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border, a little bit about his background as well. i couldn't be more proud of these two gentlemen. i think they are the future of journalism and look forward to talking to them. before we get there, something is about to happen in the next few days. you have heard about it in a platitudist way but very few specifics. i have spent a lot of time trying to dig up all the specifics in the 3.5 trillion dollars democrat bill that you've been hearing about. this is an omnibus bill. it is not 3.5 trillion dollars. i have found out it is also about 5.5 trillion dollars over ten years. the democrats are good at ponzi scream. in the private sector if you are involved a ponzi scheme, you go to prison for a long time. in the public sector, if you are involved a ponzi scheme, you are considered righteous and compassionate and so forth. that's what the democrats do. now, there's 50 democrats in the senate. 50 republicans in the senate. under our constitution, the vice president, wherever she is, she gets to show up at some point and break a tie. she's the president of the senate. that's pretty much all her responsibilities are under the constitution, and of course if the president dies, she steps in. in the house, it hasn't been this close in a century. there's 435 members of the house. and there is a three to four vote separation between them. three to four votes. the democrats view this as a massive mandate to destroy our country. now, we have inflation going through the roof. you see shortages taking place in terms of materials, even in the drive-throughs and so forth, you see prices going way up. all kinds of things going on in the economy that don't need to be going on in the economy, but for what this president and his party are doing. i want to talk to you about what they propose to do. i don't have all the details because they are not done writing this bill, and that's the other thing. they produce these omnibus bills, bigger than any telephone book in america. we don't even have telephone books anymore. encyclopedia, we don't have encyclopedias anymore. the internal revenue code, we sure as hell have that, massive regulations and requirements and so forth. that's the kind of bill they want to pass. now, in a representative republic like ours, you are supposed to be able to participate. how do you participate when you don't know all the details? how do you participate when you can't get into the capitol building? how do you participate when your own representatives don't know what's in the bill? they are going to put this omnibus bill together, not specific spending bills or specific budget bills or specific authorizing bills that work their way through the process, they lump them all together, they tell members you've got 48 hours to vote on it, people claim they know what's in it in the media. they don't have the foggiest idea. there's a vote, ran through by the democrats, and the hope is that one democrat senator from west virginia and one democrat senator from arizona will save the republicans. is that what this country is supposed to be about? of course not. so i went through this and found some of the stuff that's in this bill. you ready? might want to take notes. you will have to take them quickly. the irs will get almost 80 billion dollars more. they're going to hire from 75,000, they will hire up to 125,000 employees to monitor you. they want to monitor all bank accounts as well as paypal, venmo, cash app, etc., any transactions of $600 coming into your accounts or leaving your accounts. does that sounds like limits on billionaires or multi-billionaires? no. it will catch every american. they want to squeeze you. they want to audit you. because the dirty little secret is unless they punish the middle class, they will never get enough money. they also want to massively increase the american corporate tax rate, on our companies. and it will be so significant, that for many companies, they're going to pay a higher corporate income tax rate in the united states than they would pay in communist china and virtually every other industrialized country in the world. is that how you create competition and jobs? is that how you hire people and provide them with more benefits? no, i don't think so. price controls, they're very proud of this one. price controls, they want to tie it to six socialist healthcare systems in europe and australia as well. well, guess what that's going to do? that's going to drive up -- or cut 60% of research and development, research and development for new drugs. the estimate is by one study, that we will have 342 fewer drugs than we would otherwise have. now think about that. people who have or have family members with cancer or diabetes or heart disease or alzheimer's and so forth, we're going to slash the ability of these companies to make these investments. that's what happened to the rest of the world. an example, the galen institute reports that we americans have accessed 90% of new drugs when they come out. in the u.k. it is 60%. in japan it is 50%. in canada, it is 44%. that's what you get with government-run universal centralized healthcare. less healthcare and worse care. what else do they want to give? free universal prekindergarten, free community college, free 12 weeks of family leave. they want to extend the temporary child care credit with additional taxpayer subsidies for the rest of time. this is really considered a foot in the door for a minimum