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Chris what happens to those americans and afghan allies left behind, a week after the final pullout from kabul . Were joined by congressman Michael Mccall, a top republican on the house foreign Affairs Committee. Plus the fda scrambles to study the benefits of covid boosters, as the biden administration pushes a deadline to start rolling them out. Well ask one of the nations top Public Health experts about criticism the White House is getting ahead of the science. President Biden Blisters the Supreme Court for refusing to block a new texas ban on most abortions after six weeks. The most pernicious thing about the Texas Law Sort of creates a vigilante system. Chris we will ask our Sunday Panel what it signals for roe v. Wade, all right now on Fox News sunday. Hello again from Fox News in washington. More than 60 people are dead as the country faces a long recovery from Hurricane Ida. The devastation stretching from the gulf to the northeast. The storm disabling the Power Grid across louisiana and creating miserable conditions for people facing high heat and humidity. And in the northeast, folks are still digging out from massive flooding. In a moment, well speak with the person in charge of the federal response, Fema Administrator. But first, lets bring in Bryan Llenas on the ground in New Jersey. Bryan . Chris, a powerful Ef3 Tornado went through this community in New Jersey destroying dozens of homes. It was one of seven twisters to hit the region, spawned by the remnants of ida, the fifth strongest hurricane to ever hit the u. S. A week after Hurricane Ida made landfall in louisiana, Hundreds Of Thousands of people are still without power in dangerously hot 100 degree weather. It will be a month before power is fully restored after the category 4 storms 150 milesperhour winds blackedout all of new orleans, while demolishing whole communities. Utter devastation, like a bomb went off. Ida brought recordbreaking rainfall to the northeast. New York City issued its first Flash Flood Emergency in its history, as water inundated Subway Stations and submerged Westchester County in 14 feet of water. In New Jersey, roadways turned to rivers forcing hundreds of Water Rescues as walls of Water Demolished Homes and businesses. People have been warning for decades that the effect of Climate Change and what it would do to our communities, its happening right now. It is not a future threat. This as wildfires in california have burned three times as much land compared to the same time last year, fuelled by severe drought. Nearly 1 in 3 americans reportedly lives in a county that has experienced a Weather Disaster over the last three months. President biden will be visiting new york and New Jersey on tuesday to survey the extensive damage. Chris . Chris bryan, thank you. And joining us now is the Fema Administrator. Administrator, one week after Hurricane Ida first made landfall on the gulf coast, how many fema workers do you still have on the coast and up in the northeast, and how bad are conditions still . Good morning, chris. Thanks so much for having me on today. We still have well over A Thousand responders that are on the ground in louisiana and several hundred more that have been supporting the events that happened in the northeast. Hurricane ida, she left a devastating path, not only was it the fifth most powerful hurricane, but it impacted southern louisiana as a category 4 for hours. The road to recovery in that part of louisiana is going to take a very long time. Theres a lot of devastation. Chris you know, when a massive hurricane, you say a category 4 hits the coast, we expect there to be severe damage. I think the surprise is that days later, and more than A Thousand miles away, that ida did such devastation in the northeast, including new York City, and here is that Citys Mayor Bill de blasio talking about that. Take a look. I think we now understand that every attempt at projection bluntly is failing us. Lets be clear. Were getting from The Very Best Experts Projections that then are made a Mockery Of in a matter of minutes. Chris question, why is that . Why are the projections so off . You know, we are definitely beginning to see the impacts of Climate Change. This storm in particular, it intensified so rapidly in the atlantic or in the gulf that emergency managers, Emergency Responders had even a shorter time to warn the Public And Help get them out of harms way. And were also seeing as this storm and some of the other Weather Events that weve seen, theyre just intensifying very rapidly and dropping a large amount of rain and tornadoes. This is the crisis of our generation, these impacts that were seeing from Climate Change. We have to act now to try to protect against the future risks that were going to face. Chris i want to put up you talk about that, and it isnt just this Week And Ida and the areas hit, i want to put up a list of the extreme Weather Events we have had across the country this year, exceeding 1 Billion dollars in damages, each of them, flooding, extreme