At the pentagon when it was attacked on this day 20 years ago. Hes now a Fox News senior strategic analyst. General, welcome. Good to see you as usual. So looking 20 years back, and having experience so intensely of that day and reflecting on it, what are the lessons you draw for American National Security from that days attacks and our response . Yeah, they are pretty profound, and certainly the 9 11 commission as a result of that tragic day helped us too to bring some of these things into focus, most notably is our Intelligence System failed us miserably, and we know now that the cia and the fbi really werent talking to each other the way they should be because there were plenty of signs that an attack was imminent. They also had some chatter to that, but the specificity that they were hearing in the country certainly and preparing themselves for that attack slipped through. That was tragic. The other thing is that really the principle of taking the fight to them and staying on top of the situation in their backyards has served us well, through four president s now. It was a sobering reality when the 9 11 commission told us, paul, that we have to take away radical Islamist TerroristSafe Havens, and The Truth is, based on the two attacks on our embassy in 98 and the uss cole, the sobering reality is if we had taken away the Al QaedaSafe Haven in afghanistan, where those attacks were planned and directed from, likely we would not have had a 9 11. So focusing on that has been an objective of the United States Military on Intelligence Services, and by in large we have done a very good job of foiling the attacks that were imminent as we all know and stopping attacks from actually getting off the ground in terms of Planning And Preparation in the future because we stayed right on top of them. When we lost our focus, at times, because americas impatient as we know, when we took the ball off the focus in iraq, and Vice President biden recommended to the president of the united states that we pull all the troops out, over the objections i will say of then general austin, we got isis as a result of that. And now i fear that were doing it again in afghanistan and pulling all of our troops out and turning it over to the very organization that enabled 9 11. But we have hardened our defenses in this country and improved rather significantly the coordination of our Intelligence Services and the fbi, and we have improved significantly over 20 years how to go after their finances. The Treasury Department is involved in that and the State Department is involved in it. We are much better prepared today 20 years later for anything like a 9 11 than certainly we were then, and the risk obviously has gone down, but its the future that most of us are concerned about, given our decisions concerning afghanistan. Paul so Condoleezza Rice who was national Security Advisor at the time wrote in our pages this week that she says we are as a country actually safer today than we were 20 years ago, for some of the reasons you cited, but also the overall point about vigilance. Were paying attention now. Were watching in the same way that we werent at that time. Do you agree with her that we are safer now . Yeah, i do agree with that, very much so as a matter of fact. I mean, we really have learned the lessons of 9 11 and certainly have applied them, and how we handle it in terms of Radical Islamist organizations who want to threaten the united states is our focus, and four president s have come to that same conclusion, so were in iraq. Were in syria. Were in east africa, on the ground because of that threat. Were very close in yemen because of the Al Qaeda threat there. And certainly were going to be challenged to keep our eye on the ball in afghanistan because weve taken away our eyes and our ears the Listening Posts that we had there with our seven bases and the multiple cia bases. Thats the concern i have. I do say this, in terms of all overall strategic significance, the 9 11 wars did create an Erosion And Evaporation of our military capability, and it has put us more vulnerable in dealing with china primarily to a lesser degree russia, and were trying to dig ourselves out of that hole in terms of the Defense Budget and what our capabilities should be. President trump put on a path to doing that. Well see if President Biden is able to continue that because it is a serious issue that we have to contend with. Paul just about 45 seconds left, general, the are you suggesting that we have to pare back some of our counterterror operations or perhaps ground commitments in the army to be able to invest more in technology against china and the navy . No, i dont think so at all. I believe the modest commitments that we have to make to stay on top of the five, six Terrorist Organizations that threaten the united states does not detract whatsoever from the threats and the commitments we need to make dealing with whether its china, whether its russia, or whether its iran, the other principled adversaries that were contending with. I dont believe our commitment, that Counterterrorism Commitment will detract from these capabilities and those necessities. Paul general, insightful as ever. Thanks for being here. When we come back, the Chaos And Horror of that day 20 years ago. Still vivid in the minds of those who lived and worked in Lower Manhattan. 