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Isisk threat in afghanistan as u. S. Lawmakers raise questions about the vetting of afghan evacuees. Former national Security Adviser Robert obrien will be here live with his take on all that. And another heartbreaking moment on the southern border as a Little Migrant Girl carrying her Toddler Brother on her back dies alongside her mother on their dangerous trek to the united states. Former Dhs Secretary Chad wolf is live with reaction to that and theth massive spike of drugs coming into the country. Plus, the fight over masking in schools and who should be making the call, parents or the government. Dr. Nicole saphier live on the medical view. All that and more as we look ahead on Sunday Morning futures. Jason President Biden facing widespreaden criticism over americas botched exit from afghanistan, some even accusing the commander in chief of lying. Its hurting his Approval Rating which has dropped to 43 in an npr poll. The fierce blowback against the president coming after he failed to carry through on his promise to evacuate every american and every afghan ally who wanted to leave the country. Among those still stranded behind taliban lines, an afghan interpreter who helped Rescue Thensenator Biden and other u. S. Lawmakers during a 2008 trip to afghanistan when a snowstorm stranded their helicopter. Still, the president called the withdrawal, quote, an extraordinary success. But now hes getting called out for repeatedly making this claim the consensus was that it was highly unlikely that in 11 days theyd collapse and fall. The overwhelming consensus was that they, this was they were not going to collapse, the afghan forces. They were not going to leave. The idea that the taliban would take over was premised on the notion that the, that somehow the 300,000 troops we had trained and equipped was going to just collapse, they were going to give up. I dont think anybody anticipated that. Jason but that may not be the case. A transcript of a July 23rd Phone Call reported last week shows President Biden appearing to pressure his afghan counterpart to create a perception the taliban wasnt winning. Biden telling ashraf ghaani, quote i need not tell you the perception Around The World and in parts of afghanistan, i believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban X there is a need whether its true or not there is a need to project a different picture. That a call came weeks before taliban took control of kabul ultimately led to the deaths of 13 young u. S. Service members. Joining me now, republican Congressman Brian Mast of florida, a veteran of the War In Afghanistan who serves on the house foreign Affairs Committee. Congressman mast, thanks for joining us on Sunday Morning futures. Glad to be with you, jason. Jason thank you so much for joining us. Listen, thank you so much for your service. You lost both your legs in service in afghanistan. You were a warrior. Your perception and your vote probably counts a lot more given your service there in afghanistan. When you hear the president say that nobody had anticipated that the taliban would overtake the country, is that believable . Its not believable whatsoever. But when you layer that on this report that he attempted to manipulate intelligence, that is one of the most serious charges that can be levied in the face of all ofhe this. Lets pull back the curtain on that Just A Little Bit and say, okay, youre manipulating intelligence because you want a different perception. Who are all the entities that are paying attention to that intelligence to try and make realtime decisions for the military or for the Department Of State . Aits Members Of Congress. Were getting briefings from all of the intelligence agencies. Theyre trying to figure out if they have a consensus on what they believe will happen. And if all of that is being minuted to try and reach some manipulated to try and reach some optimal moment which we know what was going on in afghanistan, the president was trying to reach specific optics for a celebration of 9 11 with withdrawal, that is directly what put our Service Members and so many others in that danger because there was a massive misperception of what was actually going on on the ground because they tried to change that intelligence. And in t my mind, thats giving Aid And Comfort to the enemy. Jason is that the growing consensus, that this Withdrawal Date which was picked solely by President Biden and Kamala Harris, as we can tell it really was to be done because were highlighting, noting the anniversary, 20th an Verse Arely of 9 11 next saturday anniversary. Was that the Driving Impetus to get out by August 31st . Im not going to pretend that i can read President Bidens mind, but we know for a fact that this was the date that they originally picked to say that was going to be the exit date, wase 9 11. They originally picked that, in my opinion, because they wanted to make a very specific optic to show to thehe world, and they ended up creating a situation that, by every one of the president s own objectives, was a failure. The president laid out, he said my number one objective is to make sure that afghanistan can never again be used as a launch of terrorism. He for terrorism. He said in a different statement my number one job is to defend and protect america. Id say he screwed both of those up pretty bad. Jason t so this July 23rd call with president ghaani where hes saying we have to change the perception, that does lead one to believe this he knows the taliban are actually winning the fight, andnd