annual income that the government would pay people. think about where we're going with all this. they want to expand medicare to include dental, vision, and hearing and lower the age from 65 to 60. meanwhile, the trustees for medicare have said hey, guys, we're going broke in two to four years. does congress care? what have they done about that? nothing. they want to expand what's covered and expand the number of people who are covered. those of you on medicare, you will get whacked. what else does that bill do? it funds the green new deal. retrofitting buildings, subsidizing solar, wind, environmental justice and environmental equity, whatever the hell that means, electric government vehicles, tax so called methane. that might be a problem for certain members of congress. carbon dioxide production, tax it. what are they going after? meat, fossil fuels and so forth. they want to subsidize low-income housing. gee, that's never been tried before. they want to create sustainable housing. public transportation, boy, if that's no t a black hole, i don't know what is. rental assistance, federal zoning, suburbs, they are targeting you in this bill. they want to indock tri nate -- indoctrinate hundreds of thousands of people to address climate change, whatever that means, the whole degrowth movement. i have barely touched it. that's what we know right now. there's many many taxes in this bill, much more redistribution of wealth in this bill. all kinds of crazy snuck into the footnotes of this bill. we, the american people, this is going to change our lives. it may destroy our jobs. it may destroy our lifestyle. it can kill the economy, drive up inflation even further. we have no idea how this is going to work. now, i thought we were a constitutional republic. i thought about this. how much of this is actually constitutional? almost none of it. what do you mean, mark? almost none of it. the new deal, franklin roosevelt had a massive majority in the house and the senate, and he used that to drive through the new deal. the new deal, so much of it was unconstitutional. the court said so. but then he threatened the court. then the court reversed. then the court started to rubber stamp his proposals. then we have the great society and much before and after, again, lyndon johnson had massive majorities in the house and the senate, he pushed through what could be effectively the second new deal. how much of that was constitutional? almost none of it. mark, are you opposed to medicare and medicaid? it is not what i'm opposed to. if these programs are so popular and many of them are, then change the constitution. don't just impose your will on the american people because people like something or because certain things are just or what have you. that's beside the point. now, massive majority, and now we have this congress, 5050 in the senate, a bare majority in the house? this bill touches everything. every social, cultural, civil aspect of our society, the finances, and economic system of our society. it reaches into every family in this country. they wanted to push amnesty through here. the parliamentarian who has done a very poor job in my view up to now. they said amnesty is not a budget issue. they said ignore the parliamentarian. kill the filibuster rule. 50/50 in the senate with a little majority in the house, we control everything. when you look at this, and then their desire to change the voting system, so 16 and 17-year-olds can register to vote. not that they should vote yet, mind you, to make sure that anybody who votes is not challenged, ever, to make sure the voting roles aren't cleared, ever, of people who have died or in various communities and so forth and so on. they want to destroy the voting system on top of everything else. then you have biden's executive orders with the racist critical race theory, destroying girl sports in high school and college with the genderism agenda. then you have the attacks on all these institutions and traditions that we have in this country. open borders, immigration is a complete disaster. you know, we can do an entire several shows on that. you see what happened in afghanistan. you see how he's mishandling the virus. ladies and gentlemen, it is well beyond time to put your foot down. these bills that they want to pass, these executive orders, these decisions that these democrats and their president are making are killing this country. they're transforming this country in a way that you never agreed to. they're cutting us out of the process. they like to cite polls. bernie sanders likes to say this poll shows this -- hey, bernie, hey would you like free healthcare? sure, i would like free healthcare. do you know that means there will be less drugs? wait a minute. let me think about it. that's not in the poll. what bernie sanders doesn't like is true public participation because most american marxists don't. ladies and gentlemen, that's the situation right now. but i want to move on to the rest of the program, two stars in my view of modern day journalism in on fox, two colleagues. when we return, we'll start with peter doocy. i will be right back. centrum multigummies aren't just great tasting... they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy. loaded with b vitamins... ...and other key essential nutrients... ...it's a tasty way to conquer your day. try centrum multi gummies. now with a new look. >> mark: welcome back, america. our first guest is peter doocy, who is the white house correspondent