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The offices of the Wall Street Journal were across The Street from those towers and our panel is here with their recollections of that day. Joining me is Wall Street JournalColumnist And DeputyEditorial Page EditorDan Henninger, Columnist Mariana Ogrady and columnist and Manhattan Institute senior fellow Jason Riley. Mary, you were down there that day. We ran into each other in the office in fact before i headed uptown for a meeting. Tell us about your recollections and kind of and what you take away from it. Thanks, paul. Well, yeah, i did see you that morning, and when the first Plane Hit and i saw the big gash in the side of the building and all these papers flying out and black smoke, i actually ran down to your Office Thinking i would find you and tell you, and it turned out that i was by myself at that point, and when the second Plane Hit, i did leave, but security told me to go back up stairs because our building had not been hit, and when the second Plane Hit, it was much louder, much closer to me. I heard the sound of the jet coming in, and it was literally right in front of my office. You know, paul, when i look back on that day, always with a lot of sadness and, you know, really i dont talk about it very much, but the one thing that always strikes me is that i remember most vividly the courage i saw on that day. I mean, there was such a sense of helplessness, when i found out that the plane that hit the Second Tower was an airliner, because Someone Id met on The Street told me, it was just it took my breath away, and i was confused and overwhelmed, but i think back about the firemen who rushed in the building with the hope of putting out the fire. So there was a lot of courage that day. Paul i should add that as i discovered some weeks later when i went down there to inspect our offices and pick up some of the personal Things Id left, Marys Office was destroyed by one of the falling towers. Jason, you were there as well and caught in that Dust And Smoke storm. Tell us about your experience and your thoughts. Well, i was living in brooklyn at the time and took the subway to work, and as i was leaving for the office that morning, i got a call from my father who lived in Up StateNew York in buffalo, and me asked me if i knew and he asked me if i knew that the World Trade Center was on fire and said no, but thanks for telling me because i took a different subway to office because the one i usually took probably wouldnt be working. When i came up on ground in man hat tan, the towers were already on fire. Our offices were located Kitty Corner to the World Trade Center so you had to pass them to get to work, but there were already barricades up so i couldnt go any further. All of us, must have been thousands of people just standing there watching the tower burn, and then it fell right in front of us, and like it was in slow motion. This huge Dust Cloud came up, and i started running like everyone else, dropped my phone, and when all was said and done, i looked like someone who had been rolling around in an ashtray. I sort of made my way back to brooklyn, walked back home over the brooklyn bridge, and then sat down and wrote an email to my colleagues at work just telling them that i was okay and what happened, and to my surprise, the email wound up in the paper the next day, which had not been my intent. But my take away from that day, paul, is i was angry. I was very angry at what i had witnessed and how it changed our lives, and i remember that stink, that smell, sort of metallic smell in the air for months afterwards that always made me angry whenever i detected it, but i also liked the unity that i saw among my fellow New Yorkers. New york is a very diverse place. It can get very tribal in terms of politics, in terms of race, in terms of ethnicity, but for a brief period New Yorkers came together and thats really something to see. Paul jason, you can blame me for putting your email in the paper. I needed a hole to fill that night. David you wrote from my view the best piece of Journalism Anyone wrote that day. You wrote it started from a bench observing the events. Tell us about that. Yeah, i was outside myself. I was on my way to Brooks Brothers across the World Trade Center, but i had stopped at a coffee shop. As a result, i looked up to the sky the moment the plane was going into the building. My recollection is the whole thing seemed impossible at the time. It seemed impossible that an airliner could have gone inside the World Trade Center building. As i made my way up the westside highway after the South Tower had fallen, i stopped to talk with a guy who was sitting on a railing there, and i had been speaking to people, i said man, theres all sorts of rumors out there, such as a plane has flown into the White House, and he said thats not true, but a plane has flown into the pentagon, and at that moment, i was just sickened and shocked. It was so clear that the united states was under attack, and e finally made my way to the and i finally made my way to the apartment of my colleague, on the lower east side, we were connected to our offices in princeton, new jersey, we were putting out a paper, and i sat down and wrote that article, paul, and i have to say it is the only time that i had to stop and weep at least three times while i was writing it. So it was unforgettable. It was unimaginable. But we should not forget it. That is for certain. Paul all right, thank you all for those recollections. When we come back, 9 11 changed everything. Thats a familiar mantra we have heard after the attacks, now 20 years ago, but is it true . Our panel is back with a look at what has changed in our politics and what hasnt and what lessons we have learned. I can hear you the rest of the world hears you and the people [cheers and applause] and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear All Of Us soon [cheers and applause] Psst Psst allergies dont have to be scary. Spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. Psst psst flonase all good. Hi, im steve and i live in austin, texas. I work as a Personal Assistant to the owner of a large manufacturing firm. Ive got anywhere from 10 to 50 projects going at any given time. I absolutely have to be sharp. Let me tell ya, i was struggling with my memory. It was going downhill. 