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Make can change, literally change the trajectory of our nation. Chris the White House sounding the alarm on raising the Nations Debt limit, warning medicaid, Food Stamps and Disaster Relief are at stake. Theyre eager to jam through a massive, multi trillion dollar reckless taxing and spending spree. Chris while democrats remain split over a three andahalf trillion dollar social Spending Plan. Well talk with John Yormath about the deadline and the split among democrats. Plus, Joint Chiefs chair, general Mark Milley, Under Fire for his Phone Calls to ease chinas fears of an attack in the final days of the trump administration. Well ask our Sunday Panel whether his actions were responsible or over the line. And our Power Player of the week, fox Sports Insider Jay Glaser tells the biggest stories in football and now he is sharing his own. All right now on Fox News sunday. Chris and Hello Again from Fox News in washington. We begin with breaking news, if youre wondering what happened at that Rally Yesterday supporting people arrested in the January 6th Capitol Riot, Police Mobileized with the possibility of another disturbance but a small crowd of a few hundred people showed up and they protested peacefully. No violence, just four arrests. Meanwhile, President Biden suffered a setback in his fight against covid, an fda Advisory Panel rejected his plan to offer Booster Shots to all adults, saying only seniors and those most at risk should get them. And we have new Fox Polls on the issue. When it comes to teachers, 61 favor mandatory vaccinations. 58 favor a mandate for all government workers. And 56 agree with President Biden for businesses with more than 100 workers to mandate vaccines. Overall, 55 now approve of President Bidens handling of the pandemic, 11 points more than those who disapprove. But in june, his Approval Margins was 30 points. Well have more Fox Polls throughout the hour. And well discuss the controversy over Vaccine Boosters with dr. Fran sigh collins, director of francis collins, director of the national institutes of health. Lets get the latest from Mark Meredith, traveling with the president in delaware. Mark. Reporter for months the biden administration has been Making Plans to distribute millions of covid Booster Shots, the rollout was set to begin this week. Now the plans are in limbo as a key group of scientists determined most americans dont need the shot. With a 162 vote, an Fda Advisory Committee decided against recommending most americans get a third dose of pfizers coronavirus vaccine. I just dont think were there yet in terms of the data. More needs to be known about the protection. Reporter in august, President Biden stongly endorsed Booster Shots while warning the data was still under review. It will make you safer and for longer and will help us end the pandemic faster. Reporter while the Advisory Panel is reject boosters for most people, the recommendation is nonbinding and the Cdc And Fda will make a final call later this week. We have always said that this initial plan would be contingent on the fda and the cdcs independent evaluation. We will follow that evaluation and their recommendations. Reporter advisors are recommending americans 65 and older and those at high risk for disease be eligible for a third shot. The biden administration says, quote, we stand ready to provide Booster Shots to eligible americans once the process concludes. This week the president s going to be making his way up to New York to address the u. N. General assembly for the first time since taking office. He is also going to be convening a virtual Covid Summit, calling on World Leaders to unite behind a common vision for ending the pandemic. Chris. Chris Mark Meredith reporting from delaware. Thank you. Joining us now, the director of the national institutes of health, dr. Francis collins. Doctor, welcome back to Fox News sunday. Glad to be with you, Chris U theres a lot to talk about. Chris lets start with the fda Add A Vicely panel Advisory Panel which supported the idea of Booster Shots for people 65 and older, those most at risk, but rejected the idea of Booster Shots for the general population. Here is what President Biden said last month. The plan is for every adult to get a Booster Shot eight months after you got your second shot. Chris dr. Collins, is the advisory Panel Right . Do you now agree with them on this limited Booster Program over what the president was proposing last month, the general population getting boosters which he said was based on advice from his medical experts including you . You know, chris, i think theres less difference between where we were in the middle of august and what the advisory committee said this past friday. They did encourage and vote for the administration of boosters to people over 65 and those at high risk of exposure. Those are the people who would be most likely to reach that eight Month Period because thats how we prioritized initial immunizations back in january. So i dont think theres huge differences here. I think the big news is that they actually did approve the initiation of boosters and remember, theyre taking a snapshot of right now. Were going to see what happens in the coming weeks. It would surprise me if it does not become clear over the next few weeks that that administration of boosters may need to be enlarged, based upon the