cold, tornadoes, severe storms, wildfires, and yes, hurricanes. Administrator, is this a normal run of disasters that this country faces in a year . I think this is going to be our new normal. We saw intense Weather Events in 2017. Last year was a Record Number of hurricanes and a record wildfire season. The u. N. Had just put out their climate report, and they said that this is the Climate Crisis that were facing, and it is only going to continue to get worse. Chris i know that youre not a climate scientist, but let me ask you a question a lot of people ask, how can Climate Change do all of these things, be responsible for extreme heat and drought, but also record cold, flooding, as i say, and wildfires . How could it be responsible for all of those, sometimes which would seem to be directly contra contradictory Weather Effects . I dont know how it impacts it significantly, but i do know we are seeing more frequent storms and more intense storms that are intensifying more rapidly. We have to start planning for what the future might hold and do modelling thats going to help us predict what these future risks are going to be. Chris well, lets pick up on that because if Climate Change is going to continue, and if these Weather Extremes as theyre called are going to get worse, is fema as it now exists, as the agency that you run, is it equipped to deal with a growing problem . The focus that i really want to help fema move towards is focusing on reducing the impacts that were seeing from these. We will continue to respond to these threats and these events as they happen, but we have to start investing and reducing the impacts that were seeing from these. Thats why this year President Biden has authorized close to 5 Billion Dollars to invest in Hazard Mitigation to start reducing the impacts that we are seeing from the increased number of disastrous events. Chris but, you know, we just showed the billions of dollars that each of these events have caused. I understand 5 Billion Dollars even in washington is real money, but it is nothing like what you are going to need to deal with if were going to continue to see these kinds of strings of extreme Weather Events. No, you are right, chris, but this is a start. We have to start somewhere. This money is more than fema has ever been able to put out before, and were going to continue to work on trying to find additional funding. The building resilient infrastructure and Communities Grant Program that was authorized by the Disaster Recovery Resilience act is going to continue to give us larger amounts of money than we have ever had before. This is a start. We do have a Long Way To Go and a lot of investment that needs to be made. Chris well, lets talk about investment because the senate passed this 1 Trillion dollars bipartisan Infrastructure Plan. I have to say, i studied a lot of stuff with whats in it, but i didnt particularly study things that would help in terms of Climate Change. Are there elements in that bipartisan Infrastructure Plan that would protect parts of the country from extreme weather . To my understanding, there are parts of that plan that are going to also contribute and add additional funding to the mitigation efforts, but the other part of that plan is helping to strengthen our infrastructure in general. We have a very old infrastructure across this country, and we need to work on rebuilding that, building it back stronger so it can be more resilient to these future threats. Chris this is going to get to probably a little more political than you want to get, administrator, but this was passed last month, the Infrastructure Plan by the senate. Now it is being held up in the house with a debate over another 3 Trillion Dollars plan. If Climate Change and if Weather Extremes are such a clear and present danger, would you like to see even if you pass the bill today, it is going to take a while to get shovels in the ground, would you like to see this Infrastructure Plan pass sooner rather than later so that you can get going on this . No, the Mitigation Projects that need to be done, they are going to take time. We do need to start though right now planning for what those projects are going to be and learning where were going to invest our money to make sure we are creating a more resilient infrastructure, more resilient communities. Weve already started at fema with the 5 Billion Dollars. This is just going to add additional capacity for us to really focus on the areas that need to be strengthened because these threats arent going to go away and we need to start to reduce those impacts. Chris i want to ask you a final question, less as the Fema Administrator and more somebody who has dealt with a lot of these issues for a long time. You have had quite a career, 21 years as a firefighter in colorado, spent two years as the Emergency Management Administrator in new York City. Youve been the Fema Administrator since april. Is this country prepared for the worsening effects of Climate Change . Could, you know, you hear about coastal areas that may be