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Transcripts For FOXNEWS Tucker Carlson Tonight 20240709



firearm. rittenhouse didn't go to kenosha looking for trouble. his father lived there. he worked as a lifeguard in keno shacked on august 25 last summer he went downtown to stand guard over a car lot. here's the context. the night before, police in kenosha had done nothing at the mobbed and burned businesses, including a car lot, all the way to the ground. so they needed rittenhouse's help. they were looking for a 17-year-old to help if that gives you some perspective. as rittenhouse stood there rioters threatened his life. then they attempted to kill him. in the end rittenhouse shot three people as he tried to run to police. in fact, all three men were white and all three had serious criminal records. we could go on. again, the media coverage was from beginning to end a tapestry of lies. if you watched the trial last week you know that but what about rittenhouse himself? what is he like? apart from his testimony in court few americans have ever her his voice. over the next hour we'll let kyle rittenhouse speak for himself. you can make up your own mind but before we start one observation which we can't resist making. it's hard to ignore the class divide between rittenhouse and the media. rittenhouse comes if the least privileged sector of our society. during high school he worked as a janitor and a cook to help support his family. last year he got into college at arizona state and he's very proud of it. in the world kyle rittenhouse grew up in it's not a given that kids go to college. not even close. during the considers of our long conversation, rittenhouse struck us as bright, decent, sincere, dutiful and hard working. exactly the kind of person would you want many more of in your country. he's not especially political. he never wanted to be a symbol of anything. rittenhouse just wanted to keep violent lunatics from setting fire to cars. in the american he grew up in that was considered virtuous. so if rittenhouse seems a little bewildered at points thinking over the last year and what happened to him that's probably why. a lot of things he assumed to be true about this country turned out to not be true at all. in that way he speaks for many of us. here's rittenhouse. >> tell me, kyle, how you wound up in kenosha that day. >> well, it actually started on august 24. i was working my job as a lifeguard at the rec plex in kenosha county and the riots were still going on and a curfew was applied so i went to dominic black's house and i stayed the night over there, and saw the videos of the riots and the arson going on. >> what did you think of it? >> it was upsetting because kenosha is my community. and i just was upset seeing my community up in flames. >> tucker: yes. i guess you were. so you're at your friend's house that night. you've come back from working as a lifeguard. >> yes. >> tucker: and then you decide to go in, first you're cleaning up graffiti, correct? >> yes. i spent the night august 24. we wake up in the morning and we were talking, let's go help our community. let's go see what we can do and winded up at -- central high school where we were cleaning graffiti for a couple of hours, and then we met with the owners of car source, and we offered to protect their business from fires, making sure their other two properties didn't get burned down like they did the night prior, and they agreed. we came back. we went back to dominic's house, and hung out there for a little bit and then we went to car source to help protect the property and make sure it didn't get set on fire again. >> tucker: so you get there. what do you see? >> when i get there, i see, in the beginning, the morning, i see just spray paint everywhere. i see smoke coming from the car service that was burnt down and it was quite upsetting, that somebody's business got destroyed. >> tucker: so you said to the people who owned the car lot, i want to protect your cars and they said yes, please. >> i said, hey, i asked if they needed any help and they said yes, if you can. >> where were the police? >> i'm not sure really because they have a hard job for sure, but i didn't really think they got the support they needed. the national guard should have been called. august 23. but the city of kenosha failed the community. the governor, tony evers, failed the community and there should have been a lot more resources to help with that. >> tucker: that's for sure. you've been criticized for carrying a firearm into the scene. but it's obvious from the tape that a lot of people -- you weren't the only one with a firearm. there were rioters with firearms, did you see that? >> yes. >> tucker: you saw other people with guns. >> i did. there were a lot of people, like there were rioters with firearms. i remember one very succinctly, joshua, was walking around with a pistol in his hand all that night with joseph rosenbaum. >> tucker: where did you first see rosenbaum? >> the first time i saw rosenbaum was the first time he threatened to kill me. it was at the corner of the car source lot that i was at primarily that night, and i was asking people if they needed medical and he came up to me and ryan paul said, if i catch any of you mfors alone i'm going to fing kill you. >> had you ever seen him before? >> i had not. >> tucker: so you never had seen this guy and he walks up and threatens to kill you out of nowhere? >> yes. it was quite shocking. why would somebody threaten to kill me. i'm just asking if people need help on both sides. i was there just to help anybody that needed it, and shockingly, the only people i helped that night were rioters. >> tucker: what kind of sense did you get from rosenbaum, i mean, that sounds deranged? >> when he threatened to kill me i was like, what the heck just happened? nobody has ever threatened to kill me up until that point. that's not something you say to somebody. >> tucker: how long after that was that it he tried to grab your rifle? >> it was about an hour and a half later, and there was actually a second time he said to the group, he said, this is the second time he threatened to kill everybody. he said, i'm going to f-ing kill you, cut your hearts out you f-ing words. >> tucker: cut your heart out? >> yes. >> tucker: did any of the rioters try to calm him down and stop him? >> what i noticed is the rioters were trying -- they were like disassociating with him because he was like spewing the n word around and they just didn't seem to want to have anything to deal with him, rioters. >> tucker: yes. so he customer, he tries to grab your rifle. he gets shot. you decided at that point, you want to go turn yourself into the police? >> yes. after i shoot mr. rosenbaum, he tried to grab my gun. i was running away. there was a gunshot behind me, after i shoot him i run around the car because i was going to go render first-aid to him. i wasn't able to because then, there was a mob forming, and calling for my execution to get him and kill him. and that's when i tried to run to the police line and get to the police, and then i am attacked again. >> tucker: by the guy who kicked you? >> jump kicked me, yes. >> tucker: whose identity we didn't know. it turns out the prosecution knew it and hid it. >> yes. so we found out november 7 the prosecution, we went into the judge's chambers and the prosecution said, we identified jump kick man, and the prosecution threw a fit a little bit. they didn't want us to interview him. there were like -- well, he's a victim. and didn't want my investigators or my attorneys to interview him or ask him questions. they just wanted to do it private, nonrecord it and the judge said, no, no, no. it's going to be recorded, and then a couple of hours later they say, oh, he asked for immunity and we're not going to give it to him so we won't be calling him as a witness. >> tucker: yes. probably didn't want to talk about his criminal record. >> yes. >> tucker: so you're running, trying to get to the police line. you see the mob coming after you, let's execute him, they are saying, and then out of nowhere you get dropped to the ground by the guy who kicks you in the head. did you see him coming? >> i did. to backtrack a little bit, actually, as i'm running -- came up to me with his fon and put it in my face and saying, what did you do? did you just shoot that man? i told him i'm going to the police, oh, okay, and ran off and i kept running to get to the police. and that's when anthony huber tribes me with a skateboard as i'm running when i'm on the ground the first time and i'm hit with a rock by somebody in a white