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That was a familiar refrain in the weeks and months following the terror attacks. 64 of a Fox News poll say that day permanently changed how we live in the united states. Lets bring back in our panel. Dan, you took on that statement this week in your column saying 9 11 did not change everything. In fact, why dont you tell us what you meant . What i meant by that is it did not change our partisanship. It did not change our political polarization. That returned shortly after 9 11. George w. Bush spent seven years in direct opposition by the democrats and indeed the media. He was often mocked, and i think that polarization has done a lot of damage to things we needed on that day, which was national security. I mean, today, paul, theres sort of a sense that theres a sourness in the political life of the country out there, that people want to come home, that they are exhausted about our foreign commitments, but do the taliban carrying weapons around kabul look exhausted . Do the communist chinese look exhausted . These things are a function of national political leadership. It is their job to protect The American people. My concern at the moment, paul, is that after afghanistan, after what Joe Biden has been through kabul, we are falling back into a position similar to pre9 11, where we did not take the national security of the united states sufficiently seriously. That i think is a danger now. Paul mary, i wonder if you share that concern, not the Polarization Point so much as the mentality of the country and our attentiveness to vigilance. Oh, absolutely. Im not so sure the country doesnt reason the importance of vigilance. I think Dans Point about leadership is the most important point. I mean, we have were more surveilled. We have this huge Homeland Security Bureaucracy that employs almost a quarter million people. There are cameras everywhere, from airports to office buildings. You cant you know, you have to clear security all the time. But i think were lacking the leadership to communicate to the public that a big part of that is the good intelligence that weve collected by fighting these wars there instead of here. And without that intelligence, i think were much more [inaudible], and it is popular to take polls and ask people do you want to be at war . Of course people are going to say no, but if people understand that the risk goes up when we dont have the intelligence, i think those opinions are going to change pretty fast. Paul jason, theres criticism you often hear from people, on the left, and increasingly on the right, that, you know what . We overreached. We did too much. We had too much surveillance. We tried to do too much overseas, Nation Building and whatnot. What do you make of that argument . Is that fair . I dont think it is fair, paul. The one thing we have avoided with all this supposed overreach is another large attack on the homeland. So id have to conclude that it was worth it. Whatever were doing. And i agree with both dan and mary, that this pre9 11Mind Set is creeping back in. Maybe it is inevitable. It reminds me of the debates we have whenever crime falls. People go violent crime is down. Why are Police Budgets so big . Why are we locking so many people up . Forgetting why the two are connected. They same thing might be happening here with respect to the war on these jihadists. This is The World We Live In now, paul. Im not saying we should be out there Nation Building, but we probably do need a small footprint, eyes and ears on the ground in these dangerous parts of the world where theres still a threat either to the u. S. Or to our allies. That is just the reality of The World We Live In, and we need political leaders to make the tough calls here and to do the right thing, even when it isnt popular. Paul mary, briefly, what have we done right since 9 11 in your view . I think again it comes back to intelligence. I think the intelligence failed on 9 11, and weve really cleaned up our act in many ways. I think intelligence gathering abroad has been a key aspect of that. And i think The American public has done a reasonably good job at adjusting to all of this. You know, one thing that we said on 9 11 was that if we let them let us change the way we live, they win, and despite all these Security Checks we have everywhere, i think, you know, The American public is pretty resilient, and weve, you know, gone along with what is necessary to protect the homeland. Paul the worse Intelligence Abuse in the last 20 years had nothing to do with terrorism, was the fbi during the 2016 president ial campaign. All right. Still ahead, the Terror Threat then and now, as the taliban announces a new government in afghanistan with close ties to Al Qaeda. Is the u. S. Safer than it was 20 years ago . This is a new world. The Terror Threat has metastasized across the world, well beyond afghanistan. The fundamental obligation of a president in my opinion is to defend and protect america. Not against threats of 2001, but against the threats of 2021 and tomorrow. Paul President Biden defending the u. S. Withdrawal from afghanistan and claiming the Terror Threat has evolved since the u. S. Was attacked on september 11th, 2001. So how has the nature of the Jihadist Threat changed over the last 20 years . And what does the new taliban government in afghanistan and its close ties to Al Qaeda mean for our terrorfighting capabilities in the region . Lets ask seth jones, senior Vice President and director