data that weve already seen both in the u. S. And in israel, its clear the waning of the effectiveness of those vaccines is a reality and we need to respond to it. But they looked at where we were on friday and said heres where the datas convincing to start now and well see what cdc says later this week. Chris but just to be clear, what youre saying is you still think, around i understand the and i understand the people further down the list, younger people, healthier people didnt get their vaccine as early in the process, you still think were going to need a Booster Program for everyone . Im not sure about absolutely everyone. Well have to see what they say ultimately about the youngest individuals because of concerns about benefits and risks but i will be surprised if boosters are not recommended for people under 65 going forward in the next few weeks. But well wait and see. What youre seeing here is science playing out in a very transparent way. This is the way it ought to be. Im troubled that people are complaining that the Process Isnt working for them. The process is to look at the data, have the experts consider it and make their judgment at that point, recognizing judgments may change. If people want an authoritarian statement that this is the right answer, you wont get it here. Move to china, youll get it there. Chris President Biden said he announced on august 18th, he did have a line about pending approval of the fda and the cdc but he talked about starting a Booster Program on september 20th, thats tomorrow. And he talked about giving it to all people, not just a limited group. Now, back during the campaign he talked about follow the science. Isnt announcing a specific day and a specific plan for the general population before any of the regulators, the fda, the cdc have approved it, isnt that the exact opposite of follow the science . Well, he was basically responding to a statement made by eight Physician Scientists including me, including the head of the fda and the head of the cdc, saying we have looked at the data and it looked as if boosters were going to be a good thing for americans to start to utilize, recognizing in that speech he did say Cdc And Fda as advisory process those kick in first. Im a little troubled about all of the buzz happening right now about whether the process was perfect. Of course, its not perfect. No process ever is. The goals here are to try to protect americans from dying from this disease, 670,000 have already. It does look from the review of the data by people like myself that we are going to need to provide boosters for people at risk in order to keep this surge from beginning to affect even those who are fully vaccinated. Were trying to do the right thing, trying to look at the data as it evolves, recognize things are changing Day By day. Maybe we ought to talk more about that than about whether the president said this a month ago and fda said this on friday. Lets try to get the Science Right and do it trans parentally and open transparently and openly so everybody sees how the process looks. Chris President Biden is convening a Covid Summit for the world this week in New York as part of the u. N. General assembly. The latest statistics are that 57 of the Worlds Population have not received a single dose of the vaccine. Is It Moral for the president to be pushing a third Booster Dose for americans when most of the World Hasnt received a single first dose . Well, i think this is a false choice thats being put forward. We have, of all the b countries in the world, done the most to try get the doses to people in low and middle income countries across the world. We already sent out 140 Million doses, exited to another 500 Million that are coming, contributed for A Billion dollars to covax so we are very invested in that. Watch what happens when the president meets with other countries, there may be more information there as well. The most we might be talking about as far as boosters between now and The End of this year might be 100 Million doses. Its a pretty small, modest number compared to what we are already sending out to the rest of the world or have committed to do so and again, lets be clear. The united states of all the countries in the world, has been the hardest hit with this. And if we were to step away from the need to actually protect people for whom the Vaccine Protection is waning and say, well, we just cant help them because weve got to send the doses overseas, that wouldnt be responsible either. Chris osha is currently writing a rule, probably going to take a couple more weeks, to mandate that businesses over with more than 100 employees mandate vaccines for them or at least if not then they have to get a mandatory test every week. Meanwhile, 24 state attorneys general, all of them republicans, say they plan to sue to block this mandate to private businesses, saying that, one, its Government Overreach and, two, that it is simply fostering vaccine resistance. Dont they have a point, doctor . Well, im not a politician and im not a lawyer. I do know that the law that congress passed requires osha to that action when there is Grave Danger in the Workplace Harm to employees. Covid19 represents a Grave Danger. So reasonable person would say they are not just supposed to act, they have to act in that space and that is the just at justification for this rule. I would hope the attorneys generals