tank top and that's how i end up on the ground. and i have four people around me from what i remember. and i move my firearm in the direction and they back off with their hands up so i don't shoot them and then jump kick man keeps coming and that's when i fired two shots at jump kick man. >> tucker: wow. and you miss him and he kicks you. >> yes. >> tucker: then what happens? >> after jump killing man is running off, anthony comes up and he grabs the barrel of my gun and then he hits me with his skateboards, holding his trucks, and that's when i shoot his one time. >> tucker: where did he hit you with his skateboard? >> he hit me in the back of the head, in the neck. the back of the head toward the neckline. >> tucker: did you think you were going to be killed at that point? >> i did. >> tucker: then what happens? >> then after mr. huber attacks me, mr. gross -- puts his hands up, and then i have my rifle pointed in his direction for about a second and once i lower my rifle i noticed that my ejection port has opened about an inch, and mr. gross said i pulled the charging handle which never happened. i reached forward to close the ejection ports and he sees me doing that or something and this time he runs at me and he has his gunpoint directly at my head. >> tucker: did you see the gun? >> i did. >> tucker: did you think he was going to shoot you? >> i did. he had it pointed directly at my head and that's when i shoot him one time and he is no longer a threat to me at that point because he ran off after i fired that shot. >> tucker: did you realize i hit him? >> i didn't know until later. >> tucker: so then what happens? >> there is a person directly in front of me and i point my rifle in their direction, and he puts his hands up, and he's backing up, and i then turn around, start going to the police, and then i hear shots behind me and i turn around and briefly raise my rifle to see if i'm being shot at. and then i realize i can't see who is shooting at me so then i turn around and go back to the police car. toward the police line. >> tucker: hearing this, it's just hard to believe this is happening in an american city. >> yeah. >> tucker: so then you finally get up. you hear shots. you turn to see who is shooting at you. and then you finally make it to the police line. >> yes. once i make it to the police cruiser, the police officer says get back. get back. get back. one of them has a gun out. another has pepper spray pointed at me, and i say, i just had to shoot somebody, i just had to shoot somebody and they say go home, and i didn't know this -- >> tucker: go home. >> yes. the officer said to go home. i don't think he knew what happened or heard me. there was a lot of chaos going on. >> tucker: yes. >> but apparently, he pepper sprayed me. you see it in the video but i don't remember being pepper sprayed by him too. too so then what happened? >> i say, okay. i go back to the car source, lots number two. we've been referring to car source one as the one that got burnt down. car source two is the one that i was at primarily the entire night and car source three is the one where i was attacked by mr. rosenbaum. i go back to car source lot number two, and i tell everybody there what happened. i said, i had to do it. i was just attacked. i was dizzy. i was vomiting. i couldn't breathe. and i was like, we couldn't -- i wanted to turn myself into the police in kenosha but i wasn't able to because they weren't accepting visitors, apparently with the barricades and the fence up so we ended up turning myself into the antioch police department. >> tucker: so you drove back across state lines as we're calling it. you couldn't even turn yourself in? >> no. i had to go to antioch police department, which, to my understanding, is the closest police department to kenosha. >> tucker: why do you think burning were burning car source what does that have to do with civil rights? >> i don't know. i think it was opportunists taking advantage of the movement. i agree with the bl movement. i agree everybody has a right to protest and assemble but i do not agree that people have the right to turn down. i don't appreciate that people are burning down american cities to try to spread their message. i think there are other ways to go around and do that. >> tucker: i agree with that completely. so you turn yourself into the antioch police. what do you think will happen at this point to you? >> i didn't know. i was in shock. my head was spinning from being hit in the head multiple times. i had some minor injuries. i just didn't know. i didn't know i was going to be arrested for defending myself, because everything was on video but part of the reason why i think i was arrested is because of the mob mentality. and they were like, oh, yes, we're just going to arrest him even though there were videos already out showing me being attacked and having to defends myself. >> tucker: so when was it that you were arrested? >> i was arrested on august 25 at around 6:00 a.m. i was formally arrested without a criminal complaint being drafted. they didn't know what they were charging me with yet. they just arrested me. >> tucker: at home? >> at the antioch police department. >> tucker: what did your parents say when you called them and told them what happened? >> i didn't call my mom after i saw her. she was in shock. she was like, she wanted to go into hiding. i said no, right thing to do would be to turn myself in. i didn't do anything wrong. >> tucker: so you knew that from the very beginning? >> i knew that. allot of people were like, oh, kyle had time to meet with his attorneys to come up with this amazing defense, self-defense, no, that's not the case. this has been a hundred percent self-defense from the beginning, and i didn't know there were a hundred cameras. but i did know i was attacked and i defended myself. >> tucker: what do you think would have happened to you if there hadn't been the amount of video that there is? >> i can't even imagine. i don't think we would be sitting here right now having this talk, tucker. >> tucker: that's for sure. you would never get out. rittenhouse knows perfectly well the only reason he's free is that he can prove what actually happened thanks to those videos but it didn't prevent him from going to jail anyway. he did for a longer period than most people understand. during that time he picked up a couple of attorneys who said would help him. in his view they badly abused him and his family and their trust. we'll tell you a lot about that in just a minute and about the prosecutors. also, a brief programming note, we had cameras behind the scenes throughout much of this case. our tucker carlson original documentary called the trial of kyle premiers in december. - [announcer] love the delicious taste of fried foods? now you don't have to say no. enjoy all the crunch without the calories when you create healthy, delicious meals with cuisinart air fryer toaster oven. our innovative technology lets you fry food with ultra hot air and 98% less oil for healthier results and no messy cleanup or lingering odors. with seven functions, this multitasking oven also bakes, broils, convection bakes and broils, warms, and toasts, so you'll use it every day. say yes to healthy and delicious with the cuisinart air fryer toaster oven. mom, hurry, our show's gonna start soon. won't be too long. i'm leaving work now. ♪ people around ♪ ♪ christmas ♪ oh no. seriously? 