for fox news channel. but before we get to peter, i have a little gift for you, a little surprise for you. go. >> has president biden ever been to the southern border? >> in his life? >> yes. >> i will have to look back in my history books and check the times he's been to the southern border. >> following up on this very basic but very important question, you're telling us that the dhs chief has the most recent numbers about how many of these haitians under the bridge have been sent back and how many have been released into the u.s. the dhs chief is telling us that he doesn't know, so who else can we ask? >> you can certainly ask the department of homeland security -- >> is somebody asking the foreign nationals who are walking into del rio texas for proof of vaccination? >> as individuals come across the border, and they are both assessed, if they have symptoms, they are -- the intention is for them to be quarantined. they are not intending to stay here for a lengthy period of time. >> it's a requirement for people in a business with more than 100 people. it is not a requirement for migrants tat southern border. -- at the southern border. why? >> that's correct. >> you guys didn't kill people who went after our troops. you killed seven civilians including seven children. -- ten civilians including seven children. does the president think these over the horizons can work? >> absolutely. >> mark: peter doocy, welcome to the program. tell us about yourself, your age, where you went to school, why you're interested in this business and so forth. >> i'm a 34-year-old villanova grad. i got married a few months ago. my wife and i live in a d.c. suburb because it is good to get out of washington after a long day at the office sometimes. and i actually -- a lot of people have been watching my dad in the morning on "fox & friends" for almost 20 years now. i always thought he had a very cool job, but i can credit john mccain for getting into the business because when i was in college, chris matthews msnbc hard ball college tour came to campus, while he was running for president. i thought it would be cool because i was interested in politics, so i went, and there was a producer from the show polling the audience. does anybody have any questions for john mccain? and i raised my hand. it was the same day or the day after hilary clinton had been at a photo op drinking shots with some voters elsewhere in pennsylvania. and so i told this producer, i would like to ask john mccain if he wants to go for a shot with me. and they were not checking ids luckily. and he said can you make that more interesting? i will come back to you. so i thought on it. the producer came back and said okay, did you make your question more interesting? i said yeah, i want to ask john mccain if he thinks that hilary clinton is just drinking those shots because she's trailing obama by so much, and if he wants to go for a shot with me. and the producer said oh, that's great. you can go second, and i asked him. he had a funny reaction. some producers from fox wanted a young guy to go to the conventions that year, the 08 conventions in minneapolis st. paul and in denver, and i went, did some man on the street stuff, and then just kind of kept going from there. and i will note, once i got to d.c., john mccain loved -- the late john mccain loved telling that story to people. >> mark: that's a great story. now, let's bring us up to today. how do you get ready for one of these press conferences? obviously tough -- obviously you have to see what's in the news. it seems to me you are examining what's going on. some things may not make sense to you based on what a cabinet secretary is saying, what the white house is saying, and in many cases you are trying to get them to square it up. how do you approach this every day? >> for a relatively young person, i have a ton of joe biden knowledge built up in my brain from being with him for the last two and a half years, and what i always try to do is just think about what he is saying presently and then how that is possibly not lining up with things that he has said in the past, and that's not just in the past two and a half years that i have been with him. he has a very long career. you go through the c-span archives of this person, and you have got thousands of hours of material to work with, and so what i like to do is just kind of compare and contrast joe biden and joe biden, and i've been lucky enough to get his attention a number of times during events and at the end of events to ask him directly, and usually if i can get his attention, i am just trying to ask him about why something that he is saying now is different than something he said in the past. to his credit, he seems like he really enjoys having abopportunity to be challenged and to defend himself >> mark: does the press secretary psaki enjoy throwing to you and allowing you to ask questions? or does she say oh no here he comes? >> i don't know what she says under her breath, but to her credit, she's called on us knock on wood every single briefing, it wasn't every day in the beginning because of covid, we were there three out of five, but every single briefing she does call on us. i think she always knows that i'm going to have a couple of fastballs in there. but i try not to throw her any curveballs. if there's something that i am going to be discussing or asking her about, that may not be on the front pages, i will send her a story, a news story, like a topic, never a