theyre Marching On Kabul but didnt really do anything about it. In fact, the administration started to move on closing bagram, the Air Force Base which is 25 miles to the north of the kabul airport. Not just change the intelligence, apparently, is apparently what happened, ignored what the true intelligence was on the ground. And then beyond that, allowed himself to be intimidated which no american should ever be, intimidated into withdrawing from bagram, withdrawing from the embassy, leaving on the talibans timeline. And beyond that, siding with the taliban, seeking to give them recognition instead of siding with those that are still in afghanistan fighting the terrorists right to this very minute. Jason somehow this administration, the biden harris administration, believes they have leverage over the taliban. I have ave hard time seeing tha. If youre an american thats still in afghanistan and not l able to get out of the countr, What In The World are these people supposed to do . The administration, the state department, they have zero leverage over the taliban. They have this fake perception that because they control some of the dollars of the afghanistan government and theyre locking those up, that they have all this control over them, theyre going to be able to twist their arm in these kinds of ways to get people out. If they couldnt get people out through american strength or their lack of projecting it when we had people on the ground, theyre not going to be able to get people out when there are no americans there. The taliban rolled through afghanistan without having access to any of those dollars that theyre saying are this, quote, leverage that they have on them. Theyre not extremely worried about that. And now what do they have . They have the, quote, most advanced Military Weaponry to go out and do whatever they want to do in afghanistan or across other areas of the region. They have the leverage. The Taliban Hasag the Leverage N this. And beyond that, we know for a fact theyre now in close communication with china, with iran, with russia, with others that a want to go in there and, one, give the united states of america a greater black eye, but, two, be able to extract whatever they want from that region of afghanistan. Jason yeah. One of the few Natural Resources in afghanistan, a big copper mine, but the chinese have been controlling that for a long period of time. Youre on foreign affairs, whats going to happen . What are the interests of Iran And Russia and specifically china . I would say iran, Russia And China are unified on this front, and this should concern every american. It is blacking out the united states of america from that region. If anybody thinks that those three nations are going to do anything to allow american intelligence, our isr platforms, anything else into any of the stans, uzbekistan, kazahkstan, turkmenistan, afghanistan, anywhere in those areas of former soviet socialist republic, theyre not going to allow us in there. Theres no person on the ground in there in those regions that are begging to say, hey, let me go become american human Intelligence Asset and work with them, because weve seen how well they treated those who worked with them in afghanistan. Theres nobody begging to do that. Soor that means our most vital forms of intelligence are totally blacked out in one of the most key regions to go and defendst against iran, to combat Chinas Aggression and to go out there and defend against Russias Aggression as well. Thats exactlyag whats happeni, and they are working together to make sure that we have a blindfold on when w it comes to that region. Jason yeah. The president said the bagram Air Force Base was as much the presence about china as it was afghanistan. More ahead, dont move, were coming right back to you, congressman mast. As a chorus of lawmakers calls for action against President Biden over the botched Afghan Exit gets louder, some even demanding impeachment while others say hes simply not fit for the job. What happened in afghanistan was wrong, it was terrible but, frankly, it wasnt surprising because what has this guy done right . Thats why they customize your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. [ nautical Horn Blows ] i mean just because you look like someone else doesnt mean you eat off the floor, or yell at the vacuum, or need flea medication. Oh, yeah. Thats the spot. Only pay for what you need. Liberty, liberty, liberty, Liberty Water . hey you catch mio. Thank you water tastes like, well. Water. So we fixed it. Mio. This is the greatest Idea Youll ever hear. 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Thats why i say he should resign. This morning i introduced three resolutions calling for resignation, one, for the president of our united states, another for his Secretary Of Defense and another for his chairman of the joint chiefs. Hes totally disconnected from the truth. Many, many other lies, and it just he needs to step down, he needs to resign or the cabinet needs to do something. Jason just some of the lawmakers calling for action against President Biden over his handling of the u. S. Troop withdrawal from afghanistan. Resignation, 11 are pushing for impeachment. 