cassidy on why all of this could mean more pain at the pump for americans. we begin with greg in kiev. greg? >> officials are more assured but still nervous. antony blinken met with his counterpart in a meeting that was called critical. here's a bit of what he said. >> that's the choice that russia faces now. they can choose a path of diplomacy that will lead to conflict and condemnation. >> still a gap remains dangerously wide, sandra. blinken demanding russia pull back its 100-plus troops on the borders with ukraine. lavrov said they didn't intend to invade. and russia wants troops out of eastern your -- ukraine. president zelensky was critical of the president's comments earlier this week. blinken shared information about this meeting with ukraine's foreign minister. sandra, late and developing news this afternoon, u.s. officials have learned that the state department is at least looking at a possible evacuation of u.s. diplomats and families. back to you. >> sandra: what happens if other countries don't step up? anything that president biden can do in that event? >> that's the big worry, sandra. there's divisions and ranks in the last couple case, not just germany but france and other countries are waffling it a bit. yes, the u.s. can go it alone but it depends on nato unity and nato teamwork to get this job done. so there is talk of unity, but again, the longer this drags out, the longer there could be issues, sandra. >> sandra: thanks, greg. as we look at a map of russia, ukraine and the surrounding european countries there, what exactly are the stakes over there and for us here? let's ask rebecca heinrichs. what do you see happening there next? >> i'll tell you what, it's inevitable that russia will do something. the question is at this point is how far is russia going to go back into ukraine? what are the extent of the military operation. you can tell by the president's statement about a minor incursion that it's like this administration has thrown up its hands and thinks it's going to happen. now we're hearing that germany is blocking critical weapons going into the ukraine. so if you don't have germany standing with the nato alliance, there's not a lot we can do at this point. the beginning of the end is when joe biden decided not to sanction nord stream 2 and to allow that go through between germany and russia. at this point all we can do, we can hope the britts keep sending in aid. thank goodness for the britts and the poles. the canadians have sent in special forces. so we can hope other nato allies can do enough to help the ukrainians if something happens. i'm not confident we can stave off anything at this point. >> sandra: what do you see happening on our part, the united states, if germany doesn't step up to the fight? >> at this point, there's not a lot we can do. what biden should have done was leaned hard into germany at the beginning of the administration a year into this. our hands are tied. and so we're going to have to see to the extent of what putin decides to do and reevaluate our relationship with the germans, our relationship with obviously what we're going to do with russia. we can penalize russia to the extent we can. the previous comment is so true, we need to have nato's solidarity if we're going to have nato sanctions. we cannot do that with germany, this administration has not understood the importance of leaning hard even on our allies. do it privately. you don't have to be donald trump. do it privately. this administration really made a major strategic error by throwing in with the germans on nord stream 2. >> sandra: what are the implications for us here at home if putin does indeed invade ukraine? >> i'll tell you what, our primary focus is china. china is the biggest threat to the united states and the american way of life. we have to focus on that region as a primary theater. that means that if we have a war in europe, we're going to be distracted. it's going to be awful for the united states. talk about energy prices is an immediate thing that will hit the american family. so we're distracted again. this is why, you know, not everything is an area where we have to send transparency -- troops and go to war but you have to be smart and make decisions that you don't have a military conflict. it's hard to know how this will affect the american people. it's not good. it's not good across the world. various regions. we have increasing acts of aggression from adversaries. >> sandra: i hear the urgency in your voice. putin has a lot at risk here. we're promising serious economic sanctions on russia if they're to invade. final thought. >> yeah, again, you have to have europeans with us. europeans don't want to be hit in the pocketbook with gas prices yet. the russians can harm them with energy exploitation. we can hit them and punish them and raise the cost of what they're doing. >> sandra: germany is dependent on russia for energy. thanks, rebecca. you just heard it there. mounting concerns for u.s. energy. americans are already suffering under high fuel costs here at home. our next guest says this situation combined with the president's policies will have us paying even more. bill cassidy is a member of the energy and natural resources committee. he joins us now. great to see you, senator. we're already paying $3.30 a gallon at the pump. that is already painful for most families in this country. what do you predict could happen here with not just gasoline prices but oil prices, heating oil? it's costing us more to heat our homes this winter what are the implications of this fight for us here at home? >> yeah, the implication are further fuel inflation, hitting the american family where it hurts. in their heating bill, their gas bill, electric bill and that what takes them to work, in their car. a byproduct of the biden administration's decision to step down american energy to production, to attempt to inhibit the use of canadian tar sands. despite the fact that all of this is produced at a better environmental and a better environmentally than if we get russian gas. the worst policy i'm not sure that they could have done worse than they have done. >> sandra: that is a stark warning. you have wall street looking at the prices. goldman sachs has a prediction of $100 oil. whether or not germany will step up or other allies step up, that is a looming question. i have to tell you, digging in to the oil prices