question in advance, but i will say just so you know, this is something i'm interested in. if there's time at the briefing, and the reason i do that is because it doesn't do us -- it doesn't do me, it doesn't do fox any good to just spring something on her live on tv that she doesn't know about because then she says well, i will have to check or i will have to get back to you. that is not a helpful sound bite really for our business, but it's not helpful information, so i do appreciate that even when she has a heads up, that there's going to be something that is a little different. she keeps pointing to me and says go ahead. >> mark: and yet conversely, your questions aren't like some of your colleagues who say, you know, the president is having a hell of a day. i understand he's doing this. he's been successful in that. then they put a question mark at the end f it. -- the end of it. your questions and the way you ask them are very very respectful in my view, and i think the american people agree with me, even though they can be very [inaudible]. you have managed to accomplish that at a very young age, where people like jim acosta and so forth to this day are incapable of it. we'll be right back. shingles? camera man: yeah, 1 out of 3 people get shingles in their lifetime. well that leaves 2 out of 3 people who don't. i don't know anybody who's had it. your uncle had shingles. you mean that nasty red rash? and donna next door had it for weeks. yeah, but there's nothing you can do about it. camera man: actually, shingles can be prevented. shingles can be whaaaat? camera man: prevented. you can get vaccinated. baby, call the doctor. camera man: hey! you can also get it from your pharmacist! 50 years or older? get vaccinated for shingles now. >> jon: welcome to fox news live. i am jon scott. the women's march reaching the steps of the u.s. supreme court. the march in washington on saturday is part of nationwide protests demanding continued access to abortion. the demonstrations come just days before the start of a new term for the supreme court, which could decide the future of abortion laws in the united states. police say they have found a body believed to be that of a missing florida college student. the 19-year-old disappeared a week ago, vanished on the same day a maintenance man improperly used a master key to enter her apartment. the maintenance worker is considered the prime suspect, but he was found dead of an apparent suicide on monday. he had repeatedly rebuffed romantic advances by the man -- the 19-year-old had repeatedly rebuffed romantic advances by the man. i'm jon scott. now back to life, liberty and levin. >> mark: welcome back, peter doocy, many times when i watch these press conferences including the back and forth with you and the press secretary, you're left at the end of the press conference with questions really unanswered. and my question to you is, do you ever feel after one of these press conferences that really you haven't gotten the answers that you need, that in fact, the answers should be rather simple? like what are the numbers for this or for that? and that sometimes they're just blowing smoke? >> i wouldn't say necessarily blowing smoke, but there have been sometimes where i will go back and listen to an answer and either realize that i am going to have to follow up on this the next day or the next chance that i have to be in a briefing or just that this is all we're going to get from this white house. they do a lot of planning. you know, i put a ton of thought -- sometimes hours a day into the question and the research before a briefing. i know that they are doing the same thing. so if we are getting very limited information, someone from the white house has decided this is all we're going to give them. and no matter how many times you ask or how many different ways you ask, sometimes that's just going to be it. but my experience with those kinds of answers has been very limited. i do find that they take enough questions and they answer them with enough depth that we do have more of an understanding of what they are trying to do after a briefing. >> jon: are you frustrated after the president makes a statement or gives a speech, he turns around and walks out? i mean, it is one thing to question the press secretary, but she's a go between. does it not frustrate you? i mean, president trump, the media had full access to him. other presidents, much more access. but biden doesn't seem the same. i can tell you, as a viewer, as a citizen, it is very frustrating to me. >> sometimes he will walk away without calling on anybody for a question, and that is not necessarily helpful for putting together a script for a bret baier show by 6:00, but i have found at least in a majority of the events that i have been in with him, that he's somebody who will kind of linger around the microphone and just listen to see what the question is going to be, and i have been on the record as talking about how for more than a year, when they would give the president or the former vice president or president elect, whatever stage we were at, when they would give him a list of people to call on, the staff would give him a list, we were never on it, but he continuously would just linger around, listen to see okay, what's that tall blonde guy in the back barking at me about today? he more often than not does give us at least a quick answer, and so yeah, sometimes he walks away. we want more. but i don't think that we're going to get