3 have brought up the 25th Amendment which provides for the Vice President to replace an incapacitated president. Back with them now republican congressman and afghan War Veteran brian mast, house foreign Affairs Committee. Congressman, where are you at in this, do you push for the 25th Amendment, do you push for impeachment, whats your solution . Congressman i think all 3 of these are realistic options if this were not the most partisan world that we lived in. No member of the cabinet is going to push for the 25th Amendment so i would say that one is out. Impeachment is absolutely something that should be considered i would say no less than 10,000 counts of reckless endangerment, all of the american lives over there, thats the minimum which is actually a real crime. Beyond that as i said already, we absolutely need to look at what is the truth about the Phone Call with afghany president and we know the taliban is a Sworn Enemy Of America and i would consider the manipulation of intelligence giving Aid And Comfort to the enemy, all three of those things are part of what meets the constitutional definition of treason and then you go beyond that and talk about impeachment. I think we all know prior to any changes in the majorities of House And Senate you would not see anything move on impeachment. They would not allow such a thing to come to committee to have any of those questions. Thats the reality of whats going on on the ground. Hes hallow, his decisions are empty and void of wisdom and across the board we see aggressors that hes dealing with, maybe theres an element of dementia that we might hear for years to come but at minimum the man appears schizophrenic with the statements in one camera and directly changing in front of the camera on different Day Or Day after that or what members of the cabinet are saying, there definitely has to be schizophrenia there. Jason listen, i had the honor to serve with you and often congress is impetus and the democrats control the congress, house and presidency, do you hear them on border, afghanistan and the above . I havent seen any serious movement, is there . To serious effort. Behind closed doors we hear different things from democrats and talking about whats going on in afghanistan, very upset about this but as soon as they walk out from behind those closed doors, they are unwilling to support anything publicly that questions what is going on there maybe with the exception of one or two representatives like zeth who went to check things out. Beyond that, you hear no descent of whats going on. Realize that Speaker Pelosi had Members Of Congress back about a week ago to not touch anything related to afghanistan and not say a word about it and not even to thereafter allow to read the names of those that were killed in afghanistan a few days after she called all members back. None of that occurred. It was simply to pass a 3 and a half to 4 trilliondollar Spending Bill and take the rights away to conduct their election laws. Thats what she brought people back for. Not a word about afghanistan. Thats where their head is at. Congressman, dont worry about it. The Vice President Kamala Harris shes right on top of it. I thought it was very telling that she was not standing by the president s side when he was supposedly taking a victory lap. I think that says everything that we need to know about it. Congressman brian mast, you served there, you lost your legs serving there and youre an American Hero and i hope is that you and all those americans who went over to serve in afghanistan they hold their head high and know how much this country loves and cares for you and for them and Everybody Else that serves in afghanistan. We have no problem with the boots on the ground. All the problems with the suits behind the decision, so thank you for your service. Thank you, jason. Jason thousands of afghans fled the country after the taliban retook control, many will be resettled here in the united states, our Jennifer Griffin spoke with general milley in germany about the Vetting Process. 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And our personnel on the ground in our Military Bases and these are among the risks that we take into account. Jason that was white House Press Secretary Jen Psaki on thursday warning about the Terror Threat from Isis K in afghanistan. In the meantime lawmakers here at home are worried about the possible national Security Threat just days before we mark 20 years since 9 11. 26 republican senators asking the Biden Administration for information on the Vetting Process for afghan evacuees. Many of whom may end up in the united states. Here is what the chairman of the joint Chiefs Mark Milley told our Jennifer Griffin yesterday in an exclusive interview. They are getting the names registered, biometrics, they are doing Irisis And Finger photo and they run against that at 20 years of databases that we have in interagency, they run it against the nctc checks and the fbi checks. If the individual, if evacuee has some sort of derogatory Information Or Something suspect at all, Itll Pop up as red or yellow. They popped about 30,000 or so people through here. Jason joining us Robert Obrien and served as the national Security Adviser to former President Trump. Thank you so much for joining us, ambassador. This Vetting Process, i mean, ive been to afghanistan a couple of times, only been there equivalent of a few days but its definitely a thirdworld country and not as if everybody has a Drivers License or birth certificate. This Vetting Process, how much confidence do you have on it . The american people are Big Hearted and generous and we want to bring the folks from afghanistan that helped us and helped sailers, marines to stay safe during the 20 years of war, we want to bring those enablers and those interpreters here and give them safe Life And Liberty and individual freedom that theyll be denied in afghanistan. So thats the best of america but