much every minute about presidency and i only know the times i would interview you or be around you that that was the case. the first picture that stood out to me and i to question about it and you wrote all the captions to all the pictures. barack and michelle obama, get ready to depart washington. did you ever speak to them? since then? >> not much. initially right after i took office i did. one or two times quickly. i spoke to them before taking off as sort of a ritual that you go through. it was 15 minutes and it ended up being really normally it would be 15 and it ended up being quite a little bit longer than that to put it mildly. it was a very interesting conversation, he was telling me about north korea and the problems, and probably the greatest problem we had which i to a large extent solved. if we get along great with north korea. a rough first patch, but they understood we are not playing games. not very much. >> sean: you once told me that really you thought we were on a path to war with north korea. >> i did and so did president obama. we thought we were going to end up in war and that would have been a nuclear war and that not would have been good. did you ever call them? anyway, doesn't matter what his response was, i decided let's see how we do when we met in singapore and, we met in vietnam, we had great meetings and we established a very good relationship. i liked him, he liked me. we had some interesting conversations. >> sean: and we got the remains of our soldiers. you gave him nothing but some of your time and i was at both of those summits. he stopped at the test firings of missiles and the pursuit of nuclear weapons. obviously, that was a good thing at a very different situation now we will get to in a minute. the second one that stood out to me is signing the largest tax cut in the history of the country, and i'm looking at it through the prism of joe biden about to spend more money then any other president by far in history with this new green deal build back better socialism. >> the new green deal is nonsense. it was conceived by aoc who i don't think she studied the environment in college even. but i thought it was a hoax when it first came out. they talked about columns originally, no windows and buildings, some things and so they modified it a little bit where they want to go but the green new deal spending money m, totally surpassing us. we have this great asset called energy, liquid gold under our -- it's under our land. china doesn't have that. other countries don't have that and they're trying to take it away from us. give us wind. oh, well, wind is ruining our beautiful prairies and our beautiful fields, and lands, and everything else. it's killing off birds and that's the most expense of energy you can have, there is nothing even close. if those turbines are all made in china and in germany. it's ridiculous frankly. and it's really hurting us and you can see what happened to texas where the windmills froze and they're sitting on top of natural gas which costs almost nothing. you see those big flames in the top of the wells, that's energy that's being burned because we have so much of it. we became the number one producer in the world. we would have been, had i been rightfully elected, we would have been number one by a number that nobody has ever believed to be buried at the end of my term, we would have been bigger than russia and if you take a look, russia and saudi arabia combined. if we were energy independent for the first time. i know you say it's 70 odd years, but we were energy independent. that's a great thing and i consider that a great achievement. thanks to the lisa murkowski and a very bad decision, they ended that in alaska. this is the largest field perhaps in the world. perhaps bigger than saudi arabia and they ended in and they've been trying to get it since ronald reagan. ronald reagan couldn't do it, i got it. and they ended it, the biden administration. a gasoline additive $1.83, or a dollar and $0.86 per gallon and now it's at $7.70 in california. different places in california and it's headed that way everywhere and it's going a lot higher than that and we are asking opec for help. we did not need opec anymore. >> sean: does not asking, he's been begging opec. you're right. we became energy independent for the first time. my research shows 75 years your rights, i stand corrected. we were also a net exporter of energy, and it's even more profound because you didn't import a single barrel of oil from the middle east in saudi arabia. a third of the world's oil supplies passes through the straits of hormuz with the iranians like to cause trouble. we've given all of that off and the people being hurt the most, mr. president, are the poor and the middle class. if $1.50 on average, $1,000 a year estimates eat your home. it's driving inflation through the roof. >> it's the like the biggest tax increase you could give. when gasoline goes up by $1 and then $2, then $3, then $4 per gallon, each time it goes up $11 that's like a big tax increase. we've got the biggest tax decrease ever come of the biggest cut in regulations ever and energy independence and inexpensive gasoline for the most part. we talk in terms of gasoline and we have clean energy, we have the best as you know, we had the best numbers on the environment then we have in 50 years. >> sean: when you're talking carbon emissions? >> one other thing, sean, we filled out the strategic reserves and it was empty for many years, and other president wanted to do it because in theories it's expensive. we bought 75 million barrels and we filled up 75 million and we built up the strategic reserves. now the biden administration wants to take the strategic reserves which were filled for the first time in decades and they want to use that to try to artificially force down the price of gasoline, and gas, it's