swamped. Could this country be transformed if we dont get a handle on Climate Change over the next decade . You know, what i would say is it is an emergency management system. It takes everybody from the local, state, and federal level to make sure that we are working collectively to ensure were ready for the disasters that come. It is a combination of making sure that were ready and we rely on each other to respond to these events, but also working together to invest in reducing the impacts. The only way that were going to be able to continue to respond to this large number of Weather Events that were seeing is to start to reduce the impacts that were seeing from them. Chris but simple question right now are we ready . I believe were ready. We have invested a lot of money from the Fema Side into the state and local communities to enhance their preparedness. Our Grant Programs continue to invest in their capabilities to help them make sure they are ready to respond. Chris administrator, thank you. Thank you for taking the time to talk with us. We will be tracking the ongoing relief efforts. Thank you. Thank you, chris. Chris up next, americans and our local allies stuck in afghanistan, as the biden administration explores if it can somehow work with the taliban. Well talk with a key house republican Michael Mccall about that and the growing terror that and the growing Terror Threats when we com on ancestry i discovered more about my greatgreatgrandfather baptiste caretto. Ancestry threads all of the little facts together into a narrative so you get to feel like youre walking the same path they did. music another day, another chance. Together into a narrative so you get to feel like make the most of it with the network that can deliver Gig Speeds to the most businesses. 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As the top republican on the house foreign Affairs Committee, do you know the answer to that . Ive been given the answer in the classified space, but it is in the hundreds. We have Hundreds Of American Citizens left Behind Enemy Lines in afghanistan as i speak. And also very sadly, the interpreters who worked with our special forces, almost all of them were left behind and were not let in the gates at the airport at hki to get out. That was a promise that the president made. I said all along this president has blood on his hands. This week, this last week, we had 13 service men and women come home, flagdraped coffins at dover airbase. This problem is going to get worse, not better. And its we have left them behind. Thats a basic credo of the military. Chris sir, i asked a slightly different question though than the one you answered. Not how many are still left. Do you know how many of those americans and how many of those afghan allies have gotten out of the country since we pulled out on monday . Right, so the americans themselves, probably around 5,000 range and the Visa Card holders chris no, sir, wait, wait. No, what im asking is, since we left the country on friday, how many americans have gotten out of afghanistan, since we pulled out, how many afghan allies have gotten out since the taliban was in complete control of the country . I understand zero. And in fact, we had six airplanes at sharif airport. Six airplanes with american citizens on them as i speak, also with these interpreters, and the taliban is holding them hostage for demands right now. The state has cleared these flights, and the taliban will not let them leave the airport. So im sorry, the answer to your question is zero. Thats my concern is they are going to demand more and more, whether it be cash or legitimacy as the government of afghanistan. Chris let me pick up on this because i didnt know this. Youre saying that there are americans on airplanes ready to fly out of afghanistan right now, and theyre not being allowed out because taliban is making demands. What demands are the Taliban Making . Well, they are not clearing the airplanes to depart. Theyve sat at the airport for the last couple of days. These planes, and theyre not allowed to leave. We know the reason why is because the taliban want something in exchange. This is really, chris, turning into a hostage situation, where they are not going to allow american citizens to leave until they get full recognition from the united states of america. My concern is that the Special Envoy who has met with the taliban, they are in talks right now, and i worry his recommendation to the administration will be to recognize the taliban as the official government of the united states, a taliban organization that is a terrorist organization. Chris there are also reports that the taliban is now carrying out mass killings of former afghan government officials, former afghan defense forces. Can you shed any light on that . Yes. Executions are taking place. Were getting videos coming in, stories of interpreters being, you know, blocked by the taliban. Remember, they had a perimeter around the airport itself. The interpreters couldnt get through that perimeter. Most americans did. Some got blocked