane doe number 7. This week we found out something, she has a name. cant stop adding stuff to your cart . Get the Bank Of America customized cash rewards card, choose the Online Shopping category and earn 3 cash back. Lowes knows a Style Refresh is even more refreshing. When its at the right price. Thats why, weve we pull our favorite looks together instore and in in the app. So it is easy to get the look you want for less. You got this. We got you. Neil all right, some closure for at least one family in the gilgo beach murders, an identification on a victim from many years ago. C. B. Cotton has more. C. B. Reporter another victim in the Gilgo Beach Killings has been identified after nearly three decades. Her name is Karen Vergata. We were able to identify fire island jane doe as karen very bat that who was 34 years old at time of her disappearance. She went missing approximately february 14th, 1996. At the time she live on West 45th Street In Manhattan and was believed to be working as an escort. Reporter prosecutors say vergatas legs and feet were Town Oblong Island in 1996 and her skull discovered in 2011 about 20 miles away. Investigators used a cheek swab there a relative to confirm the remains were hers. Now, no one has been charged in her death, and Suffolk County District Attorney ray tierney refused to say whether accused long island serial killer Rex Heuermann is linked to the case. We are going to continue to work this particular case as we did the gilgo four investigation. Were going to have the no comment on what, if any, suspects we develop do. Reporter prosecutors request a cheek swab from heuermann. According to court dock youths, they think documents, they think it could backfire, a Prosecutor Writing should the defendants dna from the cheek swab not match the dma profile from the pizza crust and napkins. Submitted the from Rex Heuermann, the defense would be presented with a potential trial defense. The manhattan architect is currently charged in the deaths of three women and the Prime Suspect in a fourth killing. Hes currently being held without bail. Neil . Neil thank you for that, c. B. C. B. Cotton on that. A good time to raise the question with bill daley, former fbi investigator. The way c. B. Reported it, and and im its very accurate, it would confuse the Defense Argument linking him to so many murders if in this case dna here doesnt match this particular woman like it has in three other cases for him. But that wouldnt mitigate the fact that it still links him to at least those three deaths and potentially a fourth and potentially others to come. So what does a mixed dna realize mean . Read mean . Well, i believe what i was hearing there in the report was the fact that they want to make sure the dna matched what was taken from the pizza box, not necessarily from around ms. Vergata. Theres no suggestion at at this point they actually have that evidence that has his dna associated with her remains. I think what theyre saying is theyre looking to make sure they can confirm through further dna testing, and theres certainly levels, things you can get from a pizza box and one you actually get from a cheek swab which is kind of a robust environment for dna. So i think what theyre saying here is that the current indictment against him is predicated on this nexus of his dna from the pizza box and the victims, the three victims. But going forward, youd certainly have to establish that he was actually in contact with my of the other victims including ms. Vergata which at this point authorities have not indicated they have. Neil you know, it also comes at a time where they could use more dna, theres been a push to try to get a cheek swab from him. Does he are to agree to that, or can it be forced on him in no, no, were going to get a cheek swab from you. Were going to do it, like, now. Yeah. Actually, thats a very good question, neil, that from a legal standpoint i can see where his attorneys would rebuff that. However, i do know is when people are incarcerated, right now people are currently taking dna samples put into the fbis coder system which is kind of the Dna Fingerprint System the fb with i has developed which actually has Hundreds Of Thousands of convicted, suspected, arrested and otherwise legallyobtained samples. So theres a Legal Process which hell probably try to push back, but i think at the end of the day authorities may have the ability to be able to compel him to do so. Neil you know, im wondering where you see this going, bill, because theyre obviously looking at maybe more bodies, identified along the long island area that might not be attached to him as well as trips he took to atlantic city. I believe he had a condo in las vegas, that this is widening out much as it did with the ted bundy investigation. Im just wondering what you think of that, where where all this might be headed. Yeah. Sure, neil. I mean, its certainly not far to imagine minute whos been active in committing these type of horrific crimes here, that when he goes to other places where hes perhaps even less known, it may give him the ability to carry those things out. Certainly the authorities are looking to see what the nexus is around some of the other remains. What they would say about the current identification of Karen Vergata was that her remains were found on fire island in 1996. For anyone familiar, thats an area actually that is not accessible by vehicle, so you would have to get there either by ferry or boat. Fifteen years later, the skull, the r rest of her remains were found many in an area adjacent to what theyre calling the gilgo area of the Barrier Island where we have jones beach, etc. So its actually a different Barrier Island about 20 miles away and 15 years apart. So the question would be is that were there any kind of forensic evidence left behind either on the first or second remains that give them a connection to a suspect. Because that really is the whole issue here. Its very helpful to identify her remains, helpful to her family with who may be wondering what happened to her. Its helpful to authorities to try to provide that second linkage either by colocation data from Cellular Information Or by forensic data, meaning dna, thats found on the suspect and found on the victim. Neil bill daley, thank you for this. Well keep monitoring this case. It does get curiouser and curiouser, as they say, every day. It is. Thank you, neil. Neil meanwhile, taking a look at ev sales. They sound cool, they are cool in many cases, but people just are not buying. And auto dealers are here to tell us, you know, its not getting any better. These things just sit on our lots. After this. Verything with just one card. Chase freedom unlimited. So, if youre off the racking. Or crab cracking, youre cashbacking. Cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. Nah, im working on my six pack. Switch to a king suite or book a silent retreat. Silent retreat . Hold up yeeerp . I cant talk right now, im at a silent retreat. 