any president every single time. >> mark: no, but it would be nice if we got him a few more times. i mean, i think it is pretty obvious to the public that he probably has a higher percentage of walk-outs, back turning than most other presidents. how do your colleagues treat you? after a press conference, do any of them come up and say good job, or do any of them come up and say anything? >> if anybody amongst the press corps has a problem with me or the way i am doing things, they haven't told me. they haven't said it to me. and i have a polite relationship with everybody else that they rotate in through the front row, and there is a lot of standing and sitting around because joe biden himself has said he is always late, and the photographers and the other reporters and i have a pretty good relationship, at least the way i see it. >> mark: and yet, the press did come together and did object to some of the ways in which biden and his people have treated the press, including when the prime minister of great britain was there and he took some questions, and biden kind of blew off questions to him and then left. that was kind of weird, don't you think? >> it was interesting because when jen psaki was asked about that, she blamed boris johnson. she said he decided to take questions. he did not alert us to that ahead of time. but really the reason that the press pool that day filed a formal complaint with her, it wasn't because boris johnson was calling on reporters, it was because as soon as the u.s. press tried to ask joe biden something, the biden staff raised their voices to get everybody out in a way that made it impossible especially with a mask to understand what he was saying, if he was saying anything constructive, and so that was the issue. but the official response from the white house is that they are going to blame boris. >> mark: at least they didn't blame trump. peter doocy, i want to thank you very much. keep up the good work. you have a wonderful family as well. you really are even at a young age, demonstrating to so many people what journalism is all about. god bless you, my friend. >> that means a lot. thank you, mark. >> mark: we will be right back. up to one million dollars. that's how much university of phoenix is committing to create 400 scholarships this month alone. because we believe everybody deserves a chance. see what scholarships you may qualify for at phoenix.edu got directv stream. now we can watch live setv and on demand.ps you may qualify for serena... scary movie... serena... scary movie... serena williams ready to serve. ahh! quiet, please. triple match point serena williams... this is her moment. ahh! quiet, please. ahh! quiet, please! get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream, with no annual contract. you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean- not spreadsheets. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire >> mark: hello, america. welcome back. lawrence jones is with us. he's ubiquitous on fox. there's a reason for that. he's a smart dude. very very smart. he has very good responses that are very unique to situations that are going on in this country and that we're presented with on the very shows. it is a pleasure to see you, my friend. >> it is an honor to be on your program. >> mark: thank you. tell america a little bit about yourself, your age, where you come from. >> i'm a simple man from dallas texas. my mom got pregnant with me at 16. my dad married her. they had me. i'm the oldest of three. i have lived the american dream, struggling, and then being instilled with values that said you have to work hard to get where you want in life. i've been on the left. i've been on the right. and now i'm more of a libertarian that wants to check government and government officials. and that's my job, to speak up for my community, to speak up for the voiceless, the forgotten men and women in this country. i don't believe there's an unbiased press. i'm honest about me being a libertarian, but i also hold both sides accountable. if you're on the right that has promised to the fox news audience that you will work for them every single day and you come on the program and want to just give talking points, i'm probably not going to be too happy. but also if you are a vice president that promised you will visit the border and speak out for people and you're nowhere to be found, i have to a lot to say about you too. i call it like i see it, mark. >> mark: how did you get involved in this business? >> yeah, i mean, i was just a college student that had a video camera that came under the school [inaudible], and stories went viral that i did. eventually i worked with some smaller companies, conservative companies, and then one day i'm on fox news, and doing some hits, and i think i was a contributor at the time. sean hannity saw me and just wanted to have a conversation about the future for me, and he wanted to make sure that i was staying grounded, and he called me a star. i was like, you know, i don't know about that. i'm just living my life. he goes, you know, lawrence, why don't you be my man on the street? i said, absolutely not, sean. i'm a libertarian. you are a conservative republican. i think we're going to disagree sometimes. and sean says i like when we disagree. and he said lawrence, why don't you just give it a shot for a week. and so i gave it a shot for a week, and he says, lawrence, if you do this for me, i will never tell you what to do. i will never stifle