who protest against this would step back and say what is the best to save lives and are they on the right or wrong side of history by trying to resist this. Chris if the president wants to mandate vaccinations for basically all americans or as many as he can, why is there no mandate for people coming across the border illegally . The numbers are really bad, people, illegal immigrants who come across the border, when they leave federal custody one in five Test Positive for covid. The White House press secretary, jen psaki, was asked about that. Take a look. More people are vaccinated, whether they are migrants or whether they are workers, protects more people in the united states. The requirement for people and a business with more than 100 people is not a requirement for migrants at the southern border. Why . That is correct. Go ahead. Chris we didnt get much of an answer from her so let me ask you, dr. Collins. No mandate for illegal immigrants crossing the border who have a really high incidence. Why not . I cant answer the question, chris. Im not in those conversations. I know that vaccines are being offered to people in that situation. I guess youre asking why is it not mandated. That would have to be a question for someone else. Chris from a public Health Point of view, would that be healthier for the country to make sure that every person coming across the border illegally gets a vaccine . Well, i would say whether theyre coming across the border or theyre somewhere else in the world, yes, as a public health person, i want everybody to be vaccinated and if a mandate would help with that, lets do it. Chris finally, pediatric covid cases are rising. At one point i saw it was one in five of all the pediatric cases in the country. Where do we stand on getting approval to vaccinate children 5 to 11, the next group in line to be vaccinated . Where does that stand . How soon do you think its going to happen . Well, first of all, kids 1217 can be vaccinated. Unfortunately, only about half of them have been and so theres an area where we have an opportunity to make progress, especially with schools open. The data submitted by pfizer to fda for kids 511 is supposed to arrive in fdas hands later this month. I know they will work 24 7 to go through it and try to assess whether its time to grant an approval and that will happen in weeks, not months. Giving a precise date, i dont think that will be a smart idea. It will be coming certainly and i know many parents are worried about that. Im glad were talking about this as well. The best way to protect those kids right now is to have the people around them vaccinated so, chris, before we left off, before we leave off here, could we appeal to those 75 Million unvaccinated people who have not gotten their first dose, i know youve been very positive about the need for that. Lets not miss the chance, one more time, to say thats the most important thing we should be doing about covid19 right now today, sunday, september 19th. Chris dr. Collins, thank you. Thanks for your time and well be tracking what happens next with those Booster Shots. Thank you, sir. Thanks, chris. Good to talk to you. Chris up next, a logjam of work on Capitol Hill as democrats race to meet deadlines to fund the government, raise the Debt Ceiling and to pass President Bidens he domestic agenda. Well ask congressman John Yarmouth what they will and wont get done. Another day, another chance. Make the most of it with the network that can deliver Gig Speeds to the most businesses. And get the advanced Cybersecurity Solutions you need with Comcast Business Securityedge. Ask how to get Comcast Business Securityedge to help protect all your connected devices. And get started with a great offer on fast and reliable Internet And Voice for just 64. 99 a month. Plus, ask how to get a prepaid card up to 500. Call or go online today to learn more. Comcast business. Powering possibilities. Chris congress has a lengthy to do list by The End of the month, failure to act could lead to a Government Shutdown and to defaulting on our Debt Obligations for the first time in history. Meanwhile, the fate of President Bidens 3. 5 trillion economic agenda is in doubt. Joining us now, democratic Congressman And Chair of the house Budget Committee, john yarmuth. Mr. Chairman, welcome. Thanks, chris. Good to be with you. Chris democratic leaders say that the house will consider this week a bill to fund the Government And Money for the government runs out a week from rather 10 days, september 30th. And also to raise the Debt Limit and thats going to be reached sometime about a month from now. Will the House Vote to think two, to combine them, so they vote both to fund the government and to raise the Debt Limit at the same time . Actually, chris, i dont think that decisions been made yet. We have several options for raising the Debt Ceiling which is absolutely mandatory, as you mentioned, we never defaulted on our debt in history. This is really kind of a ridiculous position to be in. Were the only country in the world that has a Debt Ceiling that works like this. We raised it close to 100 times over the 104 years its been in existence. We ought to do away with it. But the position that republicans primarily Senator Mitch Mcconnell have taken is totally irresponsible and i hope they come to their senses because mitch has been running around kentucky taking credit for a lot