Transcripts For FOXNEWS Tucker Carlson Tonight 20240708 : co

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our borders are racist, shut up, putin stooge. but wait a second, why is it disloyal to side with russia but loyal to side with ukraine? they're both foreign countries that don't care anything about the united states. kind of strange. it's all that absurd performance but it's all they've got any hand. the fact is ukraine is strategically irrelevant to the united states, no rational person could defend a war with russia over ukraine. of nobody thinks a war like that would make america safer or stronger or more prosperous. if you take a look at our economy recently, dangerous levels of inflation, it workforce in disarray, wildly chaotic swings in financial markets if you haven't noticed. joining a conflict in each in europe fix any of that? of course not. it'll make it worse. if the neocons aren't restrained, and soon, americans are going to be a lot poorer. so why are they doing this? that's a complex question. hubris, stupidity, the damage psychological makeup of our leaders, massive lobbying campaigns by ukrainian politicians and american defense contractors. all of those factors play a role in this. no tragedy has a single cause. but what's not at all complicated is who benefits from our conflict with russia. china benefits, period. the chinese government is the only certain winner here. can give you many examples to illustrate this but consider the latest economic sanctions the white house has proposed against russia. the biden a administration may use something called the foreign direct product rule to cut off russia's supply of dummy conductors made with american technology. this would, in the hopeful assessment of "the washington post" "potentially deprive russian citizens of some smartphones, tabloids and video game consoles." so depriving russian citizens is good, we are told because russian citizens are bad. okay, but one of the long-term effects on us? russians are still going to have smartphones. it will just get their components somewhere else, meaning from china. chinese a party pledged to help and they have every incentive to make good on that promise. in other words, the biden a administration succeeded in continuing to drive are two main global rivals closer to a permanent alliance with one another. how does that help america? well, it doesn't. over time it's dangerous and not just militarily. the only reason the u.s. government can enforce international sanctions is because the u.s. dollar is the world's reserve currency. russia and china don't like this, obviously, so let's say they convinced other global powers that the u.s. government was abusing its monopoly on monetary control. they do it to us, they might do it to you, they would say, and in other countries decided to drop the u.s. dollar in favor of a new currency. where would that leave us? suddenly the united states would no longer be able to run an economy based on debt. we would be impoverished immediately overnight. has no one in washington thought of this? apparently not. imposing tough new sanctions every few months feeds their moral vanity, it makes them feel like good people. what fools they are. both parties, by the way, participate in this, preening about sanctions on television is a lot easier than improving lives of people in your own country, so that's what they do. republican senator joni ernst of iowa telling you that protecting ukraine's sacred borders is much more important than, say, saving americans in des moines from overdosing on drugs. watch. >> so we do need to go ahead and impose sanctions on rationale. we need to show them that we mean business and we will be there for ukraine should they invade. certainly we need to make sure that any defensive aid is in the hands of the ukrainians as well as as much lethal aid as we can provide at this time. >> tucker: those are our leaders. totally ignorant. just reading a script. it's nice to hear someone in the press ask the obvious follow-up, which would be why exactly senator ernst do you believe it is so vital to send more lethal aid to ukraine into "go ahead and impose more sanctions on russia"? why? how would she answer the question? will never know how she answer because no one in the media would ever ask her. if reporters are the most bovine of the herd animals. if the other kids say it's -- journalists feel that way about everything, but especially about armed conflict. the longest war in american history ended this fall when we left afghanistan. the new consensus in washington is we need another war, now. and that is especially prevalent in tv news. watch this teleprompter jacket try to push our russia-hitting secretary of state into hating russia even more. >> we are proceeding on both paths of the same time. the choices bottom reboot is. >> what are you negotiating? if russia's demand's are not starters -- president biden has already said ukraine is not going to join nato anytime soon, you've made this offer a reciprocal military exercises, what's left to talk about? >> tucker: what's left to talk about? too much diplomacy, mr. secretary, not enough killing! that's her position, apparently. at this point, every project in his life has does that, collapsed into disaster from his personal affairs to the war in iraq, which he promoted endlessly. having come to middle age, he is unequivocally failure. he's looking for one last war to redeem it all. he's thinking conflict with nuclear armed russia could be that war. watch. >> we should be arming the ukrainians like crazy. we should be preparing for guerrilla warfare. if the russians go -- i think the most important thing we can do right now is to lay out a menu of sanctions so that putin knows exactly what's going to happen to him if he goes over the line because right now with these vague threats he can be left with the feeling, well, maybe the u.s. and the europeans, maybe we are not really going to do anything. >> tucker: again you have to ask yourself, why is this more "patriotic" to take one countries side than the other countries side? we have no obligation to defend any country, either one of these countries. neither one is american, neither one has the same interest as we do. why is it one to support -- wrong to support one and not the other? what's wrong is to support either one of them. their interests are not the same as ours, they are very different. he doesn't care. "arm the ukrainians, prepare for guerrilla warfare!" only a man completely insulated from the consequences of his blood lust could talk like that. there will always be another think tank job for him and people like him. but what's politico's excuse? the political blog has been pushing for war in ukraine for months now. why? what's in it for them? let's see. a few days ago they publish this terrifying had headline. russia could at any point launch any attack in ukraine. the piece goes on to promise that "experts and policymakers are not preparing for a range of escalatory measures." well, that sounds scary, we better send aliens more in military hardware to ukraine right away. beneath the headline, you learn why they are interested. because the story is "presented by lockheed martin." in other words, defense contractors think it is high time to spend much more on defense contracting in ukraine. let it go is happy to make their case in exchange for money. over "the washington post" you may have seen this op-ed with this headline. "biden must show that the united states dan's ready to support ukraine militarily if necessary." that piece was written by a man called michael vickers. who's michael vickers? among other things, michael vickers sits on the board of the weapons contractor bae systems. that would seem relevant because war with russia would be potentially, in any case, highly profitable for them. but somehow "the washington post" didn't bother to tell readers about this. it remained undisclosed. so how does this look from across the world? welcome of the chinese much be watching this happen with their jaws open, completely delighted. they can't believe their good fortune. they watched as the entire political leadership class of the united states runs at full speed in the wrong direction. away from asia, which is so clearly the future, and towards the murky past on the fringes of eastern europe. ukraine, russia! and the chinese must be wondering how could these people be so stupid and so self-destructive? warning about this for a very long time, former trump administration dod official and we are happy to have them join us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. it does seem clear if you take three steps back and tune out the noise about our secret alliance with ukraine, not sure where that comes from, but step away and look at the world, it's pretty obvious the people running things are looking in the wrong direction. >> absolutely, tucker. great to be with you. china is by far the biggest challenge to american interests in the way that you're talking about it. if what's really going to affect our economy, our lives, our prosperity, our freedoms, and the future of the world is going to be settled in asia. it's going to be over 50% of global gdp. europe is moving down to 10% and i think you're right, the ukraine situation may concern us to some degree but it's far, far from the most significant thing in the fundamental reality is we have to make choices. you talk about the currency but it's just as true in the military context buried >> tucker: i just a