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Apparently, the interest just isnt there. Maybe its an an issue of high price, maybe its an issue if we lore the prices, the automakers say thatll make a difference. Apparently thats not happening either. Kelly ogrady with more. Reporter the Department Of Transportation just issued a proposal that would essentially force all new vehicles to be electric by 2032. Thats really aggressive, especially considering electric vehicles are selling below manufacturer suggested retail price. So i want the show you this. Its a web site, i see cars. Com. It notes that four evs are selling at or below msrp, of course, eating into any profits manufacturers might see, and theyre arguing the current ev Business Model isnt sustainable. Whether its electric cars piling up at dealer lots, whether its longer time to turn for these vehicles, whether its new Manufacturers Lowing lowering their praises to try to keep them moving, theres every indicate that weve indication that weve kind of hit maybe a threshold in the ev market, and all of a sudden its become much harder to sell these vehicles. Reporter and on top of that, of course, the headline has always been evs are a cheaper alternative to gas cars, right . More expensive in the beginning, but over time the you would save. Well, a new study challenges that. Theres a number of reasons, right in that doesnt account for the cost to install a home charger or the cost to drive to the chargeer. And that may not seem like a big deal in a place like charger, but you may have to go quite out of the way in areas where charging infrastructure is lacking. I want to put some numbers behind it. This study share ised per100 miles, gas vehicles are almost 3 cheaper than an ev counterpart while mid price were 1. 50 cheaper. You add on issues like overloading our grid, and you sit here and wonder, well, we have these deadlines, wheres the Transition Plan to make that financially and logistically feasible for the average american back to you, neil. Neil wild stuff. Kelly, thank you very much. In the meantime here, if at first you dont succeed, well, keep trying. And if at first the Supreme Court shuts you down, find an end run. What the administration is doing to save the student loan and the repayment plan that could make things easier for some but clearly not for all. Ying for a . The Monthly Payments can be expensive. With an affordable home loan from newday, you can pay cash and own the car or truck of your dreams. christina with Verizon Business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. So, no matter what, im running this kitchen. vo make the switch. Its your business. Its your verizon. Neil all right, that Student Loan Forgiveness Plan is hardly dead. The Supreme Court shut down one measure, another couldnt get off the ground politically even within the democratic party. But now the administration launching a new save Student Loan Repayment plan that would offer Loan Forgiveness to some, savings of up to 1,000 a year in Loan Forgiveness for others. Dan geltrude and steve forbes, forbes immediate what Chair Editor In media editorinchief on the the significance of this, steve the, give em credit for not giving up, but wheres this going . Well, what its doing is two things, one, its flouting the rule of law, the spurt of the rule of law. The spirit. When we have a former president getting indicted, serious allegations against this president and his son and his brother, doing this kind of end run where you know its not constitutional, the Supreme Courts her knocked you down before, why do you keep doing it . Its verbose. I think it just makes the public more cynical and is not fair to students. They dont know what the rules of the game are. Theyre being played. Theyre puppets. Neil all right, ill put you down as a maybe on this. [laughter] dan, what do you where do you think this goes though . Because obviously, you know, the more relief you offer students, sadly what weve come to discover, the more tuition, room and board and a lot of those fees just go up. And its been a cycle that continues. This will only spur that, wont it . Thats exactly it, neil. You get in this cycle where you never end the cost of higher education. So lets even say, which im not saying it will work, lets say this Program Works and you give these students relief. You have not solved the problem. So whats going on right now, in my opinion, is nothing short of predatory lending. If you want to really solve the problem here, neil, i think theres three things you have to address. One, universities have to have some Skin In The Game. Because if students cant afford to pay back these loans, universities dont care, doesnt impact them. Second, i think that students and their parents have to complete s p some type some type of Educational Program to show that they have an understanding of what theyre getting involved with 5, 10, 20 years down the line in repayment. And third, if students dont qualify for loans, they have to be turned down no different from anyone else that gets a loan. If you cant pay it back with, or you dont get the loan. Neil you know, steve, there was another proposal pushed by some republicans, there were a couple of democrats in there too if my memory serves me right, said that maybe we have to start, you know, pruning who would be eligible for loan relief or hones period or loans period. If they have a promising major in a promising career thatll pay well, yes. If not, no. What do you think . Well, thats why lending should be returned entirely to the private sector where banks and lenders there on the line if the loans not paid. The idea of dans and others to have the university have Skin In The Game is good, and also how about transparency . Students have less transparency about what they owe in payments like that than you do on your credit card or your mortgage. Theres a good documentary out from a thing called izzit. Org on the whole lending thing. If you borrow 40,000, 10,000 a year for 4 years, you think you owe 40 . No, the interest charges, its 47. To dans point, its a good educational documentary that every parent and student should see. Yes, universities have Skin In The Game, and i think the idea that everyone has to go to college has to be put to rest. You may want to do it later, you may want to do courses online. But you also there should be no stigma to the fact you might learn a skill that the market actually wants and will pay you well for it. Neil not a crazy concept, dan. All i know is my plumber, electrician, his people have people. In other words, just getting them is like booking the pope. Those careers are revered in places like germany and japan. Not so much here. Thats what seems kind of backwards to me. Yeah. Listen, i think the point that steve just made is spot on. What were saying here is that college shouldnt be for everyone, ask its not for everyone. And its not for everyone. We need diversity in the work force. And part of the problems that were having with shortages, you have people that are going to college taking out huge loans, and then they realize, well, that education i just got, well, it really wasnt a good return on investment. I could have saved a lot of money and gone into a trade and been very financially successful. So i think that goes back to we have to change the way were educating younger people, neil, from high school. Neil yeah. Just get the priorities right to avoid this and, you know, the Supreme Court tells you you cant do it this way, then dont do it. Guys, i want to thank you both very much. In the meantime, were going to give you an update on the union square riots. Note to self, dont promise to give away free stuff and dont think you wont have potentially Something Like this. Cant stop adding stuff to your cart . Get the Bank Of America customized cash rewards card, choose the Online Shopping category and earn 3 cash back. 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