ridiculous. >> sean: i love the fact and very in character fashion, you have a picture of mark zuckerberg coming to the white house. his censorship is terrible for america, his campaign contributions even worse. tell us about that and look at the amount of money in terms of support for democratic candidates to then defeat you. why such a different posture in public -- in private with you versus what he was doing to sabotage you behind-the-scenes? >> well, you to come to the white house on numerous occasions and had dinner at the white house with me. the first lady. you know, we had nice talks. it's not just a fair thing for a country that's happening right it's rigging the election, mollie hemingway wrote a fantastic book and if you read the book, but ray did many different ways, her book was fantastic. if you look at what he's done and she's exactly right. very unfair for our country. a very unfair for the world, actually. i thought that he was concerned that we were doing things. we had a second term, we would have had pretty much under control. we had some incredible things planned for big tax. they fought me, but they fought me illegally if you look at it. it's illegal what they did in my opinion. you watch what happens. i think big things are going to happen actually, sean. he'd often come to the white house trying to get goodies. he didn't do too well. >> sean: you have my first pick for the supreme court, neil gorsuch. i think one thing that defines her presidency as we put up that picture, one of the best legal minds in the world. i think one thing that defined your presidency that you never got credit for. you said you were going to pick from a list of people that you gave before the election, you did, you said you would end regulation and you did buried you said you would cut taxes, you did, you said you would build the wall and you found a way. you had in place the stay in mexico policy and you stop to catch and release and now it's been brought back. you said you get better trade deals that are free and fair. you get us out of long conflicts. there aren't many politicians that actually say what they mean and mean what they say and actually follow through on their campaign promises. >> well, the people know i've got a lot of credit and the things we said -- we ended up with three great new supreme court justices. when nobody talks about is almost 300 federal judges. if you look at that, that's a changing of the whole system, close to 30% of the judges in the country. a federal judges, high-ranking federal judges changed. you look at what we did with mexico, and canada, and the trade deals. at the great trade deal i made for the farmers with china, and manufacturers too. got overridden in my book, that's when i said look, china, to expense to deal with them after the covid or the china virus as i call it. but we made an incredible deal. the farmers have never done better than they are doing right now because of the deal i made with china. we made so many other deals in the new deal with japan and a new deal with south korea. we are doing fantastic trade deals and frankly, i think he would've had -- i know you would have had peace with the abraham accords he would have had in the middle east that we should never have been there. if bush should have never gotten us into that mess. if i it quicksand. rankly, biden should never have allowed that withdrawal to happen the way it happened. they were totally secure, there were not touching us. i told him you can't do it. i don't have to go into great detail, but they knew they better not mess around. we were going to get our american citizens out first and others that deserve to come out not like they did taking hundreds of thousands of people out of afghanistan. they have no idea who the heck they are. you're going to find out because you can have some bad times because of them. but you take your soldiers out last, and we were going to get all of our military corpsmen. they left $85 billion worth of the best equipment in the world. they did not blow it up, they left it right they are brand-new planes brand-new everything. the goggles, better night goggles then we have come at the latest model still in the boxes. $85 billion. it was another sad day for our country. they had a parade of all of our equipment driving through one of their streets and everybody cheering with our equipment. the equipment that they stole from us when we had essentially surrendered to buried to take the soldiers out first, the most ridiculous thing -- i thing it'n the history of our country. then you take a look at the border, talk about low points. millions of people are pouring into our country. we have no idea where they are from and it's 121 countries it's up to now. releasing prisoners from their jails, emptying their jails, where like a dumping ground buried there releasing people from their jails into the united states of america. we are going to be paying a price for years to come as they are just coming in no event and no anything. you talk about masks, talk about vaccines, if you don't want to wear a mask and if you don't want vaccines, just walk in through the southern border. they are pouring in by the millions despite a great border patrol that's not allowed to do their job. i don't think our country has ever been at a low point -- and we were at the highest point, now or at the lowest. if we had the greatest economy in the world ever in the history of the world, and now you look at what's going on. we had 160 million jobs. people working. and now you take a look at the numbers. if we did it twice, we did it before covid and then we had to readjust for the china virus that came in, a gift from china all over the world. what it did to the world, but then i did it a second time. we did a job and rebuild our military, largest tax cut in history, largest regulation cut in