little bit mesmerized by this question that it is patriotic to support ukraine. speaking for myself, i have no allegiance to either one. i don't have a deep interest, actually, in either one, no connection whatsoever, don't speak the leg, haven't been there. but why is it that supporting ukraine is your duty as an american citizen? generally comes from? >> i think it's been a product of the last generation of hubris, the neoconservative dominance and essentially getting disconnected from regular americans interests. i think it is really important for us to be strong in the world and to, you know, defend our interests, but with got to be clear about those and really connect very directly to american interests, and again that's really about asia. it is where the future of the world is going to be determined and eastern europe, particularly ukraine, is not -- it is not critical to that and it's actually distracting us. so i think it's a product of the hubris and people kind of drinking the kool-aid, and acting as if there are no constraints and they are kind of paying the price with other people's lives and money, frankly. >> tucker: just for context for our viewers. they may not be familiar with the fantastic book, you're not an isolationist, you think united states has an important role to play in the world, you're not saying withdraw from everything, you are saying no, we're just not looking in the right place. >> yeah. i mean, my instincts honestly are not interventionist, probably one narrow war that i've supported that ever supported in my lifetime, the initial against the taliban in afghanistan, but he think the reality, looking at the world clear-eyed and really connecting to america's interests has to lead you to say we can't leave the world economy to china's mercy, it's not you she's in pain, if the size of the economy there, the size of the military they are building at the very clear sense we are getting and you've reported on abundantly, which is what it's going to me for our prosperity at our liberties, we are all going to be working for china if we allow that to happen and i think the effective with the biden administration is doing but even talking about ten to maybe even 50,000 soldiers additionally towards eastern europe, that's a one-to-one trade-off. that is a catastrophic attentional mistake if it's true. but it seems like that's the vibe, and a lot of the people in the elite if he had administration, the senior ranks of the of administration, they really believe it and i don't question their integrity necessarily but i do question their judgment. >> tucker: nicely put. wait to see her tonight, thank you. >> thanks, tucker buried >> tucker: because media creations never die, they live forever, the creepy laura was back in court. >> federal prosecutors reminded the court today that cpl is accused of stealing $300,000 from the woman who made him famous. remember the only reason cpl was invited on cnn and nbc every night to bash then-president trump because he represented stormy daniels, who wrote a book about her dealings with donald trump. the problem is that while cpl was getting famous, even talk about his own potential presidential run, his law firm was broke and he could no longer afford to pay for his high-end cars, luxury vacations, and southern california beach houses. so he allegedly began stealing money from his clients, including stormy daniels. prosecutors say he forged her signature on a document that redirected her book advance into his bank account. if defense attorneys say the case is nothing more than a contract dispute and it's notable that former trumpet lawyer michael cohen was also in court today. you'll recall he pled guilty to violating campaign finance laws by paying stormy daniels to stay quiet about an alleged affair with trump back in 2006. on his way into court today cpl said this. >> i heard about some podcasts that he's got. he should have called it mia culprit. he's an absolute dirtbag, dumber than a box of rocks. >> cpl was all ready convicted of defrauding nike, he has yet to begin serving his time for that, but he is now suing the federal bureau of persons. he was mistreated, including only being allowed one book. trump's the art of the deal. tucker buried >> tucker: he's got chutzpah, you've got to give it to him. trace gallagher, great to see you tonight. if quick program note, the season one finale for documentay series is out this week. it's called "hungary versus soros: the fight for civilization." soros was highly distressed that we made this, called his name's, made threats, but george soros is a huge and significant player in world affairs, he doesn't want you to talk about him. we have the right to, and we did. you can watch exclusive preview right now. you can get 40 days free of fox nation by going to tuckercarlson.com. well, a group of censored physicians and scientists convened in washington today to have an honest conversation about the coronavirus. ♪ ♪ [ sigh ] not gonna happen. that's it. i'm calling kohler about their walk-in bath. my name is ken. how may i help you? 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why is anyone who does say it censored? what the hell is going on here? senator ron johnson serves wisconsin, one of the very few people in the entire u.s. congress willing to ask that question. he joins us today. thank you for coming on and for doing what you did today. what stuck out? what did you learn today? >> well, i actually sought out a second opinion very early in the pandemic, so i've been connected to this global network of eminently qualified doctors and medical researchers and scientists that have just had a different opinion on the current virus, on the disease, on the vaccines, on our response, and i'm hoping what the american public learned, those that watched it, if that these eminently qualified individuals have a different approach, different opinion that's not as divisive, isn't as insane as our approach has been and quite honestly isn't as deadly. anybody that looks at our response, you know, mismanaged by anthony fauci, you look at the fact that 889,000 americans are dead. we ranked 22nd in terms of deaths per million, over 2600. sweden is i think in the 70s at 1500. so the fact of the matter is we should have been exploring and researching early treatment and i certainly learned from doctors who have been treating, having the courage and compassion to treat covid that it's entirely treatable disease, probably hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives that didn't have to, but i also hope that people start looking at -- if you're going to get a second opinion, go to a doctor who actually has the courage and ofe a but just make all these pronouncements, say they are science as they ignore science. >> tucker: may be a longer answer than the minute we have, but have you reached a conclusion on why from the very beginning they have discouraged treatment of the disease and basically told people wait until you're almost dead to show up at the hospital? is there an explanation for that? >> i have my suspicions. you can take a look at the money approach. the only drugs that the health agencies have recommended art -- they start about 500 bucks a pop going up to about 3500. all novel drugs produced by the pharma companies where as ones that they've trashed that have decades worth of very good safety profiles, they completely ignored, but these things are often pennies are dosed. you go figure that. >> tucker: it's unbelievable. senator ron johnson, a brave voice on this question, thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >> tucker: here's one of the sadder stories, which we did more of these. scott duncan is a fire pilot, he has filed a religious exemption to the military's vaccine mandate. it has not been approved, right now it's on appeal. so for the u.s. military has issued just two religious exemptions total. if mr. dunkin's appeal does not succeed, he will be discharged from the military and lose hundreds of experienced pilots due to this mandate. thanks so much for coming on and i think of the experienced pilots that the u.s. military, the marine corps, this country stands to lose. if got to be in the top quartile for experience, 1 of 300 combat missions, over 200 carrier landings. if got to kind of wonder who at the military is prioritizing a vaccine over that kind of experience defending the country. but what's your conclusion? >> thank you, sir. thank you for the opportunity to join you tonight. specifically be able to convey our personal experiences just understand that as an active duty service member, these views are not held by the united states marine corps or the department of defense, but we do believe that yes, we have a reasonable argument. we've asked our immediately as well as our congressional leadership to inquire us to really the cost-benefit analysis of several hundred very qualified aviators. the average time for those aviators is 14 years and also to just consider the second and third order effects and consequences of what they have to offer. you know, i am not unique in my situation. there are many incredible qualified individuals with a tremendous amount of experience, and will believe that that can be a detriment to national defense. >> tucker: you could make a lot more flying a corporate or for the airlines then you make now. you've got to think you're doing this for a reason, a noble reason. let me ask you about the grounds of the exemption that you're requesting. it's a religious exemption. >> yes, sir. >> tucker: how would you characterize your -- the problems you have with the vaccine? >> the problems we had personally with the vaccine, we understand there's reasonable disagreements. we disagree with the pedigree and the technology maturation over time. that's one issue. the other is just a conviction by the holy spirit and i believe we are led in that fashion. we do not have any piece about the vaccine itself we also believe we have an inherent right to our own body. we believe that is that is our right, it is conferred with us from the maker and creator and that is the foundation of the constitution of which we defend. so those are all the bases primarily of the religious accommodation that has been both requested, denied, and then subsequently appealed. >> tucker: i just -- i cannot resist asking you, 300 combat missions, i assume you thought when you flying those and risking your life and landing on carriers that might come the most dangerous thing any human being can do, that you were defending the u.s. constitution, in other words, your right to have your own religious views. didn't you think that? >> yes, sir. we absolutely -- we believe everything we've done an honorable service, as well as what we're doing now, is consistent with those views. that view is just not shared by some leadership within the department of defense and so we believe this is a very reasonable and above reproach way to express our concerns. >> tucker: yeah. you are so restrained and gentlemanly, and i appreciate that but underneath it all was one of the sadder stories ever. so we're certainly rooting for you, so thank you very much for coming on sunday. >> thank you for having me, sir. >> tucker: of course. people are dying across the country from violent crime. that crime is the result of policy decisions that democratic leaders made. because it does -- downplaying and dismissing those deaths? it's an amazing thing to watch and we have the tape and the stats. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ i may be close to retirement, but i'm as busy as ever. and thanks to voya, i'm confident about my future. voya provides guidance for the right investments. they make me feel like i've got it all under control. voya. be confident to and through retirement. one of my favorite supplements is qunol turmeric. turmeric helps with healthy joints voya. be confident and inflammation support. unlike regular turmeric supplements qunol's superior absorption helps me get the full benefits of turmeric. the brand i trust is qunol. >> tucker: one of the great mysteries of our age and the trans jetty ideology -- women and girls are not a category any longer, is where the self-described defenders of women and girls, they have been silent because they have been taking money to shut up. she will not be quiet, she is a lifelong feminist, used to work at the aclu, stubbornly continues to believe in the truth and human biology, she's been relent leslie attacked for that. she's a very brave person and very articulate. we sit down with her for a long interview on "tucker carlson today." absolutely worth watching. here's part of it. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: you said that this is an assault on language, that's one of the first things you said. what you mean by that? >> let's take for example pregnant people. we are seeing a lot of people, including members of the united states congress, using link which like pregnant people. now, every human being knows that only women can get pregnant, but for some reason, we are seeing a shift in language where people are required to socially coerce to say things like pregnant people. now, unconcerned because i think it's very easy for conservatives to brush that off as lunatic leftism. to be clear, it is insane to refer to pregnant people. it's absolutely ridiculous, and we can and should market mercilessly. but it would be a mistake to just dismiss it as lunacy on the left. >> tucker: yes! only the left understands the importance of linkage. i've always thought this. sorry, i'm interrupting. >> that's okay. so it would be a mistake to dismiss it as left as lunacy because it is a very deliberate move to persuade and manipulate americans to dissociate our minds with the material reality of our physical bodies. if we can persuade americans that people get pregnant, then we have separated pregnancy from femaleness. >> tucker: there are a lot of radical elements in american policy, i don't want to single and went up at the transgender activism has got to be near the top of the radical miss just for their willingness to get right in people's faces, call their employers, there have been threats of physical violence. >> in terms of arguments we are dealing with a marginalized community. really? a marginalized community can get people fired, persuade an entire industry, the journalist -- journalism to cave on journalistic integrity by being completely disingenuous. "washington post" and "new york times," msnbc, they are completely disingenuous when they report on this. "washington post," democracy dies in darkness. really? they are completely disingenuous, and they are reporting on this because an industry persuaded them to do it. marginalized immunity? if got the entire -- if got the dash you've got the dash if got the president. issuing executive order the first day upon taking office to redefine sex to include gender identity throughout the federal of of law. marginalized? i don't think so. >> tucker: probably fair to say she doesn't have any friends who watch fox news. she may not have any friends at all after they see this interview, but she did it anyway because she thinks the subject is that important. it's not just some crazy thing the left is doing, it's the wholesale transformation of our civilization. and we think she's right. you can watch the whole conversation on fox nation, get it for free at tuckercarlson.com. so violent crime in major cities is completely out of control. thousands are dying, americans, dying. this week in chicago, for example, an 8-year-old girl was murdered, here's the local news report telling what happened. >> 8-year-old melissa ortega dead after being struck by stray gunfire, according to police. witnesses say her mom was seen covered in blood outside this bank along west 25th street. detective say they were dropped off to the area and confronted, it 26 old man as he was walking out of the store. the man was shot in the lower back. bullets also struck this honda odyssey, shattering the rear windshield glass. according to detectives, another 8-year-old girl was inside at the time. fortunately unharmed. at least five kids under the age of 18 have been shot and killed here in chicago so far this year. >> tucker: but it's not just chicago, it's nationwide. ten of this country because of its biggest cities have set all-time homicide records last year. all-time, including the dangerous apostasy 70s it's worse now than it's ever been ever in american history. but it's cnn that's not a problem at all, it was caused by the patrons of the democratic party so of course they are angry at fox news for bringing it up. watch. >> yes, there is a crime problem but the way it's described on fox, you'd be afraid to leave her house. >> i kind of think of it as an instagram filter. you start with a real image and then you take the filter and you pump it up a thousand percent and what you're left with is distorted, it no longer reflects reality. >> this goal of this kind of coverage is to freak people out, to cause them to live in fear. ironically, a lot of the fearmongering is about the things that are not actually mortal threats and then there is ignoring the things that are modal threats. you know, covid isn't real, and climate change isn't real. i would argue -- to me, anyway, those things are scarier or have been scarier at various points in the past couple years. >> tucker: the dumbest person on television, the mask and vax lady who wants you to fear climate change, is calling other people fearmongers. kind of hilarious and also awful. candace owens is not dishonest, she's brutally honest, we are always grateful to have her in the show. thanks so much for coming on. so talking about crime, about people dying by the thousands, is now immoral? >> it's like watching cnn offer commentary on cnn, it's ridiculous. it cnn and literally nobody is watching and the viewership is abysmal and almost negligible. the commentary here is awful enough that we should talk about it. it really speaks to what i've been talking about the last three years, especially to black america. liberals show up with their signs, extracurricular activity, black lives matter, defined the police! let's get rid of everything in these inner cities and lets the criminals run three! black america, you are going to be the one left picking up the pieces come it's going to be or neighborhoods that are destroyed, your children that cannot walk to school without fear that there's going to be a gang member on the corner that's going to shoot them. it's going to be your babysitting and cars and may be shot by a stray bullet. we have seen the story over and over and over again. where the liberals? their sing is not as big of a deal, 25% more, who cares at all, we are way more focused on climate change very does not reek of weak isn't -- i really do challenge these people to go tote gnomic door to door in chicago and knocking people during its claim to the met climate change is more of a threat. climate change, tucker, by the way, depending on what