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>> once i'm arrested, i go to -- juvenile facility and i've got to say thank you to them for their professionalism. >> tucker: the jailers? >> the guards, depke. they were the upmost professional people i have ever met. >> tucker: really? >> exactly. some of the most professional people i have ever met. amazing. like they treated me with respect. and they didn't like talk down to you like you've seen like in some videos, they just treated me like i was a human. >> tucker: how long were you there? >> i was in jail for 87 days, and this falls in with linwood -- linwood was raising money on my behalf, and he held me in jail for 87 days, disrespecting my wishes. put me on media interviews which i should never have done, which he said, oh, you're going to go talk to the "washington post" which was not a good idea, along with john pierce. they said i was safer in jail instead of at home with my family, and then -- >> tucker: your lawyer said that? >> my lawyer said that, john pearson and linwood. >> tucker: 87 days is a long time to be in jail. >> it was very long. i lost a lot of weight. i've since gained it back too. too i know the feeling. >> yeah. but 87 days of not being with my family for defending myself and being taken advantage of, being used for a cause by these -- by john pierce and linwood, trying to solicit -- not solicit, trying to raise money so they can take it for their own benefit. not trying to set me free. >> tucker: so you think they could have raised the money for bail faster but they didn't? >> i believe -- sometime in september, september 5, i want to say, they had over a million dollars, and bail was set and able to be posted in september, so they could have had me sign the waiver for extradition and had me back in wisconsin, and i could have been bailed out by mid-september. but they wanted to keep me in jail until november 20. >> tucker: what was that like? >> it was scary in jail. like you had to watch over yourself. not a lot of people liked me in jail. the funny thing, is a lot of people didn't like me in jail but they got to hear my story and understand me, like, he's actually a really decent person. not this person that the media painted him out to be, and it was scary. i was able to make friends, acquaintances in jail and i played spades, card games with them. >> tucker: amazing. so you're in jail for 87 days. do off sense of how your case is being talked about in the outside world? >> not really when i'm in jail but once i am bailed out john pierce said i was an unorganized militia, which was just blatantly false. i didn't know what a militia was. >> tucker: your lawyer said you were a militia? >> i didn't know what militia was until after november 25, when i was watching some of the interviews. i'm not in a militia. i don't know what that is. >> tucker: sorry to laugh. >> i was like, what the heck, and i'm like, no wonder people are saying i'm in a militia. it's because he painted that narrative which he should have never have gone there too. too well, yes, it's untrue. >> exactly. >> tucker: were you surprised -- i haven't heard you mention race at all in this conversation. you said, you saw your community on fire. you wanted to help. you asked the business owner if you could help. were you surprised to see this framed as a racial story? >> to be honest, tucker, this case has nothing to do with race. it never had anything to do with race. it had to do with the right to self-defense. >> tucker: what a sweet kid. i think that comes through loud and clear. playing hearts in jail. but he seems confused by the descriptions of this case as pertaining somehow to race. what he didn't know when he was locked away for 87 days is that the media, spurred on by democratic politicians joe biden immediately branded him a white supremacist. the president of the united states did that and several members of congress. during the trial, one of the prosecutors, thomas binger, particularly loathesome cast, government lawyer, mocks kyle rittenhouse for putting out fires in kenotia. it's dishonorable to put out fires apparently. we asked rittenhouse about that. here's what he said. >> i'm not a racist person. i support the blm movement. i support people demonstrating. i believe there needs to be changed. i believe there is a lot of prosecutorial conduct, not just in my case but other cases. it's amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of somebody, like if they did this to me imagine what they could have done to patterson of color who maybe doesn't have the resources i do or widely publicized like my case. >> tucker: what did you make of the president of the united states calling you a white supremacist? >> mr. president, if i would say one thing to you, i would urge you to go back and watch the trial, and understand the facts before you make a statement. >> tucker: that's not a small thing to be called that. >> no, it's actual malice, defaming my character for him to say something like that. >> tucker: i mean, why do you think, and it's not simply biden who said that, it's a lot of people on television have said that. a lot. dozens of people have said that. i'm sorry to tell you that in case you haven't seen it. >> it's quite his hair cal. he crossed state lines, false. none of that is true. the lies that they can get away with spreading just sickening and it's a disgrace to this country. >> tucker: i couldn't agree more. before this, i mean, you're 17 years old so you're probably not watching cable news all day or deeply into politics. maybe you were, but did you know how dishonest the media coverage of events could be? >> i didn't. i have never seen something so polarizing in my life. when it's just, it's obvious self-defense. if you look at the case, you look at the facts, no matter what your opinion is or where you stand, this wasn't a political case. it shouldn't have been a political case. it was made a political case. this had nothing to do with race. and the ways people are twisting this, it's just sickening. i think a lot of people watching have reached the same conclusion and they would like to see you help make this better by holding some of these liars into account. do you plan to do that? >> i have really good lawyers who are taking care of that right now. so i'm hoping one day there will be some -- there will be accountability for their actions that they did. >> tucker: okay. so you're intent -- you're not going to let that go. >> like i said, really good lawyers are handling that. >> tucker: so during the trial, was there ever a point where you thought, despite the fact you had all of this video evidence on your side, bolstering your story, did you ever think, i might go to jail for this. >> that was a thought i had every single day until i got the not guilty verdict. >> tucker: really? >> because i didn't -- are you wear of -- jaw and demetrius is? >> tucker: yes. >> she did an amazing job but you still have that feeling in your stomach, what if somebody snuck their way on to the jury to convict me, so that was something that always went through my head but i know where i stand and i know i defended myself. >> tucker: were you surprised by the verdict? >> i wasn't. i thought they came to the correct verdict because it wasn't kyle rittenhouse on trial in wisconsin. it was the right to self-defense on trial. and if i was convicted, no one would be able -- no one would ever be privileged to defend their life against attackers and they came to the correct verdict of not guilty. >> tucker: so the media lies about the police shooting of jacob blake. a riot ensues. young people throughout the area rush to the riot to set things on fire. kyle rittenhouse shows up to prevent things from being burned to the ground. to prevent arson. guess whose side they take? 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>> actually i go to the jail when i'm 17. i'm in an adult jail, october 31, i'm extradited. which i agreed with. i wanted to go to the kenosha county jail to begin with. i wanted to be extradited to the kenosha county jail. i always wanted to be extradited. i had no problem that but he forgot to file -- he didn't even know i was going. so my attorney didn't know i was going to jail, which is quite sickening because he should have known. >> tucker: well, yes. that's the whole point of an attorney. >> thank god i have competent counsel now. but the jail was interesting. i was in my own room. it was kind of like, like a -- i'm going to describe it as a one star hotel. one star hotel. we'll go with a super 8. >> tucker: super 8. >> i had a desk. i had a shower. i had a toilet. i had a tv. i had a tablet. but i didn't have running water. >> tucker: seriously? >> i had a phone also but di not have running water so i didn't shower until november 20th. >> tucker: how long is that? >> from october 30 to november 20, i did not take a shower. i felt terrible, i lost weight. my health was degrading. if i was in there for a month longer i probably would have been in the hospital. >> tucker: no running water? >> no running water in my jail cell. >> tucker: did they let you out? >> to talk with my attorneys. i didn't really say anything about my running water because i don't like to bring attention to myself. i didn't want to draw any problems with any of the guards. so i was like, i'm just going to shut up and not mention that i don't have running water. but i didn't shower until november 20 and when i showered, i showered, i took like a three-hour shower. i had like blood, my skin was bleeding because, my skin was coming off of my body. it was just, the nastiest thing ever. and i feel bad for dave, who has been with me from the beginning, who helped to start freekyle usa.org, i feel bad for him because he had to smell me through that three-hour car ride. >> tucker: imagine putting that kid in jail. there were few people there that night who were this for the right reasons, who were trying to help, bring order out of disorder, and they put him in jail. the most infuriating part is the facts haven't changed. videotape of that night was available almost immediately to anyone who wanted to see it. it was very clear, this boy had acted in self-defense and they lobbed him up anyway because of political pressure. so what are kyle rittenhouse's plan for the future? 