of the spending that is requiring us to raise the Debt Limit. Mitch doesnt really care about seeming inconsistent or hypocritical. He says whatever is expedient. Chris let me interrupt if i can, just for a moment, chairman. Because if people hadnt gathered already, you and the republican senator from your state of kentucky, Mitch Mcconnell, are political adversaries. He has taken a clear stand on the Debt Limit. Lets hear from him. Let me be crystal clear about this. Republicans are united in opposition to raising the Debt Ceiling. Chris so i guess heres the question. If you separate them, then mcconnell and the republicans in the senate are going to vote to fund the government but not for the Debt Limit. If you combine them, then wouldnt that make it harder for republicans to vote against it because if they vote against the Debt Limit theyre voting to shut down the government as well. You know, im not sure which is worse. Since ive been in congress, the republicans have shut the government down once, the last time being in 2013. They were paying a heavy political price for doing that until some things went wrong with the aca implementation. I think people really need to focus on what mitch just said. Mitch just said every republican in the united States Senate was prepared to vote to have the federal government default. Thats what he said. I think thats a violation of the constitutional oath. It would be financial havoc if we actually defaulted. The last time we threatened to, our Credit Rating as a country was lowered a little bit, financial markets did not appreciate that. So there are a lot of things at stake here. But youre right. I dont know what the political calculation one way or the other is. I personally would like to see a clean vote on a Debt Ceiling so that republicans actually have to go on the record on that vote only and not mix it with a Funding Measure but ultimately the most important thing is to get both of them done. Chris let me ask you about an issue that involves democrats and the house. Democratic leaders say that the house will i thought the Word Choice was interesting consider the bipartisan Infrastructure Deal a week from tomorrow, September 27th, which is what Speaker Pelosi promised the moderates in the democratic caucus. I guess two questions. Does consider can mean vote on the bipartisan bill . And the reason i ask and you well know is because some people in the left wing of your party say, hey, look, if you put up the bipartisan bill in september and you dont get to the 3 andahalf trillion dollar Spending Bill, were going to vote against the bipartisan bill. Are you saying is Speaker Pelosi saying theyre going to vote on the bipartisan bill next week and separate it from the big Spending Bill . The only answer i can give you is that that is the current plan, to vote on the Infrastructure Bill on September 27th. Now, theres some other kind of qualify cases to that qualify qualifications to that. She can hold onto the bill for a while. So theres some flexibility in terms of how we mesh the two, the two mandates, one of them is to vote on the 27th. The second is to not pass one without the other. Chris lets talk about the big tax and Spending Bill, 3 andahalf trillion dollars. Youre going to pass it with just if you can pass it, with just democratic votes and theres serious splits between the House And Senate democrats, among house democrats. First of all, the size. 3 andahalf trillion dollars. Youve got Joe Manchin and some other senate democrats saying they wont go for any more than half that. How do you resolve that issue . Well, first of all, were not really focused on the the top line of spending. I know a lot of people are. What we ought to be focused on is what the net investment in the people of the united states will be and as has been mentioned the Ways And Means Committee voted about 2 Trillion of tax increases, exclusively on Wealthiest Americans and corporations during the 10 years so the net investment if no other revenues are create ad, then that would be about a trillion andahalf dollars, if the total spending stayed at that 3. 5 trillion level. But most importantly, what were focused on is the fact that these are things that we absolutely have to do as a country. These are not frivolous matters. We have a desperate deficiency in the social infrastructure in this country, access to affordable child care, the absence of early childhood education, the infrastructure for senior care. I mean, we have lots of seniors increasing every day and a living longer and we want to do what we can to make sure they have a comfortable retirement. So there are a lot of thats what i think we need to focus on, not the money. Chris a lot of people say money matters too. Your Budget Committee is going to have to try to put all of the different parts of the Spending Package together. I want to ask you briefly about one other big split among of democrats and that is whether or not to allow medicare to negotiate lower prices so you can expand medicare benefits. You had a number of the more moderate members of your Caucus Vote against that. How are you going to resolve that . Well, i know that at least two of them have said they actually want negotiation with medicare to take place. They just didnt like the mechanism that was in the Energy And Commerce legislation. So there are ideas coming out of the senate on this. Im not sure