generation from, my generation it was global warming, the ice caps are going to melt. that didn't happen. generation before it was goebel cooling, they told everybody it's going to get so cold that everything is going to freeze over. that didn't happen. you had a generation that thought that there would be acid rain, you know, these models keep predicting, that never happened. let's focus on that and not the individual's that are quite literally being slaughtered in the streets every day americans and their suffering because of the very policies and the people we are looking at on this panel. >> tucker: that's totally right and what's interesting is these are people who see every thinker a partisan lens i've often heard liberals say well, corona is coming mostly right wing republicans, so that's fine. this violence surge is overwhelmingly killing the democratic base when speaking for myself, that's not fine. i don't care who they vote for, they are americans, they are dying and you would think that the people representing their party would maybe care more than i do, but they care much less. it's so weird. >> it is weird and that's why you're when you're looking at the polls are senior not the only ones paying attention. you saw this in the president's press conference. they act body flatter, they are turning away from you, there showing that black americans are looking in the street and sings clinics, you can go shoot dope in the streets of new york city and come out. good luck with your kid is walking by in by in the skies high on methamphetamine and opioids. it doesn't matter because the democrats are trying to make these cities more livable for the drug dealers in the criminals, not people that are asked the paying taxes and trying to make a decent living, so yes, they are going to suffer at the polls and there's no way they can move the goalpost that is going to change that fact come november. >> tucker: you've got to be on the side of decent people are trying hard, no matter who they vote for, and these people are not on the side of decent people trying hard, they are on the side of dede ands and violence and totally antisocial elements, it's really bad. candace owens, great to see you, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so parents across the country, not in political people, just people who love their kids, standing up against school districts were trying to destroy their kids. we have shocking details about one denver school talking to kindergartners about blm and transgender ideology and somehow the school is still open, has not yet been shut down. we fervently hope it will be. we've got details next. ♪ ♪ hearing is important to living life to the fullest. that's why inside every miracle-ear store, you'll find a better life. it all starts with the most innovative technology. like the new miracle-earmini, available exclusively at miracle-ear. so small that no one will see it, but you'll notice the difference. and now, miracle-ear is offering a thirty-day risk-free trial. you can experience better hearing with no obligation. call 1-800-miracle right now and experience a better life. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: a new bill just past the state senate in mississippi that would ban public schools from teaching racism, in other words from teaching that anyone raise is superior to or inferior to any other. you would think the other 49 states would have similar laws in the book because of course he would never teach rasul gnomic racial superiority and school, that's crazy, antithetical for everything the country stands for see you think everyone in mississippi would be thrilled by this, but no. democrats in the statehouse worked so angry they rocked out -- walked up to protest legislation, which tells you everything about where we are right now. meanwhile, in denver, colorado, an elementary school has announced a plan to engage kindergartners and first grade students in a blm week of action, of course the group that's against the nuclear family. it will include "transgender firm include civil's." is "to disrupt the notion of family dynamics right. how does this continue, wise the school still open? good question. horace, thanks so much for coming on. first to the bill in mississippi. unless i am misreading it, i think it's very straightforward, you're not allowed to teach that one race as better or worse than the other, kind of a foundational principle, i thought, in america, all decent people believe that, i certainly do. who could be against that? >> well, america came together with what is called the civil rights movement for precisely this principle, that all americans are going to be equal and treated as such under the law, the way that our founders actually intended, with our constitution. the irony to me is that my grandparents and your grandparents and the grandparents of a generation understood this concept and now we get to us and suddenly there are people that actually want not jim crow 2.0. they want jim crow. government is going to prefer some groups over other groups precisely because of their race. this is a terrible setback and the very month that we set aside to celebrate martin luther king, we should really be saddened by this effort on the part of those legislators. >> tucker: it just ends at rwanda, how is this going to wind up? what's the end stage? does not think that it all. i have to ask, if the school's teaching kindergarten and first graders the blm principles, the nuclear family must be disbanded, why is the school still open? that's so poisonous and so evil, why is there not a considered effort to shut the school down like immediately? >> this is remarkable, what i've been witnessing. so many of the bedrock institutions of america are being literally challenged by actions of progressives. you can say that some on the right have been anti-public education, but there's been no poison. no poison like this. in the law, there's a term called chilling effect, when things are said or done that cause people to feel comfortable acting in certain ways. tonight i'm going to tell you there's a thrilling effect. when the government promises to investigate people criticize crt. when all of big tech sides with proponents of racial segregation and then they disavow or shadow ban those who advocate equality. it's the thrilling effect. >> tucker: that has to be a redline, you can put up with that, and i hope that they won't. horace cooper, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: here's a very weird story, monkey is transported to a lab linked to the cdc got away after the truck crashed, several escape, they were caught and killed. what is the story about exactly? what kind of research was being done on these monkeys? what is this? we have details straight ahead. ♪ ♪ >> enrollment episode of tucker carlson originals. >> tucker: george soros is a billionaire currency trader who spent decades waging a kind of war. one unlikely countries fighting back. that country is hungry. >> watches tucker ghost one-on-one with prime minister and exposes the truth behind the left's globalist ideals. >> tucker: so your success is the challenge to their worldview? >> tucker carlson originals, hungry versus soros come streaming wednesday on fox nation. sign up today. >> tucker: here's a weird story. on friday night, truck carrying 100 lab monkeys crashed in pennsylvania. a number of them escaped. three of them. cdc showed up immediately with other authorities, captured him, and kill them immediately. why? what is the story about? our friend trace gallagher is back. he is on the story for us. >> these were monkeys use in medical studies flown into the u.s. from eastern africa. as you said, they were put on a truck headed for an unknown research lab. the truck crashed in rural pennsylvania and crates full of monkeys spilled onto a road. three of the monkeys got loose and state troopers quickly notified residents not to look for them. saying, "it is hard to say how they would react to a human or approaching them." but finding monkeys was clearly an all-hands-on-deck situation because state troopers, the cdc, the health department, and pennsylvania game commission wall involved, which made one resident very curious. he said, "it bears, coyotes, deer all the time. a little 3-pound monkey doesn't scare me, but why are they so concerned about it is what concerns me." another resident who saw the crest said she went to help the truck driver who told her he was hauling cats. she looked into a case saying hey, katie when he monkey popped up. the woman was on hold by cbc to monitor herself for any cold-like symptoms. the cdc also told her the monkeys would be monitored for 31 days. but when missing monkeys were found, they were not monitored, they were killed. so the cdc has not said why. in the cdc has not said what the lab they were heading to is actually researching. though the cdc did tell us the monkeys could transmit deadly viruses. a lot of questions in this. getting very few answers. >> tucker: why they are so concerned is what concerns me. thank you for that story, trace gallagher. fascinating. featuring art interview with her. that is online. we highly recommend it. we are at a time. but the great sean hannity takes over next. >> sean: you need me to stay and fear over the mystery of the monkeys. appreciate it. it is a fascinating story. why did they kill them? tucker, thank you. and 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our borders are racist, shut up, putin stooge. but wait a second, why is it