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now that he's been acquitted? here's that part of the interview. >> tucker: what do you think your life will be like after this? >> i'm hoping i can live a quiet stress-free life, and be free of any intimidation or harassment and just go on with my life as a normal 18-year-old kid attending coll >> tucker: you're going to go to college? >> i am in cleaning. i'm student at arizona state university. >> tucker: i mean, are you going to go to campus and -- >> i think i am. i want to. it's a lot of things we have to look into so i don't know for sure yet. but i do intend on going to campus. . pursuing a career in nursing. i may go into law, i haven't decided yet but i want to be a nurse so i've been doing the prerequisites for that. >> tucker: interesting. do you think you can have that, that you can live peacefully in this country unmolested? >> i hope so. but i can't read the future. i'm hoping that people go back in and understand the facts and be like, watch the trial, watch the prosecutorial misconduct that i believe happened. and realize that i was an innocent 17-year-old who was violently attacked and defended myself. >> because you wanted to clean graffiti and protect a car lot? >> and apparently a lot of people on the left, it's criminal to want to protect your community. >> tucker: do you feel like your life has been destroyed by this? >> i feel my life has been extremely defamed by it. i don't think i would be able to go out and get a job and not have to deal with harassment, but i'm at a place now to where i have to have people with me, because people want to kill me just because i defended myself, and they are too ignorant to look at the facts of what happened. >> tucker: do you feel the threats? >> i do. i see some of the threats. some of the things people say is absolutely sickening. >> tucker: are you confident that the government will protect you from these threats because that's, of course, the government's job? >> i hope so. but we all know how the f.b.i. works. >> tucker: yeah. i mean, looking back, it's been, you know, a year and a half, less than even, this is not the life that you planned. >> no. it is far from the life i planned. this is something that i wish never would have happened. but it did and we can't change that. but how it's been -- how it polar -- how polarized it became is absolutely sickening. right or left. people using me for a cause that should never have been used as a cause. >> tucker: i read that you're not going to stay in the midwest. >> i am not. before this i actually wanted to move to naples, florida. then this happened. but i don't know where i'm going to go. i'm going to go lay low and live my life and enjoy it. >> tucker: why are you so calm? >> i'm a farley calm person. i find it to be a problem when people are overreacting, because things are out of our control. so i try not to deal with that. >> tucker: i mean, just -- >> believe me, on the inside i'm freaking out. >> tucker: for the record, you know, you just got acquitted. >> yes. >> tucker: like two days ago. that was the first thing i noticed, that you seem very calm. you don't seem like someone who has just been through, you know, has his mind blown. >> on the inside i'm freaking out but the best thing you can do, you freak out everybody else freaks out. it's like a chain reaction so the best thing i can do is stay calm. >> tucker: do you feel like you've been watched over? >> i believe god has been on my side from the beginning. >> tucker: hard to imagine could you have watched the whole trial and then watch those 48 minutes and come away thinking kyle rittenhouse is a monster. just the opposite actually. as we said, this is a boy who sincerely believed in the promises of america. do the right thing. be honest. work hard to turn himself into the police. their response, they pepper sprayed him. he had to drive across state lines to turn himself into the police. it's an amazing story and it's a deeply sad story for what it says not about him but about the rest of us. >> we've got reactions from judge jeannine perreault and behind the scene footage that were shot behind the scenes of the rittenhouse trial. that's all next. >> tucker: we will talk to judge jeanine in a moment. first a sample of what we gathered behind-the-scenes for our documentary series tucker carlson originals. this is a new documentary for fox nation. here is a bit of it. >> it's the stuff that it keeps you up at night. once you finally get to sleep, your dreams are about what happened and you wake up in a dark, cold sweat. >> you still have dreams? >> every single night. it's quite scary, actually, because the dreams feel so real. they are all different scenarios that run through your head. what could have happened. i am alive but what could have happened? what if i wasn't alive? what i didn't [inaudible]? it's bad. almost every outcome is me getting seriously injured or hurt. those are the dreams i have on a daily basis. >> the defendant will rise and face the jury. >> the first count. information we find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. as for the second count of the information, we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. >> how do you feel, man? >> the jury reached the correct verdict. self-defense is not illegal. i believe they came to the correct verdict. it's been a rough journey, but we made it through it. we made it through hard part. >> tucker: that comes out in a few weeks. you can get free access to watch it on fox nation. we got a lot of footage in that trial am it will be out in december. to put a bow on what we saw we want to talk to our friend judge jeanine. what did you think of that? >> it's amazing you got this interview, tucker. i must tell you, i was blown awray by the interview. this young man is far more intelligence than people gave him credit for. there are many more dimensions to him than people realize. they saw him as a 17-year-old from a small town with a boyish demeanor. what we heard was a young man who understood the enormity of the ramifications of his trial. he recognized it was not about kyle rittenhouse. it was about the right of self-defense. he was smart enough to articulate. he was smart enough to recognize what he was going through was about american law and the constitution and his right to defend himself. what will shock people is he was very articulate in his description of supporting the black lives matter movement. then said if someone were of color and in the same situation i would be worried for them. i hope they would have the same resources i have. all of the things he did in his life were to it help people. when you said to him, why are you so calm? he said i learned i can't get upset about things i can't control. you have to be 50 before you figure that out. he has a tremendous future. he is not angry. when you asked him about the president what he would say. he didn't come back like a normal 18-year-old punk. i would say mr. president, if you could go back and look at the facts you would realize what you said is inaccurate. everything he said and the fact he was able to go through all of this, never get angry or lose his cool. you said don't you want to hold people accountable? he said my lawyers, i will leave that up to him. you said don't you want to hold them accountable. like i said, i will leave that to my lawyers. he was aware of the consequences of the cross-examination. nothing moves him off the truth. this young man is a truth teller. this young man is for more mature than his years. even a mother -- his mom wanted him to hide. he said no, i have to face it. like he did that night when he put his hands up and tried to turn himself to the police. they pepper sprayed him. he didn't have anything negative to say about the police. he is literally going through hell. the police are not there. his community is being burned down and he is willing t bless ♪ mark: hello america, i am mark levin, this is "life, liberty and levin," look where we are mara lag -- mar-a-lago, president trump. a pleasure. >> you write to great