there are very many in the democratic caucus on either side of the building that actually are opposed to negotiation on prices of prescription drugs. I think its the methodology we use. Chris finally, i want to put up another Fox News poll which has some interesting results. President bidens overall Job Approval is now 50 approve to 49 disapprove or plus one. In june, it was 56 to 43 or plus 13. And other polls have the president s Job Approval considerably lower, in the low 40s. Wont Joe Bidens diminished standing with the american people make it harder for congress, democrats in congress to pass his agenda when as i say theres less support for him generally and this is a tough vote thats going to youre going to have here for a lot of democrats. I dont think its going to make it more difficult at all because what weve seen in polling on what were trying to accomplish, the american people are overwhelmingly in favor of the elements of the build back better agenda. They want child care, they want early childhood education, they want to do something about climate change, they want paid family leave, they want better senior care. So we feel that were on very, very strong political ground and pushing for these kind of investments and benefits to the american people. Chris real quick. When do you think the house will pass the big tax and Spending Bill and what do you think the top Line Number will be . Okay. Well, im not going to deal with the top Line Number. I suspect it will be somewhat less than 3. 5 trillion. Remember, thats over 10 years and this is basically about 5 more than were going to spend anyway. Thats what it means in context. But in answer to your question, i would say were probably going to slip past the September 27th date. Sometime in october would be would be mybest guess. Chris up next, we bring up the Sunday Group to discuss the critical unfinished work faces congress as the clock ticks down. All im asking is you pay your fair share. Pay your fair share. Its the very last thing american workers need. Its the last thing american families can afford. Chris President Biden making the case for his massive tax and Spending Plan while Senate Republican Leader Mitch Mcconnell pushes back, saying the 3 andahalf trillion Dollar Price Tag Will Crater the economy. Its time for our Sunday Group. Former Chief Of Staff to mike pence, mark short, Julie Pace making her first appearance here and her big new job as Executive Editor for the entire whole worldwide associated press, and Noah Lathey of georgetown Universitys Institute of politics and public service. Jewly, congratulations julie, consistent gracious congratulations. President Biden And Congressional Democrats face as we were talking about chairman yarmuth a brutal few weeks. They have to vote to fund the government, they have to decide whether theyre going to pass the bipartisan Infrastructure Plan and theres the 3 andahalf trillion tax and Spending Plan. Where are they . The scope of what is ahead for the biden administration and for democrats in congress right now is really enormous, so much of bidens overall agenda as president is going to be tied up in what happens over the next couple weeks and then as you mentioned theres the small matter of keeping the government actually funded. I think when it comes to passing the biden priorities, democrats want to get to yes. They have divisions to work through within the party. They have questions about the top line price tag. I think democrats though are going to try to push to get to a place where they can pass something that might look different than where the package stands rights now but i think those are really big questions on the idea of raising the Debt Limit and funding the government. That is always a really difficult Hill Washington to climb. It sounds like something that should be basic but it is really difficult and Mitch Mcconnell is holding a pretty firm line right now and democrats will have to figure out how they can pull on the senate side, in particular a few republicans over to try to get the Debt Limit increase and the government funded. Chris can mark, im sure that you and your republican colleagues are thoroughly enjoying watching the infighting going on among democrats but isnt julie right. Dont democrats have to get to yes . Because if they dont, if they dont pass the Biden Domestic Agenda and i know you dont agree with it in policy but democrats do, wouldnt that be disastrous for them in the 2022 midterms . Well, it may be disastrous for them if they fail. But i think its also going to be disastrous for them if they pass the massive tax increases. I think its quite analogous to if you recall when President Obama had control of both the out and senate, Nancy Pelosi and her friends passed through obamacare, they passed a giant Stimulus Bill and finally ran into a Train Wreck with Cap And Trade because she didnt have the senate vote. What you see right now is a similar play. Shes s asking all of her members to come forward on a 3. 