disloyal to side with russia but loyal to side with ukraine? they're both foreign countries that don't care anything about the united states. kind of strange. it's all that absurd performance but it's all they've got any hand. the fact is ukraine is strategically irrelevant to the united states, no rational person could defend a war with russia over ukraine. of nobody thinks a war like that would make america safer or stronger or more prosperous. if you take a look at our economy recently, dangerous levels of inflation, it workforce in disarray, wildly chaotic swings in financial markets if you haven't noticed. joining a conflict in each in europe fix any of that? of course not. it'll make it worse. if the neocons aren't restrained, and soon, americans are going to be a lot poorer. so why are they doing this? that's a complex question. hubris, stupidity, the damage psychological makeup of our leaders, massive lobbying campaigns by ukrainian politicians and american defense contractors. all of those factors play a role in this. no tragedy has a single cause. but what's not at all complicated is who benefits from our conflict with russia. china benefits, period. the chinese government is the only certain winner here. can give you many examples to illustrate this but consider the latest economic sanctions the white house has proposed against russia. the biden a administration may use something called the foreign direct product rule to cut off russia's supply of dummy conductors made with american technology. this would, in the hopeful assessment of "the washington post" "potentially deprive russian citizens of some smartphones, tabloids and video game consoles." so depriving russian citizens is good, we are told because russian citizens are bad. okay, but one of the long-term effects on us? russians are still going to have smartphones. it will just get their components somewhere else, meaning from china. chinese a party pledged to help and they have every incentive to make good on that promise. in other words, the biden a administration succeeded in continuing to drive are two main global rivals closer to a permanent alliance with one another. how does that help america? well, it doesn't. over time it's dangerous and not just militarily. the only reason the u.s. government can enforce international sanctions is because the u.s. dollar is the world's reserve currency. russia and china don't like this, obviously, so let's say they convinced other global powers that the u.s. government was abusing its monopoly on monetary control. they do it to us, they might do it to you, they would say, and in other countries decided to drop the u.s. dollar in favor of a new currency. where would that leave us? suddenly the united states would no longer be able to run an economy based on debt. we would be impoverished immediately overnight. has no one in washington thought of this? apparently not. imposing tough new sanctions every few months feeds their moral vanity, it makes them feel like good people. what fools they are. both parties, by the way, participate in this, preening about sanctions on television is a lot easier than improving lives of people in your own country, so that's what they do. republican senator joni ernst of iowa telling you that protecting ukraine's sacred borders is much more important than, say, saving americans in des moines from overdosing on drugs. watch. >> so we do need to go ahead and impose sanctions on rationale. we need to show them that we mean business and we will be there for ukraine should they invade. certainly we need to make sure that any defensive aid is in the hands of the ukrainians as well as as much lethal aid as we can provide at this time. >> tucker: those are our leaders. totally ignorant. just reading a script. it's nice to hear someone in the press ask the obvious follow-up, which would be why exactly senator ernst do you believe it is so vital to send more lethal aid to ukraine into "go ahead and impose more sanctions on russia"? why? how would she answer the question? will never know how she answer because no one in the media would ever ask her. if reporters are the most bovine of the herd animals. if the other kids say it's -- journalists feel that way about everything, but especially about armed conflict. the longest war in american history ended this fall when we left afghanistan. the new consensus in washington is we need another war, now. and that is especially prevalent in tv news. watch this teleprompter jacket try to push our russia-hitting secretary of state into hating russia even more. >> we are proceeding on both paths of the same time. the choices bottom reboot is. >> what are you negotiating? if russia's demand's are not starters -- president biden has already said ukraine is not going to join nato anytime soon, you've made this offer a reciprocal military exercises, what's left to talk about? >> tucker: what's left to talk about? too much diplomacy, mr. secretary, not enough killing! that's her position, apparently. at this point, every project in his life has does that, collapsed into disaster from his personal affairs to the war in iraq, which he promoted endlessly. having come to middle age, he is unequivocally failure. he's looking for one last war to redeem it all. he's thinking conflict with nuclear armed russia could be that war. watch. >> we should be arming the ukrainians like crazy. we should be preparing for guerrilla warfare. if the russians go -- i think the most important thing we can do right now is to lay out a menu of sanctions so that putin knows exactly what's going to happen to him if he goes over the line because right now with these vague threats he can be left with the feeling, well, maybe the u.s. and the europeans, maybe we are not really going to do anything. >> tucker: again you have to ask yourself, why is this more "patriotic" to take one countries side than the other countries side? we have no obligation to defend any country, either one of these countries. neither one is american, neither one has the same interest as we do. why is it one to support -- wrong to support one and not the other? what's wrong is to support either one of them. their interests are not the same as ours, they are very different. he doesn't care. "arm the ukrainians, prepare for guerrilla warfare!" only a man completely insulated from the consequences of his blood lust could talk like that. there will always be another think tank job for him and people like him. but what's politico's excuse? the political blog has been pushing for war in ukraine for months now. why? what's in it for them? let's see. a few days ago they publish this terrifying had headline. russia could at any point launch any attack in ukraine. the piece goes on to promise that "experts and policymakers are not preparing for a range of escalatory measures." well, that sounds scary, we better send aliens more in military hardware to ukraine right away. beneath the headline, you learn why they are interested. because the story is "presented by lockheed martin." in other words, defense contractors think it is high time to spend much more on defense contracting in ukraine. let it go is happy to make their case in exchange for money. over "the washington post" you may have seen this op-ed with this headline. "biden must show that the united states dan's ready to support ukraine militarily if necessary." that piece was written by a man called michael vickers. who's michael vickers? among other things, michael vickers sits on the board of the weapons contractor bae systems. that would seem relevant because war with russia would be potentially, in any case, highly profitable for them. but somehow "the washington post" didn't bother to tell readers about this. it remained undisclosed. so how does this look from across the world? welcome of the chinese much be watching this happen with their jaws open, completely delighted. they can't believe their good fortune. they watched as the entire political leadership class of the united states runs at full speed in the wrong direction. away from asia, which is so clearly the future, and towards the murky past on the fringes of eastern europe. ukraine, russia! and the chinese must be wondering how could these people be so stupid and so self-destructive? warning about this for a very long time, former trump administration dod official and we are happy to have them join us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. it does seem clear if you take three steps back and tune out the noise about our secret alliance with ukraine, not sure where that comes from, but step away and look at the world, it's pretty obvious the people running things are looking in the wrong direction. >> absolutely, tucker. great to be with you. china is by far the biggest challenge to american interests in the way that you're talking about it. if what's really going to affect our economy, our lives, our prosperity, our freedoms, and the future of the world is going to be settled in asia. it's going to be over 50% of global gdp. europe is moving down to 10% and i think you're right, the ukraine situation may concern us to some degree but it's far, far from the most significant thing in the fundamental reality is we have to make choices. you talk about the currency but it's just as true in the military context buried >> tucker: i just a little bit mesmerized by this question that it is patriotic to support ukraine. speaking for myself, i have no allegiance to either one. i don't have a deep interest, actually, in either one, no