your voice. just be lj. that's all he always requires. stay humble. remember your dad's a truck driver, your mom the preacher, and treat people with respect and be you, and we'll be okay. and he said if you do that, you won't even know my name. you won't even take my phone call in two years. i still take his phone calls, but i'm no longer just his correspondent. fox has given me a larger role, and i'm grateful for that. >> mark: talking about sean hannity. people don't understand what a down to earth, decent kind human being he is. he got me started in radio. he said to me, mark, you are on as a guest. you need your own show. i first heard about you, lawrence, from sean. and you really are a standout in so many ways, and i want to ask you a couple of down to earth questions here. obviously you're african american. you're libertarian. you don't tow the usual line one way or another. do people in the african american community, particularly politicians, or opinion makers, or in the media and so forth, if you do speak to them, and if they do speak to you, how do they treat you? >> you know, it's interesting. there is the black elites, and then there's the people. so most of the time you see me on fox, i'm somewhere in the community, talking with people. a lot of times that look like me, talking about the violence that's happened, the broken education system. and then i'm hosting diners in middle america. i get a diverse opinion. i've got your trump voters. i've got your democratic voters, but i'm still accepted in all those communities. the people are only interested in people that care about them, so i get a lot of love and respect from people that look like me that are actually in the community. i get to go back to my same old barbershop. the black elites, the people in media that have an issue with the way i do things, and it's simply because they can't control me, one, and number two, they realize that the people know me because i'm there covering their stories that they won't cover, so i think if you judge me, based on what you see on social media, from the pundits, then you'll say okay, maybe black america is rejecting this idea of lawrence jones, and what he believes, but if you go down on the ground and see the communities that i get to talk with on a daily basis, i think you will get a much different picture. >> mark: you say you're libertarian. libertarians as a thumbnail sketch believe in ordered liberty. i mean, not in every case do they move in that direction, but that's the foundation. that's the core of it. that every human being has a right to live their lives, not bothered by government unless there's a reason for it. you see what's going on in our country today. it is far from libertarianism. i would argue that it is much closer to what i call american marxism, certainly an autocratic type system that's developing. we see it is getting worse. what do you think about all this? what do you think is going to happen to the country in the near future? >> you know, mark, i think we're on the path of destruction because we're losing our foundation as a country. you know, who needs al qaeda and the taliban to destroy us when we're going to kill ourselves from the inside? i mean, there are people that don't believe in the foundation of america. i like to believe that although we have some challenges, and we may have gotten some things wrong, it is the founding documents that is our greatest defense, weapon to go against government when they try to violate one's liberty. and you have a lot of people that don't believe that. you have the democratic party that believes that america at its core, government itself, is bad and hates all people. but then they feel -- that same government they feel is racist is the same government that's going to correct things. they confuse me. and then you've got the republican side at times where they say they value liberty. they say they value freedom, but none of the leaders really want to fight for the people. they like the government that they like. and so that's how i end up on the libertarian side is because i was so tired of the democrats just completely getting it wrong, and then the republican side constantly saying they were going to fight for us and not doing that. and so my foundation is very clear. i believe that we have a role to fight for the people that can't speak for themselves. that means the unborn. i believe the government should check the state when the state abuses its power. but i also believe that in many cases you have people like cops and border patrol agents that are just out there doing their job, and when one abuses, it makes them all look bad. we go after the bad actors there. >> mark: i think that's brilliantly put. we will be right back. what makes new salonpas arthritis gel so good for arthritis pain? 