by our own u. S. Government at the airport. The State Department wholly failed in this evacuation, and we had to rely on groups like Operation Task forces like Pineapple And Dunkirk who i implore the State Department to work with to help get these americans and interpreters left behind out. But the retaliation has been severe, chris. Stories of interpreters being taken home to their families and watching their wives and families being beheaded, executed before they execute the interpreter. This is not a new and improved taliban. This is the same old taliban. Theyre reverting back to the same brutal practices. Theres reports also i was on the phone last weekend with top officials at Dod And State trying to get 250 Orphan Girls, afghan Orphan Girls from the university from the music you know, theyre musicians, out of the country, had visas, and our own u. S. Government would not open the gate to let them in. Now theyve returned, and now theyre in talibans enslavement. We know they marry off young women as young as 12, many times 14 years old. Its a very sick culture. And they treat women like property. I worry about the women left behind as well. Chris let me pick up on this because administration officials continue to say that they believe that they can work with the taliban, both to get americans and our afghan allies out and also to join together in Fighting Groups like isisk. Here is white House Press Secretary Jen Psaki this week. We have an enormous amount of leverage including access to the global marketplace which is not a small piece of leverage to the taliban who are now overseeing large swaths of afghanistan. Chris given that they are now in charge of afghanistan, should we try to find some way to work with the taliban . Can we find some way to work with the taliban . Well, i think in many respects, because this administration ignored the warnings of the Intelligence Community assessments, Overrode The top generals, we find ourself in this very precarious dangerous situation where the taliban is Dictating Terms to us, where they are deck tating the terms of our exit dictating the terms of our exit strategy, dictating whether the americans can leave or not or the interpreters, and mr. Putin himself stared down our president at the summit and said you Cant Build Isr intelligence capabilities in the region. The problem is, chris, weve gone dark. When bagram went down, when we turned it over to the afghan partners in taliban hands, with all the cash and weaponry, when our Embassy Wont down, we went dark. We have no eyes and ears in country. And we cant see russia, china, and iran. This is a major national security threat. I warned the administration for months to get the americans out, but also establish this isr capability, which we have none now. Now, were left in this very desperate situation, a very bad Foreign Policy of having to negotiate with the taliban, which i always skeptical of having to do, and yeah, we do have frozen assets. Thats the only leverage we have left because we have no military on the ground, and we have no Intelligence Capability on the ground. Chris let me pick up on that because the president continues to talk about our, quote, over the Horizon Ability to combat terrorists which basically means we can do it from outside of afghanistan, and he points to the two hits in the last week or so on isisk terrorists, how do you assess the Terror Threat from afghanistan now that the taliban is completely in control, and how do you assess our ability to deal with that Terror Threat from over the horizon . Its a great question. This over the Horizon Capability is greatly exaggerated because we dont have anything near afghanistan. Its a landlocked country, surrounded by our enemies, russia, china, iran, who have now been emboldened by this Foreign Policy blunder. How do we go forward . I think we have to establish that isr, you know, somewhere over the Horizon Capability means flying from the gulf, probably countries like qatar, which would be, you know, anywhere from six to eight hours, having to fly, you know, around iran, over pakistan, get refuelling. This is not when i talk to anybody in the military, they tell me this is not adequate for us to have isr capability. What we need to see, eyes and ears on the ground to see the threat so that we can respond to the threat and eliminate it. We dont have that capability anymore, and chris, were going back to pre9 11 right now, but its worse. Its worse because now theyre fully armed with our weapons, our helicopters, and palates of our cash. Chris congressman mccaul, thank you. Thanks for your time. Pretty chilling conversation. Always good to talk with you, sir. You too, chris. Thanks for having me. Chris up next, the biden administrations plan for Covid19 Booster shots goes under the microscope. 