at the same time we need to make very certain that the folks who come over here are the people they claim to be, that they were the ones that helped us and they are not radicals or not subject to radicalization and not going to do harm to america and the Vetting Process is important and we need to get it right. I commend Governor Cox and others who want to bring the afghans who are seeking freedom and want american way of life, bringing them over here. Its a balancing act. We need to protect our friends but we need to protect the american people from the wrong afghans and potential terrorists coming to our land. The latest numbers ive seen 20,000 are already in the united states, about 40,000 are still overseas as they go through the processing. But let me switch gears a little bit with you, ambassador, because the Bidenharris Administration calls it a total success. They are trying to put a spin on it as best they can but part of what they are claiming is that the Trump Administration of which you were the national Security Adviser, you had illprepared this, that you had put things into motion that caused this chaos and that it was really trumps fault for how chaotic it is today. Well, this debacle of the Bidenharris Evacuation or attempted evacuation and remember we left a lot of americans behind and ive been careful not the criticize the administration while we try to Get Americans and afghan Friends Home and will travel with us for many years ahead. We need to figure out how to Restore American Leadership. I think theres one thing that everyone knows Around The World, our friends, our foes and folks on the other side of the aisle. This would never happen through President Trump. He believes through peace through strength and importantly before our Military Equipment was evacuated. I mean, President Trump made that clear over and over again in the oval office. He did not want to see the taliban with Combat Aircraft and Black Hawk helicopters and hump vs and not just stay with the taliban and they will sell it. We see the leakage to this equipment to iran and equip the iranians revolutionary guard with all the equipment left behind. I think everyone knows this would not have happened under President Trump and its a sad situation and how do we Restore American Leadership and take care of our allies, Eastern Europe like polland and taiwan. Jason going back to that equipment, i dont understand billions of dollars of american hardware, everything from guns and ammunition to tanks and aircraft, why that wasnt scuttled or destroyed and still isnt destroyed. I dont understand and given the interest of china, russia in iran in afghanistan, if you could talk to us a little bit about what their interest are and what they seeked to gain by this total mess of withdrawal of afghanistan . The chinese are using the withdrawal to humiliate us. It was so poorly handled that they already the mouthpiece of the Communist Party Of China has told the taiwanese, this is your picture and this is taipei and we need to do things immediately like speeding arms sells and we need to speed up sales and poland in the front lines against the russians. We ought to get them tanks while they are being built by great workers in ohio and when the new tanks are delivered, we can bring the old ones back out of our depos, we need to get a Coast Guard Cutter in american samoa. We need to reinforce our alliances with the Micronesia And Association states and the pacific. 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Jason we are back with Robert Obrien, the former national security ambassador. Ambassador, we heard general milley that the country may descend into Civil War and the taliban may not be strong enough to hold against Isisk And Alqaeda and given your background with afghanistan, where do you see the country going now . Well, we will have to see, right now the taliban has control and the taliban has never been in a better position because they walked into billions of billions of dollars of u. S. Equipment including advanced Night Vision goggles, Scan Eagle drones, close air support Combat Aircraft, rotary and Fix Wing and the taliban right now is in a very good position but ultimately if afghanistan is a tribal country, theres others that may not want to live in taliban rule, you may see resistance in the Panjshir Valley and other parts of afghanistan. We will have to see how that plays out but the reason that jake is talking about financial aid to the taliban is because we left a lot of americans behind and right now theres not many cards left to play to get the americans home and get our Al Gain allies home other than the economic card and we can end up putting a lot of money in the Talibans Pocket to get our remaining americans out. Thats why this crisis is far from over. We have a lot of americans that still need to come home and friends of ours that helped us and need to come to the quite and this is far from over and not many tools for americans to play and i think thats why you are saying jake and others talk about the economic aid trying to put a carrot out for the taliban to allow our american citizens to get back home and thats, of course, what we all want. Jason the Bidenharris Administration trying to say that they have leverage. I quite frankly dont see that. The ultimate question, last question for you, ambassador, is the united states safer than it was before . Well, we are not safer and the primary reason for that was lost credibility Around The World with allies and adversaries. We need to Restore American Leadership. Theres a lot of