5 trillion tax and spend plan but theres no evidence theres senate votes for something that massive. These members that are in middle districts have to question what is their future and is this what the constituents want. The margin was quite big. Right now, her margin is only four votes, only four votes. Theres a lot of members in middle battleground districts who will be forced to walk the plank and say were going to do what Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden want us to do or well do what our constituents want us to do thairl a peril in either pass had. Chris the other big domestic story this week, it happened friday around when the fda Advisory Panel voted against the president s plan to offer boosters to all americans and in fact made it a select group, people over 65, people at risk. Heres Florida Governor Ron De Santis on this. Take a look. My sense would be if Donald Trump was president it would be the lead story. Two high Ranking Fda people resigned in protest over the push for these boosters. Chris as we pointed out, back in midaugust, about a month ago, President Biden, yes, he said, well it depends on Fda And Cdc approval but he proceeded to announce a specific Start Date which is tomorrow and that it was going to go out to the entire general population. How big an embarrassment the fact that the fda, the president said follow the science, heres the fda Advisory Panel saying we dont agree. Yeah, look, i think people are confused. And i dont think theres any way around that. I think theres some i think its understandable, he though. I think we keep seeing that were trying to figure all of this out in realtime. That were looking at the data in realtime. That delta is evolving at a pace they didnt expect it to and so they have to react to that in realtime and i think people are willing to give the benefit of the doubt up to a certain point. At The End of the day, i dont think this will be the Breaking Point for them. I do think people get that the guidance is going to evolve a bit. The administration i think so long as it continues to focus its energy on the economic recovery from covid and on getting as many people vaccinated as possible and making that the primary focus, then i think they will continue to hold onto a majority of the public support. And beyond that, people are going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Chris mark, you were deeply involved in the white House Covid Task force under your then boss, Vice President Pence, and President Trump. And you guys learned The Hard Way that the voters dont like it if they think that decisions on covid and dealing with the virus are being made because of politician rather than because of science. Chris, i think thats wellsaid. I think the real at reality is what i think the biden administration is suffering from is the promise they are going to follow the science and it seems like once again theyre getting ahead of the science and making promises that their own fda doesnt agree with it. Last week, the whole statement that we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated, i mean, what the heck is that . If you trust in the vaccine, why do you need to protect the vaccinated from unvaccinated. I think theres a lot of resistance to the federal government forcing mandates on people in businesses and saying were going to come in and mandate that employers that employ at least 100 people require their employees to get vaccinated when often youre going to find thats going to create a competitive advantage for people that have less than 100 people because thats where the people will go to. I think theres a lot of concern about the overreach of the federal government here. Chris we have to take a break here. When we come back, its been a tough week for the pentagon as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs faces calls to resign and the u. S. Admits a terrible mistake in afghanistan. We have whats called overthehorizon capabilities which means we can strike terrorists and targets without american boots on the ground, very few if needed. I am now convinced that as many as ten civilians including up to seven children were tragically killed in that strike. Chris President Biden arguing last month the military can fight terrorists from outside of afghanistan and the head of u. S. Central Command Aca knowledging friday a Drone Strike just as american troops were leaving hit the wrong people. This comes as new numbers from our Fox Polls show approval of President Bidens handling of afghanistan is now upside down, 60 disapprove while 36 approve. And were back now with the panel. Julie, President Biden was as we say already in trouble with the american people on the way hes handled afghanistan. This tragic mistake with this going to increase public confidence in his handling. No, its certainly not and it is just a really horrific tragedy that this strike killed civilians in afghanistan including people who had worked closely with americans during the course of the war, in some ways its almost a fitting end to the real mess that weve seen in afghanistan in the closing weeks of the u. S. Presence there and i think one of the things that the White House has struggled to get their hands around here is the idea that actually the public has largely been supportive of the notion of getting american troops out of afghanistan but they have increasingly become frustrated an angry with the way the drawdown has happened. So the ultimate decision to leave may be seen as the right one by many people, the way it was handled continues to i think really frustrate again and anger a lot of americans and i think the question going forward is what does the situation on the ground in afghanistan look like in a few months, in a few years, because we now are