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We are now averaging more than 160,000 new cases a day in this country, more than 1500 deaths a day, and more than 100,000 people in this country are in hospitals. But doctor, the Upward Curve, the sharp Upward Curve has flattened out a little bit of new cases, new infections, deaths. The curve has flattened a little bit. Where are we right now with covid and the Delta Wave . Yes, chris, as you said, i mean, we have an enormous amount of infections across the country, people getting sick, 1500 americans dying. This is all a vaccine preventable disease now, right . So none of this should be happening. That said i do think we are peaking particularly across american south, where i see cases in florida and louisiana, arkansas, starting to turn down. Infection numbers are still rising in the midwest and Great Plains and the northeast but at much slower rates, particularly in states that have high vaccination numbers. Chris having said that, some experts are saying that with all of the Labor Day Weekend travel, with kids going back to school, with more and more people resuming their prepandemic lives. I was watching college football yesterday, and there were stadiums filled with 80,000 people, no masks to be seen. Some people say that the Delta Spike Hasnt even really begun yet. How likely is that . Im more optimistic than that. I dont think we will see a doubling or tripling of cases from where we are today. Look, we might see the next week, ten days after we have after every major holiday, so i would not be surprised. We have so many more tools now than we have ever had before. Vaccines are one of them. More testing, mask wearing in key places. Theres a lot we can do to prevent that kind of horrible surge. That would have happened maybe last year given when we didnt have all these tools. Chris there is quite a debate now. I mentioned it at the beginning of the segment about whether or not the country needs another full program to give people a third Booster Shot of vaccine. Here was President Biden this week on that. Our medical experts announced a plan for Booster Shots to every fully vaccinated american, adult american. You know, this will boost your immune response. It will increase your protection from covid19. Chris but and the president was talking, we were sitting here on September 5th about starting this program on September 20th. Doctor, the fda and the cdc still havent approved a full booster program. Its become clear that even if they do, that were not going to start seeing moderna boosters on September 20th, and this week two top Vaccine Regulators at the fda resigned, and according to some sources, part of it was because they felt that were getting ahead of ourselves. President biden promised that he wasnt going to let politics he wasnt going to get the White House get ahead of the science. Is he doing that right now with these boosters . Lets talk about where the science is, and we get science from a lot of places, certainly from the companies running the trials. We can also look at israel and their experience. And where the data and the science is i think pretty clear on a couple of things. One is, it is clear to me that this is probably going to end up being a three shot vaccine package, and so the idea of a third shot as part of how you get fully vaccinated is something were learning, and it is probably right particularly for vulnerable people. Theres No Doubt in my mind that people who are in nursing homes, people who are frail elders, people with chronic diseases, people with immuno compromised states, they need to be getting that third shot, probably about six months after their second shot. Thats where the science and data is. No doubt we want the fda to fully approve that. We want the cdc to aprove it. We dont want to get ahead of the process, but the evidence for vulnerable people needing a third shot i think is coming into focus at this point. Whether a young healthy person that im much less clear about. Chris young the people arent coming young healthy people arent coming up on their six months yet. Heres the president basically announcing a program on September 20th before the Fda Or Cdc have approved it, not just for the smaller group youre talking about. Does that trouble you at all . I would like to [inaudible] a bit cleaner. The way we have always done this in American Medicine is we have Fda And Cdc lead, and then the White House follows. I think what i suspect is happening is the White House is looking at the data from israel. They have their experts like dr. Fauci and basically saying this is where we need to head and beginning to communicate that. I agree with your point, though, that it is absolutely essential that the Fda And Cdc also approve any such thing. Chris another subject, as you know, there is a battle in several states about mandates that that there are bans on mandates for masking in the schools. How strong is the science that for kids, lets say up through 18, that masks in schools are important and make a difference . This is unnecessarily political. I dont really understand why it has become so. What i say about kids and masking is the evidence clearly leans towards the masking being helpful in preventing infections, preventing spread. Its not [inaudible]. The evidence