things that we can do. Number 1,let Get Americans home and we have the markup and the defense budget, we need to make sure Theres Plenty of money to rebuild our Navy And Show adversaries that we are still in the game and take some of the steps i talked about earlier bolsters romania, poland and our eastern European Allies and bolster allies in the pacific and before signing off, jason, you are a Star Player for the Byu Cowing arson and we got great new quarterback and im sure youre pleased with Opening Night for College Football at the Byu Cowingers, congratulations to your team. Jason im just glad to see the full stadiums and people out enjoying and rooting for their team. My team won last night so it was a good night. Former national Security Adviser Robert obrien, thank you for your service and thank you for joining us on Sunday Morning futures. Great to be with you. Jason afghanistan is one of the many crisis President Bidens administration in september and border still major issue and new tragic images like this of a young migrant in the desert are sparking calls for the White House to do something, do more, do something. To know that this was preventible really upsets us and it hurts knowing that weve had to see this over and over again. Jason former Acting Department of Homeland Secretary Chad wolol [ ] if you have diabetes, its important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. Try boost glucose control. Its clinically shown to help manage Blood Sugar levels and contains high Quality Protein to help manage Hunger And Support muscle health. Try boost today. 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I talked to Border Patrol agents, i talked to highlevel Property Agents and say there was no discussion with the Biden Administration of actually stopping illegal immigration, just dealing with the logistics and thats exactly what they are being told to do and thats what they are doing and they Cant Help to do that because theres to many people, you mentioned the numbers, they are the highest we have ever had and unfortunately the cartels are getting better at transporting people and transporting drugs across our border. Jason joining us now former Acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary during the Trump Administration chad wolf. Thank you so much for joining us. You watched the Little Girl to hear she and her mother both perished there in the arizona desert, i mean, it is Human Trafficking, it is real. Its not just numbers of people coming across, real Human Beings that are losing their lives because they have been incentivized to come to the united states. Well, its absolutely correct and thats a heartbreaking story but we see a lot of those throughout the course of the year throughout this crisis. But we have to remember that the Biden Administration is encouraging individuals, we are seeing historic numbers, month after month after month and in the process we see more migrants deaths and Border Patrol are seeing every day and we are seeing more in Custody Deaths because of sheer number of people crossing the border every month. Border policy that the Biden Administration has par taken and undergone over the last several months is a very inhumane policy thats having some devastating consequences. Jason there were some 65,000 people that came across as unaccompanied minors. Understanding that roughly a third of those are unaccounted for. The Biden Administration has totally lost track with them. They thought they could get a Telephone Number and call and check on them but they cant find them now. How is that not Human Trafficking and we allow so many unaccompanied minors just loose within the united states of america . Well, we need to keep in mind that this is the same administration that rolled back trumpera Vetting Requirements for those same sponsors. We had put in place a very robust sponsoring procedures to make sure that we knew who those individuals were and that we were placing these minors with. This administration rolled back those and now they are releasing them, they dont know where they are at which makes it even more difficult for these minors to show up to the Immigration Proceedings which are required to do by law but if you cant even locate them, you cant locate them or their sponsor, then you neglect theyre not showing up for court and so its exactly right, jason. Its Human Trafficking really at its worse. Jason well, the other thing thats being trafficked are a lot of drugs. I mean, fentanyl is reportedly more dangerous, more deadly than heroin and yet the Biden Administration is actually looking to following through on this idea that they these crimes, they would lessen the penalties for them, how is this going to make our country more safe and secure . Well, its not. At the end of the day, i think folks need to keep in mind that the historic number of folks that we are seeing Cross The Border enrich the cartels every day for every individual crossing the border its 5 to 10,000 that they pay cartel members. The cartels are putting that money back into elicit business and they continue to traffic illegal narcotics and the 200 that you mentioned at the top of the segment, is only the amount that we are apprehending and we know the vast majority is getting through and why do we know that because Border Patrol agents are no longer on the line doing their national security mission, they are back in facilities trying to care for all of the migrants that are coming aCross The Border, so the 200 increase is a good start but only a small percentage of whats coming into the border fueled by the cartels and fueled by the Biden Administrations policies. Jason yeah, Drug Cartels know what theyre doing unfortunately but this administration doesnt, but hey, Kamala Harris, shes on top of it, there should be nothing to worry about it. Former acting secretary, thank you for being with us. The fight of whether kids should keep masks still playing out in courtroom and public opinion. 