and the oil purchases by this country under this administration, senator, i was blown away. we dug into government data this morning, this is after taking to senator barrasso yesterday, that we have doubled as a country our oil purchases from russia in just the first year of this presidency. under the biden administration. that seems shocking to me. that is the reality of the moment. we're more dependent on foreign nations than just a year ago. >> when it began to inhibit the production of u.s. oil and gas, creating american jobs and the prices of gasoline went up, they go to glasgow and they the climate change summit and they start begging opec and russia to produce more oil. our dollars are going to russia to support their economy so they can do more militarily while we take jobs away from our economy. it is like the worst energy policy you can come up with. that's what they have done. >> sandra: senator cassidy, thanks. notice the big board. the do you closing 450 points. there's big concerns in the market about what is happening. we're watching it. thank you. president biden heading to camp david and meeting with his national security team. so what is the white house saying after these talks happen today? jacqui heinrich is at the white house. what are we hearing? >> president biden knows that reporters want answers on their questions about ukraine. he didn't have time for that this morning after giving remarks on semi conductors. >> the reason we don't have time for questions now, these guys have to get on a plane and go out and do a major announcement in ohio. you guys will ask me about russia and nothing having to do with chips. >> the president makes this short walk from the white house to marine one. he's flying to camp david where he is set to meet with his national security team this weekend. preparations are underway for possible evacuations of americans and ukraine. it's unclear how many are there. lawmaker offices were told the number could be as high as 20,000. >> is there any effort to get a handle how many americans are in the ukraine? with afghanistan, it was an open question. is there a difference this time? >> we don't put a chip in americans and track their movements. >> takes with secretary blinken and russia's foreign minister failed to produce a resolution. they continue next week after russia boasted that the u.s. would submit written responses to their demands. >> why would the u.s. give answers to russia and is the u.s. asking for my written responses from russia? 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>> sandra: just awful. jonathan hunt, thank you. i want to get to sheriff alex villanueva. you heard from the mourners there for brianna kupfer. they say they're scared and angry. they want something done about this. how do you react to that? >> we have to re-assure the public that we're doing everything possible with the resources that we have to make sure that these killers are not walking freely. we have to rely on the prosecution when we arrest the bad apples that they face the consequences of their actions. however right now our struggle with the district attorney, 12,000 cases the first year in office. 12,000 cases we investigated and i guarantee among those people to walk free will be people that will go on to commit more violent crimes. who knows up to including murder. >> sandra: i want to be clear. we called d.a. gascon to join us and he has not responded. when it comes to what can be done about this, very powerful piece written by sean duffy on foxnews.com written about the infiltration of woke d.a.s. he says it will not be easy to fix. saying the woke army of activist prosecutors is on the rise and the goal is not rule of law or safety. that's scary. you heard it from those citizens there. we're dependent on voters and leadership to turn it around. when you have d.a. gascon in charge there, you're dealing with the effects of a hiring freeze when it comes to your police force. you have him vowing that his priority is police accountability. >> well, we have the governor picking up trash around the rail yard because, you know, the rash of rail thefts that are plaguing union pacific rail lines. he wants prosecution. but then he endorses george gascon that does not prosecute thefts. without a proper prosecution, it does us no good to arrest people that will be released immediately. so that part is missing. we need a district attorney and if he wants to be the public defender, he can get that job if he wants. he needs to stop pretending that he's doing his job as a d.a. >> sandra: that is a frightful warning and a scary thought for people that are actively living through this. you heard one of the morners felt like she was living in the world west. what is the future of brianna kupfer's killer? >> right now he's obviously going to face a trial and depending on the evidence and the strength, which likes solid, hopefully he will have a fair trial and a conviction and again, it can be this -- according to gascon, he will have the minimum amount of sentence possible for a murder if what gascon is planning to do. there's no enhancements. unfortunately the enhancements are what keep as lot of these killers in prison, not harming people. that's how we drove down the homicide rates in the 90s with three strikes. it worked. it's put the worst of the worst behind bars. so they cannot harm other people. now we're backing up. >> sandra: you think there will be, sheriff, any possibility of a change in the mindset of d.a. gascon when he sees what is happening there and people are scared to walk down the street? will there be change or will we have to hit rock bottom before leadership steps in it and makes this better? >> change will come when he's recalled. he's dead set on his ideology. >> sandra: i look at what is happening in new york city. crime is running rampant. people are afraid to walk down the street. obviously you see what is happening in broad daylight. a tiny little girl was shot spending her birthday in the hospital here after being shot by gun fire in the bronx. a man ran down the street firing his gun. the alvin bragg is doubling down on a soft on crime memo that he put out in january. this would indicate they're doubling down on policies that are leading to this incredible crime spike that we're seeing happen across the country, sheriff. >> it's really up to voters. remember, everybody in