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firearm. rittenhouse didn't go to kenosha looking for trouble. his father lived there. he worked as a lifeguard in keno shacked on august 25 last summer he went downtown to stand guard over a car lot. here's the context. the night before, police in kenosha had done nothing at the mobbed and burned businesses, including a car lot, all the way to the ground. so they needed rittenhouse's help. they were looking for a 17-year-old to help if that gives you some perspective. as rittenhouse stood there rioters threatened his life. then they attempted to kill him. in the end rittenhouse shot three people as he tried to run to police. in fact, all three men were white and all three had serious criminal records. we could go on. again, the media coverage was from beginning to end a tapestry of lies. if you watched the trial last week you know that but what about rittenhouse himself? what is he like? apart from his testimony in court few americans have ever her his voice. over the next hour we'll let kyle rittenhouse speak for himself. you can make up your own mind but before we start one observation which we can't resist making. it's hard to ignore the class divide between rittenhouse and the media. rittenhouse comes if the least privileged sector of our society. during high school he worked as a janitor and a cook to help support his family. last year he got into college at arizona state and he's very proud of it. in the world kyle rittenhouse grew up in it's not a given that kids go to college. not even close. during the considers of our long conversation, rittenhouse struck us as bright, decent, sincere, dutiful and hard working. exactly the kind of person would you want many more of in your country. he's not especially political. he never wanted to be a symbol of anything. rittenhouse just wanted to keep violent lunatics from setting fire to cars. in the american he grew up in that was considered virtuous. so if rittenhouse seems a little bewildered at points thinking over the last year and what happened to him that's probably why. a lot of things he assumed to be true about this country turned out to not be true at all. in that way he speaks for many of us. here's rittenhouse. >> tell me, kyle, how you wound up in kenosha that day. >> well, it actually started on august 24. i was working my job as a lifeguard at the rec plex in kenosha county and the riots were still going on and a curfew was applied so i went to dominic black's house and i stayed the night over there, and saw the videos of the riots and the arson going on. >> what did you think of it? >> it was upsetting because kenosha is my community. and i just was upset seeing my community up in flames. >> tucker: yes. i guess you were. so you're at your friend's house that night. you've come back from working as a lifeguard. >> yes. >> tucker: and then you decide to go in, first you're cleaning up graffiti, correct? >> yes. i spent the night august 24. we wake up in the morning and we were talking, let's go help our community. let's go see what we can do and winded up at -- central high school where we were cleaning graffiti for a couple of hours, and then we met with the owners of car source, and we offered to protect their business from fires, making sure their other two properties didn't get burned down like they did the night prior, and they agreed. we came back. we went back to dominic's house, and hung out there for a little bit and then we went to car source to help protect the property and make sure it didn't get set on fire again. >> tucker: so you get there. what do you see? >> when i get there, i see, in the beginning, the morning, i see just spray paint everywhere. i see smoke coming from the car service that was burnt down and it was quite upsetting, that somebody's business got destroyed. >> tucker: so you said to the people who owned the car lot, i want to protect your cars and they said yes, please. >> i said, hey, i asked if they needed any help and they said yes, if you can. >> where were the police? >> i'm not sure really because they have a hard job for sure, but i didn't really think they got the support they needed. the national guard should have been called. august 23. but the city of kenosha failed the community. the governor, tony evers, failed the community and there should have been a lot more resources to help with that. >> tucker: that's for sure. you've been criticized for carrying a firearm into the scene. but it's obvious from the tape that a lot of people -- you weren't the only one with a firearm. there were rioters with firearms, did you see that? >> yes. >> tucker: you saw other people with guns. >> i did. there were a lot of people, like there were rioters with firearms. i remember one very succinctly, joshua, was walking around with a pistol in his hand all that night with joseph rosenbaum. >> tucker: where did you first see rosenbaum? >> the first time i saw rosenbaum was the first time he threatened to kill me. it was at the corner of the car source lot that i was at primarily that night, and i was asking people if they needed medical and he came up to me and ryan paul said, if i catch any of you mfors alone i'm going to fing kill you. >> had you ever seen him before? >> i had not. >> tucker: so you never had seen this guy and he walks up and threatens to kill you out of nowhere? >> yes. it was quite shocking. why would somebody threaten to kill me. i'm just asking if people need help on both sides. i was there just to help anybody that needed it, and shockingly, the only people i helped that night were rioters. >> tucker: what kind of sense did you get from rosenbaum, i mean, that sounds deranged? >> when he threatened to kill me i was like, what the heck just happened? nobody has ever threatened to kill me up until that point. that's not something you say to somebody. >> tucker: how long after that was that it he tried to grab your rifle? >> it was about an hour and a half later, and there was actually a second time he said to the group, he said, this is the second time he threatened to kill everybody. he said, i'm going to f-ing kill you, cut your hearts out you f-ing words. >> tucker: cut your heart out? >> yes. >> tucker: did any of the rioters try to calm him down and stop him? >> what i noticed is the rioters were trying -- they were like disassociating with him because he was like spewing the n word around and they just didn't seem to want to have anything to deal with him, rioters. >> tucker: yes. so he customer, he tries to grab your rifle. he gets shot. you decided at that point, you want to go turn yourself into the police? >> yes. after i shoot mr. rosenbaum, he tried to grab my gun. i was running away. there was a gunshot behind me, after i shoot him i run around the car because i was going to go render first-aid to him. i wasn't able to because then, there was a mob forming, and calling for my execution to get him and kill him. and that's when i tried to run to the police line and get to the police, and then i am attacked again. >> tucker: by the guy who kicked you? >> jump kicked me, yes. >> tucker: whose identity we didn't know. it turns out the prosecution knew it and hid it. >> yes. so we found out november 7 the prosecution, we went into the judge's chambers and the prosecution said, we identified jump kick man, and the prosecution threw a fit a little bit. they didn't want us to interview him. there were like -- well, he's a victim. and didn't want my investigators or my attorneys to interview him or ask him questions. they just wanted to do it private, nonrecord it and the judge said, no, no, no. it's going to be recorded, and then a couple of hours later they say, oh, he asked for immunity and we're not going to give it to him so we won't be calling him as a witness. >> tucker: yes. probably didn't want to talk about his criminal record. >> yes. >> tucker: so you're running, trying to get to the police line. you see the mob coming after you, let's execute him, they are saying, and then out of nowhere you get dropped to the ground by the guy who kicks you in the head. did you see him coming? >> i did. to backtrack a little bit, actually, as i'm running -- came up to me with his fon and put it in my face and saying, what did you do? did you just shoot that man? i told him i'm going to the police, oh, okay, and ran off and i kept running to get to the police. and that's when anthony huber tribes me with a skateboard as i'm running when i'm on the ground the first time and i'm hit with a rock by somebody in a white tank top and that's how i end up on the ground. and i have