is strong, but not i would say overwhelming. But the bottom line is that it should be part of a broader package. If you just do masking, probably not enough, but if we have testing in schools, if we improve ventilation, we get adults vaccinated, it is absolutely possible to get every child back to school full time, safely this fall. We shouldnt be turning these things into political battles. We should be looking at the data and then driving policy based on that. Chris ive got two questions i want to squeeze in in the last two minutes. I read a report, actually several reports this week that Cloth Masks, which frankly are the kinds of masks i usually wear are not really effective. Is that true . Yeah, Cloth Masks unto themselves generally not effective. Thats why i think surgical masks are better. There are of course higher quality masks. Cloth masks may be 10 or 20 percent effective, not great against the Delta Variant. Chris youre saying this mask i have been wearing for a Year Isnt really protecting me very much . Im saying that given the Delta Variant thats out there, you probably need to upgrade your mask, chris. Chris well, thank you for that. I think a lot of people thank you. Finally, you know, there is increasing talk about new variants. One of them is the Mu Variant that comes from colombia. How concerned are you about that, specifically . And how concerned are you just generally that as this continues, we could end up with a variant that defeats the vaccines were now getting . Yeah, what i think people need to know is were going to see more variants. The reason were going to see more variants is a global pandemic. When large outbreaks are happening throughout the world, were going to see more variants. The best way to suppress it is get people vaccinated. Im not concerned about Mu Or Lamda yet. The data so far has said they arent going to escape our vaccines. Obviously something were concerned about. I think our vaccines will hold up, but we need to pay attention to the data. Chris doctor, thank you. Thank you for joining us. Please come back. Thank you. Chris up next, we will bring in our Sunday Group to weigh in on the new debate over a Texas Abortion Law that could have big implications for roe v. Wade. And there you have it woah. 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Our Sunday Group, the dispatch, Katherine Lucy who covers the White House for the Wall Street Journal and democratic congressman ford. Theres quite a debate going on inside conservative circles about the developments this week with the Supreme Court. I think it is fair to say that prolife groups are thrilled at the idea that a Law Banning Abortions at about six weeks is on the books, but there are other conservatives concerned about the general precedent beyond abortion, this idea of laws that would deputize private citizens to police various kinds of behavior. I think thats exactly right. A lot of people dont understand that this sba was essentially designed almost in a lab like a Special Key to unlock the defenses against lawsuits that affect abortion visavis roe v. Wade and it could set up all sorts of troubling precedents if this tactic of sort of going around normal injunctive relief and deputizing citizens. There are a lot of people thinking that the Dobbs Case coming out of mississippi which is already on the docket which is a traditional assault at roe has pretty good chances and this may muddy the waters in all sorts of ways and allows a lot of abortion supporters to essentially work the [inaudible] for a very long time against the Supreme Court. Chris lets look. You mentioned the Mississippi Case. Lets look at where the Supreme Court stands right now on restricting abortions. Lets put this up on the screen. Court precedence right now prohibits states from banning abortions prior to fetal viability. Thats roughly 22 to 24 weeks into pregnancy, but now you have the Texas Law, which is on the books, which bans abortions around six weeks, and as you mentioned, jonah, the court will hear a Mississippi Case this term to ban abortions after 15 weeks. Harold, how much trouble is the precedent of roe v. Wade which basically protects womens rights to have an abortion stated womens rights to have an abortion at least up to viability. How much trouble is roe v. Wade in right now . There are certainly going to be questions. I think the trouble will have to see how the court decides. I do think Chief Justice roberts whose respect for precedent is not only long admired by some, but is certainly established. I think politics of this unfortunately is just so bad on one side for democrats and perhaps good on the other. Bad in that there are democrats fuming still over the way some of the Supreme Court justices were rushed through the system, but the other side is you have a Virginia Governors race and you have a Speaker Of The House where this issue is going to play prominently. As you look at some of the opponents of the Texas Law, i would agree with Jonahs Assessment of muddying the waters, even those who oppose roe, which i