increasingly hearing from Military Leaders that this could be a situation where alqaida or other extremist groups are able to reconstitute and pose a threat not just within afghanistan but to the western world. Chris to back up what julie just said, i want to put up another result from our Fox News poll. People approve of the Policy Decision to remove u. S. Troops from afghanistan 55 to 40 but as you see on the right, they disapprove of the way the president handled the withdrawal, 59 to 36. And youve got to think, mo, that a Drone Strike that kills ten innocent civilians including seven children isnt going to boost confidence in the president s competence in afghanistan. No, Everything Julie said was right. This was an unmitigated disaster and tragic loss of life of civilians. Look, the decision to withdraw, hes on solid political ground. We can have a robust Discussion And Debate how it occurred. There could be an argument to be made that this kind and many democrats are making the argument that this was always going to be chaotic, that there was nothing we could do that was going to avoid chaos. Thats a he debate that i sus be expect well be having for suspect well be having for quite some time. This incident, i find hard to find words to defend what happened with this tragic mistake. And i expect you will see quite a bit of youll see the Oversight Committees in Congress Start to gear into overdrive pretty quick. Chris i want to turn to the controversy over the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, general Mark Milley, and reporting in a new book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa that milley called the top chinese general two days after the Capitol Riot to reassure him the u. S. Had no intentions to attack. Here was reaction to that revelation this week. If General Milley had these communications with the communist party of china, hes a smoked turkey and he ought to be. I dont see anything thats undermining civilian control of the military. Chris mark, milley reportedly felt he had to reassure the chinese because he was worried about Donald Trumps instability and what he might do next. Well, chris, its hard to think of any active Military Leader who is participated in more of these biographies of Donald Trump than Mark Milley. He seems to be concerned about what his public image is. Instead, the focus should have been what were doing in afghanistan and other foreign policy areas. I think that we need to wait for General Milleys testimony before the senate armed services committee. Im a little reluctant to assume at Face Value an excerpt that comes out of Bob Woodwards book. I think if this is true, i do think he needs to step aside. I think we have to hold judgment until we have testimony and he clarifies this for the american people. Chris while i have you here, im going to ask you about something you probably know about directly because there is an account in the Bob Woodward book that late december, last year, when Vice President Pence was still in office, that he called former Vice President Dan Quayle to ask him to discuss whether or not he had the power, the ability on January 6th, the certification day, to throw the election to trump in the house. What do you know about that story . Well, my recollection as that Dan Quayle called the Vice President to offer his advice and the reality is that the Vice President Pence always told President Trump he would be happy to look at anything that would send his way to he review this but he was pretty certain and confident there is no constitutional authority that would have ever given any one person some massive authority to overturn the results of the election, that we as conservatives believe the election should be certified at the State Level and thats what happened in 2020. There were not a separate set of slates, a different set of circumstances, i think its rather unamerican to think any one person would have had the authority to have that much authority to overturn an hell election. I think the Vice President was clear from day one, thats what he thought his role one and i dont think he ever wavered in that. Chris lets go back to the milley story. What have you found in your reporting . How chaotic was the trump White House in the final days and how much concern was there in the White House in the government at large about the president s stability . Mark knows this firsthand. It was hard to overstate how on Edge Washington was during that period of time. Both as the days after the election and then certainly around January 6th and that was bipartisan concern. There were high level republicans who were really on edge about what the president s next step might be there and milley is just one of the people, now a very powerful person, but one of the people who was trying to mitigate potential disaster there. Milley had said that he believes that his calls to his chinese Counter Part were within the bounds of his role as joint chief chairman. He is going to testify i think in more detail about this later in september. It will be fascinating to see him explain why he felt the need to take those steps but, again, i think its important for people to remember that in those days in january, it was not just Mark Milley who was concerned about President Trumps actions. That was a concern that was shared broadly across the capitol. Chris let me ask you quickly, because