office today got elected in 18 -- 2018 or 2020 when it was all the rage in the political world on the left that oh, soft on crime, progressive reform, the criminal justice system. systemic racism. all of these wonderful terms you heard. all of those woke wonders are in office now and it's blowing up in their face. there's no data, there's no science like gascon says that says their policies work. they're a failure. we need to put that pendulum back in the middle where it belongs and voters need to pay attention and hold elected officials accountable for not doing their job. >> sandra: gascon holds the news conferences. he can't believes people are surprised by his policies. we'll see what happens. there's talk about a lot of political implications of the crime as it plays out in america's biggest and smallest cities across the nation. thanks, sheriff. >> you got it. >> sandra: later this hour, business leaders facing off for manhattan controversial district attorney as crime surges in new york city. so how did that meeting go? 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michelle go, the woman that was -- >> sandra: yeah. >> she worked at deloitte. he made the point point blank, you're flaying with fire with this. steve schwartz man said the same thing. we can't get people in to the office. our people are scared. crime is out of control. the positive thing is here that bragg is saying listen, public safety is a huge concern. i believe public safety. he talked a good game. i'm going after people that do violent stuff. somebody asked him, i believe, suppose i get hit in the head with a bat. are you not going to prosecute that person? he said of course, assault with a deadly weapon. i have to. he's walking back some of the stuff. >> sandra: is he? >> rhetorically he is. he did mention the point that, you know, we are balancing public safety, which is paramount with social just tis. that was scary to some people in there. >> sandra: some said he doubled down. >> he didn't. not in this meeting. in this meeting he said he understood what they were saying and public safety comes first. they gave him various scenarios. he said he would prosecute. he talked a good game. whether or not he carries through with it is a different story. i'll say the public pressure got to him. you know, this is what journalism is supposed to be about. you expose someone that does someone insane and they back off. >> sandra: now it's emptying out. the perception of safety that they talk about, we have to get rid of that. >> just so you know, they told him that point blank. >> sandra: we'll see. he's welcome to join us any time. thanks, charlie. so do consumers need to brace for more price spikes? 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[laughter] very serious problems. thank you so much. earlier today, president biden saying that the growing economy is one of the issues behind the supply chain problems which are adding to inflation, but is there more to that? walmart was president and ceo bill simon. great to have you here. i want to pick your brain on this issue. it's something we are all dealing with, from a consumer standpoint, a producer standpoint, all the way until he gets to the dinner table. we are paying more for just about everything. what do you see as the primary reason why we are all paying more for everything? >> over the last 20 years, our supply chain has been home to a razors edge, all the inefficient's out of it. we turned it back on and expected to function normally after turning it off, with increased demand, i might add. it has not been able to respond. you add to that self-inflicted wounds, some of the energy policies that have driven up the cost of fuel, covert issues, vaccine mandates like the reporter just talked about, and we have a tangled mess of wires that needs to be untangled now. >> well said. that's it in a nutshell. it is complicated, and it is not. you look at, in some ways, how the current administration could get out of the way, and some of the problems would sell themselves. what do we do to get ourselves out of it? is up to the fed, like the president said the other day? >> if we have to wait for the fed, it's going to take them the entire year to adjust interest rates. we cannot make it an entire year. americans are literally in shock when they walk into a supermarket that they have walked into 1,000 times before, there's no food on the shelf, and it's not just a few places. event to stores in north carolina and arkansas and kentucky, florida. shelves are empty everywhere. it is a problem that needs to be dealt with right away. there are things that could be done. you could just get out of the way in the system will take care of itself over time. if you are going to put mandates in place, you had better be prepared to mobilize everybody in the military with a truckers license to move freight, because you cannot cut half the truck drivers out and expect freight's -- it's not going to happen. either get out of the way or do something. >> do you have any predictions? does it get worse before it gets better? >> i have the utmost confidence in the american consumer, american industry. i think it gets better quickly. i think we are going to look at things, and american ingenuity and businesses that have figured out how to cope for many years will take charge and start moving frates. we have to get through this current wave of omicron that is having a lot of callouts, but i believe that the next 45-60 days, provided that we don't have a new mandates or changes from the government or a focus that hurt growth things , i think we will see movements. it's not until the wires get untangled in the policies that caused this are reversed. >> all great points. you were talking about how many of them live paycheck to paycheck, and when prices go up, it affects those families. thank you for your time. this is a tape of president biden going to camp david earlier this hour. he just arrived, and will be meeting to discuss russian and ukrainian. here is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, i'm jesse watters along with greg gutfeld, gillian turner, dagen mcdowell, and harold ford jr. -- this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> my advice to everyone out there who is frustrated, sad, angry, pissed off, have a margarita, do whatever you need to do, and then keep fighting. >> jesse: it has been a doozy