connection whatsoever, don't speak the leg, haven't been there. but why is it that supporting ukraine is your duty as an american citizen? generally comes from? >> i think it's been a product of the last generation of hubris, the neoconservative dominance and essentially getting disconnected from regular americans interests. i think it is really important for us to be strong in the world and to, you know, defend our interests, but with got to be clear about those and really connect very directly to american interests, and again that's really about asia. it is where the future of the world is going to be determined and eastern europe, particularly ukraine, is not -- it is not critical to that and it's actually distracting us. so i think it's a product of the hubris and people kind of drinking the kool-aid, and acting as if there are no constraints and they are kind of paying the price with other people's lives and money, frankly. >> tucker: just for context for our viewers. they may not be familiar with the fantastic book, you're not an isolationist, you think united states has an important role to play in the world, you're not saying withdraw from everything, you are saying no, we're just not looking in the right place. >> yeah. i mean, my instincts honestly are not interventionist, probably one narrow war that i've supported that ever supported in my lifetime, the initial against the taliban in afghanistan, but he think the reality, looking at the world clear-eyed and really connecting to america's interests has to lead you to say we can't leave the world economy to china's mercy, it's not you she's in pain, if the size of the economy there, the size of the military they are building at the very clear sense we are getting and you've reported on abundantly, which is what it's going to me for our prosperity at our liberties, we are all going to be working for china if we allow that to happen and i think the effective with the biden administration is doing but even talking about ten to maybe even 50,000 soldiers additionally towards eastern europe, that's a one-to-one trade-off. that is a catastrophic attentional mistake if it's true. but it seems like that's the vibe, and a lot of the people in the elite if he had administration, the senior ranks of the of administration, they really believe it and i don't question their integrity necessarily but i do question their judgment. >> tucker: nicely put. wait to see her tonight, thank you. >> thanks, tucker buried >> tucker: because media creations never die, they live forever, the creepy laura was back in court. >> federal prosecutors reminded the court today that cpl is accused of stealing $300,000 from the woman who made him famous. remember the only reason cpl was invited on cnn and nbc every night to bash then-president trump because he represented stormy daniels, who wrote a book about her dealings with donald trump. the problem is that while cpl was getting famous, even talk about his own potential presidential run, his law firm was broke and he could no longer afford to pay for his high-end cars, luxury vacations, and southern california beach houses. so he allegedly began stealing money from his clients, including stormy daniels. prosecutors say he forged her signature on a document that redirected her book advance into his bank account. if defense attorneys say the case is nothing more than a contract dispute and it's notable that former trumpet lawyer michael cohen was also in court today. you'll recall he pled guilty to violating campaign finance laws by paying stormy daniels to stay quiet about an alleged affair with trump back in 2006. on his way into court today cpl said this. >> i heard about some podcasts that he's got. he should have called it mia culprit. he's an absolute dirtbag, dumber than a box of rocks. >> cpl was all ready convicted of defrauding nike, he has yet to begin serving his time for that, but he is now suing the federal bureau of persons. he was mistreated, including only being allowed one book. trump's the art of the deal. tucker buried >> tucker: he's got chutzpah, you've got to give it to him. trace gallagher, great to see you tonight. if quick program note, the season one finale for documentay series is out this week. it's called "hungary versus soros: the fight for civilization." soros was highly distressed that we made this, called his name's, made threats, but george soros is a huge and significant player in world affairs, he doesn't want you to talk about him. we have the right to, and we did. you can watch exclusive preview right now. you can get 40 days free of fox nation by going to tuckercarlson.com. well, a group of censored physicians and scientists convened in washington today to have an honest conversation about the coronavirus. ♪ ♪ [ sigh ] not gonna happen. that's it. i'm calling kohler about their walk-in bath. my name is ken. how may i help you? 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why is anyone who does say it censored? what the hell is going on here? senator ron johnson serves wisconsin, one of the very few people in the entire u.s. congress willing to ask that question. he joins us today. thank you for coming on and for doing what you did today. what stuck out? what did you learn today? >> well, i actually sought out a second opinion very early in the pandemic, so i've been connected to this global network of eminently qualified doctors and medical researchers and scientists that have just had a different opinion on the current virus, on the disease, on the vaccines, on our response, and i'm hoping what the american public learned, those that watched it, if that these eminently qualified individuals have a different approach, different opinion that's not as divisive, isn't as insane as our approach has been and quite honestly isn't as deadly. anybody that looks at our response, you know, mismanaged by anthony fauci, you look at the fact that 889,000 americans are dead. we ranked 22nd in terms of deaths per million, over 2600. sweden is i think in the 70s at 1500. so the fact of the matter is we should have been exploring and researching early treatment and i certainly learned from doctors who have been treating, having the courage and compassion to treat covid that it's entirely treatable disease, probably hundreds of thousands of people lost their lives that didn't have to, but i also hope that people start looking at -- if you're going to get a second opinion, go to a doctor who actually has the courage and ofe a but just make all these pronouncements, say they are science as they ignore science. >> tucker: may be a longer answer than the minute we have, but have you reached a conclusion on why from the very beginning they have discouraged treatment of the disease and basically told people wait until you're almost dead to show up at the hospital? is there an explanation for that? >> i have my suspicions. you can take a look at the money approach. the only drugs that the health agencies have recommended art -- they start about 500 bucks a pop going up to about 3500. all novel drugs produced by the pharma companies where as ones that they've trashed that have decades worth of very good safety profiles, they completely ignored, but these things are often pennies are dosed. you go figure that. >> tucker: it's unbelievable. senator ron johnson, a brave voice on this question, thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >> tucker: here's one of the sadder stories, which we did more of these. scott duncan is a fire pilot, he has filed a religious exemption to the military's vaccine mandate. it has not been approved, right now it's on appeal. so for the u.s. military has issued just two religious exemptions total. if mr. dunkin's appeal does not succeed, he will be discharged from the military and lose hundreds of experienced pilots due to this mandate. thanks so much for coming on and i think of the experienced pilots that the u.s. military, the marine corps, this country stands to lose. if got to be in the top quartile for experience, 1 of 300 combat missions, over 200 carrier landings. if got to kind of wonder who at the military is prioritizing a vaccine over that kind of experience defending the country. but what's your conclusion? >> thank you, sir. thank you for the opportunity to join you tonight. specifically be able to convey our personal experiences just understand that as an active duty service member, these views are not held by the united states marine corps or the department of defense, but we do believe that yes, we have a reasonable argument. we've asked our immediately as well as our congressional leadership to inquire us to really the cost-benefit analysis of several hundred very qualified aviators. the average time for those aviators is 14 years and also to just consider the second and third order effects and consequences of what they have to offer. you know, i am not unique in my situation. there are many incredible qualified individuals with a tremendous amount of experience, and will believe that that can be a detriment to national defense. >> tucker: you could make a lot more flying a corporate or for the airlines then you make now. you've got to think you're doing this for a reason, a noble reason. let me ask you about the grounds of the exemption that you're requesting. it's a religious exemption. >> yes, sir. >> tucker: how would you characterize your -- the problems you have with the vaccine? >> the problems we had personally with the vaccine, we understand there's reasonable disagreements. we disagree