dont, but those who oppose roe have issue with this Texas Law. Again, you have already seen it playing out in the Virginia Governors race with Terry Mcauliffe making clear his support for reproductive rights and trying to highlight his opponents maybe desire to do what Governor Abbott has done in texas, if hes elected. Chris lets talk about the politics because President Biden this week, as soon as the ruling came out from the court, and remember, it was not a ruling on the constitutionality that Texas Law. It was a decision not to block the Law And Part of it may have been because the way it is written. Normally you would injoin an Attorney General or local prosecutor from enforcing the law, much harder to do when private citizens have been deputized and none of them have enforced the law yet. Here is how President Biden came out after the Texas Abortion Law ruling by the court this week. Take a look. The most pernicious thing about the Texas Law is sort of creates a vigilante system, where people get rewards to go out [inaudible], and it just seems i know this sounds ridiculous, almost unamerican. Chris catherine, how does the biden white House View this case and the ruling by the Supreme Court, both as policy and also as politics . You saw, chris, certainly strong words there from the president , saying this is unamerican. And they are looking at this in a couple of ways. In terms of the policy, the White House has said they are conducting a governmentwide review on anything they can do in this moment that involves the department of justice, health and human services. They have been meeting with, you know, abortion advocates, and they are trying to figure out if theres any next steps they can take from the administration. We will have to see what that unfolds. You know, that obviously is a complicated process. In terms of politics, you know, ive heard from the White House and from democrats, you know, they do see this as a really major issue now going into the midterms next year. They really think this could galvanize women, particularly the women in suburban areas some key congressional districts democrats would need to hold the house. You see that as harold mentioned already playing out in races around the country like in virginia where democrat Terry Mcauliffe is talking about how if a republican is elected, this too could happen in virginia. So they really see this as a strong issue. I think you are going to hear a lot more from them on that. Chris jonah, you know, i have always thought that abortion is an issue that animates the prochoice no, the prolife side more than the prochoice side, as long as the right to an abortion stands, but if the right to an abortion is lost, or if its severely restricted, i wonder if the politics of this issue doesnt change dramatically and it animates if they fear they are losing it or theyve lost it animates the prochoice side a lot more. I think thats a very good question. I dont think anybody can really appreciate how distorting and influential roe v. Wade has been for the last 50 years of american politics. It essentially created the prolife movement. It became the Galvaniing Principle in the republican party in many respects. There are a lot of republican voters who probably are in favor of some sort of compromise on abortion but feel comfortable voting for republicans because they think roe v. Wade is there to stay. If it goes away, that could upset everything. Its worth pointing out, though, look at the democrats in texas. We heard so much about the voting Rights Bill coming out of texas. You know, they fled to washington. They did all this press. This bill was passed in may. Democrats in texas said nothing about it. And that also points to the fact that black and hispanic voters, theyre all unified on the issue of voting rights. They are not all unified on the issue of abortion. Getting rid of Roe Wouldnt End abortion in america, but it would completely overturn our political assumptions about american politic. Chris harold, i want to pick up on something that catherine said, the response from the White House, we will have a whole of government response. We will talk to the various agencies, but in a practical sense, how much can the biden administration or the very slim democratic majorities in congress do . I mean, it seems to me the obvious things are either you one, codify roe v. Wade, you make it the law of the land, or two, you expand the courts so you have a different set of judges. But unless you kill the filibuster, you cant do either of those things. You asked a great question, chris, and i think you answered it pretty well as well. I think that the courts is where the Supreme Court is where this matter is going to be resolved. And it could of Course Catalyze and provoke a lot of discussion. President Biden Has said he wont end the filibuster. Politics has created the problem. Politics will likely give us some solution because if you see a number of democratic governors elected, reelected, if you see the house democratic majority swell, and if you see democrats