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what's your take? >> let's first talk about maxine watters and what she had to say before we even get into the border patrol agent who was doing his job and following the training that was given to him. i've seen this numerous amount of times because i have been covering the border for five years under the trump administration and now the biden administration. there's no way that you can compare this to slavery because the slaves didn't come here willingly. they came here against their own will, and they never had the opportunity to fight for their own country. so you just can't compare the two. i don't know where the democrats are going with this. actually i do know where they are going with this, which is why they keep playing this image over and over and over. they want to gaslight black americans. i will tell you why. if you look at the tactic that they use in this situation, whip, they know what that does. even me as black american, you hear the word whip, you hear the word a horse chasing down a black person, you hear the words of you're not welcome in this country, right? they were trying to gaslight from emotional standpoint, because when black people see that and hear that in their mind, they have a visceral reaction to that. so what really happened there? first of all, the border patrol agent on the horseback, that wasn't a whip. they don't carry whips. it was a split rein, and it is used to control the horse. it is a tactic that's been used for years and years. maybe i know this because i've covered the border. i'm a texan and know how to control a horse. but i think the democrats know as well. number two, no one got hit. no one got hit, even with the reins, but they knew that. but they put that out there for the public to see because they wanted people to be triggered emotionally. and number three, they weren't telling the folks there they were welcome -- they weren't welcome because of the color of their skin. they were telling them they weren't welcome to go through this path because they did not go through a port of entry to apply for asylum. that is the facts there. but they knew that. and what are we talking about right now? we're talking about that incident because the democrats wanted this to be the smoke. they want it to be the smoke to cover from the real crisis that's happening at the border, and i think that's quite disgusting, mark. >> mark: i think you are quite right, and this constant race baiting can only be destructive to this country. and in terms of the biden policy, we don't have a lot of time left, but this is intentional, isn't it? people coming in here, we can talk about the technical terms, notice to reply, notice to attend, and all these other things, but basically thousands and thousands of haitians like thousands and thousands of people from country south of the border are pouring into this country illegally. we don't know nothing about them. we don't know if they have the virus. actually we know many of them do. this is obviously intended because president trump showed how to shut it down, and president biden has absolutely no interest in shutting any of it down, does he? >> no, he doesn't. the border patrol can't do their job. i just came from the border. border patrol is not securing the border. they are handling processing. it is the state of texas through the texas state troopers that are there holding the line at the border. to be fair, mark, the last defense of america right now when it comes to this border is the state of texas because they are the only ones that are handling the enforcement. the last thing i would say to the vice president kamala harris, as well as the president of the united states, if you really care about black people, why aren't you covering the other stories that are happening in our community? i mean i beg the national press to join me when there's violence happening in our communities and the community is begging for support. i begged them to cover the broken education system, but they choose the teachers union. i beg them to cover the businesses that can't do good business because government continues to put regulation and regulation on them. so forgive me if i don't take them seriously on this issue in them saying that they care when they don't even do it for black americans in this country. >> mark: beautifully put. very well put, lawrence. i want to thank you for what you do. i want to thank you for your fresh thinking and fresh voice. you take care of yourself. god bless you. >> god bless you, brother. >> mark: we will be right back. :: .. go with simparica trio it's triple protection made simple! simparica trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. dogs get triple protection in just one simparica trio! this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions, including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. protect him with all your heart. simparica trio. mark: welcome back. first of all, america because i want to thank you for being engaged and gal extra needs. for your liberty and your well-being and that of your family and fellow americans. "americans marxism" has sold over a million copies. it's been number one on the "new york times" best seller list for over a month. the reason isn't because of my name on the book it's because the contents of the book. you are the framers and founders of this country. the first paragraph of the constitution says we the people of the united states in order to form a more perfect union provide for the general defense and promote the public welfare for the united states of america. you, your ancestors, ancestors of others created this nation. we the people created this declaration of independence. it's about damn time washington, d.c. understood this. we need to fight with the democrats on what they are doing to this country in the coming week. they want to turn the constitution inside out and the declaration of independence inside out and make it not we the people, but we the bureaucrats and democrats. see you next time on "life, liberty & levin." 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