in the Book Woodward and costas describe his call to the chinese as a secret call. Milley or his people are telling reporters hey, look, he made two calls, one in october with the express approval of then Defense Secretary Esper and the second call he made on January 8 there were 15 people in the room. Was it secret or was it within channels . Milley is trying to argue that this was within proper channels. It doesnt appear as though these were calls they werent briefed to the media at the time. They werent calls based on our understanding that President Trump and others at top levels of the White House were aware of. This is something that will be interesting about his testimony later in september, who in the administration knew he was making those calls and were people essentially approving of him taking these steps. Chris whether what milley did was right or wrong, i want to pick up on mark shorts comment. He seems to be in every one of these books, either talking directly or talking to somebody who talked to the authors, talking about how worried he was about Donald Trump and separating himself. Too political, too outfront for chairman of the Joint Chiefs . Look, i dont think so. I think Mark Milley, its interesting to see sort of the attacks on him right now. And im with everyone else, lets see what the testimony brings. Its interesting to see people throwing around words like treasonous and calling on him to resign. Remember, this was in the wake of an insurrection and he was trying to tamp down foreign concern. So well see what happens. But i think hell be okay. Chris we will see. That will be must see tv, september 28th. Thank you, panel. Up next, our Power Player of the week, fox Sports Insider Jay Glaser on how he gets all those big scoops and his new focus off the field. Chris This Time Of Year Sunday Days mean doing this program and getting home in time to watch Nfl Football on fox. A key member of the fox Sports Team is known for breaking big stories and now for his important work off the field. Here is our Power Player of the week. Football is one of the only places where someone can spill a beer on you in the first quarter and you hug them in the second quarter. It brings people together. Chris bringing people together is a passion for fox Sports Insider, Jay Glaser. Especially now that with covid vaccines stadiums will be filled again. Right before the start of the season, i went on a 35 Nfl Training Camp tour and the fans were back and it was so great to feel that again. You really dont know what you have until you miss it. Chris he is part of the team at Fox Sports pregame show, Fox Nfl sunday. Whats the latest with him. Chris his job, giving fans the inside track on the leagues big stories. I dont know where theyre getting that from. Chris can Tom Brady do it again, can you go to and win his eighth super bowl . Weve seen what tom can do. I have no idea what he cant do. Chris glaser lives up to his rep, guest starring on hbos ballers and breaking major stories like spy gate, when the New England Patriots secretly taped what other teams were doing. When i first came in the nfl in 1993, i said how can i be different from everybody else. I was going to start relationships in this league. Chris glaser says relationships have evolved from looking to news to sharing his struggle with Depression And Anxiety. Because ive been so open about Mental Health, ive had coachers, managers and players, guys i used to rely on for scoops and information, now calling for help on their end. Chris what does living in the gray mean . First of all, it sucks, its a pain behind my Rib Cage i guess if you will, its kind of in my soul. You see me laughing and joking on tv. A lot of it is laughter to overcome it. Chris using his background in mixed martial arts, he opened a high caliber gym, Called Unbreakable Performance Center where he brings in therapists to focus on Mental Health. Like you can go get Body Work done, a massage, one side of the gym. You can get work on your soil on the other side. Chris he created merging vets and players or mvp. A charity where veterans and athletes talk about their shared struggle. Once their uniform comes off, a lot of times they feel their identity is gone. Our results have been theyve really been beautiful. Its incredible. When you lose your team, its a scary world out there. Im trying to give them a team again. Chris glaser says the gray is a daily battle, one he will continue to speak up about so others can too. My friends like Michael Strahan and Howie Long will say thats great. Now were able to talk about Mental Health and shine a light on it. To build a team with All Of Us together, i say All Of Us, anybody and everything, you dont have to go through Depression And Anxiety, we have to walk the walk together. Chris this january he will be out with a book Called Unbreakable, how i turned my Depression And Anxiety into a Et Motivation and you can too. Speaking of books, my new one, Countdown Bin Laden is number two on the latest New York times best seller list. Thank you for your support and the notes youve sent me about the history thriller. Thats it for today. Have a great week and well see you next Fox News sunday. Time on life, liberty levin. Wyoming authorities have discovered our body at grantee Time National Park where the searches been underway for a gabby. 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