take control of the senate with even with a bigger majority, i think the people will have spoken. But immediately the court will have this decision about this time next year. We will know if this Mississippi Law stands or not. Chris thank you, panel. See you next sunday. Up next, our Power Player of the week. Admiral william mcraven, the commander of u. S. Special forces. For some of its most daring operations on what it takes to make a hero. [female narrator] The End [music playing backwards] of Hunger And Poverty [music playing backwards continues] starts here. Your gift of an animal from Heifer International can help a family with food and income. All while caring for the earth. Heifer international. Learn more at heifer dot org. Chris as the nation marks 20 years since 9 11 and now The End of the war in afghanistan, many are reflecting on the bravery of the men and women who served there. Everyday americans who stepped up and became heroes. This weeks Power Player is among them. And as we told you this spring, he says heroes live by a code. If. If. If you look at the Textbook Definition of a hero, its someone we admire for their noble qualities. And i actually think thats a pretty good definition. Chris Admiral William Mcraven knows about heroes. He was a Navy Seal for 37 years, then took command of the u. S. Special forces that rescued captain phillips, captured Saddam Hussein and took down osama Bin Laden. In his new book, the Hero Code, mcraven offers a blueprint for finding the hero in each of us. Some of the qualities you talk about in the Hero Code seem obvious, courage, sacrifice. But i think some may surprise people like compassion. Yeah. I do think when you Take A Look at compassion, again, these noble virtues are really about are you making the people around you better. Chris mcraven gives the example of an actor who brought Compassion Right into a meeting of top u. S. Brass in afghanistan. In comes this civilian, and he says my names gary sinise. And he went on to make this very compassionate and this passionate plea to get some c130s in order to bring School Supplies to the children. And you could see the entire tenor of the room change. When you see this compassion come forward, again, this great noble quality eerily changes everything about your own internal belief in the humanity of man. Chris mcraven tells of of meeting another hero when he was late to brief president obama, and a young airman refused to let him into an of Bagram Air base because he wasnt on her list. Of course, im thinking, yeah, im threestar admiral, ill take care of this. And she looks me in the eye and says, sir, i have a job to do. You are not on the list of approved people to enter. Ten minutes later, you know, we get the word, we pass through. On the way back we come through the same gate. I stop, i get out of the car, and i say, airman, do you know that i was ten minutes late briefing the President Of The United States . Yes, sir. And i said, you can come work for me anytime. And then she said something to me, she said, sir, i was just doing my duty. Doing your duty in life and doing it to the best of your ability is important. It is a noble virtue. It is a noble quality, and i think its what makes our heroes out there. Chris finally, how do we tap into what you say is the hero in all of us . Im hoping that as people read the Hero Code they will see that these values can be learned. You can learn to be courageous. You can learn to be humble. And i really hope that this younger generation will read this book, they will see that these are learned qualities because we need them to be our heroes. We need them to move us ahead as a society. Chris admiral, thank you. My pleasure, chris, thanks. Chris what a remarkable man and what an honor to talk with him. Its now been more than ten years since mcraven oversaw the laid on osama Bin Ladens compound. And with all the criticism of how we got out of afghanistan, its Worth Remembering that getting Bin Laden and degrading alqaeda was the original objective. As you may have heard by now, ive written a new book called countdown Bin Laden, the untold story of the 247day Hunt to bring the mastermind of 9 11 to justice. Its a behind the Scenes Account of how americas intelligence, political and military communities worked so well together to pull it off. You can Preorder Countdown now, it comes out this tuesday, just days before we mark 20 years since 9 11. And thats it for today. Have a great week, and well see you next Fox News sunday. Ext time on mark, liberty and love. Steve breaking tonight as biden in the media move on a u. S. Citizen and cobble report to tell the banner going doortodoor Hunting Americans in the leading republican congressman has seen six planes are being held hostage by the taliban. Good Evening And Welcome to the next revolution im Steve Hilton and this is positive populism profamily, procommunity and especially pro america. Three members of congress have said biden should be removed for office using the 25th am

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