history. it's been an amazing thing, the creation of think of this, give creation of space for us for the first time in 75 years we created a beautiful new branch of the military. air force was the last one and this is the new one, it's going to be an important one too. of space force. if we did a lot, sean, and i think people appreciated it. i think they appreciated now more than they did not maybe november 3rd. but you remember the numbers like 12 million more votes than i got the first time so they appreciated it then also. >> sean: i never thought i'd see this country a vented fellow americans in afghanistan the way we did buried it's beyond humiliating i never thought that we would talk about giving payments to $450,000 to people breaking our laws, not respecting our borders, or sovereignty come i never thought we'd give preferential treatment to illegal immigrants. no need for a covid test, no vaccine mandate as you rightly point out. there's a picture of you and andrew cuomo in the oval office and i thought about -- i never understood, you said the navy hospital ship. if you built 3,000 bed unit at the javits center and converted it for covid capability. while andrew cuomo had the opportunity, you are providing all of the ppe, you are providing all of the personnel, they were covid ready, all the medicines, all the gloves, everything was they are available. he didn't have to send people to nursing homes. and he did and then covered it up. by the way, as did the governor of new jersey and the governor of pennsylvania. here are these beds, 80 plus percent of them stayed empty and you provided everything for them. why? why when it they use them? >> so i got a call from governor cuomo, nick de blasio , i sent this great ship and they converted it to use for covid which is not an easy thino so quickly. they had tremendous rooms and tremendous everything. if it was ready. we built 2,800 rooms at the javits center and they were beautiful. i call every week, how does it do it, why aren't you using it? it was incredible, the army corps of engineers did a great job. everybody did buried we had these incredible areas, these big, beautiful hospitals. we built them all over the state and rebuild them in illinois, in louisiana, and plenty of other places too. but we built this magnificent places in a period of days and why aren't you using them? they couldn't give me an answer, they didn't know. if they would have use them, he would not have had the problem and cuomo would have been better off than he has right now. of >> sean: coming up, my exclusive interview with dr. oz and former senator david perdue about why they are both running for office. that is straight ahead. ♪ ♪ salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ ♪ >> welcome to fox news live i'm ashley strohmier. over 60 years, we've been tracking santa with the help of the u.s. and canadian military. what's become its own widely popular tradition, the colorado base command provides real-time updates 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anti-second amendment. is that true? >> no, i'm pro-second amendment and i've got my cure and conceal, i own guns and you have a right to bear arms is in the constitution. it can i say one thing before the rapid-fire? this week has been absolutely life-changing. there's a lot of action on dr. oz.com. going to come back to that because the comments from other outlets, i traveled christmas party to visit with county republican leaders. the campaign is going to be so much more than it was about america's future and these great ideas will empower us to fix health care, education, the economy. i've got to say, the specific things we have been exposed to have changed my views because i realized the innovation and capitalism work. if we can cut costs and save lives. the hippocratic oath, as you know, we always put our patients first. if if i can be your public serv, i'll put public first. >> sean: if kids don't get a good education, basically ripping out the rungs of the ladder to success in life. can we do better than what we're doing now? i know that we can do much worse. >> we can do lots better and parents are worried about education because every parent wants their child. we've got schools to offer value with what the parents don't want into they cannot use the private sector solution. if they do not have school choice, charter schools they can get their kids to. here's the biggest issue, in order to be dealt with at the local level and too often parents cannot get their schools to respond because they are controlled from a, much further distance. >> sean: lets go quicker, defund, dismantle, no bail laws in cities. we see the robberies know every single night buried your reaction and what's the answer? >> the answer is you have high quality police officers. we need law enforcement and it's not working. it's 501st murder last week at the college student, the bursar who murdered him had been picked up earlier for a carjacking was released. this is what drives people understandably crazy, but it also undermines the very sanctity of society which is safety. we need that. >> sean: let's talk about abortion, hot topic issue. we had a case in mississippi argued before the supreme court last week. it might change the viability from 23 weeks to 15 weeks. it might send abortion laws back to the states. your thoughts? >> i'm pro-life. three possible exceptions of the mother's life, rape, and. >> sean: which is a very common position in pennsylvania. talk about your position, your parents came here legally. if what would the answer be for dr. oz? >> with the prior administration did was very wise. you do not let immigrants across the order. also will be a trafficking across the border which is what's going on right now. the cartels go back and get more folks to bring them back across the border. the only way to