of the international Security Program at the Center For Strategic And International Studies and former Senior Advisor to the u. S. Special Operations Command in afghanistan. Hes also author of the book in the graveyard of empires, Americas War in afghanistan. So seth, nice to see you. Thank you for coming in. So i guess basic question, are we safer now against the Jihadist Threat than we were 20 years ago . Well, paul, i think were safer today, that is, this very day this week, maybe this month, but my concern is that we are putting ourselves the administration has put ourselves on a trajectory where that does not look good next year and over the next couple of months. What we dont see right now is active plotting, like we did on september 11th, 2001, against the united states. We dont see individuals trying to fly airplanes, and that persisted over the next decade. We came very close. Three Suicide Bombers attempted on three separate New York city subways. That was foiled by thankfully with great work by the fbi and u. S. And british intelligence. There were a couple of other major plots in the u. S. That Al Qaeda was involved in. We dont see these right now, but frankly, with the recent developments, of having one of the most important senior leaders of the taliban with close ties to Al Qaeda, thats going to change, its going to change quick. Paul thats mr. Akani of that network which is designated as a Terrorist Organization by the united states government. The argument was and has been that we needed to fight the terrorists there so we didnt have to defend against them here. And that strategy has basically held for the last 20 years. Are you saying that that is now being changed by the u. S. Government perhaps, that we think well, we dont need to be as concerned about that overseas . Well, paul, i do think just to begin with, it is helpful to note that the u. S. Has not had a directed Terrorist Attack in the u. S. Since 9 11. That is in part because of our effective Counterterrorism Operations overseas, in places like afghanistan and pakistan, where the u. S. Conducted strikes against individuals, rashid, kashmiri, plotting attacks inside the u. S. Homeland, they were taken off the battlefield, they are killed in strikes. Just because we dont see active plotting today doesnt mean we wont see it tomorrow, and the trajectory is very concerning. You mentioned akhani, the minister of interior, some combination of the Fbi Director and secretary of the department of homeland security, he has verifiable close ties with senior Al Qaeda leadership. We have meetings between he and his network recently with individuals up to the leader of Al Qaeda, as you noted, he is a u. S. Designated terrorist, so with him in part at the helm of the taliban, this is the only country in the world right now that has a very close ally of Al Qaeda in its Government Structure in a major position. This has some serious blinking Red Lights for Al Qaedas resurgence in that country moving forward. Paul the president makes the argument that as he puts it, the Terror Threat, the Jihadist Threat has metastasized around the world, and weve managed to be able to handle it in somalia and yemen, in northern africa, and other parts of the world, and we can do the same thing in afghanistan, and your argument is its going to be a lot harder than he thinks, or is it even going to be possible . Well, paul, it is going to be harder in two respects. One of them is in none of the countries that you have named, and you can add Syria Or Iraq to yemen and somalia and libya, do we have often a close Al Qaeda ally in a senior position of the government . The second is, in none of those other places do we have the u. S. So poorly positioned to conduct a Counterterrorism Campaign. I mean, having been involved in running Counterterrorism Campaign in u. S. Special operations, what we dont have in afghanistan is an ally. We have an enemy obviously. We dont have a base, either in the country or in the region, and we dont have much intelligence infrastructure, so i think u. S. Officials either are misunderstanding or theyre outright lying to say that weve done this in other places. We can do it in afghanistan. Weve done nothing like this in other places. We have bases. We have an ally. We have an intelligence infrastructure. Weve given it all away now which is thats going to be the challenge. Paul briefly, seth, is there any reason to believe that Al Qaeda and its senior operatives have reduced their intensity in wanting to strike the united states or its citizens . Paul, all ive heard on Jihadist Chat rooms over the last couple of weeks is weve just beat the u. S. Here in afghanistan, and now were going to conduct strikes against them, against their embassies, and against the homeland. So everything were hearing them say is that theres more pain coming if they can help it. Paul all right. 