with the pedigree and the technology maturation over time. that's one issue. the other is just a conviction by the holy spirit and i believe we are led in that fashion. we do not have any piece about the vaccine itself we also believe we have an inherent right to our own body. we believe that is that is our right, it is conferred with us from the maker and creator and that is the foundation of the constitution of which we defend. so those are all the bases primarily of the religious accommodation that has been both requested, denied, and then subsequently appealed. >> tucker: i just -- i cannot resist asking you, 300 combat missions, i assume you thought when you flying those and risking your life and landing on carriers that might come the most dangerous thing any human being can do, that you were defending the u.s. constitution, in other words, your right to have your own religious views. didn't you think that? >> yes, sir. we absolutely -- we believe everything we've done an honorable service, as well as what we're doing now, is consistent with those views. that view is just not shared by some leadership within the department of defense and so we believe this is a very reasonable and above reproach way to express our concerns. >> tucker: yeah. you are so restrained and gentlemanly, and i appreciate that but underneath it all was one of the sadder stories ever. so we're certainly rooting for you, so thank you very much for coming on sunday. >> thank you for having me, sir. >> tucker: of course. people are dying across the country from violent crime. that crime is the result of policy decisions that democratic leaders made. because it does -- downplaying and dismissing those deaths? it's an amazing thing to watch and we have the tape and the stats. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ i may be close to retirement, but i'm as busy as ever. and thanks to voya, i'm confident about my future. voya provides guidance for the right investments. they make me feel like i've got it all under control. voya. be confident to and through retirement. one of my favorite supplements is qunol turmeric. turmeric helps with healthy joints voya. be confident and inflammation support. unlike regular turmeric supplements qunol's superior absorption helps me get the full benefits of turmeric. the brand i trust is qunol. >> tucker: one of the great mysteries of our age and the trans jetty ideology -- women and girls are not a category any longer, is where the self-described defenders of women and girls, they have been silent because they have been taking money to shut up. she will not be quiet, she is a lifelong feminist, used to work at the aclu, stubbornly continues to believe in the truth and human biology, she's been relent leslie attacked for that. she's a very brave person and very articulate. we sit down with her for a long interview on "tucker carlson today." absolutely worth watching. here's part of it. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: you said that this is an assault on language, that's one of the first things you said. what you mean by that? >> let's take for example pregnant people. we are seeing a lot of people, including members of the united states congress, using link which like pregnant people. now, every human being knows that only women can get pregnant, but for some reason, we are seeing a shift in language where people are required to socially coerce to say things like pregnant people. now, unconcerned because i think it's very easy for conservatives to brush that off as lunatic leftism. to be clear, it is insane to refer to pregnant people. it's absolutely ridiculous, and we can and should market mercilessly. but it would be a mistake to just dismiss it as lunacy on the left. >> tucker: yes! only the left understands the importance of linkage. i've always thought this. sorry, i'm interrupting. >> that's okay. so it would be a mistake to dismiss it as left as lunacy because it is a very deliberate move to persuade and manipulate americans to dissociate our minds with the material reality of our physical bodies. if we can persuade americans that people get pregnant, then we have separated pregnancy from femaleness. >> tucker: there are a lot of radical elements in american policy, i don't want to single and went up at the transgender activism has got to be near the top of the radical miss just for their willingness to get right in people's faces, call their employers, there have been threats of physical violence. >> in terms of arguments we are dealing with a marginalized community. really? a marginalized community can get people fired, persuade an entire industry, the journalist -- journalism to cave on journalistic integrity by being completely disingenuous. "washington post" and "new york times," msnbc, they are completely disingenuous when they report on this. "washington post," democracy dies in darkness. really? they are completely disingenuous, and they are reporting on this because an industry persuaded them to do it. marginalized immunity? if got the entire -- if got the dash you've got the dash if got the president. issuing executive order the first day upon taking office to redefine sex to include gender identity throughout the federal of of law. marginalized? i don't think so. >> tucker: probably fair to say she doesn't have any friends who watch fox news. she may not have any friends at all after they see this interview, but she did it anyway because she thinks the subject is that important. it's not just some crazy thing the left is doing, it's the wholesale transformation of our civilization. and we think she's right. you can watch the whole conversation on fox nation, get it for free at tuckercarlson.com. so violent crime in major cities is completely out of control. thousands are dying, americans, dying. this week in chicago, for example, an 8-year-old girl was murdered, here's the local news report telling what happened. >> 8-year-old melissa ortega dead after being struck by stray gunfire, according to police. witnesses say her mom was seen covered in blood outside this bank along west 25th street. detective say they were dropped off to the area and confronted, it 26 old man as he was walking out of the store. the man was shot in the lower back. bullets also struck this honda odyssey, shattering the rear windshield glass. according to detectives, another 8-year-old girl was inside at the time. fortunately unharmed. at least five kids under the age of 18 have been shot and killed here in chicago so far this year. >> tucker: but it's not just chicago, it's nationwide. ten of this country because of its biggest cities have set all-time homicide records last year. all-time, including the dangerous apostasy 70s it's worse now than it's ever been ever in american history. but it's cnn that's not a problem at all, it was caused by the patrons of the democratic party so of course they are angry at fox news for bringing it up. watch. >> yes, there is a crime problem but the way it's described on fox, you'd be afraid to leave her house. >> i kind of think of it as an instagram filter. you start with a real image and then you take the filter and you pump it up a thousand percent and what you're left with is distorted, it no longer reflects reality. >> this goal of this kind of coverage is to freak people out, to cause them to live in fear. ironically, a lot of the fearmongering is about the things that are not actually mortal threats and then there is ignoring the things that are modal threats. you know, covid isn't real, and climate change isn't real. i would argue -- to me, anyway, those things are scarier or have been scarier at various points in the past couple years. >> tucker: the dumbest person on television, the mask and vax lady who wants you to fear climate change, is calling other people fearmongers. kind of hilarious and also awful. candace owens is not dishonest, she's brutally honest, we are always grateful to have her in the show. thanks so much for coming on. so talking about crime, about people dying by the thousands, is now immoral? >> it's like watching cnn offer commentary on cnn, it's ridiculous. it cnn and literally nobody is watching and the viewership is abysmal and almost negligible. the commentary here is awful enough that we should talk about it. it really speaks to what i've been talking about the last three years, especially to black america. liberals show up with their signs, extracurricular activity, black lives matter, defined the police! let's get rid of everything in these inner cities and lets the criminals run three! black america, you are going to be the one left picking up the pieces come it's going to be or neighborhoods that are destroyed, your children that cannot walk to school without fear that there's going to be a gang member on the corner that's going to shoot them. it's going to be your babysitting and cars and may be shot by a stray bullet. we have seen the story over and over and over again. where the liberals? their sing is not as big of a deal, 25% more, who cares at all, we are way more focused on climate change very does not reek of weak isn't -- i really do challenge these people to go tote gnomic door to door in chicago and knocking people during its claim to the met climate change is more of a threat. climate change, tucker, by the way, depending on what generation from, my generation it was global warming, the ice caps are going to melt. that didn't happen. generation before it was goebel cooling, they told everybody it's going to get so cold that everything