present the might prevent the process is to stop it at the point where the people are entering the country. >> sean: what about the type of justice as you want on the u.s. supreme court? and other judgeships? >> i think judges should follow the constitution. they should read it carefully, and adjudicate conflicts based on what the constitution states. we don't want to legislate from the bench. >> sean: how concerned are you about the troops amassing on the border with ukraine, vladimir putin? how concerned are you about chinese fighter jets flying over taiwan and china talking about reunification? how are you feeling about lifting the sanctions to around with joe biden has done. >> all three are major concerns. if we do not want taiwan compromised period of time once a major producer of semiconductors but it's also wrong. it is a country that should have its own economy and the same thing for ukraine and people around iran. the united states has been there and we need our country to be strong. they will look to us for leadership. >> sean: georgia gubernatorial candidate david perdue. i'm glad you got in because governor kemp in my view and i've been saying this emma cannot win. he's lost confidence and you know i lived in georgia for a while. he lost confidence from all of my friends in georgia. you have their confidence. now this is good for you and it's good for herschel walker, tell us about why you got in. >> i got in very simply to stop stacey abrams and save our state. it's a sad state of affairs under current governor has lost the confidence of many republicans. but, shawn, i'm excited and this has been a great day since our announcement this morning. this is my first interview. as you said, just a few minutes ago, donald trump has given us our full endorsement in our campaign. if you'll permit me, i need your viewers to join donald trump and me tonight and helping us stop stacey abrams by going to david perdue dodge ea.com. if she wants to transform our estate into another failed state. you heard the news about california and that's what she wants to bring to georgia. all stand on the breach and make sure she never does that. >> sean: you pointed out things about abrams. he barely beat her the last time, i thought he ran a terrible campaign. i would argue that we just proved to stacey abrams lie when she went on rachel maddow show. i think there might be a campaign as, a humble suggestion from a talk show host. but in reality, i really think the consent agreement that was made with the republican party, cap defending it all was one of the worst decisions ever. they needed verification, chain of custody controls, there was no accommodation made for covid. correct me if i'm wrong, the avalon georgia like many other states that says partisan observers get to watch the vote count start to finish. they can't watch her from 120 or 140 feet away can you? >> stacey abrams on her side complained about the election and we seen irregularities. they want to know are democracies going to count to and not be stolen. let's be clear, stacey abrams not interested in georgia. she wants to become president of the united states and this is the democratic party's way of showcasing her. i believe it will be able to stop her. my vision for our state and not looking backwards, sean, but looking forwards. we've got to make sure it never happens again. i want to eliminate the state income tax and give education of her children back to our parents. i want to make our cities and states safe again, i want to fight biden at every turn on the silly mandates which you call out every night. i'll tell you one more thing, sean come over my dead body will we ever do what kemp did and that's turn our election over the stacey abrams. will never let that happen again. >> sean: there's only one thing missing ice on george's new law, five or six things i need to be done, you brought back just like delaware, you'vey control, partisan observers can observe. can it be added before the next election was mack it should be in every state. >> sean, you point out the legislation did a great job this past year making changes. it's not perfect yet. but we can't let republicans not vote again. this election in the primary and the general, we learned to my runoff that if we don't vote, they will win. we have to get out and vote. it's not perfect, but it's good enough. what president trump said in virginia's race night before the election. get out and vote. let's come over the shortcomings. it will it fixed. >> sean: i'll add one thing to that, republicans all across the country, if this is the law, you've got to match the democrats with mail-in voting and early voting. if that's going to be the way the system goes, you better engage in the way they do because they work hard at it. david perdue, i'm glad you got in this race and i hope you win the primary. at that you deserve to be the governor and i know you'll be a good governor for georgia. we appreciate you being with us. >> thanks, sean. >> sean: up next, highlights from our several townhomes this past year you don't want to miss. ♪ ♪ 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building. it's very dangerous for the people that are taking to the streets. how do you assess at? >> from day one, the people of cuba have been protesting and demonstrating against the communist dictatorship in havana. not because of vaccines, not because of the side issues, they want a new government in a free cuba. i think it's incumbent upon us and the united states to be supportive of those efforts. i called on joe biden the communist regime shut down internet. let's work to be an internet onto the island of cuba so these folks have a fighting chance to converse with one another and send what's going on to the outside world. build an international coalition so that the regime knows the free world stands with