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Paul President Biden this week announcing sweeping new Vaccine Mandates, signing an Executive Order thursday requiring covid19 shots for all federal employees and contractors and calling on the Labor Department to issue an Emergency Rule requiring private employers with 100 or more workers to require the Vaccine Or Test for the virus weekly. The president delivering a harsh message to the roughly 80 Million americans who are not vaccinated. This is not about freedom or personal choice. Its about protecting yourself and those around you. The people you work with, the people you care about, weve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost All Of Us. So please do the right thing. Paul were back with Dan Henninger and Jason Riley and joined by Wall Street JournalEditorial Board Member alicia finley. Jason, what do you make of the Mandate Plan . Was it necessary . Well, i was a little bothered by the president s tone there in his decision to sort of Set One American against another on this issue. I think many large employers were already doing this, paul, and i prefer to see that they make that decision on their own. In terms of federal employees, i think its appropriate for the federal government to decide how to go about vaccinations for the people it employs. You know, you dont have to work for the federal government if you dont like what they decide, but i think the private sector should be left to its own devices by in large. The calculation of the president , though, is probably that this is going to be politically popular for him. If you look at the polling, people do want their coworkers vaccinated. That is a majority of americans feel that way. There is a down side, however. We have a Labor Shortage in this country, paul. And to the extent that these Vaccine Mandates keep people out of the workforce, it is only going to exacerbate that worker shortage. Paul yeah. Alicia, you look at this, the vaccines very closely, and youve followed covid closely, was this necessary as a matter of Public Health . In other words, was the emergency so extreme that the president within two months basically changed from saying we dont need these and declaring victory on the virus to now saying well, were going to override personal freedom to be able to dictate this . Well, the president cites the surge in the delta which, you know, this summer, there have been rising cases and rising hospitalizations, and some hospitals have been overwhelmed. Weve seen that in texas, florida, and some other states in the south. But, you know, there is no indication as he said that as people were having Heart Attacks or pancreatitis or other strokes werent able to get care. Federal Healthcare Workers have been going to these hospitals [inaudible]. The immediate danger from the delta seems to be or at least looks to be subsiding. We dont know if thats actually going to be the case. During the winter, it could flare up. But for the most part, 75 of americans or who are eligible have already decided voluntarily to get vaccinated. The delta may retreat, you know, just as it exhausts the potential target. Theres no reason for or theres no real practical public Health Reason at this point to mandate that all american workers get vaccinated. Paul so dan, so why do you think the president did this . Is it as jason suggests, political . I think it is largely political. His Approval Rating is down near 40 now. And people are upset about the spread of the delta variant, covid, and the president No Doubt feels that if he acts aggressively against this, it will be translated into an act of leadership by The American people. The thing i was struck by, paul, though is it was such a highly politicized presentation. He started out i mean, hes implying and attacking all sorts of enemies. Hes started out by suggesting his predecessor had not done enough, had not bought enough vaccines. There was a point there where he never named florida governor ron desantis, but he was clearly talking about him, and as well the Hectoring Tone as jason mentioned towards people who had not gotten the vaccine. It was quite accusatory. I have a hard time understanding how he thinks this is going to do anything but politicize a very important issue, which is vaccination. It just causes people to hunker down and decide for political reasons they are going to fight back against the president s mandates, which are going to be difficult to enforce compliance as it is, so i dont think it is going to have the desired effect as the president hopes. Paul yeah, alicia just very quickly, its not just florida and texas. A lot of big cities in this country have pockets where theyre very low Vaccination Rates. He didnt mention that. Right. He didnt mention that miamidade has nearly 80 Vaccination Rates compared to [inaudible] which has about 53 . You look at l. A. And other New York, it is about 63 . So, you know, the pockets are actually in areas where you have a lot of low income people, and to be honest minorities. Yes some republicans have been vaccine hesitant and have opposed vaccines, but a lot of minorities have as well. These are people you would think that President Biden should be able to reach and persuade. Paul when we come back, the Justice Department sues the state of texas as the fallout from its controversial new Abortion Law continues. And i love the science behind Neuriva Plus. Unlike ordinary memory supplements, Neuriva Plus fuels six key indicators of Brain Performance. More Brain Performance . Yes, please neuriva. Think bigger. Paul Attorney General Garland announcing thursday that the Justice Department is suing the state of texas over its new Abortion Law, saying it was enacted in Open Defiance of the constitution. The Supreme Court last week denying an Emergency Request to block the bill, which effectively bans abortions after six weeks. All this prompting renewed calls on the left to expand the High Court and eliminate the legislative filibuster so democrats can codify Roe Versus Wade into law. So alicia, what do you think about this federal lawsuit that justice announced . Right thing to do . I think it is political. If you read the lawsuit, its not even clear or doubtful that the Justice Department and the federal government has the standing to sue. It makes some references to how Labor Department [inaudible] could potentially be affected, sovereign interests could be affected but it hasnt shown any concrete injury. Its Filing Suit because the liberals have said you must file suit. Its pulling at straws here trying to figure