is going to freeze over. that didn't happen. you had a generation that thought that there would be acid rain, you know, these models keep predicting, that never happened. let's focus on that and not the individual's that are quite literally being slaughtered in the streets every day americans and their suffering because of the very policies and the people we are looking at on this panel. >> tucker: that's totally right and what's interesting is these are people who see every thinker a partisan lens i've often heard liberals say well, corona is coming mostly right wing republicans, so that's fine. this violence surge is overwhelmingly killing the democratic base when speaking for myself, that's not fine. i don't care who they vote for, they are americans, they are dying and you would think that the people representing their party would maybe care more than i do, but they care much less. it's so weird. >> it is weird and that's why you're when you're looking at the polls are senior not the only ones paying attention. you saw this in the president's press conference. they act body flatter, they are turning away from you, there showing that black americans are looking in the street and sings clinics, you can go shoot dope in the streets of new york city and come out. good luck with your kid is walking by in by in the skies high on methamphetamine and opioids. it doesn't matter because the democrats are trying to make these cities more livable for the drug dealers in the criminals, not people that are asked the paying taxes and trying to make a decent living, so yes, they are going to suffer at the polls and there's no way they can move the goalpost that is going to change that fact come november. >> tucker: you've got to be on the side of decent people are trying hard, no matter who they vote for, and these people are not on the side of decent people trying hard, they are on the side of dede ands and violence and totally antisocial elements, it's really bad. candace owens, great to see you, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so parents across the country, not in political people, just people who love their kids, standing up against school districts were trying to destroy their kids. we have shocking details about one denver school talking to kindergartners about blm and transgender ideology and somehow the school is still open, has not yet been shut down. we fervently hope it will be. we've got details next. ♪ ♪ hearing is important to living life to the fullest. that's why inside every miracle-ear store, you'll find a better life. it all starts with the most innovative technology. like the new miracle-earmini, available exclusively at miracle-ear. so small that no one will see it, but you'll notice the difference. and now, miracle-ear is offering a thirty-day risk-free trial. you can experience better hearing with no obligation. call 1-800-miracle right now and experience a better life. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: a new bill just past the state senate in mississippi that would ban public schools from teaching racism, in other words from teaching that anyone raise is superior to or inferior to any other. you would think the other 49 states would have similar laws in the book because of course he would never teach rasul gnomic racial superiority and school, that's crazy, antithetical for everything the country stands for see you think everyone in mississippi would be thrilled by this, but no. democrats in the statehouse worked so angry they rocked out -- walked up to protest legislation, which tells you everything about where we are right now. meanwhile, in denver, colorado, an elementary school has announced a plan to engage kindergartners and first grade students in a blm week of action, of course the group that's against the nuclear family. it will include "transgender firm include civil's." is "to disrupt the notion of family dynamics right. how does this continue, wise the school still open? good question. horace, thanks so much for coming on. first to the bill in mississippi. unless i am misreading it, i think it's very straightforward, you're not allowed to teach that one race as better or worse than the other, kind of a foundational principle, i thought, in america, all decent people believe that, i certainly do. who could be against that? >> well, america came together with what is called the civil rights movement for precisely this principle, that all americans are going to be equal and treated as such under the law, the way that our founders actually intended, with our constitution. the irony to me is that my grandparents and your grandparents and the grandparents of a generation understood this concept and now we get to us and suddenly there are people that actually want not jim crow 2.0. they want jim crow. government is going to prefer some groups over other groups precisely because of their race. this is a terrible setback and the very month that we set aside to celebrate martin luther king, we should really be saddened by this effort on the part of those legislators. >> tucker: it just ends at rwanda, how is this going to wind up? what's the end stage? does not think that it all. i have to ask, if the school's teaching kindergarten and first graders the blm principles, the nuclear family must be disbanded, why is the school still open? that's so poisonous and so evil, why is there not a considered effort to shut the school down like immediately? >> this is remarkable, what i've been witnessing. so many of the bedrock institutions of america are being literally challenged by actions of progressives. you can say that some on the right have been anti-public education, but there's been no poison. no poison like this. in the law, there's a term called chilling effect, when things are said or done that cause people to feel comfortable acting in certain ways. tonight i'm going to tell you there's a thrilling effect. when the government promises to investigate people criticize crt. when all of big tech sides with proponents of racial segregation and then they disavow or shadow ban those who advocate equality. it's the thrilling effect. >> tucker: that has to be a redline, you can put up with that, and i hope that they won't. horace cooper, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: here's a very weird story, monkey is transported to a lab linked to the cdc got away after the truck crashed, several escape, they were caught and killed. what is the story about exactly? what kind of research was being done on these monkeys? what is this? we have details straight ahead. ♪ ♪ >> enrollment episode of tucker carlson originals. >> tucker: george soros is a billionaire currency trader who spent decades waging a kind of war. one unlikely countries fighting back. that country is hungry. >> watches tucker ghost one-on-one with prime minister and exposes the truth behind the left's globalist ideals. >> tucker: so your success is the challenge to their worldview? >> tucker carlson originals, hungry versus soros come streaming wednesday on fox nation. sign up today. >> tucker: here's a weird story. on friday night, truck carrying 100 lab monkeys crashed in pennsylvania. a number of them escaped. three of them. cdc showed up immediately with other authorities, captured him, and kill them immediately. why? what is the story about? our friend trace gallagher is back. he is on the story for us. >> these were monkeys use in medical studies flown into the u.s. from eastern africa. as you said, they were put on a truck headed for an unknown research lab. the truck crashed in rural pennsylvania and crates full of monkeys spilled onto a road. three of the monkeys got loose and state troopers quickly notified residents not to look for them. saying, "it is hard to say how they would react to a human or approaching them." but finding monkeys was clearly an all-hands-on-deck situation because state troopers, the cdc, the health department, and pennsylvania game commission wall involved, which made one resident very curious. he said, "it bears, coyotes, deer all the time. a little 3-pound monkey doesn't scare me, but why are they so concerned about it is what concerns me." another resident who saw the crest said she went to help the truck driver who told her he was hauling cats. she looked into a case saying hey, katie when he monkey popped up. the woman was on hold by cbc to monitor herself for any cold-like symptoms. the cdc also told her the monkeys would be monitored for 31 days. but when missing monkeys were found, they were not monitored, they were killed. so the cdc has not said why. in the cdc has not said what the lab they were heading to is actually researching. though the cdc did tell us the monkeys could transmit deadly viruses. a lot of questions in this. getting very few answers. >> tucker: why they are so concerned is what concerns me. thank you for that story, trace gallagher. fascinating. featuring art interview with her. that is online. we highly recommend it. we are at a time. but the great sean hannity takes over next. >> sean: you need me to stay and fear over the mystery of the monkeys. appreciate it. it is a fascinating story. why did they kill them? tucker, thank you. and welcome to "hannity" tonight it's a bite and white house implodes, for joe biden. he is lashing out. he called our own peter doocy a "stupid son of a bitch." he once -- he if he disrespected others. of course the rules, they don't apply to joe. in the comments about peter doocy are

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