the people of cuba. i think it's great that you're here in florida. we take pride in being the free state of florida. if this is the beating heart of freedom in florida and little havana because everybody in the community has been affected in one way or another by the communist dictatorship. maybe they had loved ones that have been killed by the regime, imprisoned by the regime, and obviously all of the relatives at one point fled a very evil regime. i think you're seeing people take to the streets because we understand after 62 years, something is different on that island right now. we have an opportunity to really take a new chapter in history and i think you pointed out in your monologue. cuba would be a phenomenal ally if they were free. it would be a boon for the people of cuba and also be great for relations with the united states. >> sean: when i tell you, without the communications abilities, they are our friends and families and loved ones, number one that they would like to know that are okay. if they are not free to communicate, nor they're trying to suppress the truth of what's happening. the people of cuba are showing incredible courage, the biden administration said the exact words that i believe are showing cowardice. what should joe biden be doing? >> step up and be on the side of freedom. >> sean: we like to welcome up senator marco rubio. [cheers and applause] >> you and i, you and i talked about, and we've got to do something in miami. we wanted marco here, but he has senate votes and he got on a plane. rushed down here to be able to be. >> sean: barely made it. >> he's carrying a lot of load it up in washington on this issue. >> sean: i remember a number of times over the years, we've known each other for a long time and your family story which many people relate to, i think there's a percentage of the population in america that does not understand what we are explaining here that's happening. tell us a story. >> first of all, cuba is a failure of socialism and it doesn't work. marxism is about power, it's about controlling people. a marxist system wants to keep people poor because poor people are easier to control. a marxist system is about leveraging people, you're not going to have food or medicine, not going to have benefits unless you agree to do what we want. the second thing it's a tear in a beard and of tyranny doesn't promote confidence. the leaders of cuba are just incompetent people, you do not get promoted for being smart, you get from one to because you're loyal, compliant, you give in. the third is they are liars. marxism and socialists are liars, there is no u.s. embargo against the cuban people. if a cuban night tonight wants to open up in cuba they can to. the only embargoes on the cuban regime because they own everything. they own it, every single one of them and what president trump did come of the policy he put in place was very successful. if you're a private citizen of cuba you can open up a private business, and we can do trade with you but we will not do with trade with military on company because all the money goes into their pocket. that's when happening, the people of cuba and they've had access to the internet, they realize and they see how their cousins, families are living outside of cuba. cuba and america's are less than half of 1% of the united states population. ceos of corporations, universities, ambassadors, members of the candidate, they even represent 3% of the united states senate even though we are half of 1% of the u.s. population. >> sean: we also travel to texas for a town hall with former president trump and greg abbott to talk about the crisis at our border. you and melania trump came down the escalator, you talked about securing our country's borders. you had to fight hard to get the money to build 500 miles of wall, stay in mexico policy. if you built wall. it ended catch and release. now we see what happened and your reaction. it's because there's never been a better time six months ago, and the worst time. if you have the tightest security, you could come into the country legally. we are stopping massive amounts of drugs, human traffickers, bad, bad people, emptying their jails into our country. other countries are emptying their jails into our country. we never had it better, and now we've never had it worse. the history of our country. >> sean: you've been generous with your time coming on the show often. you have pointed out -- you couldn't even even sending your child protective services to check on and do their job to check on kids. you know about ranchers finding dead bodies on their ranches. we know about the perilous journey. but the government won't even allow you to enforce the laws that they refuse to enforce. if you're left with building -- he's not president? >> me in texas has been left to our own devices to fend for ourselves like where some outpost along some territory that the federal government doesn't care about anymore. it's not like it was with president trump. he cared about texas. he built a wall in texas. >> sean: but i'm having a hard time -- i'm sure everybody here is having a hard time with, we are supposed to be a nation of laws. in president trump, if you jaywalk to they'd want to impeach him. let's be honest. but joe biden and kamala harris are picking and choosing not to enforce the laws of the land. and you do not have the authority as the governor to enforce it for them, so no you'll do the next best thing? >> the first error the biden administration's make income of the event and of law in their not enforcing the immigration laws that are passed by congress. we have a complete open border policy in the state can make the same apprehensions that the border patrol can make. if we would just turn them over to the federal officials who believe in catch and release. what texas is doing because i declared a