out how to attack this law, which, you know, it Cant Attack under any kind of federal precedent. Paul jason, how do you see it . I guess my thinking is the White House probably gave Merrick Garland a sense that this is a good suit to file, but i think its not going to go anywhere. Right. It reminds me of the eviction moratorium, paul. This was filed for political reasons. I think this is a side show. A lot of people would like to see roe overturned, see the Issue Return to the states and let it be decided on a state by state basis, but how you go about doing that matters. We have a Rule Of Law in this country which includes judicial review, and this texas action is really an endrun around that, and it can be abused in other cases by someone who doesnt like handguns or Free Speech in a similar way. So this needs to be done the right way. I think this was largely a side show. The real Abortion Case to watch is the Dobbs One that is before the court now concerning Mississippis Ban on abortions after 15 weeks. I believe thats before the court, and i think thats when they will get into the substance of this issue, and that directly challenges roe, and i think people should follow that case. Paul yeah, dan, to jasons point, i think this Duelling Law and now this lawsuit suggests that both sides are willing to abuse the law to push their abortion agenda. I dont like the Texas Law for the Reasons Jason suggested but this lawsuit strikes me as ill founded as well. I guess were doomed to have these legal battles for a long time to come because both sides see political advantage in it. Well, no question about that. But lets keep our eye on one thing, and that is the democrats, liberals, the left suggesting that the Texas Law is sufficient reason to break the filibuster and therefore expand the membership on the Supreme Court. There is no question i think for democrats when they talk about packing the court, expanding it, they have basically one thing in mind, and that is protecting roe v. Wade. The Supreme Court does not exist to protect roe v. Wade. It is much more important than that, but in the democratic and liberal mind, that is what the courts are all about. The Texas Law is a reaction to that. And i think so long as we have to battle over whether to pack the court or expand it and the battle is built around abortion, it is going to just become this political issue that really ends up with both sides abusing the Court System for its original intention. Paul alicia, i think that the Texas Law is likely to be overturned as soon as somebody tries to enforce it. The defendants will call for a dismissal saying it is unconstitutional, and i think the courts will agree. What do you think . I think thats almost certain, especially under roe v. Wade but also because of this action which allows people, any private citizen to file suit, civil lawsuit in State Court against someone, an abortion provider, anyone who is aiding or abetting in abortion. As i said, this is a very novel law, and, you know, i think the courts could actually rule on both issues. Paul yeah. I think it is likely to find that constitutionally problematic as well. Thank you all. We have to take one more break. When we come back, hits and misses of the week. Ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Whoo hoo ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. Ensure complete some carriers will give yo just one measly Entertainment Subscription one is no fun. With verizon theres up to seven Entertainment Subscriptions with your unlimited plan. Thats 7 times the. Hahahaa 7 times the. weeping Noo Noo 7 times the. Yes ahhhh music, gaming, Disney , Hulu Espn and more. 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Jason, first to you. Call, a large group, about 200 journal editors easily put out a statement not about medical research but about Global Warming and Climate Change because thats why people read medical journeys journals, to learn about Climate Change. Im being sarcastic but this is a theory serious issue. Continue weighing in on political issues to undermine what they have to say about Public Health and we dont need that. This is a big hit to the tennis players punching about their weight of the u. S. Open this week here. Theyve made it to semi finals, both are some of the standout players at the open. You might say the generous Immigration System is winning. Paul okay, mary. They hit for the Women Of Afghanistan went this week to protest the taliban government, all male hardline cabinet. The women were chanting, carrying signs calling for reno and of course our friend attacked them with clubs and sticks and whips and they went after journalists and even a boy standing by. International community is watching but i dont think the taliban cares. Paul such a strategy. The state of oregon, theres a viral video author, a Lowes Store and oregon where some guys are loading Electrical Wire and calmly walking them out and putting them into their car. Many counties in oregon have regarded shoplifting is no longer a j level crime because of covid and a lot of stores have told their security people, dont get involved with the shoplifters. Prosecutors around the country do not prosecute shoplifting which is turning into a large national area of crime. Im afraid this anarchy in oregon could be from the norm elsewhere in the united states, unfortunately. Paul thank you. Remember, if you have your own hit or miss, tweeted to us at je are off fnc. Thanks to our panel and for all of you for watching. I am paul gigot, hope to see you here next week. Today as remark 20 years since september 11, we remember all those we lost on that terrible day in our nations history. 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