four people around me from what i remember. and i move my firearm in the direction and they back off with their hands up so i don't shoot them and then jump kick man keeps coming and that's when i fired two shots at jump kick man. >> tucker: wow. and you miss him and he kicks you. >> yes. >> tucker: then what happens? >> after jump killing man is running off, anthony comes up and he grabs the barrel of my gun and then he hits me with his skateboards, holding his trucks, and that's when i shoot his one time. >> tucker: where did he hit you with his skateboard? >> he hit me in the back of the head, in the neck. the back of the head toward the neckline. >> tucker: did you think you were going to be killed at that point? >> i did. >> tucker: then what happens? >> then after mr. huber attacks me, mr. gross -- puts his hands up, and then i have my rifle pointed in his direction for about a second and once i lower my rifle i noticed that my ejection port has opened about an inch, and mr. gross said i pulled the charging handle which never happened. i reached forward to close the ejection ports and he sees me doing that or something and this time he runs at me and he has his gunpoint directly at my head. >> tucker: did you see the gun? >> i did. >> tucker: did you think he was going to shoot you? >> i did. he had it pointed directly at my head and that's when i shoot him one time and he is no longer a threat to me at that point because he ran off after i fired that shot. >> tucker: did you realize i hit him? >> i didn't know until later. >> tucker: so then what happens? >> there is a person directly in front of me and i point my rifle in their direction, and he puts his hands up, and he's backing up, and i then turn around, start going to the police, and then i hear shots behind me and i turn around and briefly raise my rifle to see if i'm being shot at. and then i realize i can't see who is shooting at me so then i turn around and go back to the police car. toward the police line. >> tucker: hearing this, it's just hard to believe this is happening in an american city. >> yeah. >> tucker: so then you finally get up. you hear shots. you turn to see who is shooting at you. and then you finally make it to the police line. >> yes. once i make it to the police cruiser, the police officer says get back. get back. get back. one of them has a gun out. another has pepper spray pointed at me, and i say, i just had to shoot somebody, i just had to shoot somebody and they say go home, and i didn't know this -- >> tucker: go home. >> yes. the officer said to go home. i don't think he knew what happened or heard me. there was a lot of chaos going on. >> tucker: yes. >> but apparently, he pepper sprayed me. you see it in the video but i don't remember being pepper sprayed by him too. too so then what happened? >> i say, okay. i go back to the car source, lots number two. we've been referring to car source one as the one that got burnt down. car source two is the one that i was at primarily the entire night and car source three is the one where i was attacked by mr. rosenbaum. i go back to car source lot number two, and i tell everybody there what happened. i said, i had to do it. i was just attacked. i was dizzy. i was vomiting. i couldn't breathe. and i was like, we couldn't -- i wanted to turn myself into the police in kenosha but i wasn't able to because they weren't accepting visitors, apparently with the barricades and the fence up so we ended up turning myself into the antioch police department. >> tucker: so you drove back across state lines as we're calling it. you couldn't even turn yourself in? >> no. i had to go to antioch police department, which, to my understanding, is the closest police department to kenosha. >> tucker: why do you think burning were burning car source what does that have to do with civil rights? >> i don't know. i think it was opportunists taking advantage of the movement. i agree with the bl movement. i agree everybody has a right to protest and assemble but i do not agree that people have the right to turn down. i don't appreciate that people are burning down american cities to try to spread their message. i think there are other ways to go around and do that. >> tucker: i agree with that completely. so you turn yourself into the antioch police. what do you think will happen at this point to you? >> i didn't know. i was in shock. my head was spinning from being hit in the head multiple times. i had some minor injuries. i just didn't know. i didn't know i was going to be arrested for defending myself, because everything was on video but part of the reason why i think i was arrested is because of the mob mentality. and they were like, oh, yes, we're just going to arrest him even though there were videos already out showing me being attacked and having to defends myself. >> tucker: so when was it that you were arrested? >> i was arrested on august 25 at around 6:00 a.m. i was formally arrested without a criminal complaint being drafted. they didn't know what they were charging me with yet. they just arrested me. >> tucker: at home? >> at the antioch police department. >> tucker: what did your parents say when you called them and told them what happened? >> i didn't call my mom after i saw her. she was in shock. she was like, she wanted to go into hiding. i said no, right thing to do would be to turn myself in. i didn't do anything wrong. >> tucker: so you knew that from the very beginning? >> i knew that. allot of people were like, oh, kyle had time to meet with his attorneys to come up with this amazing defense, self-defense, no, that's not the case. this has been a hundred percent self-defense from the beginning, and i didn't know there were a hundred cameras. but i did know i was attacked and i defended myself. >> tucker: what do you think would have happened to you if there hadn't been the amount of video that there is? >> i can't even imagine. i don't think we would be sitting here right now having this talk, tucker. >> tucker: that's for sure. you would never get out. rittenhouse knows perfectly well the only reason he's free is that he can prove what actually happened thanks to those videos but it didn't prevent him from going to jail anyway. he did for a longer period than most people understand. during that time he picked up a couple of attorneys who said would help him. in his view they badly abused him and his family and their trust. we'll tell you a lot about that in just a minute and about the prosecutors. also, a brief programming note, we had cameras behind the scenes throughout much of this case. our tucker carlson original documentary called the trial of kyle premiers in december. - [announcer] love the delicious taste of fried foods? now you don't have to say no. enjoy all the crunch without the calories when you create healthy, delicious meals with cuisinart air fryer toaster oven. our innovative technology lets you fry food with ultra hot air and 98% less oil for healthier results and no messy cleanup or lingering odors. with seven functions, this multitasking oven also bakes, broils, convection bakes and broils, warms, and toasts, so you'll use it every day. say yes to healthy and delicious with the cuisinart air fryer toaster oven. mom, hurry, our show's gonna start soon. won't be too long. i'm leaving work now. ♪ people around ♪ ♪ christmas ♪ oh no. seriously? 