disaster, the penalties have increased for anybody trespassing and anybody who vandalize as anything, and they are going to go to jail. we are working with sheriff's, men and women in the white house. >> sean: i want to be very clear here. >> shone from real quick. what i've been working for the last year, we are going to start arresting people and putting people behind bars putting them in jail not ge bragged carpet treatment that biden administration's been giving them. >> sean: coming up next, my exclusive interview with nicholas sandmann about the media mob's treatment of kyle rittenhouse and his advice. that straight ahead. ♪ ♪ >> sean: recently i spoke with former covington high school nicholas sandmann about the left and the media mom's dishonest coverage of kyle rittenhouse. he had some advice for kyle. take a look. thank you for joining us, i remember at the time what you're going through. i remember that moment and then as the facts came out that everything that was said about you, that you had walked over to this native american activist for example that you had in fact that you are racist, you had the same false accusations leveled against you. i remember thinking when the facts came out, you handled this as perfectly i felt as any kid could. my question to you is, what is the impact on the psyche, the mind being thrust into the public eye like that, being called things that you not, things that are not true? then i want to ask you what you think kyle should do. >> it's terrible, sean. i will tell you why. 17-year-old, your mind is still developing. to deal with an overload of stress where you have this feeling that half of the country, hundreds of millions of people hate you for something that your innocent. it can do a lot to you mentally. it takes a very strong will to be able to resist that and keep a level head. i know that kyles probably dealing with that right now. >> sean: you said in the article the parallels between me and kyle rittenhouse are impossible not to draw. and that you think kyle rittenhouse should sue outlets to "hold the media accountable." i know that you have entered into settlements, and i'm sure there's nondisclosure agreements you can't talk about. i know cnn is one. there is ongoing cases if i'm not mistaken. is that correct? >> that's correct. i'm currently still suing six media outlets. >> sean: tell us what you think and why you think kyle should hold the media accountable. let me ask you this, i would like your opinion based on joe biden's tweet. do you think he should also look at the idea of suing joe biden? >> well, i think he should sue the media, but it's a personal call that's up to him. in january, it will be three years since everything happened. at the march of life and i'm still looking at another two years until the cases that go to trial are resolved. it's a very personal call for him. i know he has a lot on his plate on whether he wants to entrench himself in this. but on the topic of joe biden, i've heard a lot of debate about it, but i think playing it simple that unfortunately calling someone a racist or a white supremacist is an opinion protected by the first amendment. personally, i know it because many of the claims that we labeled as defamatory were not laden by the judge in court. i would like to see him go in after joe biden, i would like to see where that goes. but i don't think kyle's in the case where he can be making lawsuits just to see what happens. he doesn't have the luxury of suing anybody to see if any of them land. >> sean: it's interesting, i learned a lot in your first attorney was whom i've known for years, he was richard jewell's attorney. i was a local radio host at atlanta in a time. a big article came out in the constitution and it said that richard jewell fit the profile of the lone bomber because he lives with his mom. i did not know richard jewell was listening to my radio program and i said excuse me, just because he lives with his mom does not make him a domestic terrorist. in the end he was a hero. it has served me well because i don't rush to judgment, the show doesn't do that. if we allow for the presumption of innocence and due process. we did frankly in your case and i don't know if you watched any of the coverage. we been right on duke, lacrosse, right on uva, friday, baltimore, right on the russia hoax, three or four years of never ending conspiracy leary's and lies. you've got the same group of people, nicholas, that all of the people rush to judgment. that's why i believe you're right in doing what you're doing because this has to end. because they're destroying people's lives. you're a young man that i can tell just from this interview, this has not destroyed your life. but it could have. if i assure you , i'm sure you had many difficut days being labeled the world's biggest racist. >> yes, it was terrible for multiple months. while i don't speak about it often, and has been hard to kind of come back from the state i was in. if i did watch a lot of fox and cnn, msnbc. after the confrontation happened and it was like a car crash, you aren't able to look away from. >> sean: we will have more of the special edition of "hannity" right after this. ♪ ♪ unfortunately that is all the time we have this evening this christmas eve. we want to wish you and your family a very merry christmas. it's time for santa. the meantime have a great christmas. have a great night. >> i'm laura ingraham. and this is a special edition of "the ingraham angle" tonight. the best of laura and raymond. >> is glad to be back here in the studio. >> it's been a long time or did 2021 totally flyby. i think we shared a few viral moments. and hilarious moments. i couldn't agree more. many of those moments we really have to think and think one particular person, joe biden. it work for his confounding

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