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The Education Department investigating 5 states, tennessee and my Home State Utah to see if their bans on school masks mandates violates students civil rights. Fox news medical Contributor Dr. Shes also the author of a new book called panic attack. Doctor, thank you so much for joining us today on Sunday Morning futures. This battle over masks, what do we need to know because youre taking a totally different direction than the united states, why . Doctor so thats right, jason. Only in the united states are children wearing masks in school controversial because our establishments have made it so Black And White and children wearing masks in school is vital to their health but if it was really so Black And White and clear cut and backed by science, would many countries in europe as you mentioned uk, would they be doing it as well and how come the World Health Organization hasnt backed it and thats because its not Black And White. As far as i know, theres no clearcut evidence to support especially young children wearing masks in school. The cdcs own data has shown no significantly reduction of children wearing masks. Theyve always been by multiple Mitigation Efforts and on top of that, one to have largest studies on bangladesh and what they found was the reduction in cases was almost exclusively by surgical and the benefit was in older adults, the people masking was protecting the vulnerable and the older adults but again the surgical masks, when you translate that to the united states and look at the children, about 99 of kids are wearing the clothe masks which is no proven benefit to children and the surrounding communities in wearing those Cloth Masks but what i can tell you there are some real longterm risks for that. The Cloth Masks may be wearing may have zero benefit to the children but what does have benefit to the children that is backed by science are opening up windows and vaccinating the adults around them, the teachers, their families. In the beginning we were able to take some of the maybe Risk Reduction measures because we had a lack of data but things have changed, jason, and we have data and we know longterm wearing of young children in the Cloth Masks can have consequences and no one has proven the benefit yet so i have to say the science or really lack thereof on mask wearing in children is on desantis side. Jason the frustrating thing to me somebody who is in the a scientist is that they take this Policy Position and then somehow try to scramble to find the science. They dont put out the science first, let it percolate and let the scientific community come together to form a Condition Census and thats why you have like governor your Governor Murphy in New Jersey making the statements but doesnt have anything to back it up. I want to go. I have time for another quick question and that is about this idea that the vaccine booster. There are some that argue that between shots 1 and 2 it should have been a longer period of time, but what about this booster shot, is it really necessary, is the science behind that . Doctor if you compare what happened in Israel Versus The Uk, israel had a shorter interval between first and second dose. The uk had a longer one and those in The Uk are having breakthrough infections, there should have been a longer interval, maybe 6 weeks, 8 weeks, who knows, we dont have a study to show it. When it comes to booster, the efficacy of the vaccines are declining but the good news they are preventing severe illness and hospitalizations and death and still rare for those fully vaccinated, boosters for immunocompromised and those having difficulty building immune responses because of diseases. When it comes to general population, jason, the data is not there to suggest that the general population requires a third dose, maybe in the next 4 to 6 months if we start seeing more hospitalizations and deaths in fully vaccinated, we can start having conversation about boosters at that point but right now the evidence is not there which is why theres so much controversy because the white House And Cdc has Put Forth that boosters may be available by end of september and fda says we havent reviewed the data to see if its necessary. They need to stop as you mentioned and pause, look at the data and then communicate to the american people, this is why we are having such a distrust in these elite establishments. Jason yeah, dr. Nicole saphier, thank you. I know that youre a mornings with maria of some wonderful kids and you also back up the science behind what you say, thanks for joining us. That does it all for Sunday Morning futures. Im Jason Chaffetz in for maria bartiromo, have a great labor weekend, everybody. Remember, you can catch Mornings Liberty mutual customizes Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. How much money can liberty mutual save you . One two three four five 72,807 72,808. Dollars. Yep. Everything hurts. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. [peaceful music plays] [soft cymbal crash] do you take aspirin . Plain aspirin could be hurting your stomach. 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