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>> once i'm arrested, i go to -- juvenile facility and i've got to say thank you to them for their professionalism. >> tucker: the jailers? >> the guards, depke. they were the upmost professional people i have ever met. >> tucker: really? >> exactly. some of the most professional people i have ever met. amazing. like they treated me with respect. and they didn't like talk down to you like you've seen like in some videos, they just treated me like i was a human. >> tucker: how long were you there? >> i was in jail for 87 days, and this falls in with linwood -- linwood was raising money on my behalf, and he held me in jail for 87 days, disrespecting my wishes. put me on media interviews which i should never have done, which he said, oh, you're going to go talk to the "washington post" which was not a good idea, along with john pierce. they said i was safer in jail instead of at home with my family, and then -- >> tucker: your lawyer said that? >> my lawyer said that, john pearson and linwood. >> tucker: 87 days is a long time to be in jail. >> it was very long. i lost a lot of weight. i've since gained it back too. too i know the feeling. >> yeah. but 87 days of not being with my family for defending myself and being taken advantage of, being used for a cause by these -- by john pierce and linwood, trying to solicit -- not solicit, trying to raise money so they can take it for their own benefit. not trying to set me free. >> tucker: so you think they could have raised the money for bail faster but they didn't? >> i believe -- sometime in september, september 5, i want to say, they had over a million dollars, and bail was set and able to be posted in september, so they could have had me sign the waiver for extradition and had me back in wisconsin, and i could have been bailed out by mid-september. but they wanted to keep me in jail until november 20. >> tucker: what was that like? >> it was scary in jail. like you had to watch over yourself. not a lot of people liked me in jail. the funny thing, is a lot of people didn't like me in jail but they got to hear my story and understand me, like, he's actually a really decent person. not this person that the media painted him out to be, and it was scary. i was able to make friends, acquaintances in jail and i played spades, card games with them. >> tucker: amazing. so you're in jail for 87 days. do off sense of how your case is being talked about in the outside world? >> not really when i'm in jail but once i am bailed out john pierce said i was an unorganized militia, which was just blatantly false. i didn't know what a militia was. >> tucker: your lawyer said you were a militia? >> i didn't know what militia was until after november 25, when i was watching some of the interviews. i'm not in a militia. i don't know what that is. >> tucker: sorry to laugh. >> i was like, what the heck, and i'm like, no wonder people are saying i'm in a militia. it's because he painted that narrative which he should have never have gone there too. too well, yes, it's untrue. >> exactly. >> tucker: were you surprised -- i haven't heard you mention race at all in this conversation. you said, you saw your community on fire. you wanted to help. you asked the business owner if you could help. were you surprised to see this framed as a racial story? >> to be honest, tucker, this case has nothing to do with race. it never had anything to do with race. it had to do with the right to self-defense. >> tucker: what a sweet kid. i think that comes through loud and clear. playing hearts in jail. but he seems confused by the descriptions of this case as pertaining somehow to race. what he didn't know when he was locked away for 87 days is that the media, spurred on by democratic politicians joe biden immediately branded him a white supremacist. the president of the united states did that and several members of congress. during the trial, one of the prosecutors, thomas binger, particularly loathesome cast, government lawyer, mocks kyle rittenhouse for putting out fires in kenotia. it's dishonorable to put out fires apparently. we asked rittenhouse about that. here's what he said. >> i'm not a racist person. i support the blm movement. i support people demonstrating. i believe there needs to be changed. i believe there is a lot of prosecutorial conduct, not just in my case but other cases. it's amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of somebody, like if they did this to me imagine what they could have done to patterson of color who maybe doesn't have the resources i do or widely publicized like my case. >> tucker: what did you make of the president of the united states calling you a white supremacist? >> mr. president, if i would say one thing to you, i would urge you to go back and watch the trial, and understand the facts before you make a statement. >> tucker: that's not a small thing to be called that. >> no, it's actual malice, defaming my character for him to say something like that. >> tucker: i mean, why do you think, and it's not simply biden who said that, it's a lot of people on television have said that. a lot. dozens of people have said that. i'm sorry to tell you that in case you haven't seen it. >> it's quite his hair cal. he crossed state lines, false. none of that is true. the lies that they can get away with spreading just sickening and it's a disgrace to this country. >> tucker: i couldn't agree more. before this, i mean, you're 17 years old so you're probably not watching cable news all day or deeply into politics. maybe you were, but did you know how dishonest the media coverage of events could be? >> i didn't. i have never seen something so polarizing in my life. when it's just, it's obvious self-defense. if you look at the case, you look at the facts, no matter what your opinion is or where you stand, this wasn't a political case. it shouldn't have been a political case. it was made a political case. this had nothing to do with race. and the ways people are twisting this, it's just sickening. i think a lot of people watching have reached the same conclusion and they would like to see you help make this better by holding some of these liars into account. do you plan to do that? >> i have really good lawyers who are taking care of that right now. so i'm hoping one day there will be some -- there will be accountability for their actions that they did. >> tucker: okay. so you're intent -- you're not going to let that go. >> like i said, really good lawyers are handling that. >> tucker: so during the trial, was there ever a point where you thought, despite the fact you had all of this video evidence on your side, bolstering your story, did you ever think, i might go to jail for this. >> that was a thought i had every single day until i got the not guilty verdict. >> tucker: really? >> because i didn't -- are you wear of -- jaw and demetrius is? >> tucker: yes. >> she did an amazing job but you still have that feeling in your stomach, what if somebody snuck their way on to the jury to convict me, so that was something that always went through my head but i know where i stand and i know i defended myself. >> tucker: were you surprised by the verdict? >> i wasn't. i thought they came to the correct verdict because it wasn't kyle rittenhouse on trial in wisconsin. it was the right to self-defense on trial. and if i was convicted, no one would be able -- no one would ever be privileged to defend their life against attackers and they came to the correct verdict of not guilty. >> tucker: so the media lies about the police shooting of jacob blake. a riot ensues. young people throughout the area rush to the riot to set things on fire. kyle rittenhouse shows up to prevent things from being burned to the ground. to prevent arson. guess whose side they take? 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>> actually i go to the jail when i'm 17. i'm in an adult jail, october 31, i'm extradited. which i agreed with. i wanted to go to the kenosha county jail to begin with. i wanted to be extradited to the kenosha county jail. i always wanted to be extradited. i had no problem that but he forgot to file -- he didn't even know i was going. so my attorney didn't know i was going to jail, which is quite sickening because he should have known. >> tucker: well, yes. that's the whole point of an attorney. >> thank god i have competent counsel now. but the jail was interesting. i was in my own room. it was kind of like, like a -- i'm going to describe it as a one star hotel. one star hotel. we'll go with a super 8. >> tucker: super 8. >> i had a desk. i had a shower. i had a toilet. i had a tv. i had a tablet. but i didn't have running water. >> tucker: seriously? >> i had a phone also but di not have running water so i didn't shower until november 20th. >> tucker: how long is that? >> from october 30 to november 20, i did not take a shower. i felt terrible, i lost weight. my health was degrading. if i was in there for a month longer i probably would have been in the hospital. >> tucker: no running water? >> no running water in my jail cell. >> tucker: did they let you out? >> to talk with my attorneys. i didn't really say anything about my running water because i don't like to bring attention to myself. i didn't want to draw any problems with any of the guards. so i was like, i'm just going to shut up and not mention that i don't have running water. but i didn't shower until november 20 and when i showered, i showered, i took like a three-hour shower. i had like blood, my skin was bleeding because, my skin was coming off of my body. it was just, the nastiest thing ever. and i feel bad for dave, who has been with me from the beginning, who helped to start freekyle usa.org, i feel bad for him because he had to smell me through that three-hour car ride. >> tucker: imagine putting that kid in jail. there were few people there that night who were this for the right reasons, who were trying to help, bring order out of disorder, and they put him in jail. the most infuriating part is the facts haven't changed. videotape of that night was available almost immediately to anyone who wanted to see it. it was very clear, this boy had acted in self-defense and they lobbed him up anyway because of political pressure. so what are kyle rittenhouse's plan for the future? 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now that he's been acquitted? here's that part of the interview. >> tucker: what do you think your life will be like after this? >> i'm hoping i can live a quiet stress-free life, and be free of any intimidation or harassment and just go on with my life as a normal 18-year-old kid attending coll >> tucker: you're going to go to college? >> i am in cleaning. i'm student at arizona state university. >> tucker: i mean, are you going to go to campus and -- >> i think i am. i want to. it's a lot of things we have to look into so i don't know for sure yet. but i do intend on going to campus. . pursuing a career in nursing. i may go into law, i haven't decided yet but i want to be a nurse so i've been doing the prerequisites for that. >> tucker: interesting. do you think you can have that, that you can live peacefully in this country unmolested? >> i hope so. but i can't read the future. i'm hoping that people go back in and understand the facts and be like, watch the trial, watch the prosecutorial misconduct that i believe happened. and realize that i was an innocent 17-year-old who was violently attacked and defended myself. >> because you wanted to clean graffiti and protect a car lot? >> and apparently a lot of people on the left, it's criminal to want to protect your community. >> tucker: do you feel like your life has been destroyed by this? >> i feel my life has been extremely defamed by it. i don't think i would be able to go out and get a job and not have to deal with harassment, but i'm at a place now to where i have to have people with me, because people want to kill me just because i defended myself, and they are too ignorant to look at the facts of what happened. >> tucker: do you feel the threats? >> i do. i see some of the threats. some of the things people say is absolutely sickening. >> tucker: are you confident that the government will protect you from these threats because that's, of course, the government's job? >> i hope so. but we all know how the f.b.i. works. >> tucker: yeah. i mean, looking back, it's been, you know, a year and a half, less than even, this is not the life that you planned. >> no. it is far from the life i planned. this is something that i wish never would have happened. but it did and we can't change that. but how it's been -- how it polar -- how polarized it became is absolutely sickening. right or left. people using me for a cause that should never have been used as a cause. >> tucker: i read that you're not going to stay in the midwest. >> i am not. before this i actually wanted to move to naples, florida. then this happened. but i don't know where i'm going to go. i'm going to go lay low and live my life and enjoy it. >> tucker: why are you so calm? >> i'm a farley calm person. i find it to be a problem when people are overreacting, because things are out of our control. so i try not to deal with that. >> tucker: i mean, just -- >> believe me, on the inside i'm freaking out. >> tucker: for the record, you know, you just got acquitted. >> yes. >> tucker: like two days ago. that was the first thing i noticed, that you seem very calm. you don't seem like someone who has just been through, you know, has his mind blown. >> on the inside i'm freaking out but the best thing you can do, you freak out everybody else freaks out. it's like a chain reaction so the best thing i can do is stay calm. >> tucker: do you feel like you've been watched over? >> i believe god has been on my side from the beginning. >> tucker: hard to imagine could you have watched the whole trial and then watch those 48 minutes and come away thinking kyle rittenhouse is a monster. just the opposite actually. as we said, this is a boy who sincerely believed in the promises of america. do the right thing. be honest. work hard to turn himself into the police. their response, they pepper sprayed him. he had to drive across state lines to turn himself into the police. it's an amazing story and it's a deeply sad story for what it says not about him but about the rest of us. >> we've got reactions from judge jeannine perreault and behind the scene footage that were shot behind the scenes of the rittenhouse trial. that's all next. >> tucker: we will talk to judge jeanine in a moment. first a sample of what we gathered behind-the-scenes for our documentary series tucker carlson originals. this is a new documentary for fox nation. here is a bit of it. >> it's the stuff that it keeps you up at night. once you finally get to sleep, your dreams are about what happened and you wake up in a dark, cold sweat. >> you still have dreams? >> every single night. it's quite scary, actually, because the dreams feel so real. they are all different scenarios that run through your head. what could have happened. i am alive but what could have happened? what if i wasn't alive? what i didn't [inaudible]? it's bad. almost every outcome is me getting seriously injured or hurt. those are the dreams i have on a daily basis. >> the defendant will rise and face the jury. >> the first count. information we find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. as for the second count of the information, we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. >> how do you feel, man? >> the jury reached the correct verdict. self-defense is not illegal. i believe they came to the correct verdict. it's been a rough journey, but we made it through it. we made it through hard part. >> tucker: that comes out in a few weeks. you can get free access to watch it on fox nation. we got a lot of footage in that trial am it will be out in december. to put a bow on what we saw we want to talk to our friend judge jeanine. what did you think of that? >> it's amazing you got this interview, tucker. i must tell you, i was blown awray by the interview. this young man is far more intelligence than people gave him credit for. there are many more dimensions to him than people realize. they saw him as a 17-year-old from a small town with a boyish demeanor. what we heard was a young man who understood the enormity of the ramifications of his trial. he recognized it was not about kyle rittenhouse. it was about the right of self-defense. he was smart enough to articulate. he was smart enough to recognize what he was going through was about american law and the constitution and his right to defend himself. what will shock people is he was very articulate in his description of supporting the black lives matter movement. then said if someone were of color and in the same situation i would be worried for them. i hope they would have the same resources i have. all of the things he did in his life were to it help people. when you said to him, why are you so calm? he said i learned i can't get upset about things i can't control. you have to be 50 before you figure that out. he has a tremendous future. he is not angry. when you asked him about the president what he would say. he didn't come back like a normal 18-year-old punk. i would say mr. president, if you could go back and look at the facts you would realize what you said is inaccurate. everything he said and the fact he was able to go through all of this, never get angry or lose his cool. you said don't you want to hold people accountable? he said my lawyers, i will leave that up to him. you said don't you want to hold them accountable. like i said, i will leave that to my lawyers. he was aware of the consequences of the cross-examination. nothing moves him off the truth. this young man is a truth teller. this young man is for more mature than his years. even a mother -- his mom wanted him to hide. he said no, i have to face it. like he did that night when he put his hands up and tried to turn himself to the police. they pepper sprayed him. he didn't have anything negative to say about the police. he is literally going through hell. the police are not there. his community is being burned down and he is willing t bless ♪ mark: hello america, i am mark levin